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We've had our league on ESPn the past 3 seasons, before that CBS and sandbox :yucky: ESPN was soso this year... becasue they went to the free format I think their servers were overwhelmed early on the site was not good... by the end of the year it was decent. PROS-Smack board on each game's scoreboard to talk trashCONSslow and overwhelmed server at timesI was also in a 2nd league on cbsthe scoring is instantaneous which is greatthere is a trade block which i likeno smackboardwhat is everyone's thoughts? what is the best league? How is myfantasyleague or other sites?

 
I love myfantasyleague, but your commish needs to be willing to put in some design work to make the site as fun as you'd like. They have nearly every function you could ever need and are constantly adding new features.

 
I love myfantasyleague, but your commish needs to be willing to put in some design work to make the site as fun as you'd like. They have nearly every function you could ever need and are constantly adding new features.
what he said - MFL :thumbup:
 
I have one league (non-commish) on MFL and another (commish) on rtsportsAnd have to say for user friendliness and less hassle as a commish, I prefer rtsports.com.But, that's just me.

 
I like MFL.You know, this subject comes up all the time. I think it deserves it's own forum. The info about all the sites would be easy to find, and we wouldn't have to state the same thing over and over.

 
I have never liked MFL. I have never been a commish in that league but I played in one for three years and never liked the set up. Just personal opinion I guess.I use Fanball Commish and I really like it but it had its problems this year too. Server crashes on game day....etc. I like it because the Commish has ultimate authority to correct any mistakes.

 
I have never liked MFL. I have never been a commish in that league but I played in one for three years and never liked the set up.
Honestly, blame your commish. Anyone with a few hours and minimal programming skill can design an MFL site that blows all other FF services away. Well I might be exaggerating a bit, but seriously you can do whatever you want on that thing.

 
I have never liked MFL. I have never been a commish in that league but I played in one for three years and never liked the set up.
Honestly, blame your commish. Anyone with a few hours and minimal programming skill can design an MFL site that blows all other FF services away. Well I might be exaggerating a bit, but seriously you can do whatever you want on that thing.
What he said. :yes: The support people/forum can help you do almost anything with the site if you try. See my sig for link. I kept it kinda simple because our commish is no web geek, but even he has fun messing around with it now.

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I have one league (non-commish) on MFL and another (commish) on rtsports

And have to say for user friendliness and less hassle as a commish, I prefer rtsports.com.

But, that's just me.
How do you know its less hassle for the commish if you dont commish at MFL? I cant imagine less hassle than what it takes running MFL.
 
I ran my own site for years and resisted going to an online service because I was afraid of losing the "complete customization" that only a personal web site could bring. Alas it became too time consuming so our league switched to MFL and we couldn't be happier. And the ability to customize your league to make it your own is simply amazing.

Here is our league link: http://football24.myfantasyleague.com/2005/home/66625

 
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MFL is good, I have a couple of leagues on it. My favorite, believe it or not, is CBS though. I know it gets ripped here and it's the most expensive, but I find it's easier on the eyes and I love the setup. To each his own. :shrug:

 
I ran my own site for years and resisted going to an online service because I was afraid of losing the "complete customization" that only a personal web site could bring. Alas it became too time consuming so our league switched to MFL and we couldn't be happier. And the ability to customize your league to make it your own is simply amazing.

Here is our league link: http://football24.myfantasyleague.com/2005/home/66625
I've said it in the MFL forums, and I'll say it again - habman has the best site on there :thumbup:
 
i've used all of these:allstarstatscbspsortslineyahooallstars live coring stunk before this past year. No problems there now.cbs is solid.never had a problem with yahoo either

 
The problem with asking the question of "what website is best" is that you will get a 1000 different responses here. I have used CBS for 5 years now and have had zero problems, and their live scoring(which is the most important feature of any website) is second to none.I dont like these threads, because they ALWAYS evolve into a pissing match. BUT, you wont be disappointed with CBS.Take that for what its worth

 
I ran my own site for years and resisted going to an online service because I was afraid of losing the "complete customization" that only a personal web site could bring. Alas it became too time consuming so our league switched to MFL and we couldn't be happier. And the ability to customize your league to make it your own is simply amazing.

Here is our league link: http://football24.myfantasyleague.com/2005/home/66625
I've said it in the MFL forums, and I'll say it again - habman has the best site on there :thumbup:
:goodposting: I just checked it out. SWEET
 
I see the cult of MFL has been posting. I personally strongly dislike MFL and the set up. Find it clunky and non-intuitive.

