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Best and Worst Drafts: Day One (1 Viewer)

Jason Wood

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These threads are generally good for little more than bumping a year or two later to see how foolish we all sounded with our "analysis", but since I came away COMPLETELY unsatisfied with the Eagles' draft I might as well chime in before I go drown my sorrows in the rest of this Yeungling 12-pack.

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Best Drafts of Day One:

Carolina Panthers -- Several of their picks (Kalil, Jarrett) may not contribute much this season, but all four guys project as potential NFL starters. Kalil, as is typical of the best center each year, fell below his projected value by a round or two. Beason may start right away and Jarrett gets the benefit of learning from Keyshawn and Steve Smith before taking over for Key in a year or two. Solid picks 1-4.

Cleveland Browns -- Granted, the Browns gave up a lot to move up for both Quinn and Wright, so we won't be able to judge this until we see how much they lost in opportunity next year. However, based purely on their Day One haul, they came away with a franchise QB [who knows their system, such a rarity for a young QB], the best tackle in the draft and a corner who absolutely would've been a 1st rounder were it not for "character" issues. Three clear top 20 talents for a team that is in a Win Now mode. Solid.

San Francisco --- WOW. This team appears headed for a resurgence. Best [and lowest risk] LB in the draft, a tackle that could easily start for them if not in '08, then '09, a talented WR in Hill [who I thought was one of the underrated players at the position] and a DE that should contribute in a rotation as a situational player. SOLID. If they add DJax for a 4th rounder as rumored, this was a fantastic day for the 49ers.

Honorable Mention -- NY Jets -- Only two picks, but they should both start for the Jets next year. Both are big program guys who had excellent and consistent showings against top competition, and fill key needs.

Worst Drafts of Day One:

Chicago Bears -- Olsen fell into their laps, hard to complain about that. But Bazuin and Wolfe are arguably the two biggest reaches of the day [or at least among the top half dozen]. Okwo is considered a sleeper but he was on an AWFUL college team and is considered a long-term project.

Miami Dolphins -- I'm biased here because I'm no fan of Ted Ginn. Even if he can duplicate the return skills of Devin Hester, they're paying him top 10 money for it; so there's no value there. I could be wrong, but I don't see Ginn contributing as a WR for years. Beck is a 26-year old mechanical drop back QB. Could be good, but he is one of a bunch of mediocre QB prospects that went in the 2nd round; just not seeing it. I don't know much about Satele, but the grades suggest this was a reach pick. Finally, I'm on record as thinking Booker is nothing more than a change of pace back in this league. Yawner for a team that needed help in a lot of placed.

Philadelphia Eagles -- We fleeced Dallas to move out of the first round as I suspected we might. Then we take a QB in the early 2nd? Not to mention it's a system QB who played in the run and shoot and has a weak arm. Great. Abiamiri does nothing for me. Another undersized pass rushing end who has never heard of stopping the run. Beautiful. Steward Bradly almost saved this day by himself, he was a top 5 OLB prospect on everyone's boards and will push for a starting spot in '08 or '09. And Hunt? He's a bruising inside runner that doesn't fit the Eagles offense. If the Birds plan on using a more traditional pro set at times, OK. But why would we expect that to happen?

Seattle Seahawks -- CB and DT were needs, but neither of these guys should've been first day picks. And Seattle didn't have the extra picks to waste of projects.

Tennessee Titans -- Giffin may be solid, but Chris Henry is a guy whose film says "late rounder" but worked out well. Given the Titans RB situation, this was an ill advised need pick. And Paul Williams? How many marginal WRs do the Titans need on the roster? Where's the stud WR to help Vince Young develop?

Honorable Mention: Washington Redskins -- I'm a fan of Laron Landry, and he fills a need. But the Redskins keep acting as though signing veteran FAs is the key to winning. Have they looked at their win-loss record under Snyder? Joe Gibbs looks like Richie Petitbon since his return and one player, even if he's a good one, isn't enough for a team that is staring up at the rest of its division.

 
Pats didn't have many picks so when you compare players gained **in the draft** by each team, they've gotta be real low.

