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Big Ben's broken nose (1 Viewer)

What broke his nose? I cannot tell from the video. If it was a hand I'm already looking forward to James Harrisons idiotic quote complaining about the rules.

 
Real good consistency by the referees calling those QB headshots. Peyton gets grazed, 15 yards, Ben gets his face rearranged, nothing.

 
Real good consistency by the referees calling those QB headshots. Peyton gets grazed, 15 yards, Ben gets his face rearranged, nothing.
I'm not big on playing any cards but I do feel that the Steelers are being targeted because they are so outspoken about the rule changes. I think the real reason that they're targeted is because they actually are making sense when speaking against the rules, the parameters, the league being hypocritical, etc.
 
Real good consistency by the referees calling those QB headshots. Peyton gets grazed, 15 yards, Ben gets his face rearranged, nothing.
I'm not big on playing any cards but I do feel that the Steelers are being targeted because they are so outspoken about the rule changes. I think the real reason that they're targeted is because they actually are making sense when speaking against the rules, the parameters, the league being hypocritical, etc.
J.Harrison hits a QB in chest last week and gets 25K. Ben gets face ripped off, no flag. Heath gets helmet to helmet and knocked out, no flag.....Not being a whiner here, but something just doesn't seem right? Unreal imho.
 
Real good consistency by the referees calling those QB headshots. Peyton gets grazed, 15 yards, Ben gets his face rearranged, nothing.
I'm not big on playing any cards but I do feel that the Steelers are being targeted because they are so outspoken about the rule changes. I think the real reason that they're targeted is because they actually are making sense when speaking against the rules, the parameters, the league being hypocritical, etc.
J.Harrison hits a QB in chest last week and gets 25K.

Ben gets face ripped off, no flag. Heath gets helmet to helmet and knocked out, no flag.....



Not being a whiner here, but something just doesn't seem right? Unreal imho.
Yes. You are.

Harrison lowered his helmet to hit the QB. Thats illegal under the rules defined by the league.

Ben wasn't hit illegally. People can get hurt on non-illegal hits.

 
Real good consistency by the referees calling those QB headshots. Peyton gets grazed, 15 yards, Ben gets his face rearranged, nothing.
I'm not big on playing any cards but I do feel that the Steelers are being targeted because they are so outspoken about the rule changes. I think the real reason that they're targeted is because they actually are making sense when speaking against the rules, the parameters, the league being hypocritical, etc.
J.Harrison hits a QB in chest last week and gets 25K.

Ben gets face ripped off, no flag. Heath gets helmet to helmet and knocked out, no flag.....



Not being a whiner here, but something just doesn't seem right? Unreal imho.
Yes. You are.Harrison lowered his helmet to hit the QB. Thats illegal under the rules defined by the league.

Ben wasn't hit illegally. People can get hurt on non-illegal hits.
uh..............pretty sure that was a major shot to the head. illegal.
 
Real good consistency by the referees calling those QB headshots. Peyton gets grazed, 15 yards, Ben gets his face rearranged, nothing.
I'm not big on playing any cards but I do feel that the Steelers are being targeted because they are so outspoken about the rule changes. I think the real reason that they're targeted is because they actually are making sense when speaking against the rules, the parameters, the league being hypocritical, etc.
J.Harrison hits a QB in chest last week and gets 25K.

Ben gets face ripped off, no flag. Heath gets helmet to helmet and knocked out, no flag.....



Not being a whiner here, but something just doesn't seem right? Unreal imho.
Yes. You are.Harrison lowered his helmet to hit the QB. Thats illegal under the rules defined by the league.

Ben wasn't hit illegally. People can get hurt on non-illegal hits.
uh..............pretty sure that was a major shot to the head. illegal.
If you don't understand the NFL rule book, just say so. No need to veil it.
 
Real good consistency by the referees calling those QB headshots. Peyton gets grazed, 15 yards, Ben gets his face rearranged, nothing.
I'm not big on playing any cards but I do feel that the Steelers are being targeted because they are so outspoken about the rule changes. I think the real reason that they're targeted is because they actually are making sense when speaking against the rules, the parameters, the league being hypocritical, etc.
J.Harrison hits a QB in chest last week and gets 25K.

Ben gets face ripped off, no flag. Heath gets helmet to helmet and knocked out, no flag.....



