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Bill O'Brien is an idiot. (1 Viewer)

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Meatwad Reloaded

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Is it clear now? Belichick is some sort of autistic football genius. O'Brien does not recognize his head from his ###. I have no stake in any of this as I am a Packer fan, but how can you have one of the best defensive and offensive players in the league and still lose to a crap team at home who starts a 40 year old qb?!?

What a disgrace!!! Who is with me????

 
I find it to be pretty weird that he's constantly flip flopping on who his starting QB is. Maybe those guys really are that volatile from quarter to quarter, but it's just not something I have seen very often in the NFL.

 
Madden Curse said:
I find it to be pretty weird that he's constantly flip flopping on who his starting QB is. Maybe those guys really are that volatile from quarter to quarter, but it's just not something I have seen very often in the NFL.
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It's hard to see why he can't make his mind up between Hoyer and Mallett? Other than the occasional good week, they are two of the worst QB's in the NFL. I love seeing him mouth "Why did you do that?" Hoyer just couldn't stand having a good night. He had to make a completely unfathomable dumb play to remind us who he is.

 
I wasnt buying the Texans hype, still wont, and wont until next year.

The Colts had the stage set to win that game. Hasselback is a proven vet, they have a strong running game, and a decent Defense IMO. If we look back on this game in January it just might be that the Texans ran into the best AFC team last night... Who knows. This first 4 weeks of the NFL has boggled my mind.

 
If Hopkins didn't draw that unsportsmanlike conduct penalty after that big sideline catch down field where he then slung the ball at the Colts defender, we might be having a different conversation this morning. Of course there are all sorts of plays and impacts that lead to an outcome of a game (that Hoyer pick was absolutely the death shot) but the Hopkins penalty that took away the big gain was to me the pivotal set back that led to the loss.

1ST & 10 on HOU 36
Penalty
3:25 B.Hoyer pass deep middle to D.Hopkins pushed ob at IND 43 for 21 yards (D.Lowery). PENALTY on HOU-D.Hopkins, Unsportsmanlike Conduct, 15 yards, enforced between downs.

I would say that penalty followed by the int easily added 100 gray hairs and a gastric ulcer for Obrien.

 
It's like that old saying about QBs: when you have two, you have none.

We all know those limitations so we look at the defense and think "Without Luck and with a team you KNOW is going to try to involve Andre Johnson" you would THINK that you would have the inside edge...at home...most dominant DE in the league going against a sick 40 year old backup that didn't really practice on a short week...and you know half their game plan intentions.

But then you remember/realize: Bill O'Brien is the HC and Romeo is the DC. Call the Lions. Call the Dolphins. Discuss your support group woes.

This league has a lot of talented players. Good (and bad) coaching IS the difference at this level. Right now in the NFL, there are probably about 8 GOOD coaches and 3 great ones. Everyone else is like that feeling you get when your 85 year old grand mother wants you to explain how to set up email on an ipad...over the telephone...and she needs you to walk her through "making an email mailbox" first.

 
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for fantasy purposes, I think we can stop thinking of HOU as a tough matchup for our players now. No fight in this team.

 
What is up with Watt? They were showing him getting double teamed and ending up on his back. I choose to believe that he's been getting double/triple teamed for years and has still been able to be a terror. Seems like he's gotten soft from doing all those commercials now. Mind boggling how invisible he's become. And I think Clowney is overrated as well. So this defense is not what it was hyped to be. We all know Watt has all world talent...but he just doesn't seem to be what he was. Their LBs have become insignificant as well. Really don't see anyone making plays for this defense. And the commentators mentioned that last night. Said when Watt is struggling, someone else needs to step up...but no one has.

If they had a decent QB their offense could be pretty solid. Hopkins is apparently unstoppable.

 
Warpig said:
What is up with Watt? They were showing him getting double teamed and ending up on his back. I choose to believe that he's been getting double/triple teamed for years and has still been able to be a terror. Seems like he's gotten soft from doing all those commercials now. Mind boggling how invisible he's become. And I think Clowney is overrated as well. So this defense is not what it was hyped to be. We all know Watt has all world talent...but he just doesn't seem to be what he was. Their LBs have become insignificant as well. Really don't see anyone making plays for this defense. And the commentators mentioned that last night. Said when Watt is struggling, someone else needs to step up...but no one has.

