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For offense, I'll have to go with Holmgren in Seattle
For defense, Angelo(CHI) has shown to be a genius of sorts
For defense, Angelo(CHI) has shown to be a genius of sorts
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Here's a list of the "long-term" contracts that are now in place.Jammer, Quentin signed through - 2012Kaeding, Nate signed through - 2012Tomlinson, LaDainian RB signed through - 2011Antonio Cromartie – signed through 2011Gates, Antonio TE signed through - 2011Marlon McCree S signed through - 2011Rivers, Philip QB signed through - 2011Hardwick, Nick C signed through - 2011Olivea, Shane G-T signed through - 2011Cesaire, Jacques DT signed through - 2011Scifres, Mike P signed through - 2011Merriman, Shawne signed through - 2010Castillo, Luis signed through - 2010Williams, Jamal DT signed through - 2010Olshansky, Igor DT signed through - 2010Pinnock, Andrew FB-RB signed through - 2010Cooper, Stephen LB signed through - 2010Jackson, Vincent signed through - 2010Parker, Eric WR signed through - 2010Osgood, Kassim WR signed through - 2010Tim Dobbins LB signed through - 2010Jeromey Clary OL signed through - 2010Chase Page DT signed through - 2010Charlie Whitehurst QB signed through - 2010Sproles, Darren signed through - 2009Foley, Steve signed through - 2009Goff, Mike G signed through - 2009Hart, Clinton FS - 2009Binn, David signed through - 2009AJ Smith down? He's had the reigns for 3 years now, and has turned a dismal roster into perhaps the most talented 52 in football. And all the core pieces are locked up for years.
excellentozzie newsome in balt hasn't done too bad of a job drafting DEF players.
Wow, that's looking like a dynasty. They are a top 5 team this year, and that's a lot of young talent that'll be there for 4-5 years assuming they don't get in cap hell.Here's a list of the "long-term" contracts that are now in place.Jammer, Quentin signed through - 2012Kaeding, Nate signed through - 2012Tomlinson, LaDainian RB signed through - 2011Antonio Cromartie – signed through 2011Gates, Antonio TE signed through - 2011Marlon McCree S signed through - 2011Rivers, Philip QB signed through - 2011Hardwick, Nick C signed through - 2011Olivea, Shane G-T signed through - 2011Cesaire, Jacques DT signed through - 2011Scifres, Mike P signed through - 2011Merriman, Shawne signed through - 2010Castillo, Luis signed through - 2010Williams, Jamal DT signed through - 2010Olshansky, Igor DT signed through - 2010Pinnock, Andrew FB-RB signed through - 2010Cooper, Stephen LB signed through - 2010Jackson, Vincent signed through - 2010Parker, Eric WR signed through - 2010Osgood, Kassim WR signed through - 2010Tim Dobbins LB signed through - 2010Jeromey Clary OL signed through - 2010Chase Page DT signed through - 2010Charlie Whitehurst QB signed through - 2010Sproles, Darren signed through - 2009Foley, Steve signed through - 2009Goff, Mike G signed through - 2009Hart, Clinton FS - 2009Binn, David signed through - 2009AJ Smith down? He's had the reigns for 3 years now, and has turned a dismal roster into perhaps the most talented 52 in football. And all the core pieces are locked up for years.
No cap hell in Diego. AJ decided to use the $10M he freed up by not signing Drew Brees to lock up his young starters long term. If Marty keeps the handcuffs off of Rivers, I think we're looking at an early 90s Cowboy-like run in San Diego. Health and Martyball are the only possible derailments, IMO.Rivers > Big Ben, and = to Eli.Wow, that's looking like a dynasty. They are a top 5 team this year, and that's a lot of young talent that'll be there for 4-5 years assuming they don't get in cap hell.Here's a list of the "long-term" contracts that are now in place.Jammer, Quentin signed through - 2012Kaeding, Nate signed through - 2012Tomlinson, LaDainian RB signed through - 2011Antonio Cromartie – signed through 2011Gates, Antonio TE signed through - 2011Marlon McCree S signed through - 2011Rivers, Philip QB signed through - 2011Hardwick, Nick C signed through - 2011Olivea, Shane G-T signed through - 2011Cesaire, Jacques DT signed through - 2011Scifres, Mike P signed through - 2011Merriman, Shawne signed through - 2010Castillo, Luis signed through - 2010Williams, Jamal DT signed through - 2010Olshansky, Igor DT signed through - 2010Pinnock, Andrew FB-RB signed through - 2010Cooper, Stephen LB signed through - 2010Jackson, Vincent signed through - 2010Parker, Eric WR signed through - 2010Osgood, Kassim WR signed through - 2010Tim Dobbins LB signed through - 2010Jeromey Clary OL signed through - 2010Chase Page DT signed through - 2010Charlie Whitehurst QB signed through - 2010Sproles, Darren signed through - 2009Foley, Steve signed through - 2009Goff, Mike G signed through - 2009Hart, Clinton FS - 2009Binn, David signed through - 2009AJ Smith down? He's had the reigns for 3 years now, and has turned a dismal roster into perhaps the most talented 52 in football. And all the core pieces are locked up for years.