Not being a whiner here, but something just doesn't seem right? Unreal imho.
Yes. You are.

Harrison lowered his helmet to hit the QB. Thats illegal under the rules defined by the league.

Ben wasn't hit illegally. People can get hurt on non-illegal hits.
No offense, but you need to know the rules a little more before u throw stones. ANY hit to a QB's helmet is a penalty, so a hand that smacks the facemask and breaks a nose falls under that category. And u can't hit a qb in helmet, u can't hit in chest with helmet, you can't hit low on the legs, might as well start kicking them in the groin area i guess.

 
one of the few things the ravens and steelers have agreed upon is the fact that Joe and Ben can be mauled and no flag will be thrown. compared to a automatic flag being thrown if u frown in the near vicinity of Brady and Manning.

how the officials missed it is beyond me. it wasn't a bottom of the pile type thing Ben was slapped/punched by Ngata right in the face when he was standing in the middle of the pocket. Ben is like 6-5 so not much is hidden or blocked. any hit intentional or not to a QB's helmet is a penalty or is suppose to be

 
uh..............pretty sure that was a major shot to the head. illegal.
If you don't understand the NFL rule book, just say so. No need to veil it.
It seems someone doesn't know the rules and it's not scrumptrulescentDirectly from the rule book:

In covering the passer position, Referees will be particularly alert to fouls in which defenders impermissibly use the helmet and/or facemask to hit the passer, or use hands, arms, or other parts of the body to hit the passer in the head, neck, or face...
 
The calls were so bad that any Collinsworth was chiming in. Miller's hit was particularly egregious.

 
Come on, guys. You know that the Steelers get ALL the calls.

Seriously, though, one of the reasons the Steelers are viewed as being net beneficiaries of officiating is because they often overcome bad calls to win despite the officiating. If the Steelers had lost tonight, the lack of penalties on at least the Ben nose and Heath head hits would be a far bigger story. Instead, it mostly gets mentioned in passing. Same for the Polamalu interception in the 2005 AFC Divisional Playoffs in Indy. Officiating mistakes just don't have the same juice when the worst calls went against the team that WON the game.

 
Real good consistency by the referees calling those QB headshots. Peyton gets grazed, 15 yards, Ben gets his face rearranged, nothing.
I'm not big on playing any cards but I do feel that the Steelers are being targeted because they are so outspoken about the rule changes. I think the real reason that they're targeted is because they actually are making sense when speaking against the rules, the parameters, the league being hypocritical, etc.
I am a Vikings fan--not a Pitt fan at all, and I agree. Harrison in particular is being targeted and all it does is call attention to how arbitrary and inconsistent the refereeing and the rules are. Kudos to Ben: say what you like about him, but he is tough and he is a leader on the field.
 
one of the few things the ravens and steelers have agreed upon is the fact that Joe and Ben can be mauled and no flag will be thrown. compared to a automatic flag being thrown if u frown in the near vicinity of Brady and Manning.how the officials missed it is beyond me. it wasn't a bottom of the pile type thing Ben was slapped/punched by Ngata right in the face when he was standing in the middle of the pocket. Ben is like 6-5 so not much is hidden or blocked. any hit intentional or not to a QB's helmet is a penalty or is suppose to be
"Superstars calls" happens in every major sport, just perks of being poster boys... Unless you are a poster boy for illegal hits like Harrison, than your calls comes with fines.
 
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Ngata nailed Ben directly in the face with his left hand. No call.

Miller gets hit, helmet-to-helmet, as a "helpless receiver" and gets knocked nearly unconscious. No call.

Ben gets his helmet grabbed by Suggs on that insane getaway near the end of the game where Ben basically backhanded the ball out of bounds. No call.

I guess that whole "protect the QB" doesn't apply if the QB's name is Ben.

I guess that whole "helmet to helmet" doesn't apply if the guy who gets nailed wears black and gold

 
one of the few things the ravens and steelers have agreed upon is the fact that Joe and Ben can be mauled and no flag will be thrown. compared to a automatic flag being thrown if u frown in the near vicinity of Brady and Manning.how the officials missed it is beyond me. it wasn't a bottom of the pile type thing Ben was slapped/punched by Ngata right in the face when he was standing in the middle of the pocket. Ben is like 6-5 so not much is hidden or blocked. any hit intentional or not to a QB's helmet is a penalty or is suppose to be
Ben and Joe just arent intimidating enough to get the call. They cant even wipe the hair from in front of their eyes.
 
