Blueprint Juice Diet (4 Viewers)

[Otis]

Funny.

 

[bushdocda]

Clocked about 1k calories today. Suck it BostonPhil.

Seems very unhealthy to only eat 1k in a day.

Depends on what you're eating. If you're eating 1k calories of mostly vegetables with some meat in there you're fine. If you're eating 1k calories of bagels you're not getting enough nutrients.

I feel great. Big salad for lunch. Followed by a Greek yogurt. Some coffee and chewing gum in between. Some chicken and broccoli for dinner. Health shop ginger snap cookies for dessert. Lots of water. Not that hard. Didn't reslly get hungry and was too busy most of the day to think about it. Hardest part was standing over the liquor cabinet when I got home and not cracking a bottle of wine.

Wow you've quickly become an expert at this.

 

[Otis]

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[moleculo]

Clocked about 1k calories today. Suck it BostonPhil.

Seems very unhealthy to only eat 1k in a day.

Depends on what you're eating. If you're eating 1k calories of mostly vegetables with some meat in there you're fine. If you're eating 1k calories of bagels you're not getting enough nutrients.

I feel great. Big salad for lunch. Followed by a Greek yogurt. Some coffee and chewing gum in between. Some chicken and broccoli for dinner. Health shop ginger snap cookies for dessert. Lots of water. Not that hard. Didn't reslly get hungry and was too busy most of the day to think about it. Hardest part was standing over the liquor cabinet when I got home and not cracking a bottle of wine.

good stuff here. This is a sustainable diet. Keep this up, and you will loose weight.IMO, a good weight loss target is no more than a pound or two a week. It might take a few months to see results, but you will have a better chance to make the change permanent if you can do it slowly and consistently.

 

[NCCommish]

I threw a mango, a pear, a big handful of grapes, half a cucumber, a kiwi, and a whole bunch of spinach in the blender, splitting it with the wife for dinner. A lot of sugar, but damn tasty. #aboutme

For you people who know this stuff: Does the fruit/vegetables blended "count" as good, or just sugar? I'm assuming its good, but also assumed fruit juice would be good for you. My wife has a $500 blender (yes, seriously) and I eat a lot of smoothies.

It's got all the original fruit in there, I assume it hits my system a little faster because I don't chew quite as well as the blender, but that doesn't freak me out. Got my wife a vitamix for Christmas and she's been buying fruit for them at Costco. Me too.

Vitamixbro, hifive. Only I was not smart enough to make it a Christmas gift. Got pressured with the fact that she has never actually asked me for anything expensive before and had to go for it.

Really enjoying the smoothies, good to hear they are as good for me as I hoped. We may need a smoothies thread to discuss healthy stuff to put in there.

Here what Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn of the Cleveland Clinic says about smoothies:

“Avoid smoothies. The fiber is so finely pureed that its helpful properties are destroyed. The sugar is stripped from the fruit, bypasses salivary digestion and results in a surge of glucose and the accompanying fructose contributes to inflammation and hypertension.”

Just eat the fruit the way nature and your digestive system meant for you to.

 

[Hang 10]

Bought me a juicer yesterday. I KNOW I don't eat enough veggies, so Ima drink em instead.

 

[E-Z Glider]

Here what Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn of the Cleveland Clinic says about smoothies:

“Avoid smoothies. The fiber is so finely pureed that its helpful properties are destroyed. The sugar is stripped from the fruit, bypasses salivary digestion and results in a surge of glucose and the accompanying fructose contributes to inflammation and hypertension.”

Just eat the fruit the way nature and your digestive system meant for you to.

if smoothies are bad for you, i officially give up

 

[NCCommish]

Here what Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn of the Cleveland Clinic says about smoothies:

“Avoid smoothies. The fiber is so finely pureed that its helpful properties are destroyed. The sugar is stripped from the fruit, bypasses salivary digestion and results in a surge of glucose and the accompanying fructose contributes to inflammation and hypertension.”

Just eat the fruit the way nature and your digestive system meant for you to.

if smoothies are bad for you, i officially give up

Or you could try going without the shortcut and you know actually eat an apple. It just like those stupid supplement drinks for seniors. They are meant for people who can't chew or have other problems eating. They are not meant for people who are healthy and can get regular food in their diet. But you see them advertised as if they are for everyone. Smoothies are probably better than nothing if you can't eat normally but if you can they are a shortcut that robs you of most of what is actually good about what you put in the blender. Otherwise they are a nice cool drink on a hot day with little nutritional value.

 

[Chaka]

Clocked about 1k calories today. Suck it BostonPhil.

Seems very unhealthy to only eat 1k in a day.

Depends on what you're eating. If you're eating 1k calories of mostly vegetables with some meat in there you're fine. If you're eating 1k calories of bagels you're not getting enough nutrients.