I don't know exactly how it all went down, but Ted Thompson certainly deservers some of those accolades.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_ThompsonFor offense, I'll have to go with Holmgren in Seattle
They can rank him wherever they want to - I'll take the Ravens front office and throw the dice. Great owner with more money than God, and willing to spend it. Newsome, who knows what the hell he's doing. And DeCosta, who Bisciotti pays like a GM. I can count on one hand the players the Ravens let go who continued to be productive after their departure. On top of that, their scouting is pretty ok - they've made rich men out of undrafted FAs and over-the-hill guys alike.Newsome - BAL (note, he was ranked in the bottom 10 in a 2007 Forbes ranking of all sports GMs', not just football)
Read some of this. Did not enjoy it.A little surprised there hasn't been much discussion on this article from RW:
http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/46433/57/the-nfls-best-gms?pg=3
Jake Delhomme, Colt McCoy, Brandon Weeden, Greg Little, Montario Hardesty, Trent Richardson?For offense, I'll have to go with Holmgren in Seattle
Ozzie Newsome has been very good for years.excellentozzie newsome in balt hasn't done too bad of a job drafting DEF players.. especially since he'll have 3-4 potential HOF's taken in the late first round.
he started following the right people on twitter and drafted accordingly.I think some of these names are kind of interesting: where does Mike Brown (No. 7 GM) in CIN fall these days?
he used to be considered the worst or near it, now his teams are considered well built. What changed here? Is it Lewis' input or just that Brown had a change in philosophy in terms of bringing in talented but antisocial miscreants?
Colbert on the bottom?A little surprised there hasn't been much discussion on this article from RW:
http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/46433/57/the-nfls-best-gms?pg=3
Best/Top10:
Belichick - NE (Best)
Newsome - BAL (note, he was ranked in the bottom 5 in a 2007 Forbes ranking, albeit a poor one)
Thompson - GB
Schneider - SEA
Baalke - SF
Elway - DEN
Lewis & Brown - CIN (Mike Brown was also bottom 5 in 2007)
Loomis - NO
Reese - NYG
Dimitroff - ATL
Bottom 10:
Dorsey - KC
Snead - STL
Whaley - BUF
Colbert - PIT
Spielman - MIN
Mayhew - DET
Webster - TEN
Jerry Jones - DAL (formerly top 5)
Bruce Allen - WAS
McKenzie - Oak (worst)
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Wow - looking back, health (injuries to LT2 & Rivers in the playoffs, and the long term injury to Merriman) and Martyball both struck in '06 and beyond.No cap hell in Diego. AJ decided to use the $10M he freed up by not signing Drew Brees to lock up his young starters long term. If Marty keeps the handcuffs off of Rivers, I think we're looking at an early 90s Cowboy-like run in San Diego. Health and Martyball are the only possible derailments, IMO.Rivers > Big Ben, and = to Eli.Wow, that's looking like a dynasty. They are a top 5 team this year, and that's a lot of young talent that'll be there for 4-5 years assuming they don't get in cap hell.Here's a list of the "long-term" contracts that are now in place.Jammer, Quentin signed through - 2012Kaeding, Nate signed through - 2012Tomlinson, LaDainian RB signed through - 2011Antonio Cromartie – signed through 2011Gates, Antonio TE signed through - 2011Marlon McCree S signed through - 2011Rivers, Philip QB signed through - 2011Hardwick, Nick C signed through - 2011Olivea, Shane G-T signed through - 2011Cesaire, Jacques DT signed through - 2011Scifres, Mike P signed through - 2011Merriman, Shawne signed through - 2010Castillo, Luis signed through - 2010Williams, Jamal DT signed through - 2010Olshansky, Igor DT signed through - 2010Pinnock, Andrew FB-RB signed through - 2010Cooper, Stephen LB signed through - 2010Jackson, Vincent signed through - 2010Parker, Eric WR signed through - 2010Osgood, Kassim WR signed through - 2010Tim Dobbins LB signed through - 2010Jeromey Clary OL signed through - 2010Chase Page DT signed through - 2010Charlie Whitehurst QB signed through - 2010Sproles, Darren signed through - 2009Foley, Steve signed through - 2009Goff, Mike G signed through - 2009Hart, Clinton FS - 2009Binn, David signed through - 2009AJ Smith down? He's had the reigns for 3 years now, and has turned a dismal roster into perhaps the most talented 52 in football. And all the core pieces are locked up for years.
