Bigger weapon...Fitzgerald or Westbrook this weekend? (1 Viewer)

[Ministry of Pain]

Gotta figure these two play a major part in the NFC Title game.

 

[Phlash]

Based on what he's done the past several games:

Larry Fitzgerald.

Guy is on fire right now and does not seem to be slowing down one bit. I hope for the sake of the Eagles that they can figure out how to double cover him and make it work.

 

[Man who'd fire the Yorks]

Fitz is gonna get his this weekend no matter what, unless he's on the bench hurt. He's been phenominal and it's great to see him play. Westbrook on the other hand I feel is going to be the deciding factor in this game. He had a poor outing against the G-men and will be looking to redeem himself. It won't be easy as the 'Zona defense has really stepped up here lately.I can see Westy going for about 130 combined yards and a couple of td's. This game is gonna be closer than some may think but in the end the Eagles pack their bags for the SB with a 3 point win in the desert.

I know I'll definitely be targeting Fitgerald in next years redrafts no matter who's at QB. Dude's got mad skills.

 

[harryhood]

There isn't many a LB that can hang with Westbrook and if the Cards can afford to, they need to put their most physical DB(or S) on him. AZ homers, who would that be in your secondary? I figure cromartie needs to be focused on coverage alone, maybe your SS?

I think AZ has the lumber back there to hit Westbrook every time the ball gets to him. If you can stretch him out on the ground he will get minimal rushing yards, but its those slip screens that he is DANGEROUS on. Giants made Phillips focus on Westbrook and they did a good job of recognizing the screen and meeting him soon after the catch. Problem was they didn't pay attention to Curtis or Avant on big 3rd down plays.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Westbrook hasn't looked good in the playoffs so far (outside of that screen play against the Vikes) but he torched the Cardinals last time they met. It looks like he's still playing hurt. Fitz is an absolute stud and will get his share. The Giants didn't have any threat of a passing game but the Cards certainly do.

 

[trader jake]

Westbrook hasn't looked good in the playoffs so far (outside of that screen play against the Vikes)

You mean the play that singlehandedly won the opening round playoff game?How do you think studs like Avant were open last week? Westbrook was drawing double coverage out of the backfield on some plays and he didn't miss on his blitz protection assignments.Don't be fooled by "numbers"...Brian Westbrook has been a huge force in both of Philly's playoff victories and is the biggest weapon left in the playoffs. There's no way Philly makes the same mistakes that Carolina did against Fitz but will the Cards be able to contain Westbrook like the Giants did?

 

[Tanner9919]

Based on what he's done the past several games:

Larry Fitzgerald.

Guy is on fire right now and does not seem to be slowing down one bit. I hope for the sake of the Eagles that they can figure out how to double cover him and make it work.

A. Samuel is going to be busy, but he's done well with Reg Wayne and Harrison in the past ( post season macthups NE v. Indy), so he'll do well here too..

Breaston is the guy to watch..

 

[JamesTheScot]

Fitz is gonna get his this weekend no matter what, unless he's on the bench hurt. He's been phenominal and it's great to see him play. Westbrook on the other hand I feel is going to be the deciding factor in this game. He had a poor outing against the G-men and will be looking to redeem himself. It won't be easy as the 'Zona defense has really stepped up here lately.I can see Westy going for about 130 combined yards and a couple of td's. This game is gonna be closer than some may think but in the end the Eagles pack their bags for the SB with a 3 point win in the desert.I know I'll definitely be targeting Fitgerald in next years redrafts no matter who's at QB. Dude's got mad skills.

I went with Fitz for one reason...Andy Reid.I can see a quick start by Arizona and Reid then abandoning the run. As good as Westbrook is, he's containable. I think that job is easier when Philly gets one dimensional.Philly should be capable of containing Fitz by keeping Warner on his back but Carolina had some trouble getting to Warner except for early in the third quarter.

 

[JamesTheScot]

There isn't many a LB that can hang with Westbrook and if the Cards can afford to, they need to put their most physical DB(or S) on him. AZ homers, who would that be in your secondary? I figure cromartie needs to be focused on coverage alone, maybe your SS?

I think AZ has the lumber back there to hit Westbrook every time the ball gets to him. If you can stretch him out on the ground he will get minimal rushing yards, but its those slip screens that he is DANGEROUS on. Giants made Phillips focus on Westbrook and they did a good job of recognizing the screen and meeting him soon after the catch. Problem was they didn't pay attention to Curtis or Avant on big 3rd down plays.

