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Best 100 QB's of the modern era (1 Viewer)
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Burning Sensation
Footballguy
I stopped reading when i saw Ken Anderson ahead of Brett Favre.
What a #### list. Brady in the 50's????!!!! That was what immediately made this list have no credit at all while I scanned it. He deserves to be at LEAST in the top 15-20. And how does Vick make it? He's not even among the best 15 QB's in the game RIGHT NOW.
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by_the_sea_wannabe
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Please name the 15 qb's better than Vick ? I count 6, with a few close calls.
Tillmanisahero
Footballguy
I think you could name 15 QBs that play right now let a lone of all time.The list is pretty silly....Mark Burnell #23 all time? Thats crazy.
GoBills02
Footballguy
Thats when I stopped, well not really, had to see where they had Kelly.
Burning Sensation
Footballguy
ManningBradyRoethlisbergerBreesHasselbeckMcnairFavrePalmerBulgerMcnabbThere is probably more, im just too lazy to think.
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FavreCo
Footballguy
Vick who?
oddball
Smart
There ya go.
Their method is flawed, if you see their "demonstration"
+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
| Passing | Rushing |
+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
| Year TM | G | Comp Att PCT YD Y/A TD INT | Att Yards TD |
+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
| 1966 kan | 14 | 159 284 56.0 2527 8.9 26 10 | 24 167 0 |
+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+The environment of the 1966 AFL looked like this:
GP LgCmp/G LgAtt/G LgPYds/G LgPTD/G LgInt/G LgRush/G LgRYds/G LgRTD/G
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
14 14.62 31.60 215.30 1.58 1.72 28.95 116.13 0.90
So, after applying our normalization technique to Dawson's raw stats, this is the equivalent performance in the 2006 NFL:
+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
| Passing | Rushing |
+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
| Year TM | G | Comp Att PCT YD Y/A TD INT | Att Yards TD |
+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
| 2006 kan | 16 | 238 329 72.3 2942 8.9 24 7 | 27 193 0 |
+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+Repeating this procedure for every player-season in the NFL since 1950, we now have a database of stats that can be compared with each other to determine the best modern players at each position.
Note how in 14 games, the guy throws for 26 TDs and 10 INTS
In 16 he somehow manages throw 3 less INTs?
If a guy had 10 INTs in 14, I believe he would throw for MORE in 2 more games, not 3 LESS!
What a stupid waste of life this/these person/s are.
+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
| Passing | Rushing |
+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
| Year TM | G | Comp Att PCT YD Y/A TD INT | Att Yards TD |
+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
| 1966 kan | 14 | 159 284 56.0 2527 8.9 26 10 | 24 167 0 |
+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+The environment of the 1966 AFL looked like this:
GP LgCmp/G LgAtt/G LgPYds/G LgPTD/G LgInt/G LgRush/G LgRYds/G LgRTD/G
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
14 14.62 31.60 215.30 1.58 1.72 28.95 116.13 0.90
So, after applying our normalization technique to Dawson's raw stats, this is the equivalent performance in the 2006 NFL:
+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
| Passing | Rushing |
+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
| Year TM | G | Comp Att PCT YD Y/A TD INT | Att Yards TD |
+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
| 2006 kan | 16 | 238 329 72.3 2942 8.9 24 7 | 27 193 0 |
+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+Repeating this procedure for every player-season in the NFL since 1950, we now have a database of stats that can be compared with each other to determine the best modern players at each position.
Note how in 14 games, the guy throws for 26 TDs and 10 INTS
In 16 he somehow manages throw 3 less INTs?
If a guy had 10 INTs in 14, I believe he would throw for MORE in 2 more games, not 3 LESS!
What a stupid waste of life this/these person/s are.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Or maybe it's a hell of a lot easier to pass today than it used to be. And they used, like, math and stuff to adjust.
IMHO, people who publicly advertise their lack of reading comprehension skill to be a much bigger "waste of life".
moleculo
Footballguy
I actually don't think it's a terrible list. most similar lists are very heavily slanted to recent players - guys form previous eras seem to be forgotten.
While I'm not certain Ken Anderson deserves to be in the top 10, he probably does merit consideration overall, and it's nice to see guys previously overlooked included.
While I'm not certain Ken Anderson deserves to be in the top 10, he probably does merit consideration overall, and it's nice to see guys previously overlooked included.
The Shizzle
Footballguy
Brunell #23, Brady #54........No thanks.
DanFouts
Footballguy
I am pretty happy......
#8: Dan Fouts
Another product of Bill Walsh's innovative offensive mind (Walsh was the Chargers' OC in 1976 and planted the seeds for their high-powered passing attack), Fouts hit his stride under coach Don "Air" Coryell in 1978. From '78 to '82, Fouts played at a level reserved for only the best QBs in football history, twice leading the league in PAR and finishing in the Top 5 three more times. Fouts threw an amazing deep ball, and had a great stable of receivers to throw to, including Charlie Joiner, Kellen Winslow, John Jefferson, and Wes Chandler. Among his many statistical accomplishments, Fouts had back-to-back 30-TD seasons in 1980 and 1981, and threw for 4,000+ yards in '79, '80, and '81, both of which were very rare feats at the time. Had his 1982 campaign not been shortened by the strike, he was on pace for one of the great passing seasons of all time (pro-rated to 16 games, Fouts would have eclipsed 5,000 passing yards that year). So while he never led San Diego to the Super Bowl, Fouts' impressive stats earn him a spot in our all-time Top 10
#8: Dan Fouts
Another product of Bill Walsh's innovative offensive mind (Walsh was the Chargers' OC in 1976 and planted the seeds for their high-powered passing attack), Fouts hit his stride under coach Don "Air" Coryell in 1978. From '78 to '82, Fouts played at a level reserved for only the best QBs in football history, twice leading the league in PAR and finishing in the Top 5 three more times. Fouts threw an amazing deep ball, and had a great stable of receivers to throw to, including Charlie Joiner, Kellen Winslow, John Jefferson, and Wes Chandler. Among his many statistical accomplishments, Fouts had back-to-back 30-TD seasons in 1980 and 1981, and threw for 4,000+ yards in '79, '80, and '81, both of which were very rare feats at the time. Had his 1982 campaign not been shortened by the strike, he was on pace for one of the great passing seasons of all time (pro-rated to 16 games, Fouts would have eclipsed 5,000 passing yards that year). So while he never led San Diego to the Super Bowl, Fouts' impressive stats earn him a spot in our all-time Top 10
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