Blind Bidding Draft?.... (1 Viewer)

[steelerfan1]

Does this sound like a decent or fun idea to anyone, or do you think it would be boring?

Having a lot of leagues who have blind bidding for free agents during the season where you only have a set amount of cash to spend, do you think having a draft this way would be any fun?

For example, on draft day, have $100 allowed to spend on a roster like an auction, but when a player gets put up all teams would mark down an amount and the owner who had the highest amount gets that player.

The owners in my league don't want to switch to an auction type draft (We do serpentine now), but we handle the free agents by having only 20 bucks throughout the year and it is done by blind bidding on a player and they all seem to like that format, so I am trying to come up with something other than the same ole snake draft in hopes to get them away from it.

Any feedback would be appreciated.

 

[JayMan]

What if the first 6 guys named are WRs... and you get 5 of them (you start 2) - for 99$ out of your 100$...

I know - extreme case... but I would guess that you could end up with very uneven rosters (position wise I mean - not talent wise)...

 

[steelerfan1]

I would think that if you had won your 2 starting WR's that you would just put a 0 down for the next WR that came up for bid.

What if the first 6 guys named are WRs... and you get 5 of them (you start 2) - for 99$ out of your 100$... I know - extreme case... but I would guess that you could end up with very uneven rosters (position wise I mean - not talent wise)...

 

[JayMan]

I would think that if you had won your 2 starting WR's that you would just put a 0 down for the next WR that came up for bid.

What if the first 6 guys named are WRs... and you get 5 of them (you start 2) - for 99$ out of your 100$... I know - extreme case... but I would guess that you could end up with very uneven rosters (position wise I mean - not talent wise)...

Ok - I misunderstood the process... I was thinking that you were putting up values in a predraft mode - and were not able to modify then once the draft has started...

 

[NYRAGE]

After much reluctance, my league switched to an auction draft this year. I had originally proposed a blind bid process, but they wanted an open bidding process. Either one would be an improvement from the serpentine draft in my opinion, but I liked the way the open auction bidding turned out. In fact, everyone loved the process and it re-energized our league.

Keep trying to persuade them. Do a little research and provide feedback from people that switched. Most people are afraid of change at first, but I think your league will like the results.

 

[steelerfan1]

Thanks NY.They have been provided with a lot of info and evey year it still gets voted down. i figure if they were happy with the way the free agents work I might be able to get them to at least try this....

After much reluctance, my league switched to an auction draft this year. I had originally proposed a blind bid process, but they wanted an open bidding process. Either one would be an improvement from the serpentine draft in my opinion, but I liked the way the open auction bidding turned out. In fact, everyone loved the process and it re-energized our league. Keep trying to persuade them. Do a little research and provide feedback from people that switched. Most people are afraid of change at first, but I think your league will like the results.

 

[Alberta Clipper]

I play in most every kind of league. One of them is a blind bidding redraft that starts the year with 19 man rosters starting 1-3-3-1-1-1 (10) (TE reqd).

MFL site is located here

Rules link for ideas is located Rules here

It is a lot of fun but your entire year does sometimes hinge on those initial blind bids won and lost.

 

[steelerfan1]

thanks clipper,

ours is a live draft evry year with everyone present.

i plan on bringing it to them to see if we can try it.

i think i my try the idea of bringing up 1 player at a time and finding out where he goes before another owner would bring up another player.

thanks again.

I play in most every kind of league. One of them is a blind bidding redraft that starts the year with 19 man rosters starting 1-3-3-1-1-1 (10) (TE reqd).

MFL site is located here

Rules link for ideas is located Rules here

It is a lot of fun but your entire year does sometimes hinge on those initial blind bids won and lost.

 

[BoltBacker]

Does this sound like a decent or fun idea to anyone, or do you think it would be boring?Having a lot of leagues who have blind bidding for free agents during the season where you only have a set amount of cash to spend, do you think having a draft this way would be any fun?For example, on draft day, have $100 allowed to spend on a roster like an auction, but when a player gets put up all teams would mark down an amount and the owner who had the highest amount gets that player.The owners in my league don't want to switch to an auction type draft (We do serpentine now), but we handle the free agents by having only 20 bucks throughout the year and it is done by blind bidding on a player and they all seem to like that format, so I am trying to come up with something other than the same ole snake draft in hopes to get them away from it. Any feedback would be appreciated.