I think this turns more on Reid than anyone.Carolina was very predictable and then abandoned the run. But if you look at it, Williams had a decent average and had some good runs against the Cardinal defense.

If Reid remains doggedly commited to running the ball, this defense can be run on. I'm just not convinced Reid has really learned his lesson. If the game is close, I think he'll be fine. But if the Cards get on top by double digits, no matter what point in the game, I think Reid reverts.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

I hope both go ape poopy. Have both in the playoff contest.

I'd have to go with Fitz for reasons already stated....if Arizona gets an earlyish lead, I could see Reid forgetting about the run completely.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Westbrook hasn't looked good in the playoffs so far (outside of that screen play against the Vikes)

You mean the play that singlehandedly won the opening round playoff game?How do you think studs like Avant were open last week? Westbrook was drawing double coverage out of the backfield on some plays and he didn't miss on his blitz protection assignments.Don't be fooled by "numbers"...Brian Westbrook has been a huge force in both of Philly's playoff victories and is the biggest weapon left in the playoffs. There's no way Philly makes the same mistakes that Carolina did against Fitz but will the Cards be able to contain Westbrook like the Giants did?

Did you miss the part where I said "outside of that screen play against the Vikes"? Again, outside of that play Westbrook has been pretty much ineffective in both games. I know you cannot take away that play because it helped win the game for them but I'm just not convinced that he's the same Westbrook we're used to seeing. And I don't think he has been a huge force in these playoffs at all. Fitzy on the other hand has been a complete stud and is completely healthy.

 

[Rebirtha]

Westbrook hasn't looked good in the playoffs so far (outside of that screen play against the Vikes)

You mean the play that singlehandedly won the opening round playoff game?

Single handed? Philly was up by 2 when that play happened. It obviously helped but to say it was that play alone is overstating things a tad.

 

[brednbuddah]

Fitzgerald

 

[Marvelous]

I voted Westbrook. Arizona's D is NOT a top D, although they do make big plays. Westbrook should be able to get his yards and some scores.

I was surprised the Cardinals did not throw to Breaston more, but since they had no trouble moving the ball, it is a moot point.

 

[Holland Freeze]

Fitz has definitely stepped up to fill the void of Bolden being out, but isn't he going to be back for this weeks game? Ari is not the same team with them both on the field and Larry will not be relied upon as much.

How often have we seen Westie be relatively quiet during games and then come through with some big plays. When the game was close that is what happened last week - I suspect he will have greater success against Arizona than Minny and the G-men who have done much better at controlling run games over the course of the entire season.

 

[trader jake]

Westbrook hasn't looked good in the playoffs so far (outside of that screen play against the Vikes)

You mean the play that singlehandedly won the opening round playoff game?How do you think studs like Avant were open last week? Westbrook was drawing double coverage out of the backfield on some plays and he didn't miss on his blitz protection assignments.Don't be fooled by "numbers"...Brian Westbrook has been a huge force in both of Philly's playoff victories and is the biggest weapon left in the playoffs. There's no way Philly makes the same mistakes that Carolina did against Fitz but will the Cards be able to contain Westbrook like the Giants did?

Did you miss the part where I said "outside of that screen play against the Vikes"? Again, outside of that play Westbrook has been pretty much ineffective in both games. I know you cannot take away that play because it helped win the game for them but I'm just not convinced that he's the same Westbrook we're used to seeing. And I don't think he has been a huge force in these playoffs at all. Fitzy on the other hand has been a complete stud and is completely healthy.

Um, no, that's why I kept it in the quote. Based on both of your posts in this thread you seem to base a players effectiveness solely on their fantasy football statistics...yet conveniently remove one of the biggest plays of the postseason because it contradicts your premise. To state, "I don't think [brian Westbrook] has been a huge force in these playoffs at all" implies you don't feel blitz pick-up, drawing double teams, and gamebreaking plays in the clutch are very important. You can make your argument for Fitz without dragging down what Westbrook has accomplished thus far.

Westbrook hasn't looked good in the playoffs so far (outside of that screen play against the Vikes)

You mean the play that singlehandedly won the opening round playoff game?

