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Ben Watson news? (1 Viewer)

The Pats are not saying a peep. But I am being told that we should not expect to see either him or Morris until after the Pats bye week, so that would mean a month from now.

 
dont know about Morris, but Im optimistic that Watson will be back for the Colts game. he walked around after the play he was injured, and walked off to the lockerroom without a limp. although, he was definitely walking slowly, just not limping. may not be as bad as it looked.

I did just read on another board, and this is pure speculation, that Morris may be done for the year. The rumored report was broken clavicle. I have no link, and again its just speculation, but thats a rumor swirling.

 
Getting a legitimate update on a Patriots player (outside of Yudkin) is like pulling teeth. You really have no idea if a player is mamed or perfectly healthy.

 
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Getting a legitimate update on a Patriots player (outside of Yudkin) is like pulling teeth. You really have no idea if a player is mamed or perfectly healthy.
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David has been perfect on Maroney. IMO, you need look no further than a thread he's posting to for Patriots injury news.
 
I'm already following-up on injuries to Maroney, Morris, Watson, and Seymour. If you have other Pats questions, I can ask my guy to see what's up.

 
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I'm already following-up on injuries to Maroney, Morris, Watson, and Seymour. If you have other Pats questions, I can ask my guy to see what's up.
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If Watson doesn't go, who is the primary TE? My understanding was that Kyle Brady was brought in to be essentially a third tackle in the running game. Would David Thomas be more likely to fill Watson's role as a safety valve/red zone target?
 
Q-Bert said:
David Yudkin said:
I'm already following-up on injuries to Maroney, Morris, Watson, and Seymour. If you have other Pats questions, I can ask my guy to see what's up.
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If Watson doesn't go, who is the primary TE? My understanding was that Kyle Brady was brought in to be essentially a third tackle in the running game. Would David Thomas be more likely to fill Watson's role as a safety valve/red zone target?
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Thomas would have been a good fill-in in Watson's role but is on IR. I think the only TE other than Brady is Marcellus Rivers. Don't know a lot about him.
 
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parrot said:
Q-Bert said:
David Yudkin said:
I'm already following-up on injuries to Maroney, Morris, Watson, and Seymour. If you have other Pats questions, I can ask my guy to see what's up.
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If Watson doesn't go, who is the primary TE? My understanding was that Kyle Brady was brought in to be essentially a third tackle in the running game. Would David Thomas be more likely to fill Watson's role as a safety valve/red zone target?
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Thomas would have been a good fill-in in Watson's role but is on IR. I think the only TE other than Brady is Marcellus Rivers. Don't know a lot about him.
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Didn't know that, thanks for the info.
 
Rivers did well in preseason. I was surprised he's been cut but he's also re-signed and been cut a number of times this season already. Definitely seems like the Pats were trying to find a way to keep him around.

While I don't think any big increase is reasonable a smidge more could go Vrabel's way.

 
FWIW:

CBSSportsline has an update, quoting one of the Boston beat writers, saying that he expects Watson to be out about 2 weeks.

 
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FFFanaticc said:
FWIW:

CBSSportsline has an update, quoting one of the Boston beat writers, saying that he expects Watson to be out about 2 weeks.
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The exact quote was AT LEAST two weeks . . .
Q: With the win over Dallas now in place, I come away with a couple of questions after the game. First, how serious is the Benjamin Watson injury, and if it is bad, could an old friend -- say, Jermaine Wiggins -- be a possible pick up as a receiving tight end? And second, with the Pats already thin at RB (Maroney always seems to be hurt), if the Morris injury is bad, who do we turn to? The fact that Tampa can't find a reliable veteran can't be real good news if the Pats need another back.

Pete Pasco, Hudson, N.Y.

A: Watson injured his left ankle and my sense is that he is going to be out for at least the next two games. I also think Morris, who was reported to have injured his chest (it looked like ribs), is probably going to be out longer than that. As for what the Patriots do to fill the void, if they feel the need to sign a tight end -- and want to make the space on the 53-man roster -- I'd say Brian Jones would be the likely choice as he was in training camp with the club. But ultimately, I think the most likely solutions are already on the roster. Naturally, Kyle Brady and Marcellus Rivers will have to play more, but I think this is where someone like physical receiver Kelley Washington could be utilized -- less as an in-line blocker, and more as a pass-catcher in a tight-end type role. I don't see them making any additions at running back, as Laurence Maroney seems primed to return. With Morris' expected absence, and the idea that Maroney will probably be eased back into the mix, that will mean some more work for Kevin Faulk, Heath Evans, and Kyle Eckel on early downs.
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This is alllllllllllll speculation. Until we see Watson not or do practice, then it's conjecture. I'm guessing it'll be like Maroney where we get the "inactive" each Sunday morning. I'm thoroughly convinced the Pats coulda shut him down publicly with a 2-4 weeks comment... but didn't.. expect the same with Watson, unless he practices at one point during the week.

