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Beisbol Team Season Win Totals (2 Viewers)

I'll change these as necessary, but below are ballpark numbers on what "vegas" would put each team's win total at. Give us your input. Who do you think is being under or overrated here? :blackdot:

Arizona 79 78.5 O-125 79 79 U-125

Atlanta 82 82.5 O-125 83

Baltimore 74 O-125 74.5

Boston 91 91.5 U-125

Chicago Cubs 84

Chicago WS 88 U-125 87.5

Cincinnati 77 75.5 O-125 76

Cleveland 86 86.5

Colorado 76 U-125

Detroit 89

Florida 78 77 O-125 77

Houston 79

Kansas City 67 U-125

LA Angels 90 89 O-125

LA Dodgers 88

Milwaukee 81

Minnesota 84 84.5 U-125

NY Mets 90 89 O-125

NY Yankees 97 97.5 U-125 96.5

Oakland 85 U-125

Philadelphia 88 88.5

Pittsburgh 72 73 O-125 73.5

San Diego 84 U-125

San Francisco 81 80.5 U-125 80

Seattle 79 78 O-125 78.5

St. Louis 85 84.5 U-120

Tampa Bay 67

Texas 81 80.5 O-125 81

Toronto 87 87.5 O-125

Washington 67 67.5 U-125

 
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i don't think i'd ever actually risk any money on these types of bets, but ... if i was looking to pick one, i'd probably take the over on the brewers. i've heard some talk about how strong their pitching is and how they're a legit contender for the division title. that translates to a winning record to me.

as a homer, i can say i would bet the over on the pirates just because they have to improve at some point.

living in philly, i'd say 88 is a pretty good number. i'd probably stay away from that one.

 
I think the Padres are going to win the NL, but I wouldn't touch them at 84 as the o/u. Look elsewhere SLBD, there's nothing here.

 
Thanks for the input. :blackdot:

I'll add that teams like the Yankess are oft overvalued so I like going the other way, if possible. World Series and playoff teams are good to go against. How often do you see everything go right the next year as well? The Chisox didn't hit their total last year.

Conversely, if you can find some light in a bad team, you are getting excellent numbers, obviously.

Except for the Dodgers (who are at a premium), I haven't followed the off-season...

 
Take the Cubs and under. Orioles and under as well.
I am a Cub fan but would pick the under as well. New manager + bad pitching = long year.
I'd have to disagree. 84 is a low number and the Cubs have the bats this year. 83 wins WON this division last year. No team has improved more than the Cubs, although their pitching is still not very good, but this still remains a question mark. If anything, over would be the play for me.
 
I like Toronto UNDER 87 wins. Have you seen the driftwood they are throwing out there in the back half of their rotation? Starters 3-5 candidates put up a combined era north of 5.00 last year. They are going to struggle to keep runs off the board.

 
Chicago WS 88 - underCincinnati 77 - underFlorida 78 overHouston 79 overKansas City 67 underPittsburgh 72 underSeattle 79 under
These are what I like.Florida is an up and coming team. Could use a bit more pitching, especially in the bullpen, but I see them as at least a 500 team.Houston is decent, plus they get a ton of games against underwhelming competition. If the bullpen gets their act together, this number should be made easy.Cincy & Pittsburgh are awful, and I fully expect to see them nowhere near .500Seattle is not a .500 team right now, not with that starting staff and the tail end of the batting order.KC is in the most competitive division, and they are the about on par with the Nationals for the worst team in the majors. Gil Meche is their staff ace, enough said.
 
Yanks won't win 97 this year.
They really won't, not with their pitching staff. Another tough division, no way they win 97.
:lmao: I really dont think their division is that tough. Toronto's pitching staff is dreadful (even worse than the Yankees). And Balt & TB are terrible like usual. I think Boston is the team to beat now that they moved Paps to closer so that would mean Yankees would have to win 97 as the WC. Its been done before so I dont think you can say no way. Id say its 50/50 and its a bet Id stay away from.
 
I have the over on the D-Backs...had them projected at about 86 wins...a lot will depend on Johnson's health and how far along the young hitters come.

