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VIDEO: Ben Shapiro (DEBATES) Piers Morgan on Gun Control 01-09-13 Oct 10, 2017
After the terror at Sandy Hook, Piers Morgan made the unfortunate (for him) decision to host Ben Shapiro on his CNN show to argue gun control in the United States....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=258VfiGUh1c
VIDEO (8 Years Later): Ben Shapiro and Piers Morgan Revisit Their Viral Gun Control Debate Apr 10, 2021
In this clip, Piers Morgan and I revisit our viral debate over the issue of gun control. I greatly appreciate Piers' willingness to accept my invitation to join the Sunday Special—especially given our well-documented policy disagreements. Piers was "cancelled" by the woke mob just a few weeks ago for absolutely no reason; it's extremely important that conservatives stand up against cancel culture in all of its manifestations. At this point, anyone to the right of AOC is being castigated out of society as deplorable and irredeemable, and things are only going to get worse from here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAaagsvG0YY
FULL LONG FORM INTERVIEW:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlDct_2wJXI&t=0s
Headline: Breitbart Editor (Ben Shapiro) calls Piers Morgan a bully standing on the graves of the children killed at Sandy Hook
On Thursday Morgan had Breitbart News Editor-at-large Ben Shapiro on his show 'Piers Morgan Tonight' to talk about gun control as part of a series of episodes Morgan is doing about 'Guns in America.'...You may recall that in the first episode of the series Morgan called the Executive Director of Gun Owners an “unbelievably stupid man.” He then brought on Fox News contributor and gun advocate John Lott only to call him a liar....
Last night, when Morgan asked Shapiro why Shapiro thinks he's “off the rails on this issue,” Shapiro quickly fired back with, “You have kind of been a bully on this issue....You tend to demonize people who differ from you politically by standing on the graves of the children of Sandy Hook, saying they don’t seem to care enough about the dead kids. If they cared more about the dead kids, they would agree with you on policy..."
“How dare you... How dare you accuse me of standing on the graves of children who died there...How dare you.....” Morgan responded.
(Shapiro) continued to tear into the host: “I think we can have a rational, political conversation about balancing rights and risks and rewards of all of these different policies, but I don’t think that what we need to do is demonize people on the other side as being unfeeling about what happened at Sandy Hook....Well, I mean, you can keep saying that, but you’ve done it repeatedly. What you do, and I’ve seen you do it on your program, is you keep saying to folks if they disagree with you politically, then somehow this is a violation of what happened in Sandy Hook....I would really like to hear your policy prescriptions for what we should do about guns because you say you respect the Second Amendment....”
(Shapiro) present(ed) a pocket version of the Constitution. “I brought this here for you so you can read it...I would really like for you to explain to me what you would do about guns that would have prevented what happened in Sandy Hook....If you want to do what you did in the U.K., which is ban virtually all guns, that is at least a fair argument and we can have a discussion about whether that’s something that we ought to do or not.....Your passion on the issue doesn’t really justify the rationale for why you want to ban assault weapons....”
by Laura Byrne/Andrew Kirell January 11, 2013 11:56 AM
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/red-alert-politics/breitbart-editor-calls-piers-morgan-a-bully-standing-on-the-graves-of-the-children-killed-at-sandy-hook
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/breitbart-editor-battles-piers-morgan-accuses-cnn-host-of-standing-on-the-graves-of-children-of-sandy-hook/
Direct Headline: Lorraine Kelly Argues Piers Morgan Has Not Been 'Cancelled' As Pair Clash In Cancel Culture Debate
"You’re not cancelled though! That’s the thing."...Lorraine Kelly tried to prove to Piers Morgan that he hadn’t been “cancelled” as he made an appearance on her chat show on Thursday....The former Good Morning Britain presenter returned to ITV for the first time since his infamous exit from the channel’s breakfast show last year to promote his new talkTV series Piers Morgan Uncensored.
Back in March 2021, Piers departed GMB after calling into question Meghan Markle’s claims that she’d experienced suicidal thoughts during her time as a senior royal....He later revealed ITV bosses had asked him to apologise for his comments or leave GMB, with Piers opting to stand by his words and exit the show....Piers has since landed a show on new station talkTV, which he says will aim to “cancel the cancel culture” that saw him forced to leave his previous job....
