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Bill Cowher (1 Viewer)

Does the win in Super Bowl XL cement him as a HOF coach?

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Evilgrin 72

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141-82-1 regular season record - 14th on the all-time wins list. .633 career winning percentage. 12-9 career playoff record. 11 winning seasons in 14 years, including 10 playoff berths and 8 division titles. 6 AFCC appearances, 2 Super Bowl appearances, 1 Super Bowl title.

Still young enough to coach another 20 years, but is he already a HOF candidate?

 
Given the loyalty of the owners I'd say there is no doubt he has the job as long as he wants it or until they sell the franchise. He should have a shot at 300 victories before he is done and that will guarantee his spot. As it is right now I'd say not yet. There are plenty of guys with 1 ring and over 100 wins. I would not yet put Holmgren in the hall with a similar resume`. Guys like Ditka, Flores, Billick are not shoe ins so I don't see it yet.

If he does coach another 18 years he would be 65. If he maintained his winning clip of 64% during that time and averaged 17 games a year (less than he has been averaging) he would have 195 more wins for a total of339 wins. Damn elit company. If he only coached 15 more years, until 62, and if he averaged only a 50% winning clip with no playoff apearances he would have an additional 120 wins for a life time total of 261-202-1. Still very impressive numbers.

He is going to make it, just not quite there yet.

 
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Not yet, but he is well on his way. It is easy to say 'yes' as his first title is still less then 24 hours old, but I do not think he is quite there yet.

 
Not yet, but he is well on his way.  It is easy to say 'yes' as his first title is still less then 24 hours old, but I do not think he is quite there yet.
I think it may lock it up. I was of this exact mindset until I started lookig into the numbers... for example :Cowher vs. Parcells

Cowher 153 wins, Parcells 174 wins

Cowher .627 winning percentage (incl. playoffs) - Parcells .572

Cowher 12 playoff wins Parcells 11

Cowher 10 playoff appearances, Parcells 9

Cowher 8 division titles, Parcells 6

Cowher 11 winning seasons, Parcells 12

Cowher 6 Conf. Championship appearances (2 wins) - Parcells 4 Conf. Champ. appearances (3 wins)

Cowher 1-1 Super Bowls, Parcells 2-1

Considering Parcells is considered one of the best coaches ever and a mortal lock for the HOF, Cowher is in pretty good shape, especially when you consider he's coached 4 fewer seasons than Parcells. He's only 21 victories and 1 winning season behind him, and already has the edge in division titles, playoff appearances, and conf. championship appearances. He's still 1 SB trophy behind the Big Tuna, but aside from that, I think his resume shapes up rather nicely.

 
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141-82-1 regular season record - 14th on the all-time wins list. .633 career winning percentage. 12-9 career playoff record. 11 winning seasons in 14 years, including 10 playoff berths and 8 division titles. 6 AFCC appearances, 2 Super Bowl appearances, 1 Super Bowl title.

Still young enough to coach another 20 years, but is he already a HOF candidate?
Seriously, I think he would have been in if they had lost this, for some of the reasons mentioned above. The guy has consistently done more with a revolving roster than anyone. Bellicheck may be the modern day Lombardi (people can certainly make that debate), but if I had the chance for one guy to be my coach (the Bears are my team, and I am quite pleased with Lovie, but this is different) I would take Cowher any day. Every year they are right there. I can not think of what I would want more out of my team than to still be playing every January.
 
Not yet, but he is well on his way.  It is easy to say 'yes' as his first title is still less then 24 hours old, but I do not think he is quite there yet.
I think it may lock it up. I was of this exact mindset until I started lookig into the numbers... for example :Cowher vs. Parcells

Cowher 153 wins, Parcells 174 wins

Cowher .627 winning percentage (incl. playoffs) - Parcells .572

Cowher 12 playoff wins Parcells 11

Cowher 10 playoff appearances, Parcells 9

Cowher 8 division titles, Parcells 6

Cowher 11 winning seasons, Parcells 12

Cowher 6 Conf. Championship appearances (2 wins) - Parcells 4 Conf. Champ. appearances (3 wins)

Cowher 1-1 Super Bowls, Parcells 2-1

Considering Parcells is considered one of the best coaches ever and a mortal lock for the HOF, Cowher is in pretty good shape, especially when you consider he's coached 4 fewer seasons than Parcells. He's only 21 victories and 1 winning season behind him, and already has the edge in division titles, playoff appearances, and conf. championship appearances. He's still 1 SB trophy behind the Big Tuna, but aside from that, I think his resume shapes up rather nicely.
Of course Parcells has benefitted from the east coast media hype while Cowher has been overlooked as just a tough guy and not a thinking man's coach. I think the latter opinion will wane rapidly now as more and more people see that the Steelers do incorporate some exciting gadgets into their offense and they unleash them at the precisely correct moment.
 
I definitely think he'll make it based on what he's done so far. I'm not sure how long it will take, though. Is Cower considered an innovator? What was his role in the creation of the zone blitz? Being an innovator always helps.

 
141-82-1 regular season record - 14th on the all-time wins list.  .633 career winning percentage.  12-9 career playoff record.  11 winning seasons in 14 years, including 10 playoff berths and 8 division titles.  6 AFCC appearances, 2 Super Bowl appearances, 1 Super Bowl title.

Still young enough to coach another 20 years, but is he already a HOF candidate?
Seriously, I think he would have been in if they had lost this, for some of the reasons mentioned above. The guy has consistently done more with a revolving roster than anyone. Bellicheck may be the modern day Lombardi (people can certainly make that debate), but if I had the chance for one guy to be my coach (the Bears are my team, and I am quite pleased with Lovie, but this is different) I would take Cowher any day. Every year they are right there. I can not think of what I would want more out of my team than to still be playing every January.
I agree. With Cowher, you can pretty much expect a 7-year stretch to contain 6 winning seasons, 5 playoff berths, 4 division titles, 3 AFCC appearances, and a Super Bowl trip. I'll take that.He's made it to the AFC Title Game 6 times in 14 years (43%) - that's pretty frigging solid. Almost every other season - I don't know if there's another coach in NFL history with more than a few seasons coached that can claim that percentage.

