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Bloom's all-steal NFL draft team - DEFENSE (1 Viewer)

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DT: Sione Pouha, Utah - Massive, Strong, Athletic, Has Character, and was the leader of his defense. Only questions about him are his age (26 because of a church mission) and some inconsistent play. Again, if the right coaching staff gets him and helps him use that 6'3" 330 frame to clog up the middle, he will be a perfect anchor in any defensive scheme. Anything past 6th or 7th DT is a steal of this man-mountain.DE: David Pollack, Georgia - I commented on him a lot in the first round mock draft thread. Classic "measurables arent perfect, but unstoppable on the field" player. He probably wont be the first DE off the board, but he'll be the best to come out of this draft. I see him having a Freeney-like impact on whatever team he goes to.ILB: Lance Mitchell, Oklahoma - see my comment in the mock draft 2nd/3rd round thread. He has everything you want in an MLB that is the leader of your defense, only question is an ACL tear from 2003 that he's not totally back from (yet). I have a feeling that once he's 100%, he'll be as good as derrick johnson. a steal if he's not the 4th LB off the board after johnson, crowder, and burnett.OLB: Demarcus Ware, Troy - Took over games at times this season. Ferocious pass rusher and sideline to sideline run stopper. Will be converted from a DE. Questions are about the level of competition at Troy and his rawness. Could be a monster playmaker as an OLB in a 3-4. Will be a steal if he's not the 4th or 5th OLB taken.S: Matt Grootegoed , USC - Again, the kind of guy I love, a leader and playmaker who will be knocked down because of subpar measureables and lack of polish in the skills that pro scouts love. Will have to be converted from LB to S, but has the desire and attitude to make the successful move. Will only contribute on special teams at first, but i think in 2 years, he will be a starting safety somewhere and an emotional leader of the defense he is part of. A steal of a second day pick.CB: Ronald Bartell, Howard - emerging small school DBs like Charles Tillman, Frank Walker, Ike Taylor, Rashean Mathis, and Terrence McGee are making me a believer in the idea that NFL CB skills are based on coaching and physical tools more than experience. Bartell had the gleam of a shutdown CB in college and has all the tools to be one, but he will probably not be in the top 10 CBs taken because of the level of competition and rawness (like ware above). It will take a few years of work, but the team that gets Bartell will be happier than at least half of the teams that take a CB in rounds 1 or 2.

 
DE Matt Roth is a guy that has a tremendous motor. He is a bit undersized, but he is the kind of player that will work hard and leave it all on the field on Sundays.

 
S James Butler out of Georgia Tech is a player that has looked good at the senior bowl and he has some upside.
ive seen butler projected as anywhere from the top 3 to 10th best S - seems like he's more a flat-out player than a guy with jaw-dropping measureables - definitely qualifies as a possible steal in my book.
 
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anyone have any defensive players to add to the list?
Robert McCune, ILB, Louisville.He same in just under 6'0" at the SR bowl.... 5-115 IIRC. But he's 245 and runs a 4.4, physique of an adonis. He's the real McCoy. Anyone in a 3-4 should be taking him in the 2nd RD. Great side-to-side coverage in the run game. Only thing I'm not sure on is the coverage skills. Hopefully we'll hear a little about that in the practice reports....
 
CB: Ronald Bartell, Howard - emerging small school DBs like Charles Tillman, Frank Walker, Ike Taylor, Rashean Mathis, and Terrence McGee are making me a believer in the idea that NFL CB skills are based on coaching and physical tools more than experience. Bartell had the gleam of a shutdown CB in college and has all the tools to be one, but he will probably not be in the top 10 CBs taken because of the level of competition and rawness (like ware above). It will take a few years of work, but the team that gets Bartell will be happier than at least half of the teams that take a CB in rounds 1 or 2.
From the notes in the Senior Bowl practices, Bartell is getting abused by Clayton (there's worse to get schooled by) the double moves that Clayton has are what most NFL receivers have. I see Bartell as a project pick used on special teams for 3 years and them might crack a starting D. I think he'll be more of a depth/dime player in the league.100% agree with Mitchell, I think he will have a great career in the NFL
 
CB: Ronald Bartell, Howard - emerging small school DBs like Charles Tillman, Frank Walker, Ike Taylor, Rashean Mathis, and Terrence McGee are making me a believer in the idea that NFL CB skills are based on coaching and physical tools more than experience. Bartell had the gleam of a shutdown CB in college and has all the tools to be one, but he will probably not be in the top 10 CBs taken because of the level of competition and rawness (like ware above). It will take a few years of work, but the team that gets Bartell will be happier than at least half of the teams that take a CB in rounds 1 or 2.
From the notes in the Senior Bowl practices, Bartell is getting abused by Clayton (there's worse to get schooled by) the double moves that Clayton has are what most NFL receivers have. I see Bartell as a project pick used on special teams for 3 years and them might crack a starting D. I think he'll be more of a depth/dime player in the league.100% agree with Mitchell, I think he will have a great career in the NFL
the key will be determining whether bartell is getting schooled because he's never seen someone make the double move that well, or if he's getting schooled because he just can't comprehend how to recognize and defend the double move. if he's coachable, he can be a shutdown CB - if he's not, then your assessment is right on.
 
