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Bill Ford Jr. - "I'd Fire Millen" (1 Viewer)

There is only one person living in the free world who would not fire Matt Millen if given the chance. Unfortunately, that person happens to own the Detroit Lions at the moment.

 
Even Al Davis would have fired Millen. Or at least tried to force him to resign.
Correct. I don't think Al would care that Millen had a picture of him with a dog, a sheep, and a turkey. But some people are more sensitive than Al.
 
I know Matt Millen deserves to be fired.......truth is he should have never been hired. The Detroit Lions have been bad a long time before Matt Millen arrived.

The Detroit Lions have won 1 playoff game since Super Bowl 1, that's horrendous. That's a long time, many years before Millen came to Detroit.

The problem is and always has been William Clay Ford. He's a terrible owner. I've said this for years but you can't fire the owner so the Lions are doomed.

Go ahead......fire Millen. He definately deserves it but you'll still have Ford there. He's the guy who hired the freaken guy and thought he was good in the first place.

 
Go ahead......fire Millen. He definately deserves it but you'll still have Ford there. He's the guy who hired the freaken guy and thought he was good in the first place.
And in the second place. And in the third place. And in the fourth place.....all the way to last place. Right where they currently and always will reside.
 
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As a former Lions fan who has jumped ship but would still like to see the ship righted one day... I'm rooting for a winless season.

Everyone associated with that team, particularly Ford Sr. and Millen, deserves to have their names attached to that 0-16 scarlet letter for all of history. And it just MIGHT be the only thing that triggers any change.

 
Interesting....

for some reason when I read that article I pictured Millen playing the Mr. Smithers role and William Clay Ford as Mr. Burns. Last time I watched the Simpsons many years ago Burns just cared about $$$. It sounds about right to me.

 
As a former Lions fan who has jumped ship but would still like to see the ship righted one day... I'm rooting for a winless season. Everyone associated with that team, particularly Ford Sr. and Millen, deserves to have their names attached to that 0-16 scarlet letter for all of history. And it just MIGHT be the only thing that triggers any change.
Come on back... we saved you a seat on the bandwagon! You can sit next to Millen. I jumped from it a long time ago. I never really was a Lions fan growing up. I guess I never took them serious as a NFL team because they never had a decent QB. Always some retread from another team or draft pick that didn't pan out. The coaches they had were second rate... I think at a young age I could sense the team wasn't the best run team in the NFL. Lions success the last 20 years has been mainly through Sims and Sanders.
 
When WCF Sr passes on, does the team automatically go solely to Jr or is there an entire stable of kids ready to assume control?

 
When WCF Sr passes on, does the team automatically go solely to Jr or is there an entire stable of kids ready to assume control?
With the way thing are going who knows... William Clay Ford could leave the team to Millen. He hasn't been fired... he is still around. There has to be a reason for it.
 
The Lions are 31-84 under Matt Millen 31-84!!!! 53 games under 500
Yea, well according to Millen they have a plan now... just be patient. The law of averages says this team might make the playoffs in the next 10 years.
 
I remember analysts saying that the Lions were on there way when they beat the Cowboys in the playoffs. Let's see, since then, Cowboys=three superbowls. Leos=0 playoffs wins and 5 coaches. Nice!

 
TitusIII said:
Bill Ford Jr.: I'd fire Millen if Lions were mine

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article...052/1048/sports

Sorry if this has been posted...
There are hundreds Matt Millen clones currently working at Ford Motor Company that Bill Ford Jr. never fired while he was in charge. So I don't really have much respect for his comments in the Freep. If you think Matt Millen is bad, just take a look at the leadership team running the show at Ford Motor Company. Many of these Matt Millen clones have made a 30+ year career out of delivering zero results while still collecting a Ford paycheck. This is the reason why the Lions will never change as long as Ford owns them. Nobody ever gets fired. It's just an ongoing culture that consistently rewards poor performance and mediocrity.

 
As a former Lions fan who has jumped ship but would still like to see the ship righted one day... I'm rooting for a winless season. Everyone associated with that team, particularly Ford Sr. and Millen, deserves to have their names attached to that 0-16 scarlet letter for all of history. And it just MIGHT be the only thing that triggers any change.
I firmly believe that even if the Lions were 0-16 as long as the team continued to sell out Ford Field that they would not fire Millen. Coincidentally though, the team did not sell out its season tickets this year and barely sold out the home opener v Green Bay. Given how poor the team has been and the overall poor economy in Michigan, Lions fans are finally saying enough and not going to the games. I don't think it is a huge coincidence that the team is starting to change its tune a bit now that it is starting to get hit in the pocket book. Fans need to keep staying away from the games and not renewing their season tickets in order for Bill Ford Sr. to do the right thing and finally fire Millen.
 