 
MFL is good, I have a couple of leagues on it. My favorite, believe it or not, is CBS though. I know it gets ripped here and it's the most expensive, but I find it's easier on the eyes and I love the setup. To each his own. :shrug:
I've been a longtime defender of CBS. Been on the site for 4 years now, haven't had a single problem, and the league sites just look fantastic. Never down on gameday, hell, I've never actually seen the site down...Great tools on the site...and *bad* advice, which makes you do your homework.

 
CBS is the way to go... Never had a problem. The only thing negative is that their CBS "guru" doesn't know squat about football. But I don't look at his advice anyway. The site is great, we use IDP, and the live scoring is second to none. It may cost a little more, but it is worth it, IMO.

 
I see the cult of MFL has been posting.  I personally strongly dislike MFL and the set up. Find it clunky and non-intuitive.
Find a real commish.
however you "tweak" the appearance does nothing to the draft enginge, the FA system, and the other ways they do things that I strongly dislike.
 
I ran my own site for years and resisted going to an online service because I was afraid of losing the "complete customization" that only a personal web site could bring. Alas it became too time consuming so our league switched to MFL and we couldn't be happier. And the ability to customize your league to make it your own is simply amazing.

Here is our league link: http://football24.myfantasyleague.com/2005/home/66625
That is one outstanding site! :thumbup:
 
play in 2 dynasty leagues that used CBS(i commish these 2)play in 2 other dynasty leagues that used MFLboth are good. I like CBS the best

 
I'm kind of doing a :confused: at people saying the only negatives of CBS are things like that they give bad advice. I'm not as familiar with them as others, but I know there's a lot more to be said on them than that. Here's my best attempt at impartiality.* CBS probably has some of the nicest canned graphics and appearance available. While you can do pretty much the same on other sites, it may be easier to do on CBS. They have niftier stuff you can just select and it works. I don't know that they have any better or worse live scoring than anyone else. It seems a constant that the first week of the season most FF sites have to redistribute leagues to balance server loads, but any competent site seems to get it right quickly and I don't recall any particular #####ing about that in regards to any site after the first week.The biggest disadvantage of CBS is that it costs $150 a league while other premium sites cost from $60-$80 a league. To me that has always been the dealbreaker since I didn't think the graphics were worth more than twice the price, and I felt they were also worse in other areas, which leads me to what I'd say is their second biggest disadvantage. Customer support. If you're going to make a vanilla, cookie-cutter league (to mix metaphors), maybe that won't be an issue. But the impression that one gets on here is that they don't have very responsive or personalized support, you're more likely to get a FAQ email that may have nothing to do with your issue, than get someone to address it right away. My friends on ESPN said the same thing about support.I also don't think CBS has as much functionality/flexibility as other sites. They can support a lot of league types, but I'm not sure that they have as many options as the other sites out there. I think they put more of their emphasis into being part of CBS and having access to CBS content, while other sites try to win clients by being feature rich. * MFL's biggest advantages would include flexibility, as I think they probably have more functionality than CBS. They also partner with other sites so that you have the option of going out and using FF industry best software if MFL doesn't own it, but be able to transfer the results into MFL easily. Fantasyauctioneer.com auctioneer is a good example of that... they have what many consider to be some of the best auction tools out there, and you can do auctions there and have them transferred into MFL without having to do any work. Customer support is another of their plusses. I've never had it take more than a few hours to get a response via email and it's always been an actual typed up mail that addressed my issue. But I don't even use email for support anymore as they have staff monitoring the support forum and you normally get an answer within an hour. If you're any kind of web designer really the sky is the limit on what you can do. And even if you're not, it isn't hard to come up with some that looks good. They've also put more effort into appearance of late with some prepackaged skins that look pretty good that you can just select and it sets everything up for you. And if there is some glitzy graphics thing on another site that you just have to have, there are sites where people will custom code such a thing up for you for a small fee. Some of the developers of mfladdons.com are in the Shark Pool here I know. Now if you do feel the need to go out and supplement things with code you pay someone else for, it is going to offset the fact you can get a league for less than half the cost of a CBS. But I've never felt a need to pay for such things (and there is some pretty cool stuff available as freeware even), and even if I did I think we'd still come out ahead.I'll also give a kudos to MFL for how responsive they are to requests for new functionality. I think I've probably requested about 15 things, some minor like giving more lines in the news summary, to major ones like modifying how they do acceptance of trades and blind bidding. They've probably done 10 of them (and I expect another 2-3 will be done this next offseason as I just put them in the middle of this year).With the extra flexibility comes the biggest detriment of MFL. If you want a shrink wrap website it's not going to look as great, and the extra functionality they have will of course take a little more set up if you want to use it.* RTS and others I don't think I've had enough experience on them to be able to fairly say very much. I have a generally good impression of RTS from what I hear about it, and it also seems to fall into the costs-half-as-much-as-CBS, but I couldn't make a feature-by-feature comparison for example... whereas I at least had used CBS recently enough to have an idea what's out there for them. Yahoo I don't think is worth mentioning in comparison. It is MUCH MUCH MUCH less than the premium sites in terms of what you can do. You don't come anywhere near what is base functionality on other sites unless you buy something like Stat Tracker. And even with that, it's less than what you get on other sites, and the cost of a league of 12 buying Stat Tracker is more than the cost of just having got the league on a site like MFL or RTS in the first place.