anyone have any defensive players to add to the list?
Robert McCune, ILB, Louisville.He same in just under 6'0" at the SR bowl.... 5-115 IIRC. But he's 245 and runs a 4.4, physique of an adonis. He's the real McCoy. Anyone in a 3-4 should be taking him in the 2nd RD. Great side-to-side coverage in the run game. Only thing I'm not sure on is the coverage skills. Hopefully we'll hear a little about that in the practice reports....
Sounds a lot like Ed Hartwell..
 
Lofa Tatupu. I've seen him all over the place in mocks and rankings. The farther he goes, the better the value.

 
Lofa Tatupu. I've seen him all over the place in mocks and rankings. The farther he goes, the better the value.
Good point Bobcat.. I was just wondering why he's not been selected yet. I really like his value _right about now_
 
CB: Ronald Bartell, Howard - emerging small school DBs like Charles Tillman, Frank Walker, Ike Taylor, Rashean Mathis, and Terrence McGee are making me a believer in the idea that NFL CB skills are based on coaching and physical tools more than experience. Bartell had the gleam of a shutdown CB in college and has all the tools to be one, but he will probably not be in the top 10 CBs taken because of the level of competition and rawness (like ware above). It will take a few years of work, but the team that gets Bartell will be happier than at least half of the teams that take a CB in rounds 1 or 2.
From the notes in the Senior Bowl practices, Bartell is getting abused by Clayton (there's worse to get schooled by) the double moves that Clayton has are what most NFL receivers have. I see Bartell as a project pick used on special teams for 3 years and them might crack a starting D. I think he'll be more of a depth/dime player in the league.100% agree with Mitchell, I think he will have a great career in the NFL
the key will be determining whether bartell is getting schooled because he's never seen someone make the double move that well, or if he's getting schooled because he just can't comprehend how to recognize and defend the double move. if he's coachable, he can be a shutdown CB - if he's not, then your assessment is right on.
Even if he's a project pick, 6-1, 211 guys that run a 4.41 don't grow on trees. There's nothing wrong with giving him a year to learn the position. A guy with that much natural ability and who scored a 35 on the Wonderlic should be be able to become at least a good corner, if not great. At the very least he should be able to convert to safety and do very well.
 
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DE: David Pollack, Georgia - I commented on him a lot in the first round mock draft thread. Classic "measurables arent perfect, but unstoppable on the field" player. He probably wont be the first DE off the board, but he'll be the best to come out of this draft. I see him having a Freeney-like impact on whatever team he goes to.
Pollack obviously isn't a sleeper but I was looking over all the combine numbers yesterday and while his 40 time was average, his shuttle and cone times were unbelievable for a guy 275. I thought Roth was a comparable player but now I can see how Pollack is so good with his motor and short area quicks.Ware would fit great in Oakland if he slides to them.
 
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DE: David Pollack, Georgia - I commented on him a lot in the first round mock draft thread. Classic "measurables arent perfect, but unstoppable on the field" player. He probably wont be the first DE off the board, but he'll be the best to come out of this draft. I see him having a Freeney-like impact on whatever team he goes to.
Pollack obviously isn't a sleeper but I was looking over all the combine numbers yesterday and while his 40 time was average, his shuttle and cone times were unbelievable for a guy 275. I thought Roth was a comparable player but now I can see how Pollack is so good with his motor and short area quicks.Ware would fit great in Oakland if he slides to them.
 
WEll the new DB sleeper turned low 1st RD projection is

Fabian Washington, Nebraska, 5-10 189

Combine numbers are followed by their rank in the last 4 years ('02-05)

40: 4.27 (#1 - only time under 4.30 in last 4 years! - ANY position)

Vertical: 41 1/2 (T#13 over last 4 yrs, 4th best amongst '05 CBs, 8th best all positions in '05 :eek: )

Bench: 18 (#5 amongst '05 CBs)

LJ: 10'9" (T#4 amongst '05 CBs)

Shuttle: 3.96 (#8 amongst '05 CBs)

3-Cone: 6.98 (T#10 amongst '05 CBs)

Wonderlic: 25 (T#4 for '05 CBs)

He's a 3 year starter (started as a true FR) at Nebraska. Lined up against Roy Williams, Rahaun Woods, and the rest of the Big XII's best WRs. He's seen plenty of skilled competition.