Next year they should get a favorable rating though

 
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Here are my top 5

1. Bills - Liked all three picks

2. Cardinals - Brown will fill in admirably at teams greatest need, and Branch could be the SOD

3. Cowboys - Any time you can acquire a Cleveland first rounder for a minor trade down you've got to be happy

4. Panthers - Jarrett and Kalil were steals

5. 49ers - Big Willlis fan and Staley and Hill picks weren't too shabby

 
Dallas may have had the best first day. They got a phenomenal deal on the trade with Cleveland. I think Cleveland also had a good first day, even though I'm not a huge fan of Quinn, because they took the right guy first and still got the other guy they wanted. Not much you can fault there.

 
How can you not have Dallas as a top 5 draft...acquiring Cleveland's '08 first rounder for a minor trade down is huge.

 
Dallas may have had the best first day. They got a phenomenal deal on the trade with Cleveland. I think Cleveland also had a good first day, even though I'm not a huge fan of Quinn, because they took the right guy first and still got the other guy they wanted. Not much you can fault there.
Cleveland gave up too much for a QB that I believe is Rick Mirer part 2.
 
These threads are generally good for little more than bumping a year or two later to see how foolish we all sounded with our "analysis", but since I came away COMPLETELY unsatisfied with the Eagles' draft I might as well chime in before I go drown my sorrows in the rest of this Yeungling 12-pack.

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Best Drafts of Day One:

Carolina Panthers -- Several of their picks (Kalil, Jarrett) may not contribute much this season, but all four guys project as potential NFL starters. Kalil, as is typical of the best center each year, fell below his projected value by a round or two. Beason may start right away and Jarrett gets the benefit of learning from Keyshawn and Steve Smith before taking over for Key in a year or two. Solid picks 1-4.

Cleveland Browns -- Granted, the Browns gave up a lot to move up for both Quinn and Wright, so we won't be able to judge this until we see how much they lost in opportunity next year. However, based purely on their Day One haul, they came away with a franchise QB [who knows their system, such a rarity for a young QB], the best tackle in the draft and a corner who absolutely would've been a 1st rounder were it not for "character" issues. Three clear top 20 talents for a team that is in a Win Now mode. Solid.

San Francisco --- WOW. This team appears headed for a resurgence. Best [and lowest risk] LB in the draft, a tackle that could easily start for them if not in '08, then '09, a talented WR in Hill [who I thought was one of the underrated players at the position] and a DE that should contribute in a rotation as a situational player. SOLID. If they add DJax for a 4th rounder as rumored, this was a fantastic day for the 49ers.

Honorable Mention -- NY Jets -- Only two picks, but they should both start for the Jets next year. Both are big program guys who had excellent and consistent showings against top competition, and fill key needs.

Worst Drafts of Day One:

Chicago Bears -- Olsen fell into their laps, hard to complain about that. But Bazuin and Wolfe are arguably the two biggest reaches of the day [or at least among the top half dozen]. Okwo is considered a sleeper but he was on an AWFUL college team and is considered a long-term project.

Miami Dolphins -- I'm biased here because I'm no fan of Ted Ginn. Even if he can duplicate the return skills of Devin Hester, they're paying him top 10 money for it; so there's no value there. I could be wrong, but I don't see Ginn contributing as a WR for years. Beck is a 26-year old mechanical drop back QB. Could be good, but he is one of a bunch of mediocre QB prospects that went in the 2nd round; just not seeing it. I don't know much about Satele, but the grades suggest this was a reach pick. Finally, I'm on record as thinking Booker is nothing more than a change of pace back in this league. Yawner for a team that needed help in a lot of placed.

Philadelphia Eagles -- We fleeced Dallas to move out of the first round as I suspected we might. Then we take a QB in the early 2nd? Not to mention it's a system QB who played in the run and shoot and has a weak arm. Great. Abiamiri does nothing for me. Another undersized pass rushing end who has never heard of stopping the run. Beautiful. Steward Bradly almost saved this day by himself, he was a top 5 OLB prospect on everyone's boards and will push for a starting spot in '08 or '09. And Hunt? He's a bruising inside runner that doesn't fit the Eagles offense. If the Birds plan on using a more traditional pro set at times, OK. But why would we expect that to happen?

