Great post. I have watched every Bills game this year and I bought Spiller after week 1. What is amazing - when you watch the Bills play it is very hard to tell the difference between Fred Jackson and CJ Spiller when they line up. Both have numbers that start with a 2 and physically they look virtually identical as they lineup in the back field. But as soon as the play starts - it is so obvious which one is Spiller and which one is Jackson. Spiller is the one that looks like he is 2x faster than anyone on the field. Jackson is the one that looks like he has cement in his shoes. That is the difference. My only fear about Spiller is that he has the most crazy cuts and moves - I am terrified he is going to break something.
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jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Are we sure this isn't a case of the league figuring Vick out? He struggles going through his progressions and he has a bad feel for pocket pressure.
Banger
Footballguy
I would look to buy Matthews in dynasty....the talent is there and I think there's a good chance they fire Norv which would likely bode well for him.
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
Norv has been pretty darn good for RBs over his career. Off the top of my head, Emmitt Smith, LaDanian, Ricky Williams, Frank Gore, Stephen Davis (?) all had stellar seasons with Norv calling the shots. Matthews may rebound next year, but I dont see how Norv being fired will be the reason to suspect that.
Been saying the same thing for a few weeks now. No bonafide high end uber-studs, but plenty of depth. The back half of the first round of rookie drafts will be just as strong as last year, maybe stronger. Front end not so much.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
I agree with SSOG: the vacant top end talent is going to push the second tier talent to the top of the draft. So there are plenty of guys that look strong in the 6-12 area in a typical draft, but they'll be going 3-9.
Banger
Footballguy
The game play is ridiculous...starting Jackie Battle, benching him for fumbling? Look at Rivers, he's been horrendous...is he publicly flogging him? Those guys are all terrific RBs and it's hard to screw them up...I could coach them. I just think he's really mismanaged Matthews terribly.
r0llin_game
Footballguy
TRich just went for Morris/DBowe/Late 1st/2nd in one on my leagues. Blehhh
BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
As a TRich owner I am not taking that deal, although I acquired TRich for Greene and Maclin after Week 1 I am trying to buy Josh Gordon right now ..also really like Broyles who I have stashed as well as I hope Vincent Brown comes back when healthy as he looked really good in preseason.
doubletrouble
Footballguy
Rather have Morris/DBowe/Late 1st/2nd than Greene and Maclin all day long...'BearsFan4Life said:
Below are some dynasty buys that I feel may be available in trade:
Tannehill, Vick, Mallett
Spiller, Wilson, Morris, Ridley, Ballard, DRichardson, Hunter, Lamar, Ryan Williams, Bryce Brown
Britt, Garcon, Antonio Brown, Broyles, Gordon, Hill, Jeffrey, VBrown, Randle, Gettis, Brazil
Gresham, Rudolph, Allen
The window may close very soon for Spiller and Britt and mancrushes may make Spiller and Wilson already unavailable (I'm guilty of this one).
Tannehill, Vick, Mallett
Spiller, Wilson, Morris, Ridley, Ballard, DRichardson, Hunter, Lamar, Ryan Williams, Bryce Brown
Britt, Garcon, Antonio Brown, Broyles, Gordon, Hill, Jeffrey, VBrown, Randle, Gettis, Brazil
Gresham, Rudolph, Allen
The window may close very soon for Spiller and Britt and mancrushes may make Spiller and Wilson already unavailable (I'm guilty of this one).
BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
Agree with that ... but I was happy to acquire TRich for Greene and Maclin
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
It has to make you wonder if Matthews isn't the "terrific" running back that those guys are. Remember, when Matthews came out his value was high as much because he was going to Norv Turner as it was because of his talent. Prior to Matthews, everyone wanted their fantasy RBs to play for Norv because he was Mr. Workhorse Running Back Guy.
JFS171
Footballguy
Charles now also being threatened to be benched by his coach should he fumble again...
Crennel gets fired this offseason, as does Pioli. I don't see how the new GM doesn't invest that top pick in a new QB, which certainly can't HURT Charles.