 
Yanks won't win 97 this year.
They really won't, not with their pitching staff. Another tough division, no way they win 97.
:no: I really dont think their division is that tough. Toronto's pitching staff is dreadful (even worse than the Yankees). And Balt & TB are terrible like usual. I think Boston is the team to beat now that they moved Paps to closer so that would mean Yankees would have to win 97 as the WC. Its been done before so I dont think you can say no way. Id say its 50/50 and its a bet Id stay away from.
Come again? AL's second best starter....AJ Burnett when healthy can be very good....gustavio Chacin when not :shrug: and :yes: has shown to be a good pitcher. There 4th and 5th starters may lack....but they also have one of the better bullpen's in the division with League setting up Ryan.

 
Yanks won't win 97 this year.
They really won't, not with their pitching staff. Another tough division, no way they win 97.
:shrug: I really dont think their division is that tough. Toronto's pitching staff is dreadful (even worse than the Yankees). And Balt & TB are terrible like usual. I think Boston is the team to beat now that they moved Paps to closer so that would mean Yankees would have to win 97 as the WC. Its been done before so I dont think you can say no way. Id say its 50/50 and its a bet Id stay away from.
Come again? AL's second best starter....AJ Burnett when healthy can be very good....gustavio Chacin when not :wub: and :eek: has shown to be a good pitcher. There 4th and 5th starters may lack....but they also have one of the better bullpen's in the division with League setting up Ryan.
When is AJ Burnett ever healthy. And I think we dominated Chacin last year or the year before (forgot which year). They have one of the best closer's but I wouldnt rank their bullpen very high.
 
Yanks won't win 97 this year.
They really won't, not with their pitching staff. Another tough division, no way they win 97.
:wub: I really dont think their division is that tough. Toronto's pitching staff is dreadful (even worse than the Yankees). And Balt & TB are terrible like usual. I think Boston is the team to beat now that they moved Paps to closer so that would mean Yankees would have to win 97 as the WC. Its been done before so I dont think you can say no way. Id say its 50/50 and its a bet Id stay away from.
There are several good hitting teams in this division though, even Tampa is a good hitting team. You are right the pitching isn't stout but if the offenses carry this division, even the best teams are going to take a lot of losses in the division.I don't think you can be that confident in the staff that the Yankees have assembled. Yeah, they can mash the ball but so can't a lot of these teams.Under 97 is my play.
 
As a Giants fan, I'd bet them under 81. The starting pitching should be pretty good, but the lineup is very questionable and the bullpen is worse. I think they're about a 500 team this year but think its much more likely that they finish several games below than several games above.

 
Yanks won't win 97 this year.
They really won't, not with their pitching staff. Another tough division, no way they win 97.
:coffee: I really dont think their division is that tough. Toronto's pitching staff is dreadful (even worse than the Yankees). And Balt & TB are terrible like usual. I think Boston is the team to beat now that they moved Paps to closer so that would mean Yankees would have to win 97 as the WC. Its been done before so I dont think you can say no way. Id say its 50/50 and its a bet Id stay away from.
There are several good hitting teams in this division though, even Tampa is a good hitting team. You are right the pitching isn't stout but if the offenses carry this division, even the best teams are going to take a lot of losses in the division.I don't think you can be that confident in the staff that the Yankees have assembled. Yeah, they can mash the ball but so can't a lot of these teams.Under 97 is my play.
I am NOT confidant in their staff. Id say their starting staff is average and their bullpen is above average. But IMO it is better than last years and they got 97 wins last year. And I do agree that all the teams in the division can hit but if they wanna get into a hitting contest with the Yankees Id favor the Yankees in that event.I think the Yankees make the playoffs again on the back of their powerful lineup and crash and burn yet again in the postseason due to their starting staff. BUT IMO if they can remian competitive while rebuilding their pitching staff with youth Id be very happy and they seem to be headed in that direction.My prediction DET over LAD in the WS.
 
