BenJarvus Green-Ellis 3 TD vs the Giants (1 Viewer)

[X42]

So should I be reading much into this? I know it's the last pre-season game and Bellichk played the backups. But... BGE did start and played against the NYG starters.

Check out the numbers:

rush: 29/125 3 TD

rec: 4/22

I guess the real question is... who's actually going to run the ball in NE?

 

[JamesTheScot]

No one knows except BB.

And he ain't tellin' till right before gametime...each week.

 

[PatytonsGhost]

So should I be reading much into this? I know it's the last pre-season game and Bellichk played the backups. But... BGE did start and played against the NYG starters.Check out the numbers:rush: 29/125 3 TDrec: 4/22I guess the real question is... who's actually going to run the ball in NE?

I saw this as well statwise anyone actually see BGE live doing this>? How did he look.....>?

 

[pizzatyme]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Belichick deal BJGE after this game. My guess is he was showcasing him. I could see a team like the Bears interested if K. Jones injury is as bad as it looked to the untrained eye.

 

[pizzatyme]

Think of what Fred Taylor could have done tonight? Wait, that's not possible as he's the starter and was resting for the opener.

 

[mcintyre1]

4th preseason game... don't get too excited. Teams are resting their starters.

 

[PatytonsGhost]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Belichick deal BJGE after this game. My guess is he was showcasing him. I could see a team like the Bears interested if K. Jones injury is as bad as it looked to the untrained eye.

KJ looked like he twisted his ankle, no biggie, i doubt Angelo is calling Beli on this, though probably an upgrade.

 

[Carver]

4th preseason game... don't get too excited. Teams are resting their starters.

Actually the Giants started their first team in this game. played them for 3 or 4 series. BJGE looked great.

 

[TenTimes]

Think of what Fred Taylor could have done tonight? Wait, that's not possible as he's the starter and was resting for the opener.

 

[footballnerd]

RBRBRBRBRBRBBC

 

[CalBear]

4th preseason game... don't get too excited. Teams are resting their starters.

Actually the Giants started their first team in this game. played them for 3 or 4 series. BJGE looked great.

New England Patriots at 11:551-10-NE23 (11:55) B.Green-Ellis right guard to NE 25 for 2 yards (F.Robbins, J.Tuck).New England Patriots at 08:562-7-NE32 (8:22) (Shotgun) B.Green-Ellis right guard to NE 35 for 3 yards (R.Henderson, B.Cofield).New England Patriots at 05:411-10-NE29 (5:41) (Shotgun) B.Hoyer pass short left to B.Green-Ellis to NE 32 for 3 yards (K.Dockery).2-7-NE32 (5:05) B.Green-Ellis right guard to NE 34 for 2 yards (R.Bernard, M.Kiwanuka).3-5-NE34 (4:25) (Shotgun) B.Hoyer pass short right to B.Green-Ellis to NE 38 for 4 yards (T.Johnson).New England Patriots at 14:001-10-NE11 (14:00) B.Green-Ellis left tackle pushed ob at NE 27 for 16 yards (T.Johnson).1-10-NE27 (13:38) B.Green-Ellis left end to NE 26 for -1 yards (L.Douzable, D.Tollefson).1-10-NE43 (12:11) B.Green-Ellis up the middle to NE 42 for -1 yards (G.Wilkinson).2-10-NYG40 (10:25) B.Green-Ellis right tackle to NYG 40 for no gain (C.Brown, L.Douzable).3-10-NYG40 (9:54) (Shotgun) B.Green-Ellis right end to NYG 34 for 6 yards (C.Sintim, J.Clark).New England Patriots at 05:001-10-NE4 (5:00) R.O'Callaghan reported in as eligible. B.Green-Ellis up the middle to NE 5 for 1 yard (L.Douzable, C.Brown).2-9-NE5 (4:28) B.Green-Ellis left tackle to NE 5 for no gain (D.Tollefson, B.Kehl).3-9-NE5 (3:55) (Shotgun) B.Hoyer pass short right to B.Green-Ellis to NE 12 for 7 yards (T.Thomas, B.Johnson).One good play in the first five series, on 13 touches. He did all his damage against scrubs. You don't get 29 carries in the fourth pre-season game if you're going to play a significant role on the team.