Seattle Seahawks -- CB and DT were needs, but neither of these guys should've been first day picks. And Seattle didn't have the extra picks to waste of projects.

Tennessee Titans -- Giffin may be solid, but Chris Henry is a guy whose film says "late rounder" but worked out well. Given the Titans RB situation, this was an ill advised need pick. And Paul Williams? How many marginal WRs do the Titans need on the roster? Where's the stud WR to help Vince Young develop?

Honorable Mention: Washington Redskins -- I'm a fan of Laron Landry, and he fills a need. But the Redskins keep acting as though signing veteran FAs is the key to winning. Have they looked at their win-loss record under Snyder? Joe Gibbs looks like Richie Petitbon since his return and one player, even if he's a good one, isn't enough for a team that is staring up at the rest of its division.
Kolb does not have a below average arm...he actually has a slightly above average arm. Abiamari is not that undersized and actually is not that bad against the run. As far as Hunt, what did you want, another Moats clone? How long have Philly fans clamored for a big back? He's good in pass protection also..
 
Dallas may have had the best first day. They got a phenomenal deal on the trade with Cleveland. I think Cleveland also had a good first day, even though I'm not a huge fan of Quinn, because they took the right guy first and still got the other guy they wanted. Not much you can fault there.
Cleveland gave up too much for a QB that I believe is Rick Mirer part 2.
Apparently they weren't aware of your opinion on this. I think they took their best chance at making progess this year. Quinn, Edwards, Winslow, Lewis, Thomas, Andruzzi, and possibly Bentley is a pretty solid core on offense. I understand you're not a Quinn fan, and I'm not either, but I think the fact he dropped in the draft actually decreases the likelihood he busts because he'll have more to prove, while also giving him a better offensive line to start out behind.
 
Here are my top 51. Bills - Liked all three picks2. Cardinals - Brown will fill in admirably at teams greatest need, and Branch could be the SOD3. Cowboys - Any time you can acquire a Cleveland first rounder for a minor trade down you've got to be happy4. Panthers - Jarrett and Kalil were steals5. 49ers - Big Willlis fan and Staley and Hill picks weren't too shabby
Agreeing with Hucks makes me feel all dirty. But these are your top 5.
 
Ted Thompson might be the most hated person in Green Bay Packers history...at least judging by my visits to their message boards today!

 
The Titans are quickly becoming a complete joke. Adding Dwayne Bowe in round one would've given them a great target for Young for the next five years. Instead they draft a questionable defensive back (Andre Woolfolk anyone?) who looks like a pretty big reach.

But that wasn't even the worst mistake. Taking Chris Henry in round two looks like a disaster. He might not ever start a game for them (or anyone). This team isn't nearly good enough to be blowing 2nd round picks on 5th round players.

If that weren't enough, they used their third round pick on inconsistent and immature WR Paul Williams. He actually has some talent, but I doubt he'll ever amount to anything more than a distraction.

I give this draft an F-. A stunning display of complete and utter ineptitude.

 
I'm back... :thumbup: :rant:

According to Bloom the Cats netted a mid 1st, late 1st, borderline 1st, and early 2nd. Of course the consensus was the 1st round grades ended around the mid-first.

 
very happy with the Bills draft. I thought Posluszny was a legit possibility for them at the #12 spot and they wound up getting him in round 2. Edwards was good value even though he doesn't fill a need.

as for other teams, I really liked what the Falcons did. They traded Matt Schaub, but wound up with a DE replacement for Kerney, perhaps the best guard in the draft, and a potential lockdown CB. Don't know much about the WR they drafted but he has good size and speed and could develop into a big play threat.

also like the 49ers draft. Willis should be a great addition to the middle of their defense. Staley will improve the blocking for Alex Smith and Frank Gore. Jason Hill could compete for a starting spot or at least the #3 WR job. And, I think Ray McDonald is a perfect fit for their defense.

as for drafts I didn't like much, I'd say the Dolphins are the easy choice. Ginn seemed like an early candidate for worst pick of the draft. The team needed offensive line help in a big way and only drafted 1 with their first 4 picks. The team has Culpepper and Cleo Lemon and seemed close to trading for Trent Green, so not sure why they felt a need to grab Beck where they did. I like the Booker pick where they got him, but he's kind of a luxury if Ricky Williams returns and the pick may have been better spent elsewhere.