. I think Boston is the team to beat now that they moved Paps to closer so that would mean Yankees would have to win 97 as the WC.
If you are counting on any team from the AL East winning 97 as the wildcard, you are high.
Im not counting on it but Id say its about 50/50. With the incredible depth in the AL Central those teams will be beating up on eachother so Id say 97 wins coming out of the AL East isnt THAT unlikely.
 
i don't think i'd ever actually risk any money on these types of bets, but ... if i was looking to pick one, i'd probably take the over on the brewers. i've heard some talk about how strong their pitching is and how they're a legit contender for the division title. that translates to a winning record to me.as a homer, i can say i would bet the over on the pirates just because they have to improve at some point. living in philly, i'd say 88 is a pretty good number. i'd probably stay away from that one.
The Brewers have a pretty good staff. Their website lists the rotation as follows:1. C Capuano2. B Sheets3. J Suppan4. D Bush5. C VargasThe big question is can they stay healthy. Can Sheets give 30+ starts? They have a hole at 3rd base with only Tony Graffanino and Craig Counsell. Ryan Braun should come up by the All Star break provided his fielding improves...his bat is just too good (Had like 5 homers this spring before they sent him down).Jenkins is supposedly killing the ball...batting like .450 but can he do it a full season? He hasn't yet.Are Hardy, Weeks and Fielder going to continue to grow as players and be the stars they were projected to be?I like the Crew but there's still a ton of questions about them. They've been .500 once since 1992. 81 seems about right unless they get some breaks and can stay healthy.
 
. I think Boston is the team to beat now that they moved Paps to closer so that would mean Yankees would have to win 97 as the WC.
If you are counting on any team from the AL East winning 97 as the wildcard, you are high.
Im not counting on it but Id say its about 50/50. With the incredible depth in the AL Central those teams will be beating up on eachother so Id say 97 wins coming out of the AL East isnt THAT unlikely.
Homer alert.
 
I'll change these as necessary, but below are ballpark numbers on what "vegas" would put each team's win total at. Give us your input. Who do you think is being under or overrated here? :bs:

Arizona 79 - over

Baltimore 74 - over

Chicago WS 88 - under

Detroit 89 - under

LA Dodgers 88 - under

NY Yankees 97 - under

Tampa Bay 67 - over
These are the ones I like. No particular order of confidence.
 
. I think Boston is the team to beat now that they moved Paps to closer so that would mean Yankees would have to win 97 as the WC.
If you are counting on any team from the AL East winning 97 as the wildcard, you are high.
Im not counting on it but Id say its about 50/50. With the incredible depth in the AL Central those teams will be beating up on eachother so Id say 97 wins coming out of the AL East isnt THAT unlikely.
Homer alert.
:bs: Please
 
Atlanta 82 OVER

Two years in a row? I think not. Pitching looks solid, Hudson's said to be in great shape. James is a nice addition, and bullpen is excellent. Much-improved, and Andruw Jones in a walk year.

Boston 91 OVER

Best staff in baseball, should finish within 3-5 games of NY up or down. They'll beat up on the weak teams of the AL even with a suspect pen, because those teams pens are even weaker.

Houston 79 OVER

Lost Pettitte and Clemens (probably), but added Carlos Lee. Lidge can't be AS bad right?

LA Angels 90 UNDER

Don't really like anything they did this off-season, and 40% of their starting staff opens on the DL. Granted, Weaver should be back soon but now they've got the Figgins injury to deal with and several players are already very iffy for what kind of production you'll get from them (Matthews, Garret Anderson, Napoli).

LA Dodgers 88 OVER

They should cruise to this division title.

NY Mets 90 OVER

Pitching is certainly a question mark, but continued improvements from Wright/Reyes can't be discounted. Bullpen still very solid, offense still excellent. If Pelfrey and Maine are as advertised, they should approach 95.

Seattle 79 UNDER

What have they done to warrant any improvements? They got rid of Soriano for a bad starting pitcher, they added another bad one in Miguel Batista. Ichiro's contract may be an issue all season. Ibanez won't put up career numbers again at age 33. Jose Guillen's attitude is sure to lift the spirits too. Just a lot to dislike here.