Single handed? Philly was up by 2 when that play happened. It obviously helped but to say it was that play alone is overstating things a tad.

That's fair. It's unusual for a single play to completely decide the outcome of any game but that one comes very close. The Vikings and Eagles were each exchanging body blows while swapping the lead but Westbrook delivered the knockout punch. That wasn't possible without the body blows but the Eagles could have easily lost on points without Westbrook's huge play.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Westbrook hasn't looked good in the playoffs so far (outside of that screen play against the Vikes)

You mean the play that singlehandedly won the opening round playoff game?How do you think studs like Avant were open last week? Westbrook was drawing double coverage out of the backfield on some plays and he didn't miss on his blitz protection assignments.Don't be fooled by "numbers"...Brian Westbrook has been a huge force in both of Philly's playoff victories and is the biggest weapon left in the playoffs. There's no way Philly makes the same mistakes that Carolina did against Fitz but will the Cards be able to contain Westbrook like the Giants did?

Did you miss the part where I said "outside of that screen play against the Vikes"? Again, outside of that play Westbrook has been pretty much ineffective in both games. I know you cannot take away that play because it helped win the game for them but I'm just not convinced that he's the same Westbrook we're used to seeing. And I don't think he has been a huge force in these playoffs at all. Fitzy on the other hand has been a complete stud and is completely healthy.

Um, no, that's why I kept it in the quote. Based on both of your posts in this thread you seem to base a players effectiveness solely on their fantasy football statistics...yet conveniently remove one of the biggest plays of the postseason because it contradicts your premise. To state, "I don't think [brian Westbrook] has been a huge force in these playoffs at all" implies you don't feel blitz pick-up, drawing double teams, and gamebreaking plays in the clutch are very important. You can make your argument for Fitz without dragging down what Westbrook has accomplished thus far.

Westbrook hasn't looked good in the playoffs so far (outside of that screen play against the Vikes)

You mean the play that singlehandedly won the opening round playoff game?

Single handed? Philly was up by 2 when that play happened. It obviously helped but to say it was that play alone is overstating things a tad.

That's fair. It's unusual for a single play to completely decide the outcome of any game but that one comes very close. The Vikings and Eagles were each exchanging body blows while swapping the lead but Westbrook delivered the knockout punch. That wasn't possible without the body blows but the Eagles could have easily lost on points without Westbrook's huge play.

Most Philly fans will tell you that this isn't the same Westbrook they're used to seeing. What are you bringing in fantasy football for? I'm watching the guy RUN (yes he is a rb) and he's not the same explosive rb that we're used to seeing. I'm not sure how this is even debatable. Does he do other things well? Sure he does. By your definition, it's pretty much impossible for Westbrook to have an "ineffective" game because at a minimum, he'll always be a decoy. If thats how you measure effectiveness, thats fine. Given a player of his caliber, I measure "effectiveness" on his explosiveness and ability to take over a game. I've already acknowledged that he had a game changing run in the Vikings game. In my opinion, one great play in 2 games does not necessarily make a rb "effective" even if that run directly led to victory. Westbrook is a GREAT player and he's one of my favotires but he's not the reason the Eagles are winning. I'm not "dragging down" Westbrook. I'm stating that he's playing hurt and as a result "ineffective".

 

[jurb26]

Westbrook easily for me. Philly has great DBs and they will look to force Arz to beat them another way other than Fitz IMO. Westbrook is much more difficult to focus on and can get the ball in far more ways. I think Westbrook is going to pose a huge mismatch for anyone on the Arz D. More so than Fitz will Philly.

 

[trader jake]

I've already acknowledged that he had a game changing run in the Vikings game. In my opinion, one great play in 2 games does not necessarily make a rb "effective" even if that run directly led to victory. Westbrook is a GREAT player and he's one of my favotires but he's not the reason the Eagles are winning. I'm not "dragging down" Westbrook. I'm stating that he's playing hurt and as a result "ineffective".

Nice post, I understand where you're coming from now.

 

[Mark Wimer]

Based on what he's done the past several games:Larry Fitzgerald.Guy is on fire right now and does not seem to be slowing down one bit.

Fitzgerald and it isn't close. Westbrook has hit the wall during the playoffs, IMO. 1 71 yard reception, otherwise nada.

 

[trader jake]

Congrats to those that picked Fitz.

What a 1st half.