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All this talk of creaking and my once silent bike is now a creaking machine from the humidity. Any recommendations to quiet that down other than dryer air. My god is it annoying.
Ride it on gravel... that bacon sizzle sound it makes covers creaking that tarmac does not ;)
I'm talking mountain biking. None of that tarmac crap here. Love the sound of a rock garden, but the damn bike sounds like the tin man on steroids in this humidity.
 
All this talk of creaking and my once silent bike is now a creaking machine from the humidity. Any recommendations to quiet that down other than dryer air. My god is it annoying.
Ride it on gravel... that bacon sizzle sound it makes covers creaking that tarmac does not ;)
I'm talking mountain biking. None of that tarmac crap here. Love the sound of a rock garden, but the damn bike sounds like the tin man on steroids in this humidity.

Add grease to the right place(s).
 
I have just comme to
All this talk of creaking and my once silent bike is now a creaking machine from the humidity. Any recommendations to quiet that down other than dryer air. My god is it annoying.
Ride it on gravel... that bacon sizzle sound it makes covers creaking that tarmac does not ;)
I'm talking mountain biking. None of that tarmac crap here. Love the sound of a rock garden, but the damn bike sounds like the tin man on steroids in this humidity.
I have relented and have come to accept the creaking on my MTB :lmao:
 
I have just comme to
All this talk of creaking and my once silent bike is now a creaking machine from the humidity. Any recommendations to quiet that down other than dryer air. My god is it annoying.
Ride it on gravel... that bacon sizzle sound it makes covers creaking that tarmac does not ;)
I'm talking mountain biking. None of that tarmac crap here. Love the sound of a rock garden, but the damn bike sounds like the tin man on steroids in this humidity.
I have relented and have come to accept the creaking on my MTB :lmao:
WD40 for the win!
 
This morning my ride was nice and quiet minus my screaming hubs. It's just the humidity that does it. I've seen this as a complaint with Ibis bikes. Someone mentioned JBL speakers fitting in a bottle cage, so maybe blasting Springsteen through the woods is the real fix I'm looking for.
 
New frame is in. Color me biased, but I think the red/gold fade looks pretty damn skippy. Still need to get in the wheels and groupset. So far, so good.

New frame.
Says i need to log in to see it.

Frame, bars, pedals here. Crank, groupset, and wheels on the way.
I think the link is bad. I could also be checked out mentally today so apologies if I'm just dumb.

It kept uploading on my phone, showing the picture, then saying there was an upload error. Weird. This one works!
 
Heading up to Copper Harbor Michigan Thursday for 4 days of riding. Weather looking iffy for Friday and Saturday and we're camping, so hoping they got it wrong (which has been the case a lot lately so fingers crossed). Planning on hitting the Houghton/Hancock, Swedetown, and both Copper Harbor parks. The bedrock up there doesn't get slippery, but the roots definitely do. Regardless we're all overdo for a real vacation and will make the best of whatever maw nature throws our way.
 
I'm a dirt guy myself, but I switch over to road in the summer; too damn hot to ride in the woods. I absolutely love morning road rides followed by a dip in the pool. You don't realize how hot you really are until pull into the garage and finally stop moving. I take off the shoes and helmet and right into the pool i go. Feels wonderful. That chlorine does wonders on making my gloves smell nice.
 
Bikes from the quiver I'll be bringing up. One for every riding style. XC, trail, enduro/downhill. Super excited for a much needed vacation.

What are we looking at here? Instinct, Ripley and Ripmo?
You got it. From left to right. Rocky mountain instinct C70, Ripley V4, Ripmo V2S (this one is one of the jenson exclusive builds which is a little more aggressive on the downhill).
Where is your hardtail?
 
Bikes from the quiver I'll be bringing up. One for every riding style. XC, trail, enduro/downhill. Super excited for a much needed vacation.

What are we looking at here? Instinct, Ripley and Ripmo?
You got it. From left to right. Rocky mountain instinct C70, Ripley V4, Ripmo V2S (this one is one of the jenson exclusive builds which is a little more aggressive on the downhill).
Where is your hardtail?
I have a couple fat bikes that i consider my hardtails when there isn't snow, but i don't have a true hardtail. I really should have one, but my local trails are so damn raw i like to have a little squish even if it's just big fat tires.
 
Bikes from the quiver I'll be bringing up. One for every riding style. XC, trail, enduro/downhill. Super excited for a much needed vacation.