If they had a decent QB their offense could be pretty solid. Hopkins is apparently unstoppable.
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I thought Clowney flashed a couple of good moves. Watt, I think he's playing with an injury. He clearly either doesn't have the same power he had or he's coasting (and I doubt that he is that type of guy).

 
Shutout said:
Warpig said:
What is up with Watt? They were showing him getting double teamed and ending up on his back. I choose to believe that he's been getting double/triple teamed for years and has still been able to be a terror. Seems like he's gotten soft from doing all those commercials now. Mind boggling how invisible he's become. And I think Clowney is overrated as well. So this defense is not what it was hyped to be. We all know Watt has all world talent...but he just doesn't seem to be what he was. Their LBs have become insignificant as well. Really don't see anyone making plays for this defense. And the commentators mentioned that last night. Said when Watt is struggling, someone else needs to step up...but no one has.

If they had a decent QB their offense could be pretty solid. Hopkins is apparently unstoppable.
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I thought Clowney flashed a couple of good moves. Watt, I think he's playing with an injury. He clearly either doesn't have the same power he had or he's coasting (and I doubt that he is that type of guy).
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I heard the commentators say how he's been solid against the run. I just expected more from him. His size stood out on the field. That seems to be about the only thing I noticed about him. He looks huge!

I agree about Bridgewater. Clowney's knack for taking plays off or taking himself out of games in college would have scared me off of him. How long until Clowney starts faking an injury or pouting about their record? No thanks.

Do they trade for RG3? :ph34r:

 
Mudder said:
Wilfork is just a guy now. Running D was gawd awful.
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ya, Gore and that terrible line consistently ran for 5 yards a clip. I can't believe how bad a defense they've been. They are dead to me regardless of the opponent and situation.

 
Warpig said:
Do they trade for RG3? :ph34r:
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You mean do they sign him when the Skins cut him before his roster bonus next year?

As a Skins fan, I'd take anything anyone would give for him.

RG3 for a bucket of boardwalk fries and a milkshake? SOLD!

 
Fat Nick said:
Warpig said:
Do they trade for RG3? :ph34r:
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You mean do they sign him when the Skins cut him before his roster bonus next year?

As a Skins fan, I'd take anything anyone would give for him.

RG3 for a bucket of boardwalk fries and a milkshake? SOLD!
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On the surface, I say "sure, I like it" but it's going to take a strong coach that can develop a QB to be a good fit for RG3. Didn't O'Brien "develop" Mallet? If so, I want no part of that.

 
Last night I found myself thinking that thebtexans have an offense with great potential IF they had a qb. Their defense is abhorrent. I mean a disgrace. They should look into trading wither clowney or watt for a qb. I don't know if a trade like that would/could ever go down in the nfl. But it will be hard for them to become a good team in the next 2-3 years by drafting a qb unless they get lucky and draft a guy like a mariota who gets it right away.

Or maybe they make a play for jay cutlery the offseason as a free agent. I don't know but as long as they have those qbs they are screwed. That pass by buyer to seal the loss was about as bad of a mental error by a qb as I have ever seen. And that's really bad considering some of the qb ply I've witnessed in my 40 years.

 
rickyg said:
Last night I found myself thinking that thebtexans have an offense with great potential IF they had a qb. Their defense is abhorrent. I mean a disgrace. They should look into trading wither clowney or watt for a qb. I don't know if a trade like that would/could ever go down in the nfl. But it will be hard for them to become a good team in the next 2-3 years by drafting a qb unless they get lucky and draft a guy like a mariota who gets it right away.

Or maybe they make a play for jay cutlery the offseason as a free agent. I don't know but as long as they have those qbs they are screwed. That pass by buyer to seal the loss was about as bad of a mental error by a qb as I have ever seen. And that's really bad considering some of the qb ply I've witnessed in my 40 years.
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Clowney for RG3 would be fine in my book.

Cushing for Sanchez would even be fine in my book right now.

Hell, let's just go crazy: Patriots send Jimmy G to Houston in exchange for Foster and Hoyer. Have a nice time playing for 2nd place, everyone.

