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Best WR right now (1 Viewer)
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The Mechanic
Footballguy
R.Williams is heads above a few of the listed.
dawgtrails
Footballguy
Put down the Berrian kool-aid man.But seriously, whi do you have Chad Johnson and Randy Moss in the poll??The best receiver is Tory Holt. Everyone knows it. Steve Smith is a close second. Then you can toss probably 15 guys around and get different opinions on who is 3-10 or so. (harrison, owens, CJ, housh, a johnson, r williams, harrison, wayne, jackson, walker, driver, moss, berrian, etc...)If anyone list anyone but Tory Holt as the best wr in football, they have some sort of mental deficiency that doesn't let them see beyond their own biases.
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dawgtrails
Footballguy
How can you even have a discussion beyond Tory Holt?? Serioiusly.Boldin is an excellent WR, he is no Tory Holt.I think it has gotten to the point where asking who the best WR is like asking who the best RB is. Holt and LT. He is that good.
Meat
Footballguy
Wrong. Torry Holt has fantastic hands, speed, route running, and big play ability. Boldin has the same, aside from speed, and adds on top of that blocking ability, youth & is one of the hardest WRs to bring down in the league. I won't say Boldin is BETTER than Holt or vice versa -- but to completely dismiss him (or any other WR) from the argument is ridiculous.
Sheriff66
Footballguy
Otis
Footballguy
Exactly.Also consider that Boldin leads the league in receptions, and has been a lock for 100+ catches since he entered the league (has anyone else done this? Even in his half-season he roped in over 50 catches).
Dirk Digler
Footballguy
I also think Boldin should be in this conversation
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Torry Holt and Steve Smith are undoubtedly the top two right now, IMO.
I am not sure I would put Owens and Moss in the top tier anymore. Both seem to have lost a step or two.
I am not sure I would put Owens and Moss in the top tier anymore. Both seem to have lost a step or two.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
I voted other because my vote is for BOLDIN! Hands Down!
dawgtrails
Footballguy
Boldin is a fantastic wr, no doubt. But seriously, he is not as good as Tory Holt, sorry.Fantasy-wise, maybe you could make a case, mainly because his team has zero running game, and throws the ball a real lot. In real life, I doubt you would find any GM that would take him over Tory Holt (for this year only).
dawgtrails
Footballguy
Boldin has more receptions, but almosta 2 yard difference in ypc, and has 4 less touchdowns.
It amazes me how people's memories work. If you came in here Sunday night, it would have been Holt and Smith, hands dows. Nobody would have mentioned boldin, not 1. Why? Because up until last night, there was actually talk in here of Boldin underperforming this year. What happens next??
Boldin has a fantastic game...now Holt and Smith are forgeotten (even though they had better games).
Now Boldin becomes the flavor of the day, and suddently he is the best wr in the game.
When in fact, he is the second best wr on his team. If it was Boldin who got hurt, and Fitz put up Boldin'w numbers from last night....would that make Fitz the best wr in football??
It amazes me how people's memories work. If you came in here Sunday night, it would have been Holt and Smith, hands dows. Nobody would have mentioned boldin, not 1. Why? Because up until last night, there was actually talk in here of Boldin underperforming this year. What happens next??
Boldin has a fantastic game...now Holt and Smith are forgeotten (even though they had better games).
Now Boldin becomes the flavor of the day, and suddently he is the best wr in the game.
When in fact, he is the second best wr on his team. If it was Boldin who got hurt, and Fitz put up Boldin'w numbers from last night....would that make Fitz the best wr in football??
gump
Footballguy
Define "best".Holt is the best right now....and NFL-record 6 straight 1300-yard seasons and he is in his prime.Smith is electric, but hasn't done it consistently enough to be on par with Holt.Bolden and Roy are young and will be better for the long haul, but they don't have Holt's experience, savy, and proven clutch performances.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
If we're talking real life football, Holt's close but I think it's got to be Steve Smith right now. He's picked up right where he left off after being injured and he is the franchise - at least on offense (Peppers is his peer on defense). He warps the whole game when he's in there to an extent unmatched by Holt. I think some people are having a little "incredible catch + 3 tds" hangover with Holt right now.
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Steve Dallas
Footballguy
Boldin and Roy Williams definitely belong on this list, long term. This year, Coles should also be on it.
Sheriff66
Footballguy
I like Boldin, but he is not even the best receiver on his team...1. Holt - Total package2. S. Smith - Carolina does win a game without him, and does lose a game with him, says a lot.
dawgtrails
Footballguy
Just to reemphasize my point about Boldin.
There was a post Sunday, maybe Saturday asking to list the top 10 RB and top 10 WR.
I dont think anyone, not 1 had Boldin as number 1. That tells me that this one game last night is sticking in people's heads. i would imagine, by the same token, if he had 3 catches for 50 yards last night, nobody would be chiming in with "Boldin is the best wr in football".
One game does not make, or kill a wr.
There was a post Sunday, maybe Saturday asking to list the top 10 RB and top 10 WR.
I dont think anyone, not 1 had Boldin as number 1. That tells me that this one game last night is sticking in people's heads. i would imagine, by the same token, if he had 3 catches for 50 yards last night, nobody would be chiming in with "Boldin is the best wr in football".
One game does not make, or kill a wr.
dawgtrails
Footballguy
Hines Ward does not belong in the same category as Tory Holt and Steve Smith.Are you just a raging Steelers fan, or do you own Ward in your big money league? Because otherwise, there is no reason he should be mentioned in this thread.
meanjoegreen
Footballguy
I think your insulting people's intelligence. It's also arrogant and closeminded to dismiss other's opinions, because they differ from your own. I think Steve Smith is the best receiver playing in the NFL right now. He changes the whole dynamics of the game. Teams have to game plan on how to stop him. I watched the Ravens/Panthers game this past weekend, and it just amazes me how outstanding Smith is.