awful decision to hire a puppet head coach in Norv, and then AJ didn't have a good draft since the merriman one.Wow - looking back, health (injuries to LT2 & Rivers in the playoffs, and the long term injury to Merriman) and Martyball both struck in '06 and beyond.No cap hell in Diego. AJ decided to use the $10M he freed up by not signing Drew Brees to lock up his young starters long term. If Marty keeps the handcuffs off of Rivers, I think we're looking at an early 90s Cowboy-like run in San Diego. Health and Martyball are the only possible derailments, IMO.Rivers > Big Ben, and = to Eli.Wow, that's looking like a dynasty. They are a top 5 team this year, and that's a lot of young talent that'll be there for 4-5 years assuming they don't get in cap hell.Here's a list of the "long-term" contracts that are now in place.Jammer, Quentin signed through - 2012Kaeding, Nate signed through - 2012Tomlinson, LaDainian RB signed through - 2011Antonio Cromartie – signed through 2011Gates, Antonio TE signed through - 2011Marlon McCree S signed through - 2011Rivers, Philip QB signed through - 2011Hardwick, Nick C signed through - 2011Olivea, Shane G-T signed through - 2011Cesaire, Jacques DT signed through - 2011Scifres, Mike P signed through - 2011Merriman, Shawne signed through - 2010Castillo, Luis signed through - 2010Williams, Jamal DT signed through - 2010Olshansky, Igor DT signed through - 2010Pinnock, Andrew FB-RB signed through - 2010Cooper, Stephen LB signed through - 2010Jackson, Vincent signed through - 2010Parker, Eric WR signed through - 2010Osgood, Kassim WR signed through - 2010Tim Dobbins LB signed through - 2010Jeromey Clary OL signed through - 2010Chase Page DT signed through - 2010Charlie Whitehurst QB signed through - 2010Sproles, Darren signed through - 2009Foley, Steve signed through - 2009Goff, Mike G signed through - 2009Hart, Clinton FS - 2009Binn, David signed through - 2009AJ Smith down? He's had the reigns for 3 years now, and has turned a dismal roster into perhaps the most talented 52 in football. And all the core pieces are locked up for years.
DOH!
For an instant there I thought I just entered Bizzarro world and then realized the opening post was from 2006 LOL!!Jake Delhomme, Colt McCoy, Brandon Weeden, Greg Little, Montario Hardesty, Trent Richardson?For offense, I'll have to go with Holmgren in Seattle
I think he did well in that 2007 Forbes listing - he was No. 2.Sweet Love said:Funny...when this thread was started in 2006, I am surprised that Marty Hurney did not get any love.
2003 - Steve Smith
2003- Jordan Gross
2003 - Ricky Manning
2004- Travelle Wharton (best FA Tackle on the market now) - Not many picks this year
2005 - Thomas Davis
2005 - Evan Mathis
2005 - Geoff Hangartner
2005 - Joe Berger
2006 - DeAngelo Williams
2006 - Richard Marshall
2006 - James Anderson
2006 - Jeff King
2006 - Will Montgomery
(Almost his whole 2006 draft class is still in the league)
Misses - Eric Shelton (2nd), Atiyyah Ellison (4th), Stefan Lefors (4th), Keary Colbert (2nd), Bruce Nelson (2nd), Mike Seidman (3rd)
He also was instrumental in bringing in Delhomme, and in 2007 (the following year) drafted Jon Beason, Ryan Kalil, and Charles Johnson. Problem was he kept striking out on WRs (Dwayne Jarrett in the 2nd in 2007), did not contingency plan at QB and gave out contracts to "his guys" like candy...but sans WR, the guy had an eye for talent.