 
He turned his ankle and with Roy Williams falling on his ankle i would be shocked if Watson could even walk on it Monday. YES he could walk on it right afterwards -- Fella's i have turned my ankle really badly playing BBall and have always been able to walk on it right afterwards ( all be it gingerly ) -- it's a few hours later when you can't put any pressure at all on it.

A few months ago I truned my ankle pretty bad in a pick up game - Tied my shoe tight and finished the game -- Woke up next morning and could even walk -- needed Crutches for 2 days becasue i could put no pressure on it. Sop don't read into " he walked off fine " - means nothing.

BUT -- the things the NFL players have available to them he might be back week 9 - more than likley though Watson is done untill after the bye -- BB doesn't take chances with injuries - when his team is going to coast to a first round playoff bye - the only way he brings him back before the buy is play Indy ! If he isn't there to play Indy he doesn't come back till week 11.

note : It usually takes me about 4-6 weeks to make cuts on my ankle after a bad ankle turn - then again I am 34 years old and in NFL shape - nor do I have the med attention and equipment they do.

 
Pigskins said:
Still more speculation and no confirmed statement from NE
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The Moz said:
A few months ago I truned my ankle pretty bad in a pick up game - Tied my shoe tight and finished the game -- It usually takes me about 4-6 weeks to make cuts on my ankle after a bad ankle turn - then again I am 34 years old and in NFL shape - nor do I have the med attention and equipment they do.
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You tied your shoe... and finished the game... sez it all right there.. Watson came out immediately was tended to...with medical supervision on what to do or not do. and as you put (or I think meant to put) you are not in NFL shape.It takes you 4-6 weeks... you still have to live your life, Watson gets physical therapy every day for 5 days a week, and not do much, other than let it heal... additionally athletes can take pain injections, moreover can play with pain, and overcome it for the whole season.Not trying to be myopic here (I have Watson in each league, ugh), just saying your situation and his are pretty drastically different.
 
David Yudkin said:
FFFanaticc said:
FWIW:

CBSSportsline has an update, quoting one of the Boston beat writers, saying that he expects Watson to be out about 2 weeks.
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The exact quote was AT LEAST two weeks . . .
Q: With the win over Dallas now in place, I come away with a couple of questions after the game. First, how serious is the Benjamin Watson injury, and if it is bad, could an old friend -- say, Jermaine Wiggins -- be a possible pick up as a receiving tight end? And second, with the Pats already thin at RB (Maroney always seems to be hurt), if the Morris injury is bad, who do we turn to? The fact that Tampa can't find a reliable veteran can't be real good news if the Pats need another back.

Pete Pasco, Hudson, N.Y.

A: Watson injured his left ankle and my sense is that he is going to be out for at least the next two games. I also think Morris, who was reported to have injured his chest (it looked like ribs), is probably going to be out longer than that. As for what the Patriots do to fill the void, if they feel the need to sign a tight end -- and want to make the space on the 53-man roster -- I'd say Brian Jones would be the likely choice as he was in training camp with the club. But ultimately, I think the most likely solutions are already on the roster. Naturally, Kyle Brady and Marcellus Rivers will have to play more, but I think this is where someone like physical receiver Kelley Washington could be utilized -- less as an in-line blocker, and more as a pass-catcher in a tight-end type role. I don't see them making any additions at running back, as Laurence Maroney seems primed to return. With Morris' expected absence, and the idea that Maroney will probably be eased back into the mix, that will mean some more work for Kevin Faulk, Heath Evans, and Kyle Eckel on early downs.
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David, any comment on the bolded text? Thanks as always.
 
I checked in with my guy and there's no other news to report right now I'm afraid. To recap, I'm hearing that Watson may or may not be able to go against IND on 11/4 and most likely will be back after the bye week against the Bills.

But again, this is not official but is the opinion of someone inside the locker room on a daily basis. I'll check in again over the next couple of days for any updates.

 
SeniorVBDStudent said:
David Yudkin said:
FFFanaticc said:
FWIW:

CBSSportsline has an update, quoting one of the Boston beat writers, saying that he expects Watson to be out about 2 weeks.
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The exact quote was AT LEAST two weeks . . .
Q: With the win over Dallas now in place, I come away with a couple of questions after the game. First, how serious is the Benjamin Watson injury, and if it is bad, could an old friend -- say, Jermaine Wiggins -- be a possible pick up as a receiving tight end? And second, with the Pats already thin at RB (Maroney always seems to be hurt), if the Morris injury is bad, who do we turn to? The fact that Tampa can't find a reliable veteran can't be real good news if the Pats need another back.

Pete Pasco, Hudson, N.Y.