Not too impressed with the Titans draft either. Griffin doesn't fill a big need for them, and Henry certainly seems like a workout warrior and future bust to me. Also, not a big fan of the Paul Williams pick considering all the quality WRs who went earlier.

I agree the Seahawks had a disappointing 1st day too. Neither player they added figures to make much of an impact, but I guess they did get Deion Branch for their 1st rounder.

also wasn't crazy about the Packers, Buccaneers, or Patriots draft day.

 
The Titans are quickly becoming a complete joke. Adding Dwayne Bowe in round one would've given them a great target for Young for the next five years. Instead they draft a questionable defensive back (Andre Woolfolk anyone?) who looks like a pretty big reach. But that wasn't even the worst mistake. Taking Chris Henry in round two looks like a disaster. He might not ever start a game for them (or anyone). This team isn't nearly good enough to be blowing 2nd round picks on 5th round players. If that weren't enough, they used their third round pick on inconsistent and immature WR Paul Williams. He actually has some talent, but I doubt he'll ever amount to anything more than a distraction. I give this draft an F-. A stunning display of complete and utter ineptitude.
 
also wasn't crazy about the ...Buccaneers... draft day.
Really? I thought they did a good job getting help on both lines, which they needed. The Bucs had the second fewest sacks in the league last year, which should turn around if Rice is healthy and Adams looks good on the other side. The Bucs missed out on Joe Thomas, but got one of the better offensive linemen in the draft with their second pick. Piscitelli's a good fit for the Tampa two, and is a good tweener at the safety/linebacker spots. All the negatives I've read about him seem to be minor and/or should be less of an issue on a team like Tampa. Those all seem like good picks to me.
 
Seattle Seahawks -- CB and DT were needs, but neither of these guys should've been first day picks. And Seattle didn't have the extra picks to waste of projects.
That seems unfair. Seattle already has starters in place at all 24 positions, so yes, they do have picks to use on projects. However, calling Mebane a "project" is way off base. He's a superb run stuffer and should fit into their DT rotation perfectly.Lastly, you've discounted their first round pick invested in Branch.
 
Aaron Rudnicki said:
as for other teams, I really liked what the Falcons did. They traded Matt Schaub, but wound up with a DE replacement for Kerney, perhaps the best guard in the draft, and a potential lockdown CB. Don't know much about the WR they drafted but he has good size and speed and could develop into a big play threat.
:yes: McKay said Jimmy Williams is moving to safety now.ETA: I like the possibility of getting Bush in the 4th, great value. Of course, if Petrino doesn't take him, I won't question it.
 
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bostonfred said:
Aaron Rudnicki said:
also wasn't crazy about the ...Buccaneers... draft day.
Really? I thought they did a good job getting help on both lines, which they needed. The Bucs had the second fewest sacks in the league last year, which should turn around if Rice is healthy and Adams looks good on the other side. The Bucs missed out on Joe Thomas, but got one of the better offensive linemen in the draft with their second pick. Piscitelli's a good fit for the Tampa two, and is a good tweener at the safety/linebacker spots. All the negatives I've read about him seem to be minor and/or should be less of an issue on a team like Tampa. Those all seem like good picks to me.
Adams looks like he could be a great pass rusher and I agree he fills a need for them, but he also might be a bit one dimensional for the #4 overall pick. I'm not sure who would have been a better pick...just not totally sold on him. Not sure how much it would have cost them to trade up, but I would have liked to see them get CJ or Thomas instead. If not that, trading down and adding extra picks might not have been a bad idea either.They definitely needed to upgrade the offensive line and Sears should help there. I don't have a big problem with that pick.I didn't like the Piscitelli pick much at all. Doesn't seem like a good fit in their defense to me. He reminds me of Adam Archuleta/Coy Wire/Michael Boulware who are liabilities in coverage and pretty much need to play up in the box to be most effective. I'm not sure he has the coverage skills to stay at safety and not sure he has the size/strength to play OLB. I think they may have been better off with LaRon Landry in the 1st, Justin Blalock in the early 2nd, and Quentin Moses with their late 2nd pick. Not too crazy about Quincy Black either. Seems like a good athlete without natural LB instincts.
 