Southern Knight
Footballguy
Okay I understand the eye rolling at Berrian, but what is it going to take for him to get a little respect.My gosh he was a step away from at least one maybe two long receptions last night. I can't bench him when he's got that much potential. If he ends the year as a top five back will he still be looked down upon?
-OZ-
Footballguy
I'm no Steelers fan, although I did trade for Ward this past off-season. He isn't near the FF WR the others are, but I appreciate his blocking ability and he (first 5 games this year notwithstanding) tends to make the difficult catches. He simply isn't flashy, which I respect.FWIW, I am a huge Lions fan and don't think Roy belongs in this discussion, yet. (and I happen to have him in the same league)
Hellfire Snail
Footballguy
Completely agree. If Holt doesn't make that spectacular catch yesterday, he has two touchdowns but less than a hundred yards, which is still excellent, but in a similar fashion I think that spectacular catch is also bumping him up. I'm not saying it's because of that catch that people regard him as the best, because, to be honest, he's definitely in the top 2 or 3, irrefutably, but to say it's a shut and closed case that he's the best with Smith out there simply isn't true. Talk about selective memories? Remember what Smith did last year? He was a one man wrecking crew that singlehandedly fueled that offense, and tore the Chicago defense to shreds in the post-season. Only when Seattle TRIPLE TEAMED him was he held in check. What he did to Baltimore yesterday was SICK. Holt feasts on Zona, SF and Seattle (which is a solid defense but their secondary leaves a lot to be desired).And count me in on the Boldin train. The guy is flat-out better than Fitzgerald and the definition of "beast". His talent puts him in the top five at the position without a doubt.
Statorama
Footballguy
He sure was unstoppable last night.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
Need to replace Moss with Boldin. I voted Holt.
Sputnikv8
Footballguy
If the poll is to hold true to the title of "right now", CJ and Randy shouldn't even be on this list.
Its a 2 horse race between Holt and Smith. Arguments can be made either way I think and be valid. The other guys, well, thats just people picking their favorite guy or guys on their team or something.
Its a 2 horse race between Holt and Smith. Arguments can be made either way I think and be valid. The other guys, well, thats just people picking their favorite guy or guys on their team or something.
dawgtrails
Footballguy
I agree with your thoughts on Boldin...I see him somewhere in the top 10ish??And a case can be made for Smith and/or Holt I believe. I just dont see any other wrs coming close to the 2 of them right now. if Smith has another few games with no injury questions, then he very well could be the best wr.Tory Holt has put up numbers every week this year. He is amazaingly consistent. That is why i put him up at #1.
salmonstud
Footballguy
T.Holt
S.Smith
Boldin
Roy W
S.Moss
S.Smith
Boldin
Roy W
S.Moss
gump
Footballguy
He has also put up the numbers every year for the last 7. Consistency is so rare for a WR, especially to that degree.
dawgtrails
Footballguy
double post
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Yitbos69
Footballguy
Here was my list of the Top Ten WR going forward that was posted in a thread yesterday
WR
1Holt
2Smith
3Roy
4A.Johnson
5Harrison
6Boldin
7CJ
8Santana Moss
9DJ
10Plax
I would not change that list today......Boldin is awsome and I am trying to trade for him but he is in the tier below Holt and Smith but he belongs on the list
WR
1Holt
2Smith
3Roy
4A.Johnson
5Harrison
6Boldin
7CJ
8Santana Moss
9DJ
10Plax
I would not change that list today......Boldin is awsome and I am trying to trade for him but he is in the tier below Holt and Smith but he belongs on the list
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
I vote Steve Smith. I have Holt in my league but as far as real life is concerned, Smith is far and away the best wr in the league right now.
Disco Stu
Confirmed FBGal
It's Holt and Smith way out in front of the rest.After those two you can start talking about Boldin, Andre Johnson, Harrison, Chad Johnson (despite the slow start), Owens, Roy, Ward, etc.
Random
Footballguy
Based on what?The facts (per game):
Holt 6 games: 6.17 receptions, 87.67 yds, 1.17 td's
Smith 4 games: 7.75 receptions, 112.5 yds, 0.5 td's
HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
Holt is the fastest to reach 10,000 yards ever. He continues to produce year in and year out and is currently in his prime. The objection to this will be "yeah, but he did that in the Martz system>". Now he is doing it in a new system.
It's hard to argue against current production PLUS past production.
Steve Smith and all others on that list can only boast one or the other.
It's hard to argue against current production PLUS past production.
Steve Smith and all others on that list can only boast one or the other.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
2:1 in favor of Holt. I wonder how this poll would've gone this time last year?
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
So Smith catches more passes for more yards?Panthers have gone 4-0 since Smith has returned. I feel he has a bigger impact on his team than Holt has on the Rams. They're both great wr's and you can't go wrong with either one.
MSULions
Footballguy
I think this is it right now....and i'd add:4. Boldin5. Chad JohnsonRoy is leading the league in yards...and that's with missing a game. He looks unstoppable out there, and Kitna has figured it out. He's going to continue to put up monster numbers. Boldin is a friggin Machine.
HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
Steady decline the last 3 years for Holt? I guess you ignore that Holt's receptions were up and yardage and TD were barely off his 2004 totals in spite of missing 2 games. I will concede the point that TO is much more of a red zone threat and Holt will not have as many double digit TD years as TO.It is what it is said:
2112
Footballguy
I can attest to this; these are my starting 3 WRs in my ppr league. And I am coasting.