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Real good consistency by the referees calling those QB headshots. Peyton gets grazed, 15 yards, Ben gets his face rearranged, nothing.
I'm not big on playing any cards but I do feel that the Steelers are being targeted because they are so outspoken about the rule changes. I think the real reason that they're targeted is because they actually are making sense when speaking against the rules, the parameters, the league being hypocritical, etc.
J.Harrison hits a QB in chest last week and gets 25K.

Ben gets face ripped off, no flag. Heath gets helmet to helmet and knocked out, no flag.....



Not being a whiner here, but something just doesn't seem right? Unreal imho.
Yes. You are.

Harrison lowered his helmet to hit the QB. Thats illegal under the rules defined by the league.

Ben wasn't hit illegally. People can get hurt on non-illegal hits.
I turned the game on a few minutes late, so I didn't see the play.However, I heard that Ben was hit in the head. Contact to the head of a QB is illegal (if the QB is in the pocket). So, was Ben in the pocket when he got hit in the head? If so, how can you argue that it was a legal hit?

 
Here's a better vid where you can see the blow to the face...

Rapists gonna rape...and get knocked the f out!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7oIjUCETZI
OK-just saw the video.1) Ben was clearly in the pocket.

2) He was clearly hit in the facemask (actually looks like the Ravens' defender's hand went INTO the facemask)

3) The facial contact DID NOT appear to be intentional

That said, under the current rules (and the NFL's supposedly "strict" interpretation of those rules), that should have been a penalty.

Furthermore, the hit later that knocked Miller out of the game also should have been a penalty (again under the current rules/interpretation of those rules).

Both of those plays should have resulted in 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalties, and both would have given the Steelers a new set of downs. In a 3 point game, for the division lead, this late in a season, those are huge misses by the officials.

To be clear, I don't think either play should be illegal, but that since they are under the current rules, they should have been called.

 
Real good consistency by the referees calling those QB headshots. Peyton gets grazed, 15 yards, Ben gets his face rearranged, nothing.
I'm not big on playing any cards but I do feel that the Steelers are being targeted because they are so outspoken about the rule changes. I think the real reason that they're targeted is because they actually are making sense when speaking against the rules, the parameters, the league being hypocritical, etc.
J.Harrison hits a QB in chest last week and gets 25K.

Ben gets face ripped off, no flag. Heath gets helmet to helmet and knocked out, no flag.....



Not being a whiner here, but something just doesn't seem right? Unreal imho.
Yes. You are.

Harrison lowered his helmet to hit the QB. Thats illegal under the rules defined by the league.

Ben wasn't hit illegally. People can get hurt on non-illegal hits.
I turned the game on a few minutes late, so I didn't see the play.However, I heard that Ben was hit in the head. Contact to the head of a QB is illegal (if the QB is in the pocket). So, was Ben in the pocket when he got hit in the head? If so, how can you argue that it was a legal hit?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7oIjUCETZI&t=0m57s
 
Yeah, but the Steelers had their last two Superbowl wins gift wrapped for them by the refs....I'm sure the fans of a lot of other teams would take the trade off.

 
Steelers fans are complaining about not getting the calls?

Really? Is this bizarro world? I'm not saying it's true or not, but the Steelers have had a reputation for decades for getting all the calls. Just because your HGH abusing, girlfriend beating LB'er complains a little, yet continues to make illegal hits doesn't mean you're being targeted.

 
Yeah, but the Steelers had their last two Superbowl wins gift wrapped for them by the refs....I'm sure the fans of a lot of other teams would take the trade off.
:fishing:
Just re-read those superbowl threads. They speak for themselves. No fish in those waters.In fact, Harrison was a beneficiary of one of those giveaways. He ran down the sideline near the end of the first half with that TD return, Arrington gets pushed in the back by Woodley and Fitzgerald gets "bumped" by the players on the Steeler sideline as he was closing in on Harrison.Don't get me started on the gifts they were given with Seattle.The point is Steeler fans need to take off the diaper because they were given two Superbowls and fans of a lot of other teams would love to be in that position.
 