Any opinions on Green Bay? Does anyone know anything about James Jones WR?
I didn't like their day too much. Harrell could be a solid player, but he seemed like a reach at that point in the draft and I don't think he fills much of a need for the Packers. Jackson fills a big need and could be a better pro than he was in college. James Jones could be considered a steal in a year or two...but he looks like a project. I like Rouse to be their strong safety at some point, but he also seems like he'll need a year or two to develop. I guess the Packers are content to build for the future, which is fine. I just don't see much here that will help them right away, except for Jackson I guess.
 
Any opinions on Green Bay? Does anyone know anything about James Jones WR?
I didn't like their day too much. Harrell could be a solid player, but he seemed like a reach at that point in the draft and I don't think he fills much of a need for the Packers. Jackson fills a big need and could be a better pro than he was in college. James Jones could be considered a steal in a year or two...but he looks like a project. I like Rouse to be their strong safety at some point, but he also seems like he'll need a year or two to develop. I guess the Packers are content to build for the future, which is fine. I just don't see much here that will help them right away, except for Jackson I guess.
Worst Pittsburgh. I hate this draft and it makes me fear for the future with Tomlin.
 
I think Dallas played their cards best. Moved down a few spots and picked up another first rounder next year. Time will tell with regard to most picks, but moving down a bit to lock up future first rounders is gold. That's never a mistake.

 
EBF said:
The Titans are quickly becoming a complete joke. Adding Dwayne Bowe in round one would've given them a great target for Young for the next five years. Instead they draft a questionable defensive back (Andre Woolfolk anyone?) who looks like a pretty big reach. But that wasn't even the worst mistake. Taking Chris Henry in round two looks like a disaster. He might not ever start a game for them (or anyone). This team isn't nearly good enough to be blowing 2nd round picks on 5th round players. If that weren't enough, they used their third round pick on inconsistent and immature WR Paul Williams. He actually has some talent, but I doubt he'll ever amount to anything more than a distraction. I give this draft an F-. A stunning display of complete and utter ineptitude.
As a Titans fan, I feel this is a :coffee: . :coffee: :coffee: :yawn: :hey: :X :wipingmouthaftervomiting:
 
Maybe some homerism here, but I liked the Colts draft. My only gripe is that they could have selected Branch or Poszlusny @1.32, but Gonzalez is a nice pick to help the offense.

Gonzalez will replace Stokley in the offense. Manning has sorely missed having the slot WR for much of the last 2 years. He is an ideal fit there.

Moving a 4th this year and our 1st next year for Ugoh seems like too much, but I like this pick. Ugoh was rated as a 1st round talent by many so that makes this a fair deal in my eyes.

CB Hughes was also a nice selection. Fills a need and comes from major competition.

DT Quinn Pitcock from OSU will hopefully provide depth on the line.

Grade B overall with Polian's best rounds to come.

 
EBF said:
The Titans are quickly becoming a complete joke. Adding Dwayne Bowe in round one would've given them a great target for Young for the next five years. Instead they draft a questionable defensive back (Andre Woolfolk anyone?) who looks like a pretty big reach.

But that wasn't even the worst mistake. Taking Chris Henry in round two looks like a disaster. He might not ever start a game for them (or anyone). This team isn't nearly good enough to be blowing 2nd round picks on 5th round players.

If that weren't enough, they used their third round pick on inconsistent and immature WR Paul Williams. He actually has some talent, but I doubt he'll ever amount to anything more than a distraction.

I give this draft an F-. A stunning display of complete and utter ineptitude.
:coffee: As a guy who just overpaid for Vince Young, I was shell-shocked that I did not hear Bowe or Meachems name with that first round pick. And then in the second round I thought Steve Smith may be the pick...but no...christine henry? WTF? At least take Brandon Jackson if you want to go RB.