The Detroit Lions have won 1 playoff game since Super Bowl 1
That is downright disgraceful.
I was there! Little did I know when I was 14 yrs old that I was a witness to history.
ME TOO :thumbdown: ....then my old man left my drunk ### at the Dome and drove back to Canada in my car .... oh, the memories....good times, good times :rolleyes:
Not familiar with Canadian law, but you imply you were 14, so Canada lets 14 year olds drive?
 
The Lions are 31-84 under Matt Millen 31-84!!!! 53 games under 500
Hah! I have no idea why I find this so hilarious !
Probably because the guys math is as bad as Millen's, at 31-84 they are 26 games under 500 not 53!
:hophead:
Who cares about the math..they have lost 53 more times than they have won.
But the math(attempt) is the funny part! Reggie needs some nightschool math courses maybe.
 
The Detroit Lions have won 1 playoff game since Super Bowl 1
That is downright disgraceful.
I was there! Little did I know when I was 14 yrs old that I was a witness to history.
ME TOO :excited: ....then my old man left my drunk ### at the Dome and drove back to Canada in my car .... oh, the memories....good times, good times :lmao:
Not familiar with Canadian law, but you imply you were 14, so Canada lets 14 year olds drive?
I implied that I was there...was 20 at the time...and NO, we don't let 14 year olds drive however we do let 19 year olds drink :banned: :banned:
 
Didn't Millen move straight from broadcasting to general manager?

It's odd. So many others have followed that career path so successfully.

 
The Lions are 31-84 under Matt Millen 31-84!!!! 53 games under 500
Hah! I have no idea why I find this so hilarious !
Probably because the guys math is as bad as Millen's, at 31-84 they are 26 games under 500 not 53!
No, because over/under .500 is always calculated as the number of games from the current point that it would take to reach .500.So in this case, 53 games under .500 is correct.Think of it this way: If you lose to go 0-1, you're 1 game under .500. If you lose again to go 0-2, you are 2 games under, not 1.But this doesn't change the original point: the Lions are horrific.
 
As a former Lions fan who has jumped ship but would still like to see the ship righted one day... I'm rooting for a winless season. Everyone associated with that team, particularly Ford Sr. and Millen, deserves to have their names attached to that 0-16 scarlet letter for all of history. And it just MIGHT be the only thing that triggers any change.
My father is a Chiefs fan and says the same about the Chiefs... hoping they don't win all season so they finally fire Peterson and Herm.
 
Didn't Millen move straight from broadcasting to general manager? It's odd. So many others have followed that career path so successfully.
:shrug: Forget about why it's taking so long for him to get fired, why was he hired in the first place? As fatness alludes to, here is a guy with zero front office experience stepping in to lead a franchise that he had little if any connection to during his playing career. I think the blinding light refracted from four SB rings on his fingers dazzled Ford to the point of offering the job. I can't think of any other reason -- please enlighten me here, Lions fans.
 
The Lions are 31-84 under Matt Millen 31-84!!!! 53 games under 500
Hah! I have no idea why I find this so hilarious !
Probably because the guys math is as bad as Millen's, at 31-84 they are 26 games under 500 not 53!
No, because over/under .500 is always calculated as the number of games from the current point that it would take to reach .500.So in this case, 53 games under .500 is correct.Think of it this way: If you lose to go 0-1, you're 1 game under .500. If you lose again to go 0-2, you are 2 games under, not 1.But this doesn't change the original point: the Lions are horrific.
I would've thought that what you are saying only occurs during a season where there are still more games to be played and the team still has chance to get to the amount of wins needed to at .500 at the end of the season. If you're talking about an existing record over a set period of time then that doesn't make any sense. If a team finishes the season 6-10 they weren't 4 games under .500, they were 2 games under .500
 
The Lions are 31-84 under Matt Millen 31-84!!!! 53 games under 500
Hah! I have no idea why I find this so hilarious !
Probably because the guys math is as bad as Millen's, at 31-84 they are 26 games under 500 not 53!
No, because over/under .500 is always calculated as the number of games from the current point that it would take to reach .500.So in this case, 53 games under .500 is correct.Think of it this way: If you lose to go 0-1, you're 1 game under .500. If you lose again to go 0-2, you are 2 games under, not 1.But this doesn't change the original point: the Lions are horrific.
I would've thought that what you are saying only occurs during a season where there are still more games to be played and the team still has chance to get to the amount of wins needed to at .500 at the end of the season. If you're talking about an existing record over a set period of time then that doesn't make any sense. If a team finishes the season 6-10 they weren't 4 games under .500, they were 2 games under .500
That's because instead of losing those 2 games, they would win them. The Lions don't get those games back.
 
