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Best albums of 2014 (2 Viewers)

These are albums that my twenty-something self would have adored, and my forty-something self still enjoys. Pop-punk seems to back in fashion after a long hiatus in quality.

PUP's album is really good Weezer-ish/HC/punk. http://noisey.vice.com/blog/pups-debut-album-is-a-perfect-ten

Cayetana's pop/punk album is streaming now, and IMO, is really good pop-punk. http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2014/09/stream_cayetana.html

Also, The Coathangers "Suck My Shirt" features songs that are always too long (a complaint raised by an astute Pitchfork reviewer) but their album is pretty good, too. Here's a sample...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu6wUrCNYlQ

 
These are albums that my twenty-something self would have adored, and my forty-something self still enjoys. Pop-punk seems to back in fashion after a long hiatus in quality.

PUP's album is really good Weezer-ish/HC/punk. http://noisey.vice.com/blog/pups-debut-album-is-a-perfect-ten

Cayetana's pop/punk album is streaming now, and IMO, is really good pop-punk. http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2014/09/stream_cayetana.html

Also, The Coathangers "Suck My Shirt" features songs that are always too long (a complaint raised by an astute Pitchfork reviewer) but their album is pretty good, too. Here's a sample...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu6wUrCNYlQ
There's still a lot of dreck out there (see above-mentioned "Say Anything"), but Masked Intruder is really strong.

 
These are albums that my twenty-something self would have adored, and my forty-something self still enjoys. Pop-punk seems to back in fashion after a long hiatus in quality.

PUP's album is really good Weezer-ish/HC/punk. http://noisey.vice.com/blog/pups-debut-album-is-a-perfect-ten

Cayetana's pop/punk album is streaming now, and IMO, is really good pop-punk. http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2014/09/stream_cayetana.html

Also, The Coathangers "Suck My Shirt" features songs that are always too long (a complaint raised by an astute Pitchfork reviewer) but their album is pretty good, too. Here's a sample...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu6wUrCNYlQ
There's still a lot of dreck out there (see above-mentioned "Say Anything"), but Masked Intruder is really strong.
I wouldn't doubt that there's a lot of bad stuff out there. The best pop-punk was always rooted in weird alt/punk enclaves where bands that had started with their feet in 80's HC/punk turned melodic and started writing pop songs. It turned real sour after about '97, when every band was trying to imitate Screeching Weasel leads and Ramones riffs without a sure footing or confidence in what they were doing. It didn't help that a lot of the bands doing it in the late nineties and the aughts didn't have both the built-up credibility and searing contrarianism of the Queers and other authentic punk bands that were doing melodic stuff -- bands who weren't just doing it as just a Ramones-worship thing, but also as part of a movement that involved a thumbing of the nose at the orthodoxy of the leftist punk scenes at the time (The Queers being photographed at the Purple Onion for one of their albums instead of at Gilman Street was one of those decisions, as were many others by the bands of that time, and both pop-punk and garage-influenced bands were sort of rebelling against what, IMO, was a nineties leftist orthodoxy that found its outlet mainly in alternative scenes during that period. Pop-punk, garage, psychobilly, etc., had had enough and was, while never conservative, at least rebelling against orthodoxy).

The "Say Anything" fiasco was tough to read (I checked your link out). I don't think Marah Eakin -- the AV Club writer -- is correct on the time frame of when that song was written, and I'd always assumed (back in '93 or so) what the guy from Say Anything did. I guess you can't Kill Yr Idols anymore or some nostalgia-drenched journalist is going to contradict Nirvana's own biographer and then pass it off as fact. Too bad the guy didn't have a computer in front of him for a quick Wiki search. I still wouldn't listen to that band, regardless. Pop-punk has had, as you say, a lot of dreck over the past fifteen years. I'm just pointing out some bands that seem to have used some nineties alt influences mixed with their punkish tunes to create a slightly different and listenable vibe.

I'll have to check out Masked Intruder.

And The Muffs returned with a pretty well-received album, Whoop De Doo, out on Burger records. Cool things afoot for the pop punkers, girl group aficionados, and garage rockers these days.

 
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The New Pornographers have a new album - thoughts?
Left me a bit cold, and I'm a big fan of all five of their previous mp3 folders.
There are about 3 songs I really really like and then the rest is all pretty OK to me. Not their best effort, but not terrible either. I aboslutely adore Champions of Red Wine.

I'm annoyed that they're only playing the Treasure Island Music Festival here in the Bay Area. I'd go see them but can't/won't commit a whole weekend to it.