Jeff Fisher even realized his errors after the first three rounds:Quote

 
Maybe some homerism here, but I liked the Colts draft. My only gripe is that they could have selected Branch or Poszlusny @1.32, but Gonzalez is a nice pick to help the offense.Gonzalez will replace Stokley in the offense. Manning has sorely missed having the slot WR for much of the last 2 years. He is an ideal fit there.Moving a 4th this year and our 1st next year for Ugoh seems like too much, but I like this pick. Ugoh was rated as a 1st round talent by many so that makes this a fair deal in my eyes.CB Hughes was also a nice selection. Fills a need and comes from major competition.DT Quinn Pitcock from OSU will hopefully provide depth on the line.Grade B overall with Polian's best rounds to come.
Yea, good thing they didn't listen to you and fire Dungy and Polian, huh? :coffee:
 
Maybe some homerism here, but I liked the Colts draft. My only gripe is that they could have selected Branch or Poszlusny @1.32, but Gonzalez is a nice pick to help the offense.Gonzalez will replace Stokley in the offense. Manning has sorely missed having the slot WR for much of the last 2 years. He is an ideal fit there.Moving a 4th this year and our 1st next year for Ugoh seems like too much, but I like this pick. Ugoh was rated as a 1st round talent by many so that makes this a fair deal in my eyes.CB Hughes was also a nice selection. Fills a need and comes from major competition.DT Quinn Pitcock from OSU will hopefully provide depth on the line.Grade B overall with Polian's best rounds to come.
Yea, good thing they didn't listen to you and fire Dungy and Polian, huh? :confused:
You're still hanging on to that? If it makes you feel better, you do so. I called for Dungy to go. I still think the Colts could have won a championship before last season with a different head coach.If you want to be a richard and bring up a discussion from 6 mos. ago every time I post, I hope it makes you feel better about yourself. How about you change your avatar to an actual winner? Or do you just have a man-crush on Dopey?
 
Bri said:
Pats didn't have many picks so when you compare players gained **in the draft** by each team, they've gotta be real low.Next year they should get a favorable rating though
Always tough to grade out the Patriots...there drafts are never considered sexy, but they are usually effective.Mike Reiss at Boston.com broke down these trades.
So instead of drafting a player with a second-round grade in the first round, the Patriots traded the pick into next year with the 49ers, figuring they'll have a better shot at a first-round quality of player in 2008.And instead of drafting a player with a fourth- or fifth-round grade in the third round, the Patriots traded the pick into next year with the Raiders, figuring they'll have a better shot at a third-round quality of player in 2008.That sums up the team's activity, because the trades didn't add great value to this year's draft -- a fourth-round pick from the 49ers and a seventh-rounder from the Raiders.
I am sure the Pats will fall middle of the pack in grading. I like the Jets draft, since they got all the players I thought the Patriots would get! :confused:
 
LHUCKS said:
Here are my top 51. Bills - Liked all three picks2. Cardinals - Brown will fill in admirably at teams greatest need, and Branch could be the SOD3. Cowboys - Any time you can acquire a Cleveland first rounder for a minor trade down you've got to be happy4. Panthers - Jarrett and Kalil were steals5. 49ers - Big Willlis fan and Staley and Hill picks weren't too shabby
I actually agree with the teams, but I'd put SF at #1. I'm a fan of Staley.I might put Cleveland ahead of Carolina, but they did pay a lot to move up and that has to be considered. I just love what they did.
 
Jason Wood said:
Honorable Mention: Washington Redskins -- I'm a fan of Laron Landry, and he fills a need. But the Redskins keep acting as though signing veteran FAs is the key to winning. Have they looked at their win-loss record under Snyder? Joe Gibbs looks like Richie Petitbon since his return and one player, even if he's a good one, isn't enough for a team that is staring up at the rest of its division.
You're right, but this has nothing to do with the day one draft.
 
I thought Jacksonvile had a decent day 1.