ReggieHammond said:
champ9598 said:
The Lions are 31-84 under Matt Millen 31-84!!!! 53 games under 500
Hah! I have no idea why I find this so hilarious !
Probably because the guys math is as bad as Millen's, at 31-84 they are 26 games under 500 not 53!
No, because over/under .500 is always calculated as the number of games from the current point that it would take to reach .500.So in this case, 53 games under .500 is correct.Think of it this way: If you lose to go 0-1, you're 1 game under .500. If you lose again to go 0-2, you are 2 games under, not 1.But this doesn't change the original point: the Lions are horrific.
I would've thought that what you are saying only occurs during a season where there are still more games to be played and the team still has chance to get to the amount of wins needed to at .500 at the end of the season. If you're talking about an existing record over a set period of time then that doesn't make any sense. If a team finishes the season 6-10 they weren't 4 games under .500, they were 2 games under .500
No he's correct. The "sports convention" is cleary simply math when calculating games "over/under" 500. If a pitcher has a career record of 254-124, he is considered 130 games over 500. He could lose his next 130 starts and still not be "under" 500. Millen would have to win 54 games in a row to get his regime's won/loss record over 500.Math geeks and English professors should stay out of sports lexicon ( its RBIs not RBI when plural).
 
The Lions are 31-84 under Matt Millen 31-84!!!! 53 games under 500
Hah! I have no idea why I find this so hilarious !
Probably because the guys math is as bad as Millen's, at 31-84 they are 26 games under 500 not 53!
wrong. as the term is commonly used, they are 53 games under .500. if you are 4-2, you have to lose the next 2 games to be at .500. therefore, you are 2 games over .500, not 1 game.
 
The Lions are 31-84 under Matt Millen 31-84!!!! 53 games under 500
Hah! I have no idea why I find this so hilarious !
Probably because the guys math is as bad as Millen's, at 31-84 they are 26 games under 500 not 53!
wrong. as the term is commonly used, they are 53 games under .500. if you are 4-2, you have to lose the next 2 games to be at .500. therefore, you are 2 games over .500, not 1 game.
Here's some clarification for the confusion:115 games total played: 31 wins, 84 losses.

115/2 => (.500) = 57.5 games => 57.5-57.5

For 31-84* (how the hell does he still have a job?)

31/115 = .269565 ~ .270 wow...

*The 31 wins and 84 losses are not independently exclusive to one another.

Concerning Millen's current record: 57.5 - 31 = 26.5 games from .500

Now, because the fans won't stop paying to see the Lions play, Millen would need to win 53 games in a row (2.79 perfect seasons including playoff and Superbowl wins) to improve his winning percentage to .500 (168 total games / 2 = 84).

Ergo, both parties are right. It's something called manipulating stats.

QED

 
The Lions are 31-84 under Matt Millen 31-84!!!! 53 games under 500
Hah! I have no idea why I find this so hilarious !
Probably because the guys math is as bad as Millen's, at 31-84 they are 26 games under 500 not 53!
wrong. as the term is commonly used, they are 53 games under .500. if you are 4-2, you have to lose the next 2 games to be at .500. therefore, you are 2 games over .500, not 1 game.
Here's some clarification for the confusion:115 games total played: 31 wins, 84 losses.

115/2 => (.500) = 57.5 games => 57.5-57.5

For 31-84* (how the hell does he still have a job?)

31/115 = .269565 ~ .270 wow...

*The 31 wins and 84 losses are not independently exclusive to one another.

Concerning Millen's current record: 57.5 - 31 = 26.5 games from .500

Now, because the fans won't stop paying to see the Lions play, Millen would need to win 53 games in a row (2.79 perfect seasons including playoff and Superbowl wins) to improve his winning percentage to .500 (168 total games / 2 = 84).

Ergo, both parties are right. It's something called manipulating stats.

QED
Wait a minute....Did you figure all the Lions playoff games into these numbers? :thumbup: Oh, that's right.

Never mind.

 

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