What are we looking at here? Instinct, Ripley and Ripmo?
You got it. From left to right. Rocky mountain instinct C70, Ripley V4, Ripmo V2S (this one is one of the jenson exclusive builds which is a little more aggressive on the downhill).
Where is your hardtail?
I have a couple fat bikes that i consider my hardtails when there isn't snow, but i don't have a true hardtail. I really should have one, but my local trails are so damn raw i like to have a little squish even if it's just big fat tires.
I'm doing the Downieville downhill in a couple weeks and debating between my hardtail and Ripley AF
 
Bikes from the quiver I'll be bringing up. One for every riding style. XC, trail, enduro/downhill. Super excited for a much needed vacation.

What are we looking at here? Instinct, Ripley and Ripmo?
You got it. From left to right. Rocky mountain instinct C70, Ripley V4, Ripmo V2S (this one is one of the jenson exclusive builds which is a little more aggressive on the downhill).
Where is your hardtail?
I have a couple fat bikes that i consider my hardtails when there isn't snow, but i don't have a true hardtail. I really should have one, but my local trails are so damn raw i like to have a little squish even if it's just big fat tires.
I'm doing the Downieville downhill in a couple weeks and debating between my hardtail and Ripley AF
I love my Ripley as the swiss army knife, jack of all master of none type bike. How do you compare it to your hardtail? It feels like my minimum squish for the type of trails we have locally, but i do see a fair amount of hardtails out there.
 
Bikes from the quiver I'll be bringing up. One for every riding style. XC, trail, enduro/downhill. Super excited for a much needed vacation.

What are we looking at here? Instinct, Ripley and Ripmo?
You got it. From left to right. Rocky mountain instinct C70, Ripley V4, Ripmo V2S (this one is one of the jenson exclusive builds which is a little more aggressive on the downhill).
Where is your hardtail?
I have a couple fat bikes that i consider my hardtails when there isn't snow, but i don't have a true hardtail. I really should have one, but my local trails are so damn raw i like to have a little squish even if it's just big fat tires.
I'm doing the Downieville downhill in a couple weeks and debating between my hardtail and Ripley AF
I love my Ripley as the swiss army knife, jack of all master of none type bike. How do you compare it to your hardtail? It feels like my minimum squish for the type of trails we have locally, but i do see a fair amount of hardtails out there.
I like it. I wanted a bike that isn't a total pig to climb as our local trails have some really steep climbs. My biggest complaints with it are the wheels and bottom bracket height. The wheels are 35mm inner width and they kind of go against what I was looking for as they are noticeably heavy to pedal. I put on some lower rolling resistance tires from what came stock and it helped a lot. The bottom bracket is crazy low and I get a lot of pedal strikes while pedaling uphill that I don't even have to worry about on my HT. A minor gripe was that the stock brake rotors would overheat and lose braking power after just minimal time descending. I upgraded the rotors and it fixed that issue.

On the flipside I don't notice much difference pedaling with the rear suspension locked versus open, so in my mind the suspension platform is really great for pedaling. It's fast on the downhills for the trails that I primarily ride and the rear suspension just provides a much more planted feel while descending. The geo feels great and I'd say all of my gripes are just in the componentry.

I love my hardtail and still find myself riding it about 30% of the time. It has a bigger fork than my Ibis, and I absolutely love the Lyrik compared to the Fox 34. It's just so plush for small chatter, but absorbs big hits like a dream. I have XC tires on it despite the fork as I do the occasional XC race and I like how they pedal. The hardtail provides a little extra spiciness to my local trails that the full suspension removes. Modern hardtails are super capable and with 29" wheels and higher volume tires they absorb quite a bit of chatter. If you're ever feeling bored with your local trails a hardtail is a great remedy.
 
Bikes from the quiver I'll be bringing up. One for every riding style. XC, trail, enduro/downhill. Super excited for a much needed vacation.

What are we looking at here? Instinct, Ripley and Ripmo?
You got it. From left to right. Rocky mountain instinct C70, Ripley V4, Ripmo V2S (this one is one of the jenson exclusive builds which is a little more aggressive on the downhill).
Where is your hardtail?
I have a couple fat bikes that i consider my hardtails when there isn't snow, but i don't have a true hardtail. I really should have one, but my local trails are so damn raw i like to have a little squish even if it's just big fat tires.
I'm doing the Downieville downhill in a couple weeks and debating between my hardtail and Ripley AF
I love my Ripley as the swiss army knife, jack of all master of none type bike. How do you compare it to your hardtail? It feels like my minimum squish for the type of trails we have locally, but i do see a fair amount of hardtails out there.
I like it. I wanted a bike that isn't a total pig to climb as our local trails have some really steep climbs. My biggest complaints with it are the wheels and bottom bracket height. The wheels are 35mm inner width and they kind of go against what I was looking for as they are noticeably heavy to pedal. I put on some lower rolling resistance tires from what came stock and it helped a lot. The bottom bracket is crazy low and I get a lot of pedal strikes while pedaling uphill that I don't even have to worry about on my HT. A minor gripe was that the stock brake rotors would overheat and lose braking power after just minimal time descending. I upgraded the rotors and it fixed that issue.