Round 1- They picked up a solid saftey prospect in the first with Reggie Nelson. But I have a hard time understanding how they turned down the deal Dallas got for Brady Quinn. Some reports suggest that the Browns only offered the Jags a 2nd and 3rd for the pick but when the Jags refused felt they had to up the ante with Dallas being their last resort. I'm guessing the Jags thought Dallas would take Nelson and wanted to lockdown their safety, but if they where so in love with Nelson why trade down the first time? They did also get a 3rd and 6th for the first tradedown, so overall Reggie Nelson, a 3rd and a 6th isn't bad for round 1.

Round 2- The Jags under Shack-n-Jack have had amazing success in the second round. Justin Durant seems to be a player that fits the Jags defensive system but I'd be lying if I acted like I knew much about him beyond the measurables and scouting reports. He's a 3 time MEAC defensive player of the year and hopefully he can follow Rashean Mathis as another second round steal from a small black college.

Round 3- Mike Walker is an upside guy that likely slid a lot due to injury. He's a big, strong, sub-4.4 wide out that showed decent/good hands in college and produced good numbers last season inspite being less than a year removed from an ACL injury.

-The Jags also picked up 4 day 2 draft picks through their trading on day 1 giving them a total of 10 day 2 picks including the second pick of round 4.

Overall I'd say a good days work, but certainly as of yet not a contender for top 5 drafts.

 
I think Oakland has had a solid draft so far. We got the potential franchise Quarterback in Russell at 1.01. We traded down a few slots in the 2nd, picking up an extra 4th and drafting Zach Miller, TE, Arizona State with the 38th overall. A good blocker with great hands who'll be our young signal caller's safety blanket. I do question passing on Blalock.

At the top of the third round we drafted Quentin Moses, DE, Georgia, who was considered a top 10 pick at the start of the season. He's a pure pass rusher and will compliment Burgess well. If he regains his form he could be a steal.

I don't know much about Mario Henderson, the OT we took with the 28th pick of the 3rd round. He's a much needed addition to the offensive line, but we gave up a 3rd rd pick in 2008 and a 7th rd pick in 2007 to the patriots in order to get him, so the coaching staff must think highly of him.

We traded the 4th round pick we got from AZ to Detroit in exchange for QB Josh McCown and WR Mike Williams. I like this move a lot, since it essentially didn't cost us anything (other than their salaries) and we get a veteran QB who can start until Russell is ready. Mike Williams played under Kiffin at USC, so if he can't put it back together under Kiffin I'm sure he'll be out of the league soon enough.

With newly acquired Mike Williams on the roster along with Randy Moss, Jerry Porter, Ronald Curry, Doug Gabriel, Johnnie Morant, Alvis Whitted, Carlos Francis and Will Buchanon, the team still thought it was necessary to draft yet another WR with the last pick of the 3rd round (compensatory pick) in UTEP's Johnnie Lee Higgins. Very strange move if you ask me.

 
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It is so funny to see people rate drafts when we have no freaking clue how good these players are going to be in the NFL.

I have always thought this is the stupidest thing people do in football analysis.

 
I think Oakland has had a solid draft so far. We got the potential franchise Quarterback in Russell at 1.01. We traded down a few slots in the 2nd, picking up an extra 4th and drafting Zach Miller, TE, Arizona State with the 38th overall. A good blocker with great hands who'll be our young signal caller's safety blanket. I do question passing on Blalock.At the top of the third round we drafted Quentin Moses, DE, Georgia, who was considered a top 10 pick at the start of the season. He's a pure pass rusher and will compliment Burgess well. If he regains his form he could be a steal.I don't know much about Mario Henderson, the OT we took with the 28th pick of the 3rd round. He's a much needed addition to the offensive line, but we gave up a 3rd rd pick in 2008 and a 7th rd pick in 2007 to the patriots in order to get him, so the coaching staff must think highly of him.We traded the 4th round pick we got from AZ to Detroit in exchange for QB Josh McCown and WR Mike Williams. I like this move a lot, since it essentially didn't cost us anything (other than their salaries) and we get a veteran QB who can start until Russell is ready. Mike Williams played under Kiffin at USC, so if he can't put it back together under Kiffin I'm sure he'll be out of the league soon enough.With newly acquired Mike Williams on the roster along with Randy Moss, Jerry Porter, Ronald Curry, Doug Gabriel, Johnnie Morant, Alvis Whitted, Carlos Francis and Will Buchanon, the team still thought it was necessary to draft yet another WR with the last pick of the 3rd round (compensatory pick) in UTEP's Johnnie Lee Higgins. Very strange move if you ask me.
Unless the rumors of moving Moss and/or Porter are true.
 