“But you’re not cancelled though! That’s the thing,” she insisted. People say that you’re cancelled, but you’ve got this massive show coming up.”
....Piers responded: “Lorraine, I do and I’m thrilled and excited about it, but I was cancelled from Good Morning Britain, because I did not want to leave and I was told, ‘You’ve got to apologise or leave’ – that is what cancel culture is....Sharon Osbourne was cancelled from her show simply for saying I had the right to an opinion, and I just think society has got to get a grip of this....I respect your opinion, but we should be allowed to have different opinions and this woke mob have decided that only your opinions can be tolerated, and if you deviate one iota from it, then you will have to be destroyed. They’re not liberal, they’re a new form of fascist and I’m not going to let them get away with it...."
By Ash Percival 21/04/2022 12:00pm BST
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/lorraine-kelly-piers-morgan-itv-interview_uk_6261279de4b09c32edf8e8b7
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I consider the 2013 gun control debate between Conservative pundit Ben Shapiro and international media personality Piers Morgan to be one of the most interesting because they actually reunited in 2021 to revisit the topic under far more different circumstances.
Piers Morgan generally believes that there should be universal background checks, a limit of 10 rounds for detachable rifle magazines and doesn't believe there is any legal utility in "assault rifles" or rifles designated or perceived or labeled as such in our society, as he claims they only have the purpose of killing large numbers of people. When Morgan did his 2013 CNN interview with Shapiro, he was in a far stronger leverage position career wise.
8 years later in 2021, Morgan had been "cancelled" and told to recant a viewpoint on the Royal Family or leave his show in Britain, and while few to none would give him an opportunity to talk about that situation and his other viewpoints, Ben Shapiro, in a stronger leverage position in 2021 with The Daily Wire, gave him a platform to speak and denounced the "cancelling" of Morgan. This was far more generous given to Piers Morgan than was afforded anyone considered on the opposite of his viewpoint on gun control in 2013.
Shapiro's views on gun control include:
1) More armed well trained security in schools. That children should be guarded like banks are guarded, because they are our societies most precious resource.
2) An end to denouncing those who are Pro2A and anti extreme gun regulation as morally/ethically deficient or as some kind of social/cultural threat for the "crime" of disagreement
3) A discussion laid out on practical public policy, not merely emotional rhetoric designed to drum up ratings and for politicians to trigger more fundraising/try to incite their core voter base for support/force their way into the national daily media cycle.
4) Universal background checks but not a nation wide gun registry, i.e. background checks that don't impose the "tyranny" that the Founders warned of about government overreach
5) An honest discussion if the Democratic Party in America just plain wants a full on widespread permanent ban on ALL firearms period, under which Shapiro says that's at least a very honest discussion on a legitimate "end game" goal, whether he agrees with it or not.
6) Dealing with the root issue of crime within communities as the precursor to gun violence, not simply targeting the often used "tools" of said crime.
7) A practical non emotional admission by the Democratic Party and those who want 2A abolished that the main purpose of our Founders was to allow citizens to have the means ( firearms) to oppose any potential governmental tyranny inflicted upon them. Or as Shapiro says, "The fact that my grandparents and great grandparents in Europe didn't fear (government imposed tyranny), that is why they're now ashes in Europe...."
Do you agree or disagree ( and why) with Piers Morgan's and Ben Shapiro's viewpoints and suggestions?
Do you agree or disagree with universal background checks for firearms ownership? Then, to what limit on other rights possibly infringed upon? Do you agree or disagree with a nation wide gun registry as Shapiro discusses?
Do you agree or disagree with a universal ban on any detachable box magazine that holds greater than 10 rounds of ammunition?
Do you agree or disagree with a universal ban on all "assault rifles/assault weapons", particularly the AR-15 platform?
Do you agree or disagree that all schools should have well trained armed security as a deterrent from more future mass shootings/active shooter scenarios? Or to what limit would you agree or disagree?
Do you agree or disagree with the stance on a full on nation wide ban on all firearms period? If so, how would you propose to actually implement that in terms of functional public administration?