On the flipside I don't notice much difference pedaling with the rear suspension locked versus open, so in my mind the suspension platform is really great for pedaling. It's fast on the downhills for the trails that I primarily ride and the rear suspension just provides a much more planted feel while descending. The geo feels great and I'd say all of my gripes are just in the componentry.

I love my hardtail and still find myself riding it about 30% of the time. It has a bigger fork than my Ibis, and I absolutely love the Lyrik compared to the Fox 34. It's just so plush for small chatter, but absorbs big hits like a dream. I have XC tires on it despite the fork as I do the occasional XC race and I like how they pedal. The hardtail provides a little extra spiciness to my local trails that the full suspension removes. Modern hardtails are super capable and with 29" wheels and higher volume tires they absorb quite a bit of chatter. If you're ever feeling bored with your local trails a hardtail is a great remedy.
Awesome breakdown!

I have the same experience as the bolded. The thing pedals like a dream. I had a SC Hightower that was a pedal strike machine and don't have that issue with my Ripley at all. I went with a pretty high end build, so i don't really have any component complaints. My only real complaint is I can over match it pretty easy and bottom out, but i know it's capabilities and keep it for what it's used for mostly. The Ripmo can do any chunky tech/downhill I'm up for better than i can, so i try and tailor the right tool for the job.

I really should demo a new hardtail next time there's one at the trail head. I kind of wrote them off as something i wouldn't enjoy, but my riding style is more picking good lines than monster trucking, so it might be something I'd really enjoy.

Thanks for the write up.
 
I'm doing the Downieville downhill in a couple weeks
What's this like?
It's an iconic ride. 14 miles of downhill descending around 4800'. It's a mix of fast and flowy with rocky technical terrain and some exposure towards the end. One of the cool aspects of the ride is that given the changes in elevation you enter different microclimates as the ride progresses, and the characteristics of the trail change along with it. I did it a few years ago on my hardtail and most of the people on the trail thought I was crazy. Will likely switch it up and bring the Ibis this time.

This will give you an idea of what it's like on the upper part of the mountain
 
I'm doing the Downieville downhill in a couple weeks
What's this like?
It's an iconic ride. 14 miles of downhill descending around 4800'. It's a mix of fast and flowy with rocky technical terrain and some exposure towards the end. One of the cool aspects of the ride is that given the changes in elevation you enter different microclimates as the ride progresses, and the characteristics of the trail change along with it. I did it a few years ago on my hardtail and most of the people on the trail thought I was crazy. Will likely switch it up and bring the Ibis this time.

This will give you an idea of what it's like on the upper part of the mountain
Skimmed the video, man that looks fun. I've never biked west of Duluth, so no big mountain riding and all upper midwest. We have awesome trails, but no big decents. Gotta make it a point to get west of the Mississippi while i can still ride like my younger self.
 
I'm doing the Downieville downhill in a couple weeks
What's this like?
It's an iconic ride. 14 miles of downhill descending around 4800'. It's a mix of fast and flowy with rocky technical terrain and some exposure towards the end. One of the cool aspects of the ride is that given the changes in elevation you enter different microclimates as the ride progresses, and the characteristics of the trail change along with it. I did it a few years ago on my hardtail and most of the people on the trail thought I was crazy. Will likely switch it up and bring the Ibis this time.

This will give you an idea of what it's like on the upper part of the mountain
Skimmed the video, man that looks fun. I've never biked west of Duluth, so no big mountain riding and all upper midwest. We have awesome trails, but no big decents. Gotta make it a point to get west of the Mississippi while i can still ride like my younger self.
It's a lot of fun. He rides WAAAAY faster than I do, but I like his videos because they are just riding without music and other BS. I've only ever ridden in the west coast, from Santa Cruz to Tahoe and now up to Oregon. I should probably venture further away, but with kids it's easy to make excuses. It tends to be dry, dusty and loose in the Sierra Nevada range.
 