 
The New Pornographers have a new album - thoughts?
Left me a bit cold, and I'm a big fan of all five of their previous mp3 folders.
There are about 3 songs I really really like and then the rest is all pretty OK to me. Not their best effort, but not terrible either. I aboslutely adore Champions of Red Wine.

I'm annoyed that they're only playing the Treasure Island Music Festival here in the Bay Area. I'd go see them but can't/won't commit a whole weekend to it.
Yeah, I had the same thought. There isn't much else on that bill that appeals to me at all.

 
The New Pornographers have a new album - thoughts?
Left me a bit cold, and I'm a big fan of all five of their previous mp3 folders.
There are about 3 songs I really really like and then the rest is all pretty OK to me. Not their best effort, but not terrible either. I aboslutely adore Champions of Red Wine.

I'm annoyed that they're only playing the Treasure Island Music Festival here in the Bay Area. I'd go see them but can't/won't commit a whole weekend to it.
Yeah, I had the same thought. There isn't much else on that bill that appeals to me at all.
Birds of a feather

 
CoRW is a standout for me too along with Dancehall Domine and You Tell Me Where but I agree with y'all. Album won't get a ton of replay.

 
Somewhat instructive in re: the Nirvana thing: 1, taken from a show played on Oct 1991, only a few weeks after Nirvana came out (and before they got super, super, super huge) and 2, he states pretty explicitly what the song's about:

This is the first song of the encore, as you might gather.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP2emO_meSI
Yeah, but that's after Nevermind came out, as the biographer pointed out. But, I've now read from comment sections that his home demo recordings from 1990 had "Rape Me" on it, which might explain Eakin's claim that he wrote it before he wrote stuff for Nevermind. She may be right. I was going by the biographer's timeframe.

As for the song meaning, I can't tell the songwriter what a song's about; all we have are his explicit statements, background, and textual analysis. There's nothing to suggest that what he explicitly states isn't what he meant by the song; his feminist bona fides were always front and center, from his choice in music to the scene and area he was involved with; and the text is vague, so yeah, what I thought about the song's meaning in 1993 is clearly not foolproof, nor did I mean to suggest that. I can just see how the guy from Say Anything made the mistake. And there's also statesmanship. He may have written a song with a metaphorical double meaning, and the media-driven narrative is one that still holds with many people to this day. So...I guess that's it on my end. Really unsure, but willing to take both the AV Club and the songwriter as authority on the issue.

 
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If you look at the final lyrics for Rape Me, it's CLEARLY directed at the press, so while the Say Anything guy is a whiny emo doosher, if he really knew what he was talking about he could have slapped that interviewer rather than looking stupid

"Your favorite inside source" / "Appreciate your concern"

There's not much to it, and I think it sucks too

 
If you look at the final lyrics for Rape Me, it's CLEARLY directed at the press, so while the Say Anything guy is a whiny emo doosher, if he really knew what he was talking about he could have slapped that interviewer rather than looking stupid

"Your favorite inside source" / "Appreciate your concern"

There's not much to it, and I think it sucks too
It's very possible, or it could be a song written for one thing, and then has something else tacked on later.

Even still, if this guy's purportedly a big Nirvana fan, I don't see how "Rape Me" falls so far outside of Nirvana's oeuvre that it's one's least-favorite song. I mean I like that he didn't shoot for any low-hanging fruit because that's boring (Nickelback, etc.), but the whole thing's kind of weird.

And apparently the guy listens to a lot of KROQ. :shrug:

 
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The New Pornographers have a new album - thoughts?
Left me a bit cold, and I'm a big fan of all five of their previous mp3 folders.
There are about 3 songs I really really like and then the rest is all pretty OK to me. Not their best effort, but not terrible either. I aboslutely adore Champions of Red Wine.

I'm annoyed that they're only playing the Treasure Island Music Festival here in the Bay Area. I'd go see them but can't/won't commit a whole weekend to it.
Yeah, I had the same thought. There isn't much else on that bill that appeals to me at all.
Birds of a feather
Saturday used to be all of the bloopity-bloop acts, and Sunday was for all of the grumpy old rockists. I'm not even sure who's on what day now, it seems like they've sold themselves over entirely to the EDM crowd, with maybe a couple of token acts included. I can't imagine the NP's going over as anything but a fart in church in front of a bunch of molly'd up bros at 4 pm.