Yeah, but the Steelers had their last two Superbowl wins gift wrapped for them by the refs....I'm sure the fans of a lot of other teams would take the trade off.
Why stop at two?Go for the whole six-pack.Actually, why not just say the Steelers haven't legitimately won a game without officiating assistance since the 1960s.Come on. I know it's in you. Go for it!
 
As bad as it looked, the hit on Miller isn't fine worthy. Miller went very low on his own before a defender crashed into his head. Could have, and possibly should have drawn a flag, but not "egregious" by any means.

The hit on Big Ben should have been flagged, period. IN defense of the zebras though, there were a lot of bodies pressed in there, and it's quite possible that they simply didn't see the blow. Under the circumstances, it's unlikely that that hit was fine worthy either. More bad luck for Ben than intentional malice by a defender.

Bottom line is that Pitt fans may have a complaint about two non-calls, but not a huge one. Officials have been inconsistant all year, not just against Pittsburgh.

 
As bad as it looked, the hit on Miller isn't fine worthy. Miller went very low on his own before a defender crashed into his head. Could have, and possibly should have drawn a flag, but not "egregious" by any means.The hit on Big Ben should have been flagged, period. IN defense of the zebras though, there were a lot of bodies pressed in there, and it's quite possible that they simply didn't see the blow. Under the circumstances, it's unlikely that that hit was fine worthy either. More bad luck for Ben than intentional malice by a defender.Bottom line is that Pitt fans may have a complaint about two non-calls, but not a huge one. Officials have been inconsistant all year, not just against Pittsburgh.
The hit on Miller is textbook. Massaqua was "going low" when Harrison hit him. Drew a penalty and a fine. This hit was the same, but harder.Personally, I don't think either should be fined, but I've said a lot of the hits that have been levied shouldn't have been.
 
Yeah, but the Steelers had their last two Superbowl wins gift wrapped for them by the refs....I'm sure the fans of a lot of other teams would take the trade off.
:thumbup:
Just re-read those superbowl threads. They speak for themselves. No fish in those waters.In fact, Harrison was a beneficiary of one of those giveaways. He ran down the sideline near the end of the first half with that TD return, Arrington gets pushed in the back by Woodley and Fitzgerald gets "bumped" by the players on the Steeler sideline as he was closing in on Harrison.

Don't get me started on the gifts they were given with Seattle.

The point is Steeler fans need to take off the diaper because they were given two Superbowls and fans of a lot of other teams would love to be in that position.
Yeah, there were tons of Steelers players standing on the Cardinals sidelines.
Do you have any other profound thoughts on the hot topics of the day?

Please entertain us some more.

 
Yeah, but the Steelers had their last two Superbowl wins gift wrapped for them by the refs....I'm sure the fans of a lot of other teams would take the trade off.
:fishing:
Just re-read those superbowl threads. They speak for themselves. No fish in those waters.In fact, Harrison was a beneficiary of one of those giveaways. He ran down the sideline near the end of the first half with that TD return, Arrington gets pushed in the back by Woodley and Fitzgerald gets "bumped" by the players on the Steeler sideline as he was closing in on Harrison.

Don't get me started on the gifts they were given with Seattle.

The point is Steeler fans need to take off the diaper because they were given two Superbowls and fans of a lot of other teams would love to be in that position.
Yeah, there were tons of Steelers players standing on the Cardinals sidelines.
:lmao:

All credibility destroyed.

 
Yeah, but the Steelers had their last two Superbowl wins gift wrapped for them by the refs....I'm sure the fans of a lot of other teams would take the trade off.
:fishing:
Just re-read those superbowl threads. They speak for themselves. No fish in those waters.In fact, Harrison was a beneficiary of one of those giveaways. He ran down the sideline near the end of the first half with that TD return, Arrington gets pushed in the back by Woodley and Fitzgerald gets "bumped" by the players on the Steeler sideline as he was closing in on Harrison.

Don't get me started on the gifts they were given with Seattle.

The point is Steeler fans need to take off the diaper because they were given two Superbowls and fans of a lot of other teams would love to be in that position.
Yeah, there were tons of Steelers players standing on the Cardinals sidelines.
Lets not let facts get in the way...or the fact that Fitzgerald intentionally ran out of bounds and did not reestablish in the playing field to attempt to make the play, which I believe is a penalty but did not draw a flag.
 

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