I'm doing the Downieville downhill in a couple weeks
What's this like?
It's an iconic ride. 14 miles of downhill descending around 4800'. It's a mix of fast and flowy with rocky technical terrain and some exposure towards the end. One of the cool aspects of the ride is that given the changes in elevation you enter different microclimates as the ride progresses, and the characteristics of the trail change along with it. I did it a few years ago on my hardtail and most of the people on the trail thought I was crazy. Will likely switch it up and bring the Ibis this time.

This will give you an idea of what it's like on the upper part of the mountain
Skimmed the video, man that looks fun. I've never biked west of Duluth, so no big mountain riding and all upper midwest. We have awesome trails, but no big decents. Gotta make it a point to get west of the Mississippi while i can still ride like my younger self.
It's a lot of fun. He rides WAAAAY faster than I do, but I like his videos because they are just riding without music and other BS. I've only ever ridden in the west coast, from Santa Cruz to Tahoe and now up to Oregon. I should probably venture further away, but with kids it's easy to make excuses. It tends to be dry, dusty and loose in the Sierra Nevada range.
We've got bedrock similar to what you see in whistler and our terrain/conditions are very similar with lake superior keeping us pretty damp. Now, we're no whistler in scope, but the big feature riding and granite bedrock is here even with our limited elevation. Word seems to be getting out, but so far it's still a nice little secret. I really do need to expand my riding to different places. There's so many amazing places to ride in this country.
 
I'm doing the Downieville downhill in a couple weeks
What's this like?
It's an iconic ride. 14 miles of downhill descending around 4800'. It's a mix of fast and flowy with rocky technical terrain and some exposure towards the end. One of the cool aspects of the ride is that given the changes in elevation you enter different microclimates as the ride progresses, and the characteristics of the trail change along with it. I did it a few years ago on my hardtail and most of the people on the trail thought I was crazy. Will likely switch it up and bring the Ibis this time.

This will give you an idea of what it's like on the upper part of the mountain
Skimmed the video, man that looks fun. I've never biked west of Duluth, so no big mountain riding and all upper midwest. We have awesome trails, but no big decents. Gotta make it a point to get west of the Mississippi while i can still ride like my younger self.
It's a lot of fun. He rides WAAAAY faster than I do, but I like his videos because they are just riding without music and other BS. I've only ever ridden in the west coast, from Santa Cruz to Tahoe and now up to Oregon. I should probably venture further away, but with kids it's easy to make excuses. It tends to be dry, dusty and loose in the Sierra Nevada range.
We've got bedrock similar to what you see in whistler and our terrain/conditions are very similar with lake superior keeping us pretty damp. Now, we're no whistler in scope, but the big feature riding and granite bedrock is here even with our limited elevation. Word seems to be getting out, but so far it's still a nice little secret. I really do need to expand my riding to different places. There's so many amazing places to ride in this country.
I have a business trip to Denver coming up. Last time I did Mt. Evans. This time I'm hoping to head up to Ft. Collins and ride some gravel tracks. Looks awesome up there.
 
I do not really have much of a trip report for my C&O/GAP trip: we averaged about 60 miles/day, only one person bailed before we finished, minimal mechanicals, minimal injuries, camped 3 nights, stayed in a hotel or hostel the other 3, oh... and it rained Every. Single. Day. Good times!

So 7 days riding or 6? Which way did you go and what were your stops? Anything else notable that I should know? Wife and I have this on the calendar for September.

I love the minimal injuries part. :p
 
I do not really have much of a trip report for my C&O/GAP trip: we averaged about 60 miles/day, only one person bailed before we finished, minimal mechanicals, minimal injuries, camped 3 nights, stayed in a hotel or hostel the other 3, oh... and it rained Every. Single. Day. Good times!

So 7 days riding or 6? Which way did you go and what were your stops? Anything else notable that I should know? Wife and I have this on the calendar for September.

I love the minimal injuries part. :p
we went DC to Pittsburgh... go the other way ;)

6 days of riding:

Day Segment Miles
1 C&O - DC to Bald Eagle Hiker/Biker site 58
2 C&O - Bald Eagle to Jordan Junction Hiker/Biker site 52
3 C&O - Jordan Junction to Cumberland - Hotel 84
4 GAP - Cumberland to Rockwood - Hostel 46
5 GAP - Rockwood to West Newton - paid campground 73
6 GAP - West Newton to Pittsburgh - Hotel 35



ETA: Day 1 in DC was a hot mess... some sort of a birthday party or something that day :shrug:
 
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My Copper Harbor trips were around 2011-12. I’ve only ever owned a hardtail so that’s what I rode. This was back before the land disputes when Stairway to Heaven was still open. We didn’t get shuttle rides to the top, we’d spend 2 hours climbing, then a half hour descending, twice per day. We’d hit all the trails at the time (nothing wast of the road then) other than double-diamonds. I rode one and got torn up, it was beyond my skill.

