Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
Spinoff of the Obama poll. Feel free to make a case for your best and worst selections.
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
Best/Worst Presidents since 1970 (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Arsenal of Doom
- Start date
Parrothead
Footballguy
I went chalk - Carter worst/ Reagan best
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
I voted George W. Bush worst and Clinton best, but figuring out the worst was easier. Clinton was almost the best by default, with H.W. Bush probably #2.
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
I thought about adding under/overrated into the poll but thought it would have gotten a little too long.
My underrated would have been H.W. Bush, overrated Reagan
My underrated would have been H.W. Bush, overrated Reagan
timschochet
Footballguy
Voted Reagan (best) and George W. Bush (worst.)
There are plenty of things I don't like about Ronald Reagan, but he was a great President. I don't believe that Presidents are responsible for doing all that much- they are shaped heavily by the times they live in, and much of what we think of as accomplishments were either dependent on Congress, or a reaction to a crisis. Conservatives laud Reagan for "winning" the Cold War and for changing the direction of our economy by cutting taxes. I dispute that he had much to do with the first, and the second may actually have hurt us more in the long run, according to many economists. But I still make Reagan #1 because he gave optimism to the public, and made us feel good about ourselves and our country at a time when we were not feeling good- that puts him up there with FDR and JFK as the three "feel good" Presidents of all time. We haven't really had such an optimist since; I thought Obama might be the guy but he has not been. FDR, JFK, and Reagan lifted the public's spirits, and this makes him over and above the rest.
I hate putting W at the bottom because he did a lot of good things for a lot of people, and tried to much more and failed. I think he's a decent guy. But the decision to invade and occupy Iraq has been so costly, so catastrophic to our interests in the region, our security at home, the economy, etc., with negative ramifications that will be with us for decades to come. Ultimately, W is responsible for this decision, the worst single decision by any President in the post World War II era. And that puts him clear at the bottom, with really no competition.
There are plenty of things I don't like about Ronald Reagan, but he was a great President. I don't believe that Presidents are responsible for doing all that much- they are shaped heavily by the times they live in, and much of what we think of as accomplishments were either dependent on Congress, or a reaction to a crisis. Conservatives laud Reagan for "winning" the Cold War and for changing the direction of our economy by cutting taxes. I dispute that he had much to do with the first, and the second may actually have hurt us more in the long run, according to many economists. But I still make Reagan #1 because he gave optimism to the public, and made us feel good about ourselves and our country at a time when we were not feeling good- that puts him up there with FDR and JFK as the three "feel good" Presidents of all time. We haven't really had such an optimist since; I thought Obama might be the guy but he has not been. FDR, JFK, and Reagan lifted the public's spirits, and this makes him over and above the rest.
I hate putting W at the bottom because he did a lot of good things for a lot of people, and tried to much more and failed. I think he's a decent guy. But the decision to invade and occupy Iraq has been so costly, so catastrophic to our interests in the region, our security at home, the economy, etc., with negative ramifications that will be with us for decades to come. Ultimately, W is responsible for this decision, the worst single decision by any President in the post World War II era. And that puts him clear at the bottom, with really no competition.
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
There are certainly some laudable aspects to his ex-Presidency. But they are overwhelmed with his incompetence, stupidity and outright malevolence with regard to foreign affairs. I think Carter, while not at all a good President, has proven to be an even worse ex-President. Easily the worst in my lifetime.
worst Nixon / Clinton close
best Regan
best Regan
siffoin
Footballguy
I've never understood the Reagan as BEST President. Personally, I always liked Reagan. He reminded me of my grandfather. He was also the first President I voted for in the 1984 election. But...
1) He secretly funded a war for the direct purpose of overthrowing a sovereign government. This was in direct violation of the Boland Amendment.
2) He traded arms for cash (to fund that war) and hostages with the government of Iran. This wasn't a couple of guns he gave them, but more than 2500 missiles. Let that sink in for a moment. We made a deal with the Aya-#######-tolla- weapons for some cash to fund an illegal war and hostages.
3) And Reagan did this AFTER these ####ers blew up the barracks in Lebanon killing 200+ service men and women. And his response to that bombing (besides giving them 2500 missiles) - nothing. We pulled out of Lebanon.
4) If not the seeds certainly the fertilizer for the rise of terrorist organization and their leadership in the 1990's likely came as a result from these actions.
This is not to disparage the man. And I am very empathetic towards him suffering with Alzheimer's in the last years of his life.
In this poll I voted Clinton as best and Bush II as worst.
In real life I never voted for Clinton and I voted for Bush in 2000.
1) He secretly funded a war for the direct purpose of overthrowing a sovereign government. This was in direct violation of the Boland Amendment.
2) He traded arms for cash (to fund that war) and hostages with the government of Iran. This wasn't a couple of guns he gave them, but more than 2500 missiles. Let that sink in for a moment. We made a deal with the Aya-#######-tolla- weapons for some cash to fund an illegal war and hostages.
3) And Reagan did this AFTER these ####ers blew up the barracks in Lebanon killing 200+ service men and women. And his response to that bombing (besides giving them 2500 missiles) - nothing. We pulled out of Lebanon.
4) If not the seeds certainly the fertilizer for the rise of terrorist organization and their leadership in the 1990's likely came as a result from these actions.
This is not to disparage the man. And I am very empathetic towards him suffering with Alzheimer's in the last years of his life.
In this poll I voted Clinton as best and Bush II as worst.
In real life I never voted for Clinton and I voted for Bush in 2000.
Last edited by a moderator:
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
56% of FBGs think a Democrat was the worst President of the last 40 years. 
Last edited by a moderator:
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Nixon deserves a bit more hate in here.
Bottomfeeder Sports
Footballguy
I went the exact opposite!Parrothead said:
Todd Andrews
Footballguy
Reagan ran away with his tail between his legs when hundreds of our men were killed in Lebanon and then worked under the table to get Iran weapons.
Sickening.
Sickening.
Niles Standish
Footballguy
Nixon worst.