 
I'm kind of doing a :confused: at people saying the only negatives of CBS are things like that they give bad advice. I'm not as familiar with them as others, but I know there's a lot more to be said on them than that. Here's my best attempt at impartiality.

* CBS probably has some of the nicest canned graphics and appearance available. While you can do pretty much the same on other sites, it may be easier to do on CBS. They have niftier stuff you can just select and it works. I don't know that they have any better or worse live scoring than anyone else. It seems a constant that the first week of the season most FF sites have to redistribute leagues to balance server loads, but any competent site seems to get it right quickly and I don't recall any particular #####ing about that in regards to any site after the first week.

The biggest disadvantage of CBS is that it costs $150 a league while other premium sites cost from $60-$80 a league. To me that has always been the dealbreaker since I didn't think the graphics were worth more than twice the price, and I felt they were also worse in other areas, which leads me to what I'd say is their second biggest disadvantage. Customer support. If you're going to make a vanilla, cookie-cutter league (to mix metaphors), maybe that won't be an issue. But the impression that one gets on here is that they don't have very responsive or personalized support, you're more likely to get a FAQ email that may have nothing to do with your issue, than get someone to address it right away. My friends on ESPN said the same thing about support.

I also don't think CBS has as much functionality/flexibility as other sites. They can support a lot of league types, but I'm not sure that they have as many options as the other sites out there. I think they put more of their emphasis into being part of CBS and having access to CBS content, while other sites try to win clients by being feature rich.

* MFL's biggest advantages would include flexibility, as I think they probably have more functionality than CBS. They also partner with other sites so that you have the option of going out and using FF industry best software if MFL doesn't own it, but be able to transfer the results into MFL easily. Fantasyauctioneer.com auctioneer is a good example of that... they have what many consider to be some of the best auction tools out there, and you can do auctions there and have them transferred into MFL without having to do any work.

Customer support is another of their plusses. I've never had it take more than a few hours to get a response via email and it's always been an actual typed up mail that addressed my issue. But I don't even use email for support anymore as they have staff monitoring the support forum and you normally get an answer within an hour.

If you're any kind of web designer really the sky is the limit on what you can do. And even if you're not, it isn't hard to come up with some that looks good. They've also put more effort into appearance of late with some prepackaged skins that look pretty good that you can just select and it sets everything up for you. And if there is some glitzy graphics thing on another site that you just have to have, there are sites where people will custom code such a thing up for you for a small fee. Some of the developers of mfladdons.com are in the Shark Pool here I know. Now if you do feel the need to go out and supplement things with code you pay someone else for, it is going to offset the fact you can get a league for less than half the cost of a CBS. But I've never felt a need to pay for such things (and there is some pretty cool stuff available as freeware even), and even if I did I think we'd still come out ahead.

I'll also give a kudos to MFL for how responsive they are to requests for new functionality. I think I've probably requested about 15 things, some minor like giving more lines in the news summary, to major ones like modifying how they do acceptance of trades and blind bidding. They've probably done 10 of them (and I expect another 2-3 will be done this next offseason as I just put them in the middle of this year).

With the extra flexibility comes the biggest detriment of MFL. If you want a shrink wrap website it's not going to look as great, and the extra functionality they have will of course take a little more set up if you want to use it.

* RTS and others I don't think I've had enough experience on them to be able to fairly say very much. I have a generally good impression of RTS from what I hear about it, and it also seems to fall into the costs-half-as-much-as-CBS, but I couldn't make a feature-by-feature comparison for example... whereas I at least had used CBS recently enough to have an idea what's out there for them. Yahoo I don't think is worth mentioning in comparison. It is MUCH MUCH MUCH less than the premium sites in terms of what you can do. You don't come anywhere near what is base functionality on other sites unless you buy something like Stat Tracker. And even with that, it's less than what you get on other sites, and the cost of a league of 12 buying Stat Tracker is more than the cost of just having got the league on a site like MFL or RTS in the first place.
Functionality/flexibility??? To the contrary, CBS is very flexible. You can do whatever you want with the scoring, to include decimal scoring. It has flexible IDP scoring and flexible rosters. The live-scoring is second-to-none. My advice would be to give it a try. I think you can set up a site, and try it for a while. And some particular point, you'll have to pay (before the season), but I think you'd like it. So it's $150. I can care less about the fee, because we divide the expense among the 12 owners.