And the guy's still a gamebreaker... just give him the ball.
Crennel gets fired this offseason, as does Pioli. I don't see how the new GM doesn't invest that top pick in a new QB, which certainly can't HURT Charles.
And the guy's still a gamebreaker... just give him the ball.
az_prof
Footballguy
How about the 2013 and 2014 draft classes for TEs? I know TEs are not usually top 5 kind of players, so you guys may not be factoring them in when you compare the draft classes. But for those of us in TE heavy/valuable leagues, which TEs really stand out in these two classes and which draft class is better?
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Jordan Reed is going to be a very good NFL TE, and a better fantasy TE. SLIGHTLY less athletic than Hernandez, but taller/longer, with a bigger frame, and better hands.
Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
anybody that gives up TRich for Greene and Maclin is a stone-cold fool
Concept Coop
Footballguy
I'd be looking to buy Alfred Morris, especially in standard formats. The last two weeks are the exception, and the prior 7 are the norm. The guys is on pace for 1,409 yards AFTER two weeks in which he only got 13 carries. That will change. They don't play another run D as good as the Steelers the rest of the way. If he played for nearly anyone else, his value would be much higher. But the Shannies love him and he'll be starting next year. There is no incentive to upgrade. Also, his talent is legit.
Get him now before his awesome playoff schedule increases his value.
Get him now before his awesome playoff schedule increases his value.
Dawg Pound 69
Footballguy
Austin Seferian-Jenkins from Washington is a sophomore so could be in the 2014 draft class. Like him more than Eifert (Notre Dame) who is the best in the 2013 class.'az_prof said:
Concept Coop
Footballguy
He's the best TE prospect in a long while. Since Davis or Winslow, in terms of a prospect. Obviously, Winslow didn't live up to that.I saw him going top 6 in a mock draft a little bit ago. The kid can play.
XFLcommish
Footballguy
I'm curious about Sanders also. He's a FA right now and I am thinking about picking him up for depth next season.
EBF
Footballguy
He's good, but not THAT good. ASJ is more of a soft body than a workout freak like Davis or Winslow. He is not on the same plane athletically. He might be listed as a top 10 pick in mock drafts on the internet 18 months before he'll be drafted, but he won't go that high when the time comes.Lots of good TEs in the Pac-12. Zach Ertz is going to be an interesting prospect in this draft. USC has three guys who like future pro players. Xavier Grimble and Jalen Cope-Fitzpatrick look like good in-line TEs. Randall Telfer will likely be drafted as a TE/WR hybrid, though I don't like his game as much.
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
You actually think Shanahan will be coaching next year? What happens when he's fired and someone new comes in? Morris is a backup at best.'Concept Coop said:
loose circuits
Footballguy
No love for Joseph Fauria?
EBF
Footballguy
Max Power
Footballguy
I traded Vick for Donald Brown (before his latest injury) and a 3rd. Not sure if you call that selling low, but I think he is done as a QB1 in FF. He has lost half a step and was never good at reading Defenses pre-snap. He will be a boom or bust QB2 for a couple more years. Its hard to argue that Foles isn't doing more with less on that same team.
sporthenry
Footballguy
David Wilson if you can still call it low. Ship has probably sailed on this one.
Ingram. I think the Saints will have to rely more on a ground and pound or he'll get to a team that will in a year or two.
I'd probably buy any of the 2012 draft class positional players. Floyd, Wright, Blackmon, Wilson, Pead, Alshon Jeffery, Hillman, Pierce. Sure not all will hit, but people seem to jump ship on rookies a bit too early.
Ingram. I think the Saints will have to rely more on a ground and pound or he'll get to a team that will in a year or two.
I'd probably buy any of the 2012 draft class positional players. Floyd, Wright, Blackmon, Wilson, Pead, Alshon Jeffery, Hillman, Pierce. Sure not all will hit, but people seem to jump ship on rookies a bit too early.
zamboni
Footballguy
Desperation, but I'm thinking Ryan Williams.
Two straight early season-ending injuries, so durability is a huge question mark. But this year's at least was a shoulder not a knee. So he'll at least have had some more recovery time on the patella tendon.