Anything below 1,500 is to low unless prescribed by a doctor

On a regular basis you might be correct but occasional caloric restriction or intermittent fasting is actually quite good for you. I ate 516 calories for the day, including two glasses of red wine and omega 3 fish oil supplements (the rest was Brazil nuts and natto). I do at least one day/week of at least 12 waking hours fasting. Here is a good write up on the benefits of IF with links to a lot of primary research articles on the topic.

when you speak of fasting, are you talking about an actual absence of food for a day, or something like your 500c day?

Typically I eat a serving of natto, 3 Brazil nuts, 1 tsp Carlsons cod liver oil and 1 tsp of Barlean's fish oil around 7am on Monday (also take vitamin C & magnesium) and then don't eat again until around 7 am on Tuesday.

 

[Chaka]

Clocked about 1k calories today. Suck it BostonPhil.

Seems very unhealthy to only eat 1k in a day.

Depends on what you're eating. If you're eating 1k calories of mostly vegetables with some meat in there you're fine. If you're eating 1k calories of bagels you're not getting enough nutrients.

Anything below 1,500 is to low unless prescribed by a doctor

On a regular basis you might be correct but occasional caloric restriction or intermittent fasting is actually quite good for you. I ate 516 calories for the day, including two glasses of red wine and omega 3 fish oil supplements (the rest was Brazil nuts and natto). I do at least one day/week of at least 12 waking hours fasting. Here is a good write up on the benefits of IF with links to a lot of primary research articles on the topic.

Even then I think getting enough quality calories is important. Mark touches on it here.

Your hesitance is understandable, as caloric restriction has long been associated with bone loss, likely due to the reduction in circulating IGF-1 (insulin like growth factor 1) levels. Since intermittent fasting does not appear to have the same effect on IGF-1 levels, however, I’d imagine it’s pretty safe for bone health. Just make sure you’re eating enough calories when you do eat (the IF rodents in the study did not reduce calories overall)

I'm sure it's not going to hurt you fitness on occasion but calories are still important. I have used the Leangains fasting method then moved to the Eat when and have stayed there. I still eat 2,000-3,000 calories a day and have maintained with out much effort.

Not sure if you agree or disagree with this from your post but I am pretty sure he is saying to get enough calories on the non-fasting days. Doesn't make sense otherwise. And I agree with him and you.

 

[Keerock]

Clocked about 1k calories today. Suck it BostonPhil.

Seems very unhealthy to only eat 1k in a day.

Depends on what you're eating. If you're eating 1k calories of mostly vegetables with some meat in there you're fine. If you're eating 1k calories of bagels you're not getting enough nutrients.

Anything below 1,500 is to low unless prescribed by a doctor

On a regular basis you might be correct but occasional caloric restriction or intermittent fasting is actually quite good for you. I ate 516 calories for the day, including two glasses of red wine and omega 3 fish oil supplements (the rest was Brazil nuts and natto). I do at least one day/week of at least 12 waking hours fasting. Here is a good write up on the benefits of IF with links to a lot of primary research articles on the topic.

when you speak of fasting, are you talking about an actual absence of food for a day, or something like your 500c day?

Typically I eat a serving of natto, 3 Brazil nuts, 1 tsp Carlsons cod liver oil and 1 tsp of Barlean's fish oil around 7am on Monday (also take vitamin C & magnesium) and then don't eat again until around 7 am on Tuesday.

 

[Chaka]

Here what Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn of the Cleveland Clinic says about smoothies:

"Avoid smoothies. The fiber is so finely pureed that its helpful properties are destroyed. The sugar is stripped from the fruit, bypasses salivary digestion and results in a surge of glucose and the accompanying fructose contributes to inflammation and hypertension."

Just eat the fruit the way nature and your digestive system meant for you to.

if smoothies are bad for you, i officially give up

Esselstyn is a bit of a quack in his own right but I tend to agree with him on that one. Blended smoothies are almost certainly better than juicers that remove pulp but smoothies probably increase the rate of sugar absorption and lead to a greater insulin spike than if you had merely eaten the fruits and veggies in their natural state. Although I do not have any primary scientific research to back that one up.

 

[Chaka]

Clocked about 1k calories today. Suck it BostonPhil.

Seems very unhealthy to only eat 1k in a day.

Depends on what you're eating. If you're eating 1k calories of mostly vegetables with some meat in there you're fine. If you're eating 1k calories of bagels you're not getting enough nutrients.

Anything below 1,500 is to low unless prescribed by a doctor

On a regular basis you might be correct but occasional caloric restriction or intermittent fasting is actually quite good for you. I ate 516 calories for the day, including two glasses of red wine and omega 3 fish oil supplements (the rest was Brazil nuts and natto). I do at least one day/week of at least 12 waking hours fasting. Here is a good write up on the benefits of IF with links to a lot of primary research articles on the topic.

when you speak of fasting, are you talking about an actual absence of food for a day, or something like your 500c day?