Bottom line... It's a matter of preference. But don't take our words for it one way or the other. Just try it. As a CBS user, I give it a :thumbup:

 
Every MFL league site I have ever seen looks like it was designed by a half-blind ######ed chimpanzee with no thumbs. Seriously, they're so bad they make my eyes bleed.

 
I am not sure if CBS, RTS sports etc. offers this but one thing I like about MFL is that your league for every season always remains intact. My understanding is that it will alway be accessible even if you don't renew your subscription with them. Not a big deal for some but I really like the ablility to go back and check out previous seasons for my league.

 
I am not sure if CBS, RTS sports etc. offers this but one thing I like about MFL is that your league for every season always remains intact. My understanding is that it will alway be accessible even if you don't renew your subscription with them. Not a big deal for some but I really like the ablility to go back and check out previous seasons for my league.
Same with CBS.
 
I am not sure if CBS, RTS sports etc. offers this but one thing I like about MFL is that your league for every season always remains intact. My understanding is that it will alway be accessible even if you don't renew your subscription with them. Not a big deal for some but I really like the ablility to go back and check out previous seasons for my league.
Same with CBS.
Yup. Great stuff.
 
I see the cult of MFL has been posting.  I personally strongly dislike MFL and the set up. Find it clunky and non-intuitive.
Find a real commish.
however you "tweak" the appearance does nothing to the draft enginge, the FA system, and the other ways they do things that I strongly dislike.
LOL, MFL probably has the best player listing software available. Their draft engine is better than CBS. At least their draft engine doesn't screw up like CBS. I remember CBS drafting players for no reason and totally screwing up completed drafts.
 
I see the cult of MFL has been posting. I personally strongly dislike MFL and the set up. Find it clunky and non-intuitive.
Find a real commish.
however you "tweak" the appearance does nothing to the draft enginge, the FA system, and the other ways they do things that I strongly dislike.
LOL, MFL probably has the best player listing software available. Their draft engine is better than CBS. At least their draft engine doesn't screw up like CBS. I remember CBS drafting players for no reason and totally screwing up completed drafts.
I'll agree, I like MFL's drafts better than CBS's.
 
xpertsports.com SUCKS. I don't even like typing their name with all the problems I had with them. I like Yahoo, but they don't have a lot of the options I need so we'll be going with CBSSportsline who seems to have cleaned up their act.I used MFL last year and they were alright, but I like the way the stats work on CBS better

 
The best that I have come across and used this past year is Revolution which can be found at www.synsport.com.

Here is my site:

http://acc12.synsport.com/revolution/modul...e.php?league=24

My site is actually one of the weaker ones compared to all the other great ones developed and hosted there. They have an option for live stats if you want as well as a smackboard for your league.

The support there is out of this world! :thumbup:

 
I was in a WCOFF sattelite league on xperts this year, and have some experience with them from that. I like what I've seen from the site, I liked the drafting interface which didn't need to refresh the whole page to see picks being made, they just appeared. They used to have everything on one page, but now they have navigation similar to Yahoo's to go from page to page. They have some nice stat reports, and any time I've needed support they got back to me very quickly.I also use and like MFL, Yahoo, and CBS. The only site I've had major problems with is ESPN..

 
I am not sure if CBS, RTS sports etc. offers this but one thing I like about MFL is that your league for every season always remains intact.  My understanding is that it will alway be accessible even if you don't renew your subscription with them.  Not a big deal for some but I really like the ablility to go back and check out previous seasons for my league.
Same with CBS.
In a word, NO! If you don't pay CBS for the next year, your previous seasons are kaput.
 
So if I put a trade offer out there I can add my draft picks as part of the offer?
noI am hoping they add this for the 2006 season

you can put the draft pick offer in the comments

 
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Functionality/flexibility??? To the contrary, CBS is very flexible. You can do whatever you want with the scoring, to include decimal scoring. It has flexible IDP scoring and flexible rosters. The live-scoring is second-to-none. My advice would be to give it a try. I think you can set up a site, and try it for a while. And some particular point, you'll have to pay (before the season), but I think you'd like it. So it's $150. I can care less about the fee, because we divide the expense among the 12 owners.