The team is a disaster and Wells isn't doing much to hold onto the job. If they build the OL up, the running game should improve. With a presumably new coaching staff, who will be running the ball is a question mark. But given the investment in Wells and Williams, RB may not be that high of a priority.
Two straight early season-ending injuries, so durability is a huge question mark. But this year's at least was a shoulder not a knee. So he'll at least have had some more recovery time on the patella tendon.
The team is a disaster and Wells isn't doing much to hold onto the job. If they build the OL up, the running game should improve. With a presumably new coaching staff, who will be running the ball is a question mark. But given the investment in Wells and Williams, RB may not be that high of a priority.
Max Power
Footballguy
I didn't own him in any of my leagues, but just traded Moreno for him to a team in the hunt. I liked how he hit the holes, but Arizona never had a run game for the guy. I still think Beanie is the better back, but williams is dirt cheap right now and worth the gamble.
beerbarron
Footballguy
If you can get him cheap or at a value you think is fair!?!?.. Remember two + years ago when the Pit WR3(back when wallace and ward were playing) position was being narrowed down to Brown v Sanders. Sanders looked like the guy to get but Sanders injuries and Browns production put ES on the bench.. It depends on where he goes and the roster size in your league but if you can get him cheap.. worth a lottery ticket..
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BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
Traded Lynch for McCoy ... I wasn't in the playoffs
Shutout
Footballguy
I like the idea of sanders going forward too.
Warhogs
Footballguy
What are people thinking on Knowshon Moreno now? He obviously needed a McGahee injury to see the field but has been very solid. Might he be back from the dead? I have no idea what Denver might be doing with McGahee, Moreno and the rest of the RB after the season but they may have a hard time turning away from Moreno.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Knowshon's fantasy numbers have been good based on volume, but his actual per touch production has been below average.Of course, if Mcgahee walks he could still have value based just on volume, but I doubt what he's done the last few weeks has Denver thinking they've found a gem and they no longer need Willis or a more long-term replacement to him (if Hillman isn't it already).
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
He's due $1.7m next year, which is reasonable for a #2 RB. McGahee is due $2.5m which is pretty reasonable as well. They can stand pat if they want.Moreno is due $5m in 2014. If he starts all next year and does well he could restructure that into a 3 yr $13m sort of deal. I think that's pretty unlikely though.Hillman is still a threat for at least a 3rd down/Woodhead sort of role, if not more.IMO, they bring everybody back, but Moreno gets more of a chance to win the job from McGahee.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Since Starting, Moreno is averaging 4.15 YPC. Willis was at 4.4. I think the difference is reasonable, since the Broncos have actually been running the ball more with Moreno, than they did with Willis. Likely due to flow of the game, but, again, it is reasonable to suggest they performed equally well.
Kitrick Taylor
Footballguy
Moreno has been a huge late season addition for some fantasy owners out there, but I wouldn't read too much into it for a dynasty buy. In fact, I'd think he's an all out sell. He came in with fresh legs week 12. Three of his first 4 games have come against bottom of the barrel rush defenses. The one good rush defense he played was Tampa and he went 20/69 there. Add in the fact that defenses have to play to defend the pass first and foremost as well. I don't think enough can be said about coming in with fresh legs late in the season as well. I'd think Moreno's marginal speed plays pretty well right now. Most defenses have lost a number of their starters, and the guys that are playing are bumped, battered and bruised from the rigors of the first 3/4 of the season.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Fair points. But we must also point out, then, than 3 of his games have been lopsided, so teams aren't looking to stop the pass and are selling out to stop the run, more than they normally would.
Warhogs
Footballguy
I would think that Moreno' dynasty value is still pretty low. I own him on one dynasty team and he has been a part of getting me to the superbowl next week. Since I own McGahee too and I think his value is low I am assuming he will be a hold for me.
I would guess that in my 12 team leagues if he finishes strong his trade value would still be most likely be in the beginning of round 2? Does anyone think I am off base on that?