 
I've mentioned that I listen to the KCRW music mine on Spotify. They put a handful of each DJ's songs into a playlist each day, so you get a pretty wide spectrum of things but with occasional overlaps as different DJs get into the same new album.

They are fapping over David Grey's new album- on pretty much every DJ's playlist. Not something I'm that into... but maybe you guys are?

 
The New Pornographers have a new album - thoughts?
Left me a bit cold, and I'm a big fan of all five of their previous mp3 folders.
There are about 3 songs I really really like and then the rest is all pretty OK to me. Not their best effort, but not terrible either. I aboslutely adore Champions of Red Wine.

I'm annoyed that they're only playing the Treasure Island Music Festival here in the Bay Area. I'd go see them but can't/won't commit a whole weekend to it.
Yeah, I had the same thought. There isn't much else on that bill that appeals to me at all.
Saw them on the weekend as well, and can tell you that "Backstairs" might have been the best song in their whole damn set (live, anyway). Dancehall Domine is pretty great as well.

 
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I think I saw St Vincent on snl or somewhere else recently-mrs nugs really liked the lead. Good call. No idea who real estate is. Is that the replacements that've been around for awhile-the westerberg band? Looks like I got homework before the show.

Thanks for heads up!

 
I'm going to acl oct 10 to see pj, outkast, beck, spoon and broken bells. Who else on that monster roster is a can't miss or sleeper band? I'm familiar with a bunch of the groups but don't know a bunch too.

http://www.aclfestival.com/2014-lineup/
Have you looked at the schedule yet? You've already got a conflict... Beck and Outkast are playing at the same time Friday night.

I would also recommend J Roddy Walston but he's playing at the same time as St Vincent. Both are awesome live. There's nothing quite like St Vincent though, so I'd go with her. :wub:

If you're there in time, Temples would be a great way to start the day. CHVRCHES is another good one Friday.

Oh and there's usually an ACL thread in the FFA. Can't remember if there's one yet for this year.

 
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The Replacements and Real Estate.
Replacements play at the same time as Spoon, unfortunately. Real Estate is a good one.

Going this year? I'm tempted to go just Friday but probably won't.

 
"The Shadow of Heaven" by MONEY was a 2013 release in the UK but came out here during the summer. They're a Manchester band that likes soaring emotionalism as much as they do excessive capitalization. It's the type of English art rock that usually doesn't get a lot of love in this thread but I think their record is excellent.. Their songs manage to be grand yet intimate and have held up (for me) since the original release. My useless 1990s point of reference would be a post-rock version of The Verve fronted by Jeff Buckley but they don't really sound like either of them at all.

 
New Interpol sounds a lot like, well, Interpol. Not breaking any new ground, but if you like past stuff, this is decent album.

 
Just realized Bo Ningen have a new album this year... "lll"

it rocks pretty hard. hard enough to consistently make me forget they're speaking japanese. reminds me a bit of a band I liked long ago called Pterodactyl (from brooklyn)... paging PirateMike.

 
Stu - thanks. No haven't checked the lineup....suppose that's important. Doh. I think I've seen beck 6 times and outkast 0 so I'll prolly roll with andre3k. Mrs nugs wants to check out chvrches and Lana so ***schedule pending*** gonna add as much as possible. This gonna be like Woodstock? 45 minute sets b2b for 3 days? Sorry, I'm sooo noob for acl.

 
I think I saw St Vincent on snl or somewhere else recently-mrs nugs really liked the lead. Good call. No idea who real estate is. Is that the replacements that've been around for awhile-the westerberg band? Looks like I got homework before the show.

Thanks for heads up!

 
"The Shadow of Heaven" by MONEY was a 2013 release in the UK but came out here during the summer. They're a Manchester band that likes soaring emotionalism as much as they do excessive capitalization. It's the type of English art rock that usually doesn't get a lot of love in this thread but I think their record is excellent.. Their songs manage to be grand yet intimate and have held up (for me) since the original release. My useless 1990s point of reference would be a post-rock version of The Verve fronted by Jeff Buckley but they don't really sound like either of them at all.
Excellent album. Thanks for posting this.

 
Too bad you quit teh hoof
I quit?

eta: didn't it move or something... I kinda lost track/forgot. I guess that's the same as quitting.
You and all but like 4 people

I like the new Robert Plant too, check it oot. Seems like his best in quite a while
I still :wub: the hoof but Spotify has changed my consumption/accumulation habits.

The Plant album is very good.
I check the hoof once in a while to see what's coming out. And hopefully on Spotify ...

 

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