I've done BB several times and feel it's the best way to go. Takes a lot less time than a traditional Auction imo. Plenty of people fear BB though because they are afraid they are going to overpay(by a lot) but isn't that part of the fun? Strongly encourage you to at least try that route. I doubt very much you'll go back to serpentine afterwards. In my case it was also the most convenient because the people I was playing with were strewn across the country and had very different schedules as to when committing time to FF was convenient to them. That may not be a factor for you.

 

[boilerdave]

I play in most every kind of league. One of them is a blind bidding redraft that starts the year with 19 man rosters starting 1-3-3-1-1-1 (10) (TE reqd).

MFL site is located here

Rules link for ideas is located Rules here

It is a lot of fun but your entire year does sometimes hinge on those initial blind bids won and lost.

Great set of rules...seem to have every base covered...I'd like to join a league like this next year.Has anybody called Susan Locke yet?

 

[mashers]

We do the blind bid in our baseball league. Wouldn't change it for anything. In our draft we bid on the player and the highest bid gets him for that price. This is a little different from some leagues I've heard where if you have the high bid, you only pay $1 more than the second highest bid so you don't waste salary. Forget that! Yeah you sometimes overbid but that's the beauty of it. It's great watching a guy bid $40 on a player and the second highest bid is only $15. Yep, $25 down the drain. It's great.

 

[radballs]

Just a suggestion, but if you go this way with a blind bidding auction you may want to make the dollars $1,000 or more. With only $100 you'll end up with a lot of ties which could slow the draft down a lot. In a normal auction this isn't a concern because you can always increase your bid at least a dollar.

 

[BoltBacker]

Just a suggestion, but if you go this way with a blind bidding auction you may want to make the dollars $1,000 or more. With only $100 you'll end up with a lot of ties which could slow the draft down a lot. In a normal auction this isn't a concern because you can always increase your bid at least a dollar.

Great suggestion and ties were a big issue the first year we started BB. Ever since that first year we just switched to whatever the NFL was using that year ($105million or whatever fantasy dollars) and since then it's almost never an issue.

 

[steelerfan1]

thanks for all the responses guys. i will hope for the best, but the league i doubt goes for it.

 

[snapperhead]

we do it a little different.

We take the top 60 players as ranked by CBS. We open auction the first 30 players in random order and blind auction the next 30 (also in random order)

Cap is $100.

We then snake draft the rest of the rosters. Works great, tons of fun and we are not there all night long.

 

[einstein2u]

there has to be a better way. in my league guys with the top 5 picks made the playoffs.....helps to get LT, LJ. etc.

 

[Futility]

there has to be a better way. in my league guys with the top 5 picks made the playoffs.....helps to get LT, LJ. etc.

Sounds like your league was letting studs sell for cheap. Don't blame the system, blame the owners.

 

[einstein2u]

there has to be a better way. in my league guys with the top 5 picks made the playoffs.....helps to get LT, LJ. etc.

Sounds like your league was letting studs sell for cheap. Don't blame the system, blame the owners.

i meant something better than a serpentine draft.

 

[Penguin]

there has to be a better way. in my league guys with the top 5 picks made the playoffs.....helps to get LT, LJ. etc.

Sounds like your league was letting studs sell for cheap. Don't blame the system, blame the owners.

i meant something better than a serpentine draft.

Isn't that the point of this thread?

 

[noneother]

i run a blind draft salary cap/ contract league... love it.. one guy got Lj for 10 bucks outta one thousand three years ago... another got Pmanning this year for 26.... very cool scheme...

 

[I'm Rick James]

Does this sound like a decent or fun idea to anyone, or do you think it would be boring?Having a lot of leagues who have blind bidding for free agents during the season where you only have a set amount of cash to spend, do you think having a draft this way would be any fun?For example, on draft day, have $100 allowed to spend on a roster like an auction, but when a player gets put up all teams would mark down an amount and the owner who had the highest amount gets that player.The owners in my league don't want to switch to an auction type draft (We do serpentine now), but we handle the free agents by having only 20 bucks throughout the year and it is done by blind bidding on a player and they all seem to like that format, so I am trying to come up with something other than the same ole snake draft in hopes to get them away from it. Any feedback would be appreciated.