 
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pghrob said:
If Hopkins didn't draw that unsportsmanlike conduct penalty after that big sideline catch down field where he then slung the ball at the Colts defender, we might be having a different conversation this morning. Of course there are all sorts of plays and impacts that lead to an outcome of a game (that Hoyer pick was absolutely the death shot) but the Hopkins penalty that took away the big gain was to me the pivotal set back that led to the loss.

1ST & 10 on HOU 36
Penalty
3:25 B.Hoyer pass deep middle to D.Hopkins pushed ob at IND 43 for 21 yards (D.Lowery). PENALTY on HOU-D.Hopkins, Unsportsmanlike Conduct, 15 yards, enforced between downs.

I would say that penalty followed by the int easily added 100 gray hairs and a gastric ulcer for Obrien.
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I think the phantom face mask (on Clowney was it?) was more of a back breaker. Horribly officiated game.

 
Warpig said:
Shutout said:
Warpig said:
What is up with Watt? They were showing him getting double teamed and ending up on his back. I choose to believe that he's been getting double/triple teamed for years and has still been able to be a terror. Seems like he's gotten soft from doing all those commercials now. Mind boggling how invisible he's become. And I think Clowney is overrated as well. So this defense is not what it was hyped to be. We all know Watt has all world talent...but he just doesn't seem to be what he was. Their LBs have become insignificant as well. Really don't see anyone making plays for this defense. And the commentators mentioned that last night. Said when Watt is struggling, someone else needs to step up...but no one has.

If they had a decent QB their offense could be pretty solid. Hopkins is apparently unstoppable.
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I thought Clowney flashed a couple of good moves. Watt, I think he's playing with an injury. He clearly either doesn't have the same power he had or he's coasting (and I doubt that he is that type of guy).
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I heard the commentators say how he's been solid against the run. I just expected more from him. His size stood out on the field. That seems to be about the only thing I noticed about him. He looks huge!

I agree about Bridgewater. Clowney's knack for taking plays off or taking himself out of games in college would have scared me off of him. How long until Clowney starts faking an injury or pouting about their record? No thanks.

Do they trade for RG3? :ph34r:
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Yes, on the play where he tackled Gore for a loss I thought it was a DT at first.

 
thriftyrocker said:
Shutout said:
mphtrilogy said:
they shoulda kept fitz
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No, they shoulda passed on Clowney and taken Bridgewater. That teams didn't have the luxury of padding their strength and ignoring their weakness.
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I like Teddy but I think they'd still be 1-4.
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I totally agree Thrifty..

Im not sure if its all for the same reason.

(imo) Hoyer should be able to get the job done.. He needs too manage the game.

The slight problem (again imo) involves the Coach. A Coach is or can be worth three points.. In this case I believe its a minus three points.

In other words, in some games the opposing Team may be getting spotted a TD. (which is or can be alot)

 
devouredbychaos said:
VaTerp said:
devouredbychaos said:
Random factoid of the day: Bill O'Brien has a house down the road from my work and shops in my store all the time during the off-season.
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Next time you see him be sure to mention that Meatwad Reloaded thinks he's an idiot.
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Will do. Mike Sherman also comes in occasionally. Any messages I should pass along to him??
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Flip him the bird for being a crappy GM. Then shake his hand because him sucking led to Ted Thompson and Aaron Rodgers.

 
I'm glad to see this is finally getting some traction. I've been wondering for weeks now how you go into a season with Ryan Mallet and Brian Hoyer as your QBs. That alone should get this guy fired.

 
thriftyrocker said:
Shutout said:
mphtrilogy said:
they shoulda kept fitz
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No, they shoulda passed on Clowney and taken Bridgewater. That teams didn't have the luxury of padding their strength and ignoring their weakness.
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I like Teddy but I think they'd still be 1-4.
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Might very well be but at least they would have something to build on. This team can't possibly build on Hoyer and Mallet.

I'd much rather see Teddy develop with Hopkins and Strong and Short all year and go 6-10 than watch Clowney play 2nd fiddle to Watt and impact the game marginally...and still know that the Texans need to burn their next most valuable draft pick on finding a QB.

 
pghrob said:
If Hopkins didn't draw that unsportsmanlike conduct penalty after that big sideline catch down field where he then slung the ball at the Colts defender, we might be having a different conversation this morning. Of course there are all sorts of plays and impacts that lead to an outcome of a game (that Hoyer pick was absolutely the death shot) but the Hopkins penalty that took away the big gain was to me the pivotal set back that led to the loss.