 
6 AFC title games, two SB's (one win) and 150+ wins. Damn good resume there.

He'll be a lock when he hits 175 wins imo, which should only take less than 3 more seasons.

 
My question is how he would match up with Ditka in a cage match.

Also, given what he has accomplished thus far wil he be issued a mini Cowher just as Ditka was issued a mini Ditka. Would the mini Cowher be a full body model or just a disembodied chin?

 
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My question is how he would match up with Ditka in a cage match.

Also, given what he has accomplished thus far wil he be issued a mini cowher just as Ditka was issued a mini Ditka.
:lmao: :lmao: What if the Hurricane were named........ Hurricane Ditka?

 
He's made it to the AFC Title Game 6 times in 14 years (43%) - that's pretty frigging solid. Almost every other season - I don't know if there's another coach in NFL history with more than a few seasons coached that can claim that percentage.
That is impressive. Gibbs has made 5 Championship games in 14 seasons. Of course, Gibbs won 4 of those and was then 3-1 in those 4 SBs.
 
That win puts him in without question.

He's made it to the AFC Title Game 6 times in 14 years (43%) - that's pretty frigging solid.
You have to be pretty damn good to have that kind of run especially in an era of free agency. His longetivity and sustained success coupled with this playoff run and Superbowl victory put him in, opinion.
 
6 AFC title games, two SB's (one win) and 150+ wins. Damn good resume there.

He'll be a lock when he hits 175 wins imo, which should only take less than 3 more seasons.
At his current rate of 11 wins per year, he should hit that by the end of the 2007 season.
 
He's made it to the AFC Title Game 6 times in 14 years (43%) - that's pretty frigging solid.  Almost every other season - I don't know if there's another coach in NFL history with more than a few seasons coached that can claim that percentage.
That is impressive. Gibbs has made 5 Championship games in 14 seasons. Of course, Gibbs won 4 of those and was then 3-1 in those 4 SBs.
:thumbup: And Gibbs is a lock for the Hall, no question. I think Gibbs might be one of the top 3 coaches of all time.

 
There are plenty of guys with 1 ring and over 100 wins. I would not yet put Holmgren in the hall with a similar resume`. Guys like Ditka, Flores, Billick are not shoe ins so I don't see it yet.
Yes, but none of those guys has had the sustained success. Holmgren is close, but that's it. Ditka was the beneficiary of Buddy Ryans 46, and a mountain of talent that peaked together. He was a great player, but horrible coach. Flores was along for the ride. And Billicks story is still to be told. They built it up for 1 shot, and it worked. They tore it down. Can he get it back up again? They were in cap hades after their SB. Cowher is heads and shoulders above all 4 of these guys, being only a head above Holmgren.
 
There are plenty of guys with 1 ring and over 100 wins. I would not yet put Holmgren in the hall with a similar resume`. Guys like Ditka, Flores, Billick are not shoe ins so I don't see it yet.
Yes, but none of those guys has had the sustained success. Holmgren is close, but that's it. Ditka was the beneficiary of Buddy Ryans 46, and a mountain of talent that peaked together. He was a great player, but horrible coach. Flores was along for the ride. And Billicks story is still to be told. They built it up for 1 shot, and it worked. They tore it down. Can he get it back up again? They were in cap hades after their SB. Cowher is heads and shoulders above all 4 of these guys, being only a head above Holmgren.
I agree Cowher is underappreciated. Still plenty of single ring wearers. Vermeil, Gruden, Switzer, Seifert (did he have just the one?). Cowhers winning % extended as it has over a decade and a half is impressive. He does have more on his resume than many onetimers.
 
Yes now. But!

Lets face it he has another 10 to 15 years with Big Ben. Why retire? A QB like BB comes around once in a lifetime.

Can you imagine over 30 years with the same team.

 
There are plenty of guys with 1 ring and over 100 wins. I would not yet put Holmgren in the hall with a similar resume`. Guys like Ditka, Flores, Billick are not shoe ins so I don't see it yet.
Yes, but none of those guys has had the sustained success. Holmgren is close, but that's it. Ditka was the beneficiary of Buddy Ryans 46, and a mountain of talent that peaked together. He was a great player, but horrible coach. Flores was along for the ride. And Billicks story is still to be told. They built it up for 1 shot, and it worked. They tore it down. Can he get it back up again? They were in cap hades after their SB. Cowher is heads and shoulders above all 4 of these guys, being only a head above Holmgren.
I agree Cowher is underappreciated. Still plenty of single ring wearers. Vermeil, Gruden, Switzer, Seifert (did he have just the one?). Cowhers winning % extended as it has over a decade and a half is impressive. He does have more on his resume than many onetimers.
I think Vermeil has to be considered. Gruden needs more time, but is on about the same path as Cowher. Got his ring earlier though. Switz, no way. Seifert, borderline. Inherited a great team, much like switz, and they were build to win on his watch. His performance in Carolina really hurts him too, kind of takes the sheen off a bit. Still at least a head above these guys. I have him as the #2 coach going today, behind only BB. Shanny is right there behind these 2, along w/ Jeff Fisher, the Tuna and Gruden. Andy Reid belongs right w/ this last group. HOlmgren too. There are some young coaches I expect to get to this very good, but not great level too. Lovie, Marv , DelRio and Fox all come to mind, as does Denny Green.

 

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