I've done BB several times and feel it's the best way to go. Takes a lot less time than a traditional Auction imo. Plenty of people fear BB though because they are afraid they are going to overpay(by a lot) but isn't that part of the fun? Strongly encourage you to at least try that route. I doubt very much you'll go back to serpentine afterwards. In my case it was also the most convenient because the people I was playing with were strewn across the country and had very different schedules as to when committing time to FF was convenient to them. That may not be a factor for you.

My league just went away from Auction this year and back to redraft (which we don't like) because everyone lives all across the country. And many of my friends have kids/wives --no more flying to vegas for the auction.What site do you use for blind bidding?

 

[noneother]

Does this sound like a decent or fun idea to anyone, or do you think it would be boring?Having a lot of leagues who have blind bidding for free agents during the season where you only have a set amount of cash to spend, do you think having a draft this way would be any fun?For example, on draft day, have $100 allowed to spend on a roster like an auction, but when a player gets put up all teams would mark down an amount and the owner who had the highest amount gets that player.The owners in my league don't want to switch to an auction type draft (We do serpentine now), but we handle the free agents by having only 20 bucks throughout the year and it is done by blind bidding on a player and they all seem to like that format, so I am trying to come up with something other than the same ole snake draft in hopes to get them away from it. Any feedback would be appreciated.

I've done BB several times and feel it's the best way to go. Takes a lot less time than a traditional Auction imo. Plenty of people fear BB though because they are afraid they are going to overpay(by a lot) but isn't that part of the fun? Strongly encourage you to at least try that route. I doubt very much you'll go back to serpentine afterwards. In my case it was also the most convenient because the people I was playing with were strewn across the country and had very different schedules as to when committing time to FF was convenient to them. That may not be a factor for you.

My league just went away from Auction this year and back to redraft (which we don't like) because everyone lives all across the country. And many of my friends have kids/wives --no more flying to vegas for the auction.What site do you use for blind bidding?

we manually track it...

 

[AussieOyOyOy]

Does anyone know of a site that offers this service? Sounds interesting.

 

[I'm Rick James]

if you manually track it (online) how do you keep from seeing other people's bids?

 

[noneother]

if you manually track it (online) how do you keep from seeing other people's bids?

we track it offline, we have two commissioners who have access to an third email account where bids are sent... once both commissioners have submitted their bids they then access the email account to review all the submissions and consolidate the offers

 

[I'm Rick James]

ah....that's a lot of trust for two people. But i guess you have to do it.

it would be cool if a site had a blind bidding feature. Everyone enters it in bid and then it comes up.

 

[BoltBacker]

if you manually track it (online) how do you keep from seeing other people's bids?

we track it offline, we have two commissioners who have access to an third email account where bids are sent... once both commissioners have submitted their bids they then access the email account to review all the submissions and consolidate the offers

Same system here, but you have to keep in mind it's a league that's been together for a long time so trust isn't that big an issue. We looked into a more mechanized system for blind-bidding with the pay-sites but a few years ago when we made the switch there wasn't anything offered. It's been working now for quite some time so we haven't checked lately to see if anything is available. They may have a blind-bidding system already available at MFL.

 

[GregR_2]

Someone on here a few years ago mentioned a different type of blind bidding. You submit an entire roster of players with bids for each player. All the bids are gone through and the highest bid for a player wins. If you are the only guy who put in a bid on a player you could get him for the minimum.

Not sure if I'd like that better than regular blind bidding or not. I can definitely say though, I much prefer regular bidding over blind bidding. The amount of guessing you have to do in blind bidding seems to me to require less skill than being able to directly affect other's bids and make them pay reasonable rates for their players.

 

[I'm Rick James]

because of time/location restraints, regular auction isn't an option for us anymore. Blind bidding seems like a better alternative than redraft.

We looked into the auction site (can't remember the name), but it couldn't handle having different users from the same IP address. They said they're working on it.

Let's say the chicago guys, l.a. guys, winston-salem guys want to get together for draft and use computer from same location, the auction site couldn't do that. With blind bidding and a third email address -- you could.

I wonder how hard it would be to create a blind bidding program/site? or if CBS sportsline could do it. that way there could be a ticking clock where people have to get their bids in.