I'll leave this here for others to discuss
After the terror at Sandy Hook, Piers Morgan made the unfortunate (for him) decision to host Ben Shapiro on his CNN show to argue gun control in the United States....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=258VfiGUh1c
VIDEO (8 Years Later): Ben Shapiro and Piers Morgan Revisit Their Viral Gun Control Debate Apr 10, 2021
In this clip, Piers Morgan and I revisit our viral debate over the issue of gun control. I greatly appreciate Piers' willingness to accept my invitation to join the Sunday Special—especially given our well-documented policy disagreements. Piers was "cancelled" by the woke mob just a few weeks ago for absolutely no reason; it's extremely important that conservatives stand up against cancel culture in all of its manifestations. At this point, anyone to the right of AOC is being castigated out of society as deplorable and irredeemable, and things are only going to get worse from here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAaagsvG0YY
FULL LONG FORM INTERVIEW:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlDct_2wJXI&t=0s
Headline: Breitbart Editor (Ben Shapiro) calls Piers Morgan a bully standing on the graves of the children killed at Sandy Hook
On Thursday Morgan had Breitbart News Editor-at-large Ben Shapiro on his show 'Piers Morgan Tonight' to talk about gun control as part of a series of episodes Morgan is doing about 'Guns in America.'...You may recall that in the first episode of the series Morgan called the Executive Director of Gun Owners an “unbelievably stupid man.” He then brought on Fox News contributor and gun advocate John Lott only to call him a liar....
Last night, when Morgan asked Shapiro why Shapiro thinks he's “off the rails on this issue,” Shapiro quickly fired back with, “You have kind of been a bully on this issue....You tend to demonize people who differ from you politically by standing on the graves of the children of Sandy Hook, saying they don’t seem to care enough about the dead kids. If they cared more about the dead kids, they would agree with you on policy..."
“How dare you... How dare you accuse me of standing on the graves of children who died there...How dare you.....” Morgan responded.
(Shapiro) continued to tear into the host: “I think we can have a rational, political conversation about balancing rights and risks and rewards of all of these different policies, but I don’t think that what we need to do is demonize people on the other side as being unfeeling about what happened at Sandy Hook....Well, I mean, you can keep saying that, but you’ve done it repeatedly. What you do, and I’ve seen you do it on your program, is you keep saying to folks if they disagree with you politically, then somehow this is a violation of what happened in Sandy Hook....I would really like to hear your policy prescriptions for what we should do about guns because you say you respect the Second Amendment....”
(Shapiro) present(ed) a pocket version of the Constitution. “I brought this here for you so you can read it...I would really like for you to explain to me what you would do about guns that would have prevented what happened in Sandy Hook....If you want to do what you did in the U.K., which is ban virtually all guns, that is at least a fair argument and we can have a discussion about whether that’s something that we ought to do or not.....Your passion on the issue doesn’t really justify the rationale for why you want to ban assault weapons....”
by Laura Byrne/Andrew Kirell January 11, 2013 11:56 AM
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/red-alert-politics/breitbart-editor-calls-piers-morgan-a-bully-standing-on-the-graves-of-the-children-killed-at-sandy-hook
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/breitbart-editor-battles-piers-morgan-accuses-cnn-host-of-standing-on-the-graves-of-children-of-sandy-hook/
Direct Headline: Lorraine Kelly Argues Piers Morgan Has Not Been 'Cancelled' As Pair Clash In Cancel Culture Debate
"You’re not cancelled though! That’s the thing."...Lorraine Kelly tried to prove to Piers Morgan that he hadn’t been “cancelled” as he made an appearance on her chat show on Thursday....The former Good Morning Britain presenter returned to ITV for the first time since his infamous exit from the channel’s breakfast show last year to promote his new talkTV series Piers Morgan Uncensored.
Back in March 2021, Piers departed GMB after calling into question Meghan Markle’s claims that she’d experienced suicidal thoughts during her time as a senior royal....He later revealed ITV bosses had asked him to apologise for his comments or leave GMB, with Piers opting to stand by his words and exit the show....Piers has since landed a show on new station talkTV, which he says will aim to “cancel the cancel culture” that saw him forced to leave his previous job....