Kiper was on ESPN Radio yesterday and basically said Fabian has moved up from the #10/11 CB to #5 and is likely a late first RD pick.

 
looks like ware wont be a steal for anyone - he's looking like a top 15 pick.i still think pollack is going to be a star and outperform all the DEs taken before him, including merriman.Bartell could be one of the top 2 or 3 CBs out of this draft down the line if the right team takes him - here's hoping its the steelerspouha, mitchell, and grootegoed are going to make their teams extremely happy - natural leaders, gamers, and guys who will contribute in any way they can.ill be adding a few more as the draft gets closer.

 
looks like ware wont be a steal for anyone - he's looking like a top 15 pick.

i still think pollack is going to be a star and outperform all the DEs taken before him, including merriman.

Bartell could be one of the top 2 or 3 CBs out of this draft down the line if the right team takes him - here's hoping its the steelers

pouha, mitchell, and grootegoed are going to make their teams extremely happy - natural leaders, gamers, and guys who will contribute in any way they can.

ill be adding a few more as the draft gets closer.
Pollack is a hard worker, but just doesn't have the ability to be the feared pass rusher than most teams want. Merriman does and once he works on his technique he will be one of the top DE's in the NFL. Pollack can be solid, but I don't see him becoming a dominant player.
 
i still think pollack is going to be a star and outperform all the DEs taken before him, including merriman.
I definitely agree with this. Being a Dallas Cowboys fan, I hope that they don't take Merriman/trade out of the 11 spot and take David Pollack instead.Nice article on David Pollack.

Clip from the article, For every Mamula or Courtney Brown or Jamal Reynolds -- guys who nail workouts and skyrocket up draft boards -- there aren't nearly enough David Pollacks: guys who don't necessarily fit the prototype but will drain every ounce of energy every time they step on the field.

Right After his last season at Maryland ended, Merriman was what a 3rd round pick at best, now all of a sudden, he may be taken 3rd overall! Guys who nail workouts and skyrocket up draft boards, sound familiar? Shawne Merriman fans beware!

 
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one more:Mike Patterson, DT, USC - perfect as a 4-3 DT or a 3-4 DE. overshadowed by shaun cody, but may end up being the better player.

 
i still think pollack is going to be a star and outperform all the DEs taken before him, including merriman.
I definitely agree with this. Being a Dallas Cowboys fan, I hope that they don't take Merriman/trade out of the 11 spot and take David Pollack instead.Nice article on David Pollack.

Clip from the article, For every Mamula or Courtney Brown or Jamal Reynolds -- guys who nail workouts and skyrocket up draft boards -- there aren't nearly enough David Pollacks: guys who don't necessarily fit the prototype but will drain every ounce of energy every time they step on the field.

Right After his last season at Maryland ended, Merriman was what a 3rd round pick at best, now all of a sudden, he may be taken 3rd overall! Guys who nail workouts and skyrocket up draft boards, sound familiar? Shawne Merriman fans beware!
Mmm, ok. :lmao: Bloom and Joe Kidd = :own3d:

Really I brought this up to illustrate that there's more than workouts to look at when evaluating players, but it does matter a lot.

 
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i still think pollack is going to be a star and outperform all the DEs taken before him, including merriman.
I definitely agree with this. Being a Dallas Cowboys fan, I hope that they don't take Merriman/trade out of the 11 spot and take David Pollack instead.Nice article on David Pollack.

Clip from the article, For every Mamula or Courtney Brown or Jamal Reynolds -- guys who nail workouts and skyrocket up draft boards -- there aren't nearly enough David Pollacks: guys who don't necessarily fit the prototype but will drain every ounce of energy every time they step on the field.

Right After his last season at Maryland ended, Merriman was what a 3rd round pick at best, now all of a sudden, he may be taken 3rd overall! Guys who nail workouts and skyrocket up draft boards, sound familiar? Shawne Merriman fans beware!
Mmm, ok. :lmao: Bloom and Joe Kidd = :own3d:

Really I brought this up to illustrate that there's more than workouts to look at when evaluating players, but it does matter a lot.
In my defense, I didn't expect Pollack to be shifted to SLB. going from DE to 3-4 OLB is easier b/c you are pretty much a DE on passing downs anyway. But its clear that Merriman is the better player.At least I nailed Ware back in January 05, when he was even in shouting distance of the first round.

 
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hit or miss, I credit Bloom for puttin his opinion out there and doing it before the masses. Keep up the great work Bloom. :thumbup:

 
I hope Pouha comes through... Didn't get a ton of playing time last year and the Jets need inside beef.

Edit to add - I Was shocked when he went in the 3rd though BRADWAY.

 
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