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"Black Quarterback" ... hard to believe it ever mattered (1 Viewer)

Niles Standish said:
Raider Nation said:
njherdfan said:
I tend to agree with you, but it's also really interesting to think about what would have happened if Mo Lewis hadn't knocked out Drew Bledsoe. There's no way that Brady was ever seeing the field for the Pats as long as Bledsoe was the starter, and without any game film, I wonder what his free agent market would've looked like.
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This used to be my view as well, but some Pats fans on the board convinced me a long time ago that Brady would have been on the field sooner than many people think - injury or not, and despite Bledsoe's huge contract - if the team kept playing uninspired football. I think Belichick loved what he saw from Brady in practice.
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There's something to be said that Brady stayed on the roster even though the Pats were carrying 3 or 4 QBs. During Belichick's tenure they've mainly run with 2. Obviously he jumped quick but the Pats didn't risk him to waivers at any time.
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I think that Bellichick saw Brady as the next QB of the Bills, but the injury got him in there quicker. I've always said that if Bledsoe doesn't get hurt, the Pats go on to another mediocre season with Brady coming in at the end of the season and possibly Bellichick fired. Kind of weird how things happen sometimes. Brady should be sending Mo Lewis a cut out of each of his game checks, otherwise he has a Trent Green career at best.

 
Niles Standish said:
Raider Nation said:
njherdfan said:
I tend to agree with you, but it's also really interesting to think about what would have happened if Mo Lewis hadn't knocked out Drew Bledsoe. There's no way that Brady was ever seeing the field for the Pats as long as Bledsoe was the starter, and without any game film, I wonder what his free agent market would've looked like.
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This used to be my view as well, but some Pats fans on the board convinced me a long time ago that Brady would have been on the field sooner than many people think - injury or not, and despite Bledsoe's huge contract - if the team kept playing uninspired football. I think Belichick loved what he saw from Brady in practice.
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There's something to be said that Brady stayed on the roster even though the Pats were carrying 3 or 4 QBs. During Belichick's tenure they've mainly run with 2. Obviously he jumped quick but the Pats didn't risk him to waivers at any time.
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From 2000-2011 the Patriots had at least 3 quarterbacks on the roster every single year.

 
From Wikipedia:

He was born in Milwaukee, Wisconsin to Heidi Russo, who at the time was 19 years old and single. She placed him for adoption with Rick and Teresa Kaepernick, a couple who had two kids alreadyson Kyle and daughter Devonand were looking for a boy after having lost two other sons to heart defects.[27][28] Kaepernick became the youngest of their three children. He lived in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, until age four, and attended grade school in Turlock, California.[1][3]

 
He was born in Milwaukee, Wisconsin to Heidi Russo ...
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I'm just going to plunge in to my great risk but also out of curiosity (so please don't kill me) - Russo, that's Italian, no?

 
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fatness said:
Joe Summer said:
Timely ESPN article on James Harris
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In 1969, a year before the NFL merged with the AFL, Harris started Week 1 for the AFL's Bills, becoming the first black quarterback to start a season opener in either league. The headline previewing that game in the Sept. 10 New York Times read: JETS ARE LIKELY TO FACE HARRIS, BILLS' NEGRO PASSER, ON SUNDAY.
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Harris went to Grambling I believe.

The Bills went on to lose that game at home vs the SB Champion Jets 33-19, but the game was tied 19-19 in the 4th. The Jets had a very good defense. Harris went 3/12/74/1, but at some point, not sure when or why, Bills great Jack Kemp came in. The Jets closed out with a TD and then followed that with a pick-6 (likely off Kemp). Kemp finished 7/13/72/1/3.

Harris may have started because Kemp had missed the entirety of the prior season, maybe due to injury. The 1969 Bills was Kemp's last team after winning leading the 66 Bills to AFL Championship game.

He also eventually started for the L.A. Rams... and may have lost his job to Pat Haden. Not sure if that was due to injury, but with the Rams between 1974-75 Harris went 18-4, and he got the Rams to two straight NFC Championships. In 1975 Harris went 11-2 and then may have gotten hurt and/or was replaced by Ron Jaworski.

 
Joe Gilliam of the Steelers was another 1970s QB with potential. People may forget it was not always clear that Bradshaw would one day be a championship HOFer - besides Gilliam, another guy, Terry Hanratty, was also in the mix.

In 1974 Gilliam did go 4-1-1, but the Steelers had that all time great defense, so it was not all him; but eventually Bradshaw took over and won PIT's first SB, after that it was his job.

Gilliam did pretty decently with his chances in 75 but he never had another start and that would be his last year in football.

 
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1977 Warren Moon has a 134+ QBR and leads Washington to a Pac-8 championship and the Huskies' first Rose Bowl appearance in 15 years and only their 4th ever, where they beat a 10-1 Top-5 Michigan squad and he is the Rose Bowl MVP..... and he doesn't get drafted.

 
There is a better chance of a black man getting elected president than there is ever of a black QB winning the Super Bowl.

 
BusterTBronco said:
I see the Raiders are about to trade for Matt Schaub and will bench Terrell Pryor.

Good move.
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Yep. Schaub's INT's are much more clutch and dramatic, should really get that stadium rocking. Great for beer sales.

 
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