“But you’re not cancelled though! That’s the thing,” she insisted. People say that you’re cancelled, but you’ve got this massive show coming up.”
....Piers responded: “Lorraine, I do and I’m thrilled and excited about it, but I was cancelled from Good Morning Britain, because I did not want to leave and I was told, ‘You’ve got to apologise or leave’ – that is what cancel culture is....Sharon Osbourne was cancelled from her show simply for saying I had the right to an opinion, and I just think society has got to get a grip of this....I respect your opinion, but we should be allowed to have different opinions and this woke mob have decided that only your opinions can be tolerated, and if you deviate one iota from it, then you will have to be destroyed. They’re not liberal, they’re a new form of fascist and I’m not going to let them get away with it...."
By Ash Percival 21/04/2022 12:00pm BST
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/lorraine-kelly-piers-morgan-itv-interview_uk_6261279de4b09c32edf8e8b7
*********
I consider the 2013 gun control debate between Conservative pundit Ben Shapiro and international media personality Piers Morgan to be one of the most interesting because they actually reunited in 2021 to revisit the topic under far more different circumstances.
Piers Morgan generally believes that there should be universal background checks, a limit of 10 rounds for detachable rifle magazines and doesn't believe there is any legal utility in "assault rifles" or rifles designated or perceived or labeled as such in our society, as he claims they only have the purpose of killing large numbers of people. When Morgan did his 2013 CNN interview with Shapiro, he was in a far stronger leverage position career wise.
8 years later in 2021, Morgan had been "cancelled" and told to recant a viewpoint on the Royal Family or leave his show in Britain, and while few to none would give him an opportunity to talk about that situation and his other viewpoints, Ben Shapiro, in a stronger leverage position in 2021 with The Daily Wire, gave him a platform to speak and denounced the "cancelling" of Morgan. This was far more generous given to Piers Morgan than was afforded anyone considered on the opposite of his viewpoint on gun control in 2013.
Shapiro's views on gun control include:
1) More armed well trained security in schools. That children should be guarded like banks are guarded, because they are our societies most precious resource.
2) An end to denouncing those who are Pro2A and anti extreme gun regulation as morally/ethically deficient or as some kind of social/cultural threat for the "crime" of disagreement
3) A discussion laid out on practical public policy, not merely emotional rhetoric designed to drum up ratings and for politicians to trigger more fundraising/try to incite their core voter base for support/force their way into the national daily media cycle.
4) Universal background checks but not a nation wide gun registry, i.e. background checks that don't impose the "tyranny" that the Founders warned of about government overreach
5) An honest discussion if the Democratic Party in America just plain wants a full on widespread permanent ban on ALL firearms period, under which Shapiro says that's at least a very honest discussion on a legitimate "end game" goal, whether he agrees with it or not.
6) Dealing with the root issue of crime within communities as the precursor to gun violence, not simply targeting the often used "tools" of said crime.
7) A practical non emotional admission by the Democratic Party and those who want 2A abolished that the main purpose of our Founders was to allow citizens to have the means ( firearms) to oppose any potential governmental tyranny inflicted upon them. Or as Shapiro says, "The fact that my grandparents and great grandparents in Europe didn't fear (government imposed tyranny), that is why they're now ashes in Europe...."
Do you agree or disagree ( and why) with Piers Morgan's and Ben Shapiro's viewpoints and suggestions?
Do you agree or disagree with universal background checks for firearms ownership? Then, to what limit on other rights possibly infringed upon? Do you agree or disagree with a nation wide gun registry as Shapiro discusses?
Do you agree or disagree with a universal ban on any detachable box magazine that holds greater than 10 rounds of ammunition?
Do you agree or disagree with a universal ban on all "assault rifles/assault weapons", particularly the AR-15 platform?
Do you agree or disagree that all schools should have well trained armed security as a deterrent from more future mass shootings/active shooter scenarios? Or to what limit would you agree or disagree?
Do you agree or disagree with the stance on a full on nation wide ban on all firearms period? If so, how would you propose to actually implement that in terms of functional public administration?
I'll leave this here for others to discuss