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Why is the word fired being thrown around? That is ridiculous. It's not like the game has passed him by like it did Shula and Landry.
That's not fair to Shula, he didn't go 1-15, in fact he was run out of town by an overzealous new owner named Wayne Huizenga who was eager to hire Jimmy Johnson
Not so sure how delicious he is now.
Regardless, I don't see Brady wanting to go back to NE.
Now do the Pats.
~1 yr can be an eternity in 45 yo QB terms, just saying.
I think Peter King and Cowherd need hot takes to generate ratings and pad their wallets.
Spot on!
Patricia is BB’s binky…he is also a horrible OC…no way he can continue in that role but what happens if BB insists on it?
This has been discussed in other threads. Some of the current issues were brought on by the overall success of the organization. They have multiple coaches poached by other franchises, with multiple people moving with McDaniels to LV. Bill made his own mess by not replacing many of those folks with qualified coaches, but he almost always backfills position with people that have had some experience in his system. Historically, he does not want coordinators coming in with their own schemes, systems, or ideas. He wants someone that knows and will use Bill's plays and schemes. That keeps Bill as supreme sith lord and ultimate overseer, but it also limits any fresh perspective and other voices to get added into the mix. It's always been Bill's way or the highway.
IMO, if NE fixes their OL and get an OC, Jones would go back to how he played last season. We can debate what that means, but Jones with protection was fine against the Vikings the week before (382/2/0/120 rating). Put another way, if Tom Brady was still around, NE would look like they did at the end of 2019, Tom would be griping about everything, and the team would still be struggling to play .500 football.
I know we are getting a bit removed from the thread topic, but I don't think it's Jones' fault that Patricia was calling three-yard routes on 3rd and 12, running draws, or sending out 5 receivers on deep routes when Jones had 1 second to get rid of the football. Jones certainly hasn't played well at times, but a lot of the issues have stemmed from no creativity in the offense, poor play calling, and a Swiss cheese OL.
Well, Tampa is 5-6 currently and have Godwin, Evans, Jones, etc. for Brady to throw to. Just like NE, the Bucs have had problems with their injuries, OL, and play calling. I am pretty sure Godwin, Evans, and Jones trumps Parker, Meyers, and Agholor. Maybe Tom would have authority to tell Patricia to go pound sand and call his own plays. But Patricia calling plays with receivers not able to get open would be just as big an issue for Brady as Jones (assuming Brady had time to throw the football). The Bucs have allowed 18.5 ppg (vs. 18.8 allowed by NE). Even with the players I just listed, the Bucs only are averaging 18.2 ppg (vs. 20.8 for NE).
Even this year, Jones has shown flashes of productivity. He was great for 3 quarters against the Ravens (IIRC, 6 completions 20+ yards downfield) but then things went south. He was lights out against the Vikings the entire game until he took sacks in the last 90 seconds. He was patient and completed 85% of his passes with no turnovers against the Jets a couple of weeks ago. But he doesn't extend plays and looks like a deer in the headlights under pressure (ranked one spot higher than Zach Wilson under duress). The other issue will be if not Mac . . . then who? I am not sold on Zappe (for the Zappemania! clique).
Yep. They're already the fourth-place team in their own division, and they're stuck in neutral while the Dolphins and Jets are clearly trending up and the Bills seem to be in good shape for the foreseeable future. If Jones isn't the answer at QB -- and I don't think he is -- the Patriots have quite a lot of work in front of them.
NE has lost to much better teams (MIA, MIN, BUF, BAL) and their defense did nothing in their loses to GB and CHI. Obviously Tom wouldn't help them win games they won anyway. Jones threw for nearly 400 yards against MIN . . . not sure Brady would better that performance. Justin Fields and the Bears ran for nearly 250 yards. Brady wouldn't change that. The Bills destroyed the Pats. Maybe that loss would have been closer. The defense allowed almost 300 yards of offense in the second half and OT against the Packers. Again, not a Brady issue. MAYBE the Pats could have beaten the Ravens (as the offense imploded with a ton of turnovers in the 4th quarter in that game). But I don't think the Pats today with Brady would be much different than they are without him.
I think this gets us full circle to the biggest systemic issue with NE. What worked for them for years (strong defense, limit turnovers on offense, run the football, and let their opponents make mistakes) is no longer a viable strategy. Teams need to push the action, and a conservative approach on offense normally won't cut it. Jones with the other elements we have mentioned (an actual HC and a much better OL) would be good enough to win games against average to poor teams, but not in the same league as the Bills or Chiefs (and probably Dolphins). The offense needs to be able to score in the 30s and the Pats need to be able to have games where the defense allows 28 points and still win the game. Right now, they can't usually get into the 30's and any game they allow over 17 points is essentially a loss. I posted the other day that NE's record is whatever-and-1 since 2019 in games they allowed 17 or fewer points and terrible in games when they allow 18+.
If Tom brady were around, A. Brady would be correct to gripe about the crap BB has put out there again. B. The OL and OC issues would still exist but would be mitigated by Brady's experience and talent. Nope not SB contender, not with the drafts and FA moves BB as been making for years but Brady covered a lot of that up and were he still there they would be a better team. Brady aint coming back and it's all water under the bridge. Its now about BB having total control and not having an elite qb around to cover the warts and whether or not Kraft makes a move to reign in BBs power to the point where BB retires or finds a better situation for himself.