1ST & 10 on HOU 36
Penalty
3:25 B.Hoyer pass deep middle to D.Hopkins pushed ob at IND 43 for 21 yards (D.Lowery). PENALTY on HOU-D.Hopkins, Unsportsmanlike Conduct, 15 yards, enforced between downs.

I would say that penalty followed by the int easily added 100 gray hairs and a gastric ulcer for Obrien.
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Or if Hoyer didn't over throw a wide open Hopkins for a sure TD...Did you see Hopkins' reaction after that play? The look on his face was priceless.

 
I think Watt is fine, the Colts just decided that they were not going to let him beat them so they doubled him most of the night. What is missing is the counter to that. If Crennel knows that Watt is going to occupy two linemen or one lineman and a TE or RB, he should be finding ways to free up other guys. You don't see that. This defense should be great with all the resources they have spent on it. 1st round picks on defense: Watt, Clowney, Mercilus, Cushing, Jackson, Johnson. Second round picks: McKinney. FA Signings: Wilfork, Moore, Joseph. So either Crennel can't coach defense anymore or RicK Smith is a terrible GM. Well, I know Rick Smith is a terrible GM but I also think that Crennel's success in New England relates to Belichick's influence rather that Crennel being a great defensive mind. He has been a very average defensive coach outside of his time in NE.

 
I thought the editing of Hard Knocks was the reason it looked like the Texans would be a train wreck, turns out it wasnt. Bill O'brein is a 40 watt bulb in a 100 watt world.

This little experiment he is doing with his qb's might work in college but it sure as hell doesnt work in the pros. So stupid.

 
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Meatwad Reloaded said:
how can you have one of the best defensive and offensive players in the league and still lose to a crap team at home who starts a 40 year old qb?!?

What a disgrace!!! Who is with me????
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One of the most recockulous comments I've seen in quite some time.

Last time I checked there are 22 players on the field, one star on each side of the ball doesn't win games for you.

 
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pghrob said:
If Hopkins didn't draw that unsportsmanlike conduct penalty after that big sideline catch down field where he then slung the ball at the Colts defender, we might be having a different conversation this morning. Of course there are all sorts of plays and impacts that lead to an outcome of a game (that Hoyer pick was absolutely the death shot) but the Hopkins penalty that took away the big gain was to me the pivotal set back that led to the loss.

1ST & 10 on HOU 36
Penalty
3:25 B.Hoyer pass deep middle to D.Hopkins pushed ob at IND 43 for 21 yards (D.Lowery). PENALTY on HOU-D.Hopkins, Unsportsmanlike Conduct, 15 yards, enforced between downs.

I would say that penalty followed by the int easily added 100 gray hairs and a gastric ulcer for Obrien.
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In the end the penalty didn't matter much; it was at the IND 43, they made it to the IND 38 before Hoyer threw the pick.

 
dhockster said:
I think Watt is fine, the Colts just decided that they were not going to let him beat them so they doubled him most of the night. What is missing is the counter to that. If Crennel knows that Watt is going to occupy two linemen or one lineman and a TE or RB, he should be finding ways to free up other guys. You don't see that. This defense should be great with all the resources they have spent on it. 1st round picks on defense: Watt, Clowney, Mercilus, Cushing, Jackson, Johnson. Second round picks: McKinney. FA Signings: Wilfork, Moore, Joseph. So either Crennel can't coach defense anymore or RicK Smith is a terrible GM. Well, I know Rick Smith is a terrible GM but I also think that Crennel's success in New England relates to Belichick's influence rather that Crennel being a great defensive mind. He has been a very average defensive coach outside of his time in NE.
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My memory of it is that Crennel has run sound defenses. His crew would be good on bad teams, then the HC would get fired, and because his players loved him, he'd get the interim job, which would turn into a multi-year thing. Then he would not be good.

 
Rick James said:
for fantasy purposes, I think we can stop thinking of HOU as a tough matchup for our players now. No fight in this team.
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Held Gore out of last night's game because I believed at home they would put up a fight and it would be a tough night. Put a fork in them.

 
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