Bottom line... It's a matter of preference. But don't take our words for it one way or the other. Just try it. As a CBS user, I give it a :thumbup:
Yes, functionality/flexibility. It's been a couple years since I used CBS so I'm still judging them partially on the fact they were behind MFL when I went to MFL exclusively, but I'll be surprised if they have the funcationality MFL does. I could be wrong, maybe they have everything MFL does. Positions like head coach and punter, the ability to have auctions instead of drafts, to have hard or soft salary caps, blind bidding waivers (either cap or a separate cash pool), ability to use other sites for things like drafts/auctions and import the results. Ability to set your own style sheets and run your own java applets in your website, including the ability to access the player database for your league within the applets. If they have those things I'm interested in hearing it, but I'm guessing they probably don't.Even if they do, it still doesn't make much sense to me to pay twice $150 for it when it costs me $60 as a repeat customer at MFL.

 
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Sans the first week or two I had no problems with AOL and more importantly it was free.
Thanks Brent, I appreciate it. Yes, we did have issues the first week, but we moved everything to a new data center and didn't really have any issues after that. Hope you'll be back next year.
 
Sans the first week or two I had no problems with AOL and more importantly it was free.
Thanks Brent, I appreciate it. Yes, we did have issues the first week, but we moved everything to a new data center and didn't really have any issues after that. Hope you'll be back next year.
My AOL League ran extremely slow, especially when trying to review free agents. It would take at least 20 seconds for the list to come up and then it would kinda lurch when i tried to narrow down the fields.The Tuesday morning/afternoon scoring fixes were quite annoying as well. I understand every fantasy site has to correct scores after Monday, but AOL was by far the slowest of the three services I used (MFL, Yahoo).

Yeah it was free, so what. When you're serious about your league, dropping a few bucks for good service is a no-brainer.

Just being honest.

 
So if I put a trade offer out there I can add my draft picks as part of the offer?
noI am hoping they add this for the 2006 season

you can put the draft pick offer in the comments
Actually, you can.When you offer a trade, you can include draft picks. You just cant be specific about it (ie 1st rd pick. or #5 overall). It just states "draftpicks" as part of the trade.

 
Sans the first week or two I had no problems with AOL and more importantly it was free.
Thanks Brent, I appreciate it. Yes, we did have issues the first week, but we moved everything to a new data center and didn't really have any issues after that. Hope you'll be back next year.
My AOL League ran extremely slow, especially when trying to review free agents. It would take at least 20 seconds for the list to come up and then it would kinda lurch when i tried to narrow down the fields.The Tuesday morning/afternoon scoring fixes were quite annoying as well. I understand every fantasy site has to correct scores after Monday, but AOL was by far the slowest of the three services I used (MFL, Yahoo).

Yeah it was free, so what. When you're serious about your league, dropping a few bucks for good service is a no-brainer.

Just being honest.
This is a fair critique of AOL--a lot of the features were nice (owner polls, power polls, owner stories, uploadable graphics, etc.), but the setup and function were really pretty clunky. Page load times took WAY too long. Our league had a problem with getting the polls to work (couldn't click your preference from the league's front page--had to go to the "Polls" page. I submitted a support request, which they said that they "fixed" but they didn't.) Live Scoring was the worst that I have used (accuracy-wise), but the same was the case on Fanball's pay-site, too.Ultimately, it was free, so on the whole I wouldn't flame them. But if reliability and ease of use are important to your league, you may do well to drop an extra couple of bucks for a pay site (but NOT Fanball, frankly).

 
Sans the first week or two I had no problems with AOL and more importantly it was free.
Thanks Brent, I appreciate it. Yes, we did have issues the first week, but we moved everything to a new data center and didn't really have any issues after that. Hope you'll be back next year.
My AOL League ran extremely slow, especially when trying to review free agents. It would take at least 20 seconds for the list to come up and then it would kinda lurch when i tried to narrow down the fields.The Tuesday morning/afternoon scoring fixes were quite annoying as well. I understand every fantasy site has to correct scores after Monday, but AOL was by far the slowest of the three services I used (MFL, Yahoo).

Yeah it was free, so what. When you're serious about your league, dropping a few bucks for good service is a no-brainer.

Just being honest.
Thanks for the feedback. We actually fixed the slow loading issue in the game, but too late in the season for most owners unfortunately. If you go there now, you should see a marked improvement in the speed. We are going to have a more automated fix in place for the clean up of fantasy scores, I agree that the 10am Tuesday morning fix was unacceptable. Thanks for your feedback guys, I hope you'll be back next year as this was our first real serious year in league manager and we should be able to make most of the changes that you serious league owners want to see.

 

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