It is so funny to see people rate drafts when we have no freaking clue how good these players are going to be in the NFL.I have always thought this is the stupidest thing people do in football analysis.
To be fair, most people on this board are aware of the inaccuracies rampant in this kind of "analysis." All we have to do is look at how many high round picks bust out to know what an inexact science the draft is. NFL teams spend thousands of man hours and millions of dollars to perfect the grading process, and yet it's still very much a crap shoot for them. So OF COURSE we are going to be more wrong than right in aggregate.BUT, if you're reading this thread on this forum it stands to reason you find the whole draft process entertaining, right? In which case it seems silly and pointless to disparage people assigning grades post draft. If doing so is foolhardy, then it's equally foolhardy to rank players before the draft and project where they go via mocks. All equally inexact.
 
Looking at the Pats and their moves I wonder what the cost/benefit analysis would be on getting more later round picks as opposed to taking a higher rounder. Because first rounders are so highly paid, and because of the failure rate in the NFL, would you be better with two third rounders, than one first? You pay less, and you get two bites at the apple. Granted, the talent level may be less, but it's hard to argue with the Pats success with blue collar players.

 
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It is so funny to see people rate drafts when we have no freaking clue how good these players are going to be in the NFL.I have always thought this is the stupidest thing people do in football analysis.
To be fair, most people on this board are aware of the inaccuracies rampant in this kind of "analysis." All we have to do is look at how many high round picks bust out to know what an inexact science the draft is. NFL teams spend thousands of man hours and millions of dollars to perfect the grading process, and yet it's still very much a crap shoot for them. So OF COURSE we are going to be more wrong than right in aggregate.BUT, if you're reading this thread on this forum it stands to reason you find the whole draft process entertaining, right? In which case it seems silly and pointless to disparage people assigning grades post draft. If doing so is foolhardy, then it's equally foolhardy to rank players before the draft and project where they go via mocks. All equally inexact.
"Who is more foolish? The fool, or the one who follows him?"
 
I think Oakland has had a solid draft so far. We got the potential franchise Quarterback in Russell at 1.01. We traded down a few slots in the 2nd, picking up an extra 4th and drafting Zach Miller, TE, Arizona State with the 38th overall. A good blocker with great hands who'll be our young signal caller's safety blanket. I do question passing on Blalock.At the top of the third round we drafted Quentin Moses, DE, Georgia, who was considered a top 10 pick at the start of the season. He's a pure pass rusher and will compliment Burgess well. If he regains his form he could be a steal.I don't know much about Mario Henderson, the OT we took with the 28th pick of the 3rd round. He's a much needed addition to the offensive line, but we gave up a 3rd rd pick in 2008 and a 7th rd pick in 2007 to the patriots in order to get him, so the coaching staff must think highly of him.We traded the 4th round pick we got from AZ to Detroit in exchange for QB Josh McCown and WR Mike Williams. I like this move a lot, since it essentially didn't cost us anything (other than their salaries) and we get a veteran QB who can start until Russell is ready. Mike Williams played under Kiffin at USC, so if he can't put it back together under Kiffin I'm sure he'll be out of the league soon enough.With newly acquired Mike Williams on the roster along with Randy Moss, Jerry Porter, Ronald Curry, Doug Gabriel, Johnnie Morant, Alvis Whitted, Carlos Francis and Will Buchanon, the team still thought it was necessary to draft yet another WR with the last pick of the 3rd round (compensatory pick) in UTEP's Johnnie Lee Higgins. Very strange move if you ask me.
Unless the rumors of moving Moss and/or Porter are true.
Porter's not going anywhere, Moss very likely will be gone. There's still plenty of depth at the position without Moss.
 
The Titans draft was putrid. The only hope is if Griffin can complement Hope and Williams actually amounts to anything.

So far it is looking bleak

 

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