 

[Finless]

This kid's emerging. Take a flier or you be leaning on the glass looking in. One of the NFL's best kept secrets.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Give ANY New England RB 29 rushes and he will get 125 yards. I'd love to have BJGE if he were a full-time starter.....but I'd feel the same about Maroney or Fred Taylor. But I have a feeling that it will be RBBC until one of them gets injured.

 

[Couch Potato]

Any time a guy plays most of the 4th preseason game, you can be almost certain he's at the bottom of the depth chart. It says "this is the guy I care the least about getting injured before the season starts." Ignore his stats tonight. COMPLETELY.

 

[LHUCKS]

This kid's emerging. Take a flier or you be leaning on the glass looking in. One of the NFL's best kept secrets.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

One good play in the first five series, on 13 touches. He did all his damage against scrubs. You don't get 29 carries in the fourth pre-season game if you're going to play a significant role on the team.

Thank you. The din gets pretty loud in here at times.

 

[Shawnky]

One good play in the first five series, on 13 touches. He did all his damage against scrubs. You don't get 29 carries in the fourth pre-season game if you're going to play a significant role on the team.

Thank you. The din gets pretty loud in here at times.

Mike Bell anyone?

 

[sgtrobo]

well, he did have TDs in 4 consecutive games last season.

just trying to play the contrarian.

4th preseason game production = benchwarmer, avoid except for depth

stash on a dynasty roster somewhere. Morris, Faulk and Taylor are all old, and Maroney is obviously a bust.

 

[zamboni]

I'm not taking much from the 4th preseason game, but he also did look good last year when he filled in for an injured Sammy Morris.

I wouldn't be shocked if we see more of him as the season progresses. Morris and Taylor are getting long in the tooth, Faulk has his limited role carved out for him, and Maroney is, well, Maroney.

 

[lod01]

So should I be reading much into this? I know it's the last pre-season game and Bellichk played the backups. But... BGE did start and played against the NYG starters.Check out the numbers:rush: 29/125 3 TDrec: 4/22I guess the real question is... who's actually going to run the ball in NE?

Ask yourself this: Are Benjarvis, Troy Williamson and David Carr are going to set the NFL world on fire, because they all are looking like superstars. There's your answer.However, he actually does have some value, unlike the other 2.

 

[Avery]

So should I be reading much into this? I know it's the last pre-season game and Bellichk played the backups. But... BGE did start and played against the NYG starters.Check out the numbers:rush: 29/125 3 TDrec: 4/22I guess the real question is... who's actually going to run the ball in NE?

Ask yourself this: Are Benjarvis, Troy Williamson and David Carr are going to set the NFL world on fire, because they all are looking like superstars. There's your answer.However, he actually does have some value, unlike the other 2.

I think the one with the most value is the one who is actually a starter; Troy Williamson.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Whoever runs the ball 20+ times in preseason game 4 is likely not making the team...if its for NE the percentages go up even more.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

4th preseason game... don't get too excited. Teams are resting their starters.

Actually the Giants started their first team in this game. played them for 3 or 4 series. BJGE looked great.

Right Carver, and that's because they looked so awful last week. NE did very well and Brady to Moss was there almost all preseason.

 

[HellToupee]

say what you want but BGE's 1 yd TTd run dragging Sintim was impressive.

 

[David Yudkin]

I suspect all 5 Pats RB make the team.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

You don't get 29 carries in the fourth pre-season game if you're going to play a significant role on the team.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

You don't get 29 carries in the fourth pre-season game if you're going to play a significant role on the team.

Just ask Danny Woodhead.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

You don't get 29 carries in the fourth pre-season game if you're going to play a significant role on the team.

Just ask Danny Woodhead.

Exactly. Woodhead may have earned himself a roster spot but no way does he play a significant or really any role on the team, outside of special teams.