A: Watson injured his left ankle and my sense is that he is going to be out for at least the next two games. I also think Morris, who was reported to have injured his chest (it looked like ribs), is probably going to be out longer than that. As for what the Patriots do to fill the void, if they feel the need to sign a tight end -- and want to make the space on the 53-man roster -- I'd say Brian Jones would be the likely choice as he was in training camp with the club. But ultimately, I think the most likely solutions are already on the roster. Naturally, Kyle Brady and Marcellus Rivers will have to play more, but I think this is where someone like physical receiver Kelley Washington could be utilized -- less as an in-line blocker, and more as a pass-catcher in a tight-end type role. I don't see them making any additions at running back, as Laurence Maroney seems primed to return. With Morris' expected absence, and the idea that Maroney will probably be eased back into the mix, that will mean some more work for Kevin Faulk, Heath Evans, and Kyle Eckel on early downs.
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David, any comment on the bolded text? Thanks as always.
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I know they had Barlow in. (I also believe they had Barlow in in the preseason as well.) My take is that Barlow would be added as insurance/depth and would not see a significant role if he we signed.As far as Maroney goes, it stands to reason that he'll be back this week or next, and for the Pats' sake I hope they wouldn't need to rely on him heavily to beat Miami (no offense to the Fins fans). We should learn more on Maroney as the week plays out in practice.

I saw an article in the Herald that mentioned that Maroney was not a lock to play this week, and that also seems reasonable given that Maroney has been a last minute scratch the past few weeks.

I think of all the Pats options this week at RB that Faulk would be the biggest fantasy contributor, but I would only start him out of desperation. So RBBC with Faulk getting the bigger share. I might be inclined to think that Faulk would see more work than Maroney, but I'd have to hear more about how Maroney looked before making that call. So bottom line fantasy wise, I'd look at other options if people had them.

 
So assuming Watson is out, does Kyle Brady have value as a short-term replacement? Will he get a chance to play the Watson role in the offense, or will they spread those balls out to the WRs?

 
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So assuming Watson is out, does Kyle Brady have value as a short-term replacement? Will he get a chance to play the Watson role in the offense, or will they spread those balls out to the WRs?
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Brady does not come close to the skill set that Watson has and is a snaggletooth veteran. With Watson out, I would guess that Welker and Faulk will be the underneath targets (and maybe Vrabel at the goal line). So no, I would not think Brady will do all that much. The last time he had a game with more than one catch was in 2005.
 
David Yudkin said:
smcindoe said:
So assuming Watson is out, does Kyle Brady have value as a short-term replacement? Will he get a chance to play the Watson role in the offense, or will they spread those balls out to the WRs?
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Brady does not come close to the skill set that Watson has and is a snaggletooth veteran. With Watson out, I would guess that Welker and Faulk will be the underneath targets (and maybe Vrabel at the goal line). So no, I would not think Brady will do all that much. The last time he had a game with more than one catch was in 2005.
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That's all I need to know.
 
Kyle Brady starting the next couple of weeks is NOT a terrible thing. It would more often than not mean one less route runner for Brady to look at. But it will also mean one MORE blocker in to protect #12. It could be worse.

Theyll have Troy Brown back soon, and Gaffney is still a reliable 4th receiver that can be thrown out there when they want to go 4 wide. I think Watson's absence will alter their game plans a ittle, but I dont hate the idea of having an extra Olineman in for protection. I still expect Watson to be back in 2 weeks for the Indy game. I can see him suiting up for that game, Nov 4, helping out as much as the ankle allows, then rests up thru the bye and maybe taking the next game off against Buffalo. By that scenario, Watson could rest from the 4th thru the 25th.

 
Pats may want to keep an extra blocker in anyway, to help against Jason Taylor. Matt Light always seems to have difficulties facing him.

 
He's officially listed as DTD right now. RTSports has this little blurb though:

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports New England Patriots TE Benjamin Watson (ankle) did not practice Wednesday, Oct. 17.

Fantasy Impact: Watson is expected to miss a few games because of the ankle injury.

Take it fwiw.

 
moleculo said:
so what's the deal here? Watson did not appear on the injury report - he should be good to go, right?
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There is no injury report (with OUT, DOUBTFUL, QUESTIONABLE, or PROBABLE) until Friday. He did not practice and will not be playing this week.
 
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I gotta give Bellichek credit. He knows how to fool around with everyone's mind including Watson owners by keeping silent. Can you imagine if Tom Brady ever were to get injured and he woul be as silent about it as he is about Watson?

The FF world would be going crazy!

 
This is driving me nuts because I've got Watson (like a lot of you) and have to decide what to do. I don't know whether to drop him for another TE, and risk an opponent stashing him ... or drop a WR and stash Watson. Clearly, a healthy Watson is very valuable.

Hopefully we'll get some actual facts? I guess that's a lot to ask for.

10-team redraft league, 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, K, D/ST

QB - Romo, Peyton Manning

RB - McGahee, Portis, Lynch, Kevin Jones

WR - Terrell Owens, Torry Holt, Braylon Edwards, Brandon Marshall, Donte Stallworth, Lee Evans

I think I'm going to have to drop Lee Evans for a 2nd TE. When I do that, it's a guarantee that he has a breakout game - so be ready!

 
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