I returned briefly with my kids in 2021 but a lot of the trails were closed down and the kids weren’t In the right frame of mind, so it was an abbreviated ride. I know almost all were re-opened but I’m over 50 now without a crew, so I might be finished with those trails. I’d ride Marquette or Houghton again, but CH might be pushing a bit too far.
 
Bikes from the quiver I'll be bringing up. One for every riding style. XC, trail, enduro/downhill. Super excited for a much needed vacation.

My wife: "Why do you need three of the exact same bike?"
:lmao: Yes, she's not wrong. The first step in addressing a problem is admitting you have a problem. I'm not quite there yet.

Hey, between myself, my wife, and our son were up to 11 bikes between us. No problem at all, other than finding space for all of them.
 
My Copper Harbor trips were around 2011-12. I’ve only ever owned a hardtail so that’s what I rode. This was back before the land disputes when Stairway to Heaven was still open. We didn’t get shuttle rides to the top, we’d spend 2 hours climbing, then a half hour descending, twice per day. We’d hit all the trails at the time (nothing wast of the road then) other than double-diamonds. I rode one and got torn up, it was beyond my skill.

I returned briefly with my kids in 2021 but a lot of the trails were closed down and the kids weren’t In the right frame of mind, so it was an abbreviated ride. I know almost all were re-opened but I’m over 50 now without a crew, so I might be finished with those trails. I’d ride Marquette or Houghton again, but CH might be pushing a bit too far.
2021 was a tough year up there, access was terrible. We were up there last year and everything was easy to access and open. They've added more trails to the East Bluff network which are amazing.

No shuttle here either, woopidy woo trail all the way up. I still like the old hand cut stuff the best. There's some really challenging trails and the rock is super cool.

Looking forward to the island vibe in the northwoods setting too. No cell service, no hurry, everyone is always chilled out and cool. It's a pretty unique place.
 
My Copper Harbor trips were around 2011-12. I’ve only ever owned a hardtail so that’s what I rode. This was back before the land disputes when Stairway to Heaven was still open. We didn’t get shuttle rides to the top, we’d spend 2 hours climbing, then a half hour descending, twice per day. We’d hit all the trails at the time (nothing wast of the road then) other than double-diamonds. I rode one and got torn up, it was beyond my skill.

I returned briefly with my kids in 2021 but a lot of the trails were closed down and the kids weren’t In the right frame of mind, so it was an abbreviated ride. I know almost all were re-opened but I’m over 50 now without a crew, so I might be finished with those trails. I’d ride Marquette or Houghton again, but CH might be pushing a bit too far.
2021 was a tough year up there, access was terrible. We were up there last year and everything was easy to access and open. They've added more trails to the East Bluff network which are amazing.

No shuttle here either, woopidy woo trail all the way up. I still like the old hand cut stuff the best. There's some really challenging trails and the rock is super cool.

Looking forward to the island vibe in the northwoods setting too. No cell service, no hurry, everyone is always chilled out and cool. It's a pretty unique place.
Yup, I remember when we’d finally get to the top of Woppidy Woo and I’d hear a chorus of text dings as everyone’s texts since the last climb finally arrived. We’d take a break from the climb, mostly fail to reply to some texts, then hit the downhill or head over toward the lodge to go east.

There are some great rocky bits on those trails - I remember a spot I think near the top of Woopidy Woo where the best line was to ride on a little 2” wide ledge where you couldn’t pedal fully or your left pedal would hit the rock - had to either have enough speed to coast through or do some half-pedals and half-backpedals.

I did have some trouble with a skinny across a little gorge. I rode it a few times but never felt comfortable. Somewhere over by Mango I think.

While Stairway to Heaven was really cool and a great entry point to the trails, I was there when it was really slimy once and nobody could even walk up the boardwalks - everyone just slid off the edges. That blind 2-way boardwalk section hanging off a cliff was just an accident waiting to happen, so it might be best that it’s closed.
 