 

[BobbyLayne]

BJGE role last night is merely confirmation he is, at best, the RB4 on the Pats.

That said, it was an impressive outing. After he dragged Stimtim into the end zone on the 4th and 1 that put them ahead, BB came running out onto the field, like met him halfway, to pound his back and slap his helmut.

That's crazy...who cares, right? But you gotta love that kind of effort, and while I'm no BB fan, I thought that was cool he got that fired up about it. Sure, the games means nothing, in the standings, to most of the fans or players, but it meant a lot to BJGE - especially if he gets opportunity out of it. It just probably won't be with the Pats.

Best bet - he gets to deal to a team with last minute needs (e.g., Bears).

 

[BobbyLayne]

BTW - no way the Pats will carry all 4 on the active roster, will they? Plus the FBs.

The name escapes me but in 2008 the Jets ran a journeyman 30 times in the 4th preseason game. Think he got all of 88 yards or something lame. Lots of chatter on boards. Cut two days later, which was probably going to happen regardless of how he performed.

It was a showcase - now that i think about it, doubtful they can work a trade on someone everyone in the league knows is a likely cutdown. So BJGE owes BB a solid for giving him another chance to show last year wasn't a total fluke.

 

[Rusty Syringes]

I keep looking at the fact that he played a lot all preseason and remembering how tight-lipped BB is about everything.

I think what will be really telling is whom they cut today. If Sammy Morris gets the boot, that's one little sign about Green-Ellis' possible role.

I'm trying to figure out whether I want to pick up him or Bell.

 

[Boston]

On the positive side...BJGE has looked good in preseason. He looks a step faster than last year and definetly seems confident running the ball. He did a nice job last year, especially when you consider he was an undrafted free agent. The fact he played effectively in the SEC isn't a bad thing to have on your resume as well as he has produced against quality competition albeit in college.

On the negative...he did a lot of damage against non-first teamers this preseason. He also had a brutal fumble that killed a big preseason drive. He also doesn't contribute on special teams which could bite him in the butt as the Pats are also deep at TE and WR and need to make some tough decisions. I would not be surprised to see the Pats make a deal at some point this weekend.

Overall...I can see this kid being cut or being their starter at some point. It's that difficult to get a handle on him. With Taylor, Faulk and Morris ahead of him you have three RBs that are over 30 and a little more suspect to an injury. As for Maroney I believe BJGE's a better runner than him right now as he doesn't dance and runs the way the coaches want him to. Also, it appears the Pats may finally start using Maroney more effectively (i.e. in open space and in the passing game instead of as a power back). While I would not draft BJGE he is a guy to keep an eye on as he has looked pretty good when given an opportunity.

 

[Insomniac]

Whoever runs the ball 20+ times in preseason game 4 is likely not making the team...if its for NE the percentages go up even more.

I'd be surprised if Belichick cut "Law Firm". The Patriots don't have any FBs on the roster so there should be room for him as the #5 RB. Unless (until?) Taylor, Maroney and Morris end up injured he's not worth having on a fantasy team but he has a role on the team.

 

[David Yudkin]

BTW - no way the Pats will carry all 4 on the active roster, will they? Plus the FBs.The name escapes me but in 2008 the Jets ran a journeyman 30 times in the 4th preseason game. Think he got all of 88 yards or something lame. Lots of chatter on boards. Cut two days later, which was probably going to happen regardless of how he performed.It was a showcase - now that i think about it, doubtful they can work a trade on someone everyone in the league knows is a likely cutdown. So BJGE owes BB a solid for giving him another chance to show last year wasn't a total fluke.

Pats have no FBs and are expected to keep 5 RB (Maroney, Taylor, Faulk, Morris, BJGE).

 

[Aardvarks]

Showcase, nothing to see here.

