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BiPartisan things...things we may be able to agree on... (1 Viewer)

Before reading this thread, I would have guessed:

Legalize Weed

Less Military footprint

More infrastructure 

After skimming, I see that not all of these are the case.   It's really disheartening to think about it for a decent amount of time and not really come up with much that I believe most people will agree on.  

 
Admit more skilled legal immigrants.

There are disputes between Democrats and Republicans about what level of resources we should expend in keeping illegal immigrants out, and also about how many legal immigrants we should admit in total.

But I think both sides agree that we should welcome more doctors, physicists, economists, architects, computer programmers, chemical engineers, college professors, and so on. So let's do that.

 
Admit more skilled legal immigrants.

There are disputes between Democrats and Republicans about what level of resources we should expend in keeping illegal immigrants out, and also about how many legal immigrants we should admit in total.

But I think both sides agree that we should welcome more doctors, physicists, economists, architects, computer programmers, chemical engineers, college professors, and so on. So let's do that.
I absolutely think we should do this, but the Trump administration clearly didn't. I am not sure there is consensus here.

 
Infrastructure.

End COVID. 

Legalize weed (Seriously, why are we against it at this point?  I can drink to my heart's desire and Alcohol causes a lot more problems than weed.  And OH MY at the money making power.  Tax it well. Pay for your infrastructure problems.  

Term limits.  

More legal immigration, less Illegal immigration.

 
Infrastructure.

End COVID. 

Legalize weed (Seriously, why are we against it at this point?  I can drink to my heart's desire and Alcohol causes a lot more problems than weed.  And OH MY at the money making power.  Tax it well. Pay for your infrastructure problems.  

Term limits.  

More legal immigration, less Illegal immigration.
Don't we need to agree that it's a real threat and something that needs to be ended first?  I'm not sure you could get a consensus on that first part in the country.   

(or are we just talking about what this board could agree on?) 

 
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Interesting article.  

A little different thought.  I feel that most would vote to legalize weed in general, but I like that they were against it for that that reason in OHIO, not because it's a gateway drug like was posted in here.  
Agreed. From what I recall at that time I believe the bill would have passed rather easily if it were done like other states. Once details started spreading the populace whiplashed and the bill was throttled (64-36).

 
Before reading this thread, I would have guessed:

Legalize Weed

Less Military footprint

More infrastructure 

After skimming, I see that not all of these are the case.   It's really disheartening to think about it for a decent amount of time and not really come up with much that I believe most people will agree on.  
Here’s the thing though - we are never going to get 100% agreement on basically anything and we really shouldn’t strive for that.  Also, we need to stop attributing a policy to everybody on a particular side.  I imagine there’s folks (maybe a lot) who are pro-weed on the right and anti-weed on the left.  

 
Infrastructure.

End COVID. 

Legalize weed (Seriously, why are we against it at this point?  I can drink to my heart's desire and Alcohol causes a lot more problems than weed.  And OH MY at the money making power.  Tax it well. Pay for your infrastructure problems.  

Term limits.  

More legal immigration, less Illegal immigration.
There’s very smart people on this board from both sides of the aisle who are very much against term limits.  

 
Here’s the thing though - we are never going to get 100% agreement on basically anything and we really shouldn’t strive for that.  Also, we need to stop attributing a policy to everybody on a particular side.  I imagine there’s folks (maybe a lot) who are pro-weed on the right and anti-weed on the left.  
Fair.  IMO for this topic, it should be the vast majority.  

So for something like legal weed, would we have about 75% in favor of that?  

 
Their arguments convinced me. Term limits doesn't fix the lobbyist problem; it empowers them.
I’m still in favor myself as I think having a Pelosi or McConnell stick around for this long is not good - if they want to continue public service, fine and actually good - but don’t stay in one position this long.  Move on to something else.

 
I’m still in favor myself as I think having a Pelosi or McConnell stick around for this long is not good - if they want to continue public service, fine and actually good - but don’t stay in one position this long.  Move on to something else.
8 years max for congress and senate.  Same as POTUS term limit.

 
8 years max for congress and senate.  Same as POTUS term limit.
Agree with this.

I think the constant focus on getting re-elected the next time around keeps us stagnant.  Everything comes back to "what does this do for my re-election chances?"  I don't know what the magic number is.  But 30-40 years of the same people constantly trying to win re-election certainly isn't good for business.

 
Agree with this.

I think the constant focus on getting re-elected the next time around keeps us stagnant.  Everything comes back to "what does this do for my re-election chances?"  I don't know what the magic number is.  But 30-40 years of the same people constantly trying to win re-election certainly isn't good for business.
I don’t agree. 

Because the President is only a 4 year term, it’s very important to have certain senators stay in office for decades, because it creates a sense of permanence with regard to international relationships and alliances. Besides, the public can always throw the bums out if they get tired of them. 

 
I don’t agree. 

Because the President is only a 4 year term, it’s very important to have certain senators stay in office for decades, because it creates a sense of permanence with regard to international relationships and alliances. Besides, the public can always throw the bums out if they get tired of them. 
Yeah.  

Except California is sick of McConnell and can't throw him out.

Kentucky is sick of Pelosi, and we can't throw her out.  

I'm not sure I buy that international relations are better because of McConnel or Pelosi.  

 
Mentioned this in another thread, but apparently there's a provision in the new Manchin-Schumer deal that will allow taxpayers with relatively simple tax returns to have them auto-filed. (I haven't been able to find confirmation of it, but I would assume it's probably based off this proposed law by Sen. Angus King, I-ME.) People have long pointed out the ridiculousness of a system where the government sends us information which we are required to input into a form and send back to the government.

Unless anyone in this thread works as a lobbyist for Intuit or H&R Block, I would imagine this is something we can all get behind, right?

 
Agree with this.

I think the constant focus on getting re-elected the next time around keeps us stagnant.  Everything comes back to "what does this do for my re-election chances?"  I don't know what the magic number is.  But 30-40 years of the same people constantly trying to win re-election certainly isn't good for business.
I honestly don't know what to think about term limits. What you identify is a huge problem, but in states that have instituted term limits on legislators they have seen the converse problem, where lawmakers are constantly plotting for their next jobs and staff/lobbyists end up amassing too much (unaccountable) power.

Maybe there's a Goldilocks solution that will allow you to avoid the worst excesses in both directions. I'm just not sure what that would be.

 
I honestly don't know what to think about term limits. What you identify is a huge problem, but in states that have instituted term limits on legislators they have seen the converse problem, where lawmakers are constantly plotting for their next jobs and staff/lobbyists end up amassing too much (unaccountable) power.

Maybe there's a Goldilocks solution that will allow you to avoid the worst excesses in both directions. I'm just not sure what that would be.
I guess it just depends on who it is.  I’m basically against them, but Fred Upton has been a great rep for my area (14 term).

 

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