Toronto 87 UNDER

They peaked last year and were able to take advantage of a beaten-down Sox team. As some have mentioned above, the back end of this staff looks like a mess. And it's not like Halladay and Burnett have proven to be the most durable of pitchers over their careers, either.

Washington 67 UNDER

John Patterson, Shawn Hill, Jason Simontacchi, Matt Chico, Nook Logan, Cristian Guzman, Brian Schneider, AND a first-time manager??? This year's historically bad team will easily top 100 losses.

 
I'll change these as necessary, but below are ballpark numbers on what "vegas" would put each team's win total at. Give us your input. Who do you think is being under or overrated here? :thumbup:

Arizona 79 - over

Boston 91 - over

Detroit 89 - over

Florida 78 - under

Houston 79 - under

Milwaukee 81 - over

NY Mets 90 -over

San Francisco 81 -under LOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
These are the ones I like alot. The others Id stay away from.
 
St Louis Cardinal fan here.

Take the under.

They won the division last year with 83 wins and made no significant improvement to the team other than adding Adam Kennedy at 2B and Kip Wells to the rotation. Admittedly, we got rid of Marquis - but we also lost Suppan to fee agency.

Carpenter is an anchor, but after that the only other known starters are Wells and Reyes (neither of which are bad pitchers but one is an injury risk and the other is unproven). the rotation is rounded out by "maybe" Wainwright and Looper (a converted reliever).

Add that to the fact that Encarnacion is banged up and Edmonds may play opening day but is hobbled. I just have a feeling that it is looking like a .500 year. With that said, I like the over on the Astros and the Brewers with an under on the Cubs.

 
Nice work so far.

Okay, I've updated the adjusted lines. I also added the line to each total, showing what side is favored and such. Put simply, if there is an "O" after the team, people are favoring the over. So you know what the "U" means as well...

 
St Louis Cardinal fan here.

Take the under.

They won the division last year with 83 wins and made no significant improvement to the team other than adding Adam Kennedy at 2B and Kip Wells to the rotation. Admittedly, we got rid of Marquis - but we also lost Suppan to fee agency.

Carpenter is an anchor, but after that the only other known starters are Wells and Reyes (neither of which are bad pitchers but one is an injury risk and the other is unproven). the rotation is rounded out by "maybe" Wainwright and Looper (a converted reliever).

Add that to the fact that Encarnacion is banged up and Edmonds may play opening day but is hobbled. I just have a feeling that it is looking like a .500 year. With that said, I like the over on the Astros and the Brewers with an under on the Cubs.
Avoid the Cardinals because you just cannot tell. They are way too unpredictable to bet on. Pujols and Carpenter are possibly the best at their positions in the NL. All they need is a solid supporting cast and LaRussa will get them to have a great season. If they don't get production from Eckstein & Rolen they can really struggle. Too many variables to lay money on one way or the other.
 
Washington 67 UNDERJohn Patterson, Shawn Hill, Jason Simontacchi, Matt Chico, Nook Logan, Cristian Guzman, Brian Schneider, AND a first-time manager??? This year's historically bad team will easily top 100 losses.
This is the safest bet on the board. The Nationals will start poorly and fade in the stretch. 55 wins tops and how they do that will take a miracle and a bunch of 11-7 kinds of wins. Zimmerman and Kearns are decent hitters and they'll have decent infield defense, but the pitching will be AAA level at best, and if Patterson got hurt, Katie bar the door.
 
Cincinnati over 77. Stop laughing. I know it's only spring training, but they've got the best record in beisbol, and their division is mediocre.

 
Cincinnati over 77. Stop laughing. I know it's only spring training, but they've got the best record in beisbol, and their division is mediocre.
Actually it's 75.5, pretty big difference (your way)...although since the over is favored, you'd have to put up $125 to win a $100, for instance.I'm not sure I'd put much weight in the preseason.
 
I like Tampa over and Washington under. I think Tampa's farm system finally trickles in enough talent to beat such a low number. I hate going under the low total with Washington but they are pretty low on talent.

 

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