 

[Phlash]

BTW - no way the Pats will carry all 4 on the active roster, will they? Plus the FBs.The name escapes me but in 2008 the Jets ran a journeyman 30 times in the 4th preseason game. Think he got all of 88 yards or something lame. Lots of chatter on boards. Cut two days later, which was probably going to happen regardless of how he performed.It was a showcase - now that i think about it, doubtful they can work a trade on someone everyone in the league knows is a likely cutdown. So BJGE owes BB a solid for giving him another chance to show last year wasn't a total fluke.

Pats have no FBs and are expected to keep 5 RB (Maroney, Taylor, Faulk, Morris, BJGE).

Patriots don't need to carry a FB - they have TEs and Richard Seymour for that.

 

[BobbyLayne]

BTW - no way the Pats will carry all 4 on the active roster, will they? Plus the FBs.The name escapes me but in 2008 the Jets ran a journeyman 30 times in the 4th preseason game. Think he got all of 88 yards or something lame. Lots of chatter on boards. Cut two days later, which was probably going to happen regardless of how he performed.It was a showcase - now that i think about it, doubtful they can work a trade on someone everyone in the league knows is a likely cutdown. So BJGE owes BB a solid for giving him another chance to show last year wasn't a total fluke.

Pats have no FBs and are expected to keep 5 RB (Maroney, Taylor, Faulk, Morris, BJGE).

Thanks for clearing that up, David. Always trust your opinion on what is what over there.<<Must have been asleep when Evans signed with N.O. to replace Karney.Chris Taylor isn't going to play FB, then? Just a warm body to get through the last 2 preseason games?

 

[David Yudkin]

BTW - no way the Pats will carry all 4 on the active roster, will they? Plus the FBs.The name escapes me but in 2008 the Jets ran a journeyman 30 times in the 4th preseason game. Think he got all of 88 yards or something lame. Lots of chatter on boards. Cut two days later, which was probably going to happen regardless of how he performed.It was a showcase - now that i think about it, doubtful they can work a trade on someone everyone in the league knows is a likely cutdown. So BJGE owes BB a solid for giving him another chance to show last year wasn't a total fluke.

Pats have no FBs and are expected to keep 5 RB (Maroney, Taylor, Faulk, Morris, BJGE).

Thanks for clearing that up, David. Always trust your opinion on what is what over there.<<Must have been asleep when Evans signed with N.O. to replace Karney.Chris Taylor isn't going to play FB, then? Just a warm body to get through the last 2 preseason games?

As someone explained to me, CTaylor was added to be a tackling dummy for training camp.

 

[Carver]

BTW - no way the Pats will carry all 4 on the active roster, will they? Plus the FBs.The name escapes me but in 2008 the Jets ran a journeyman 30 times in the 4th preseason game. Think he got all of 88 yards or something lame. Lots of chatter on boards. Cut two days later, which was probably going to happen regardless of how he performed.It was a showcase - now that i think about it, doubtful they can work a trade on someone everyone in the league knows is a likely cutdown. So BJGE owes BB a solid for giving him another chance to show last year wasn't a total fluke.

Pats have no FBs and are expected to keep 5 RB (Maroney, Taylor, Faulk, Morris, BJGE).

Thanks for clearing that up, David. Always trust your opinion on what is what over there.<<Must have been asleep when Evans signed with N.O. to replace Karney.Chris Taylor isn't going to play FB, then? Just a warm body to get through the last 2 preseason games?

As someone explained to me, CTaylor was added to be a tackling dummy for training camp.

You dont think they will add him to the PS if he clears waivers?

 

[Carver]

BB came running out onto the field, like met him halfway, to pound his back and slap his helmut.That's crazy...who cares, right? But you gotta love that kind of effort, and while I'm no BB fan, I thought that was cool he got that fired up about it. Sure, the games means nothing, in the standings, to most of the fans or players, but it meant a lot to BJGE.

That was good stuff right there. Belichick was down around the 10 yrd line watching the play as if the season was on the line.