My Copper Harbor trips were around 2011-12. I’ve only ever owned a hardtail so that’s what I rode. This was back before the land disputes when Stairway to Heaven was still open. We didn’t get shuttle rides to the top, we’d spend 2 hours climbing, then a half hour descending, twice per day. We’d hit all the trails at the time (nothing wast of the road then) other than double-diamonds. I rode one and got torn up, it was beyond my skill.

I returned briefly with my kids in 2021 but a lot of the trails were closed down and the kids weren’t In the right frame of mind, so it was an abbreviated ride. I know almost all were re-opened but I’m over 50 now without a crew, so I might be finished with those trails. I’d ride Marquette or Houghton again, but CH might be pushing a bit too far.
2021 was a tough year up there, access was terrible. We were up there last year and everything was easy to access and open. They've added more trails to the East Bluff network which are amazing.

No shuttle here either, woopidy woo trail all the way up. I still like the old hand cut stuff the best. There's some really challenging trails and the rock is super cool.

Looking forward to the island vibe in the northwoods setting too. No cell service, no hurry, everyone is always chilled out and cool. It's a pretty unique place.
Yup, I remember when we’d finally get to the top of Woppidy Woo and I’d hear a chorus of text dings as everyone’s texts since the last climb finally arrived. We’d take a break from the climb, mostly fail to reply to some texts, then hit the downhill or head over toward the lodge to go east.

There are some great rocky bits on those trails - I remember a spot I think near the top of Woopidy Woo where the best line was to ride on a little 2” wide ledge where you couldn’t pedal fully or your left pedal would hit the rock - had to either have enough speed to coast through or do some half-pedals and half-backpedals.

I did have some trouble with a skinny across a little gorge. I rode it a few times but never felt comfortable. Somewhere over by Mango I think.

While Stairway to Heaven was really cool and a great entry point to the trails, I was there when it was really slimy once and nobody could even walk up the boardwalks - everyone just slid off the edges. That blind 2-way boardwalk section hanging off a cliff was just an accident waiting to happen, so it might be best that it’s closed.
We just got here and settled in. I know the skinny you speak of, it's just before mango on the red trail. Heading there in about an hour.

Yeah, stairway to heaven (that baby definitely got scary slippery when wet) and downtown on the lodge side are both gone which is sad, but they totally redeemed themselves with the newest additions to east bluff.

Cell phone thing is totally true :lmao:

Weather is looking pretty good atm, so this should be a pretty great trip.
 
Just arrived in Sierra City for our guys MTB trip. Unfortunately I have to work tomorrow since I just switched jobs and will likely miss the Downieville Downhill, but should be able to ride Mt Hough and Mills Peak Saturday and Sunday.
 
I’m trying to lose some weight and hit the trainer hard this winter - goal is to hit the spring running and ride the Dragon trail - 45 mile single track loop. https://www.thedragon.us/the-dragon-trail/trail-map/
How hilly is that? Could be flat or brutal - I know nothing about middle Michigan.
I rode 5 miles out then back a couple of years ago in one section and it was hilly enough - lots of gorges in that section to drop down and climb back up.

I can find an elevation profile for a 38 mile section of it, it's mostly 100 foot climbs over and over again.

It's been about a decade since I last rode 25 miles of single track in a day. We'll see how the trainer goes, I might end up dropping a car at a camp site and making it 2 days... but I'm hoping to feel up to the whole thing in a day.
Hey Tick, did you ever ride the full Dragon? Me and some guys I ride with just booked a place near there to ride it in August.
 
I’m trying to lose some weight and hit the trainer hard this winter - goal is to hit the spring running and ride the Dragon trail - 45 mile single track loop. https://www.thedragon.us/the-dragon-trail/trail-map/
How hilly is that? Could be flat or brutal - I know nothing about middle Michigan.
I rode 5 miles out then back a couple of years ago in one section and it was hilly enough - lots of gorges in that section to drop down and climb back up.

I can find an elevation profile for a 38 mile section of it, it's mostly 100 foot climbs over and over again.

It's been about a decade since I last rode 25 miles of single track in a day. We'll see how the trainer goes, I might end up dropping a car at a camp site and making it 2 days... but I'm hoping to feel up to the whole thing in a day.
Hey Tick, did you ever ride the full Dragon? Me and some guys I ride with just booked a place near there to ride it in August.
No, I didn't - I thought I might ride it with my nephew but we ran out of time on his visit.

Are you riding it one day or splitting it in half?

I lost the weight, then gained a fair amount back during summer event eating. I've been riding a fair amount, though... but for me, that's 40 miles per week spread out over 3 days.
 

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