I would guess that in my 12 team leagues if he finishes strong his trade value would still be most likely be in the beginning of round 2? Does anyone think I am off base on that?
Kitrick Taylor
Footballguy
I watched a lot of the Bronco/Raider game. Let's just say there aren't many teams that quit as easily as the Raiders. Baltimore and KC are rated #27 and #28 vs the run. So even if they do put another guy in the box late in the game, does it really matter that much??I guess I'm just very hesitant to believe Moreno is going to have a career turnaround like a number of other RBs.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
I don't blame you and his stats do need context. We all need to make some kind of stand on his talent, really. I'd feel comfortable trading for him as a moderate-level dart to toss and see what sticks. He's looked solid and has been targeted a good deal out of the backfield; I remember reading good things about that part of his game before the season started too.
For teams that are pretty solid without a bunch of holes, I generally look to make a few low-risk/high-reward type of moves -- trading off my late 2nd rounder or a decent player at a position of strength in my lineup for a few of these guys.
Some guys I have targeted:
Mendenhall- I love having guys like him on my roster, especially since I generally play in 2-RB 3-WR 1-FLEX PPRs that end up utilizing your deeper bench into the lineup. He has a much higher chance of gaining/retaining a full-time job than a lot of younger guys that come and go (Vereen, Powell, Hunter, etc). He's a guy you bring in as depth, and I'm fairly confident this 25-year old will find my lineup several times in the next few years.
Wells- I already have him in this league, but I'd be after him if I didn't. He's 24 and has a 1000 yard/10 TD season under his belt. He can likely be had for little, and won't cost anything from your starting lineup.
Gore or Jackson- both have been touted to be on their last legs for quite a while -- if I can get either of these guys for my 2nd then I'm all over it. Will likely depend on how strong a team their owners have, as guys in contention might want to use them til they retire.
MJD- like the two above him, though I'd be willing to give up more for him.
Sproles- I traded him away at a high point in the offseason, but would love to get him back as a RB2/flex-play at a lower cost, despite his age and likelihood of decline.
Some guys I have targeted:
Mendenhall- I love having guys like him on my roster, especially since I generally play in 2-RB 3-WR 1-FLEX PPRs that end up utilizing your deeper bench into the lineup. He has a much higher chance of gaining/retaining a full-time job than a lot of younger guys that come and go (Vereen, Powell, Hunter, etc). He's a guy you bring in as depth, and I'm fairly confident this 25-year old will find my lineup several times in the next few years.
Wells- I already have him in this league, but I'd be after him if I didn't. He's 24 and has a 1000 yard/10 TD season under his belt. He can likely be had for little, and won't cost anything from your starting lineup.
Gore or Jackson- both have been touted to be on their last legs for quite a while -- if I can get either of these guys for my 2nd then I'm all over it. Will likely depend on how strong a team their owners have, as guys in contention might want to use them til they retire.
MJD- like the two above him, though I'd be willing to give up more for him.
Sproles- I traded him away at a high point in the offseason, but would love to get him back as a RB2/flex-play at a lower cost, despite his age and likelihood of decline.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
I'll be buying too. He's the cheapest dynasty asset likely to provide 1+ years of 3 down, goal line, 3rd down, pass-catching, workhorse production. And the Jax situation has improved a bit too.
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cstu
Footballguy
I would trade for him before Beanie gets cut. Maybe some owner isn't following the situation. Williams is a wild card, but if he's fully recovered from injuries and the Cardinals improve their OL I think he has high potential.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
My Top 2 Dynasty buys
Dwayne Allen: Low price & great upside IMO with very good young QB.
Mark Ingram: Much more confident player over the 2nd half. (4.3 YPC last 9 games) He'd be my pick to be the next underachieving 1st round RB to burst into fantasy relevance (ala Lynch/Moreno)
Dwayne Allen: Low price & great upside IMO with very good young QB.
Mark Ingram: Much more confident player over the 2nd half. (4.3 YPC last 9 games) He'd be my pick to be the next underachieving 1st round RB to burst into fantasy relevance (ala Lynch/Moreno)
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