 

[David Yudkin]

BTW - no way the Pats will carry all 4 on the active roster, will they? Plus the FBs.The name escapes me but in 2008 the Jets ran a journeyman 30 times in the 4th preseason game. Think he got all of 88 yards or something lame. Lots of chatter on boards. Cut two days later, which was probably going to happen regardless of how he performed.It was a showcase - now that i think about it, doubtful they can work a trade on someone everyone in the league knows is a likely cutdown. So BJGE owes BB a solid for giving him another chance to show last year wasn't a total fluke.

Pats have no FBs and are expected to keep 5 RB (Maroney, Taylor, Faulk, Morris, BJGE).

Thanks for clearing that up, David. Always trust your opinion on what is what over there.<<Must have been asleep when Evans signed with N.O. to replace Karney.Chris Taylor isn't going to play FB, then? Just a warm body to get through the last 2 preseason games?

As someone explained to me, CTaylor was added to be a tackling dummy for training camp.

You dont think they will add him to the PS if he clears waivers?

There are rules for players being on the PS. I'm not sure if he has any eligibility. I believe that a player loses his PS eligibility once he was active in his 8th game. Taylor played in 7 games over two years. I know he was activated for other games, but I am unsure how things work upon going to another team. I'm guessing that he's not practice squad eligible. Will try to find out though.

 

[David Yudkin]

Practice squad eligibility does not restart upon switching teams, so Taylor would not be able to be stashed on the Practice Squad.

 

[Mr. Yuk]

BJGE....let's just call him Beej

 

[David Yudkin]

BJGE....let's just call him Beej

His teammates call him Law Firm.

 

[loose circuits]

I've loved this kid ever since the senior bowl when he displayed his power/vision. Reminds me of 2007 version of Ryan Grant at times. Loads of potential and probably the best long term option on the Patriots roster. He's out of PS eligibility so I was hoping he got cut and signed with another team. The kid has the goods

You guys trying to guess BB's motivations just crack me up. Have you watched any preseason football? Fred Taylor was playing in the 4th quarter at times this year. Trying to gauge rhyme or reason behind BB is laughable almost There were plenty of reports that stated BGE has moved ahead of Sammy Morris. I think Belichek was testing BGE as much as anything to see what he does with loads of carries. He's the type of back that hammers D's for 3 quarters, wears them out, and gets stronger in the 4th Q while the D is worn out. He displayed that type of ability last night.

 

[lod01]

So should I be reading much into this? I know it's the last pre-season game and Bellichk played the backups. But... BGE did start and played against the NYG starters.

Check out the numbers:

rush: 29/125 3 TD

rec: 4/22

I guess the real question is... who's actually going to run the ball in NE?

Ask yourself this: Are Benjarvis, Troy Williamson and David Carr are going to set the NFL world on fire, because they all are looking like superstars. There's your answer.However, he actually does have some value, unlike the other 2.

I think the one with the most value is the one who is actually a starter; Troy Williamson.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news again here but this isn't just magically fixed.
It will rear it's ugly head again and bye bye brick mits.

 

[Avery]

So should I be reading much into this? I know it's the last pre-season game and Bellichk played the backups. But... BGE did start and played against the NYG starters.

Check out the numbers:

rush: 29/125 3 TD

rec: 4/22

I guess the real question is... who's actually going to run the ball in NE?

Ask yourself this: Are Benjarvis, Troy Williamson and David Carr are going to set the NFL world on fire, because they all are looking like superstars. There's your answer.However, he actually does have some value, unlike the other 2.

I think the one with the most value is the one who is actually a starter; Troy Williamson.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news again here but this isn't just magically fixed.

Put things in perspective here.Obviously Williamson has issues. No one here has to watch a youtube video of him dropping easy catches to know that. This is the Shark Pool here. hE has a history of crappy hands. We all know that.

I'm not saying take Williamson instead of Moss, Bowe or even Holt. I might even take Ike Bruce over him. But Williamson is a starter and The Firm and Carr are not.

 

[Carver]

Practice squad eligibility does not restart upon switching teams, so Taylor would not be able to be stashed on the Practice Squad.

No, I believe Taylor is eligible.

 

[David Yudkin]

Practice squad eligibility does not restart upon switching teams, so Taylor would not be able to be stashed on the Practice Squad.

No, I believe Taylor is eligible.

I believe you are wrong based on the practice squad eligibility rules. Each NFL team may keep up to eight members on their "practice squad" in addition to their 53-member main roster. A player cannot participate on the practice squad for more than three seasons, or if he has accrued a year of NFL experience (six or more games on a club's 53-man active roster or official Injured Reserve list.) If the player was on the active list for fewer that 9 games during their "only Accrued Season(s)", they maintain their eligibility for the practice squad.He spent two years on I.R. in addition to being active for more than the number of games he needed to be activated for. So I don't see anyway he could be placed on the practice squad.

 

[Carver]

Practice squad eligibility does not restart upon switching teams, so Taylor would not be able to be stashed on the Practice Squad.

No, I believe Taylor is eligible.

I believe you are wrong based on the practice squad eligibility rules. Each NFL team may keep up to eight members on their "practice squad" in addition to their 53-member main roster. A player cannot participate on the practice squad for more than three seasons, or if he has accrued a year of NFL experience (six or more games on a club's 53-man active roster or official Injured Reserve list.) If the player was on the active list for fewer that 9 games during their "only Accrued Season(s)", they maintain their eligibility for the practice squad.

He spent two years on I.R. in addition to being active for more than the number of games he needed to be activated for. So I don't see anyway he could be placed on the practice squad.

He was only active for 4 games in 2006 and 3 games in 2008. You need at least 9 in any one season.Here are the complete rules.

The practice squad shall consist of the following players, provided that they have not served more than two previous seasons on a Practice Squad: (i) players who do not have an Accrued Season of NFL experience; and (ii) free agent players who were on the Active List for fewer than nine regular season games during their only Accrued Season(s). An otherwise eligible player may be a practice squad player for a third season only if the Club by which he is employed that season has at least 53 players on its Active/Inactive List during the entire period of his employment. A player shall be deemed to have served on a Practice Squad in a season if he has passed the club’s physical and been a member of the club’s Practice Squad for at least three regular season or postseason games during his first two Practice Squad seasons, and for at least one regular season or postseason game during his third Practice Squad season. (A bye week counts as a game provided that the player is not terminated until after the regular season or postseason weekend in question.) and who did not dress for more than eight (8) regular season games during their only accrued (i.e., on the 53 man roster for at least 6 games) season. Minimum salary for a practice squad player shall be $4,700 per week for the 2006-07 League Years, $5,200 per week for the 2008-10 League Years and the 2011 League Year if it is an Uncapped Year, and $5,700 per week for the 2011 League Year if it is a Capped Year and the 2012 League Year, including postseason weeks in which his Club is in the playoffs. Aigher salary can be negotiated. In addition, a player under contract to a club as a Practice Squad player is completely free to sign a contract with another NFL club during the season in order to be on the second club's Active/Inactive (i.e., 53 man) list. A practice squad player may not sign an NFL Player Contract with his Club’s next opponent later than 4:00 p.m., New York time, on the sixth day preceding the game (except in bye weeks, when the prohibition commences on the tenth day preceding the game).If another club signs a Practice Squad player to its 53 man roster it does not have to provide any sort of compensation to the player's former club but it generally must keep the player on the 53 man roster for at least 3 weeks, thereby mandating that he earns the minimum first year salary for said 3 week period ( prorated weekly). Also note that a team can add and release players from the practice squad as often as it desires and the eight (8) man limit does not have to be maintained. A player may be on the practice squad for two seasons; three weeks on the practice squad count as a season. An otherwise eligible player may be a practice squad player for a third season only if the Club by which he is employed that season has at least 53 players on its Active/Inactive List during the entire period of his employment. The League may elect to allow some or all Clubs to add to their practice squads one additional player, who shall not count against the limit above, whose citizenship and principal place of residence are outside the United States and its Territories (“International Player”). The League’s election in any one season shall not determine or affect its election in any subsequent season.