Typically I eat a serving of natto, 3 Brazil nuts, 1 tsp Carlsons cod liver oil and 1 tsp of Barlean's fish oil around 7am on Monday (also take vitamin C & magnesium) and then don't eat again until around 7 am on Tuesday.

It's really not difficult. People have this crazy notion that going a day without food is some kind of grand task, I get looks all the time when I tell people that I do 24 hour fasts almost every week. The typical response is something like "
"It's not that hard and I always feel better physically and mentally when I do them.

 

[Wrigley]

Clocked about 1k calories today. Suck it BostonPhil.

Seems very unhealthy to only eat 1k in a day.

Depends on what you're eating. If you're eating 1k calories of mostly vegetables with some meat in there you're fine. If you're eating 1k calories of bagels you're not getting enough nutrients.

Anything below 1,500 is to low unless prescribed by a doctor

On a regular basis you might be correct but occasional caloric restriction or intermittent fasting is actually quite good for you. I ate 516 calories for the day, including two glasses of red wine and omega 3 fish oil supplements (the rest was Brazil nuts and natto). I do at least one day/week of at least 12 waking hours fasting. Here is a good write up on the benefits of IF with links to a lot of primary research articles on the topic.

when you speak of fasting, are you talking about an actual absence of food for a day, or something like your 500c day?

Typically I eat a serving of natto, 3 Brazil nuts, 1 tsp Carlsons cod liver oil and 1 tsp of Barlean's fish oil around 7am on Monday (also take vitamin C & magnesium) and then don't eat again until around 7 am on Tuesday.

It's really not difficult. People have this crazy notion that going a day without food is some kind of grand task, I get looks all the time when I tell people that I do 24 hour fasts almost every week. The typical response is something like "

I've been intermittent fasting for about a month now. leangainsagreed, not difficult

 

[Keerock]

Clocked about 1k calories today. Suck it BostonPhil.

Seems very unhealthy to only eat 1k in a day.

Depends on what you're eating. If you're eating 1k calories of mostly vegetables with some meat in there you're fine. If you're eating 1k calories of bagels you're not getting enough nutrients.

Anything below 1,500 is to low unless prescribed by a doctor

On a regular basis you might be correct but occasional caloric restriction or intermittent fasting is actually quite good for you. I ate 516 calories for the day, including two glasses of red wine and omega 3 fish oil supplements (the rest was Brazil nuts and natto). I do at least one day/week of at least 12 waking hours fasting. Here is a good write up on the benefits of IF with links to a lot of primary research articles on the topic.

when you speak of fasting, are you talking about an actual absence of food for a day, or something like your 500c day?

Typically I eat a serving of natto, 3 Brazil nuts, 1 tsp Carlsons cod liver oil and 1 tsp of Barlean's fish oil around 7am on Monday (also take vitamin C & magnesium) and then don't eat again until around 7 am on Tuesday.

It's really not difficult. People have this crazy notion that going a day without food is some kind of grand task, I get looks all the time when I tell people that I do 24 hour fasts almost every week. The typical response is something like "

I'd like to try it, but man does it sound daunting...

 

[12punch]

Would it ruin it if i added a 4th brazil nut?

 

[Slapdash]

Here what Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn of the Cleveland Clinic says about smoothies:

"Avoid smoothies. The fiber is so finely pureed that its helpful properties are destroyed. The sugar is stripped from the fruit, bypasses salivary digestion and results in a surge of glucose and the accompanying fructose contributes to inflammation and hypertension."

Just eat the fruit the way nature and your digestive system meant for you to.

if smoothies are bad for you, i officially give up

Esselstyn is a bit of a quack in his own right but I tend to agree with him on that one. Blended smoothies are almost certainly better than juicers that remove pulp but smoothies probably increase the rate of sugar absorption and lead to a greater insulin spike than if you had merely eaten the fruits and veggies in their natural state. Although I do not have any primary scientific research to back that one up.

Nature always pairs sugar with fiber so it is a good thing to do it that way yourself, IMO. The amount of sugar in some of the things I have seen here is way too much. I like smoothies but only put a little bit of friut to go along with my coco-almond milk, protien powder, and almond butter. Last night it was just a small banana and avacado.

 

[E-Z Glider]

Clocked about 1k calories today. Suck it BostonPhil.

Seems very unhealthy to only eat 1k in a day.

Depends on what you're eating. If you're eating 1k calories of mostly vegetables with some meat in there you're fine. If you're eating 1k calories of bagels you're not getting enough nutrients.

Anything below 1,500 is to low unless prescribed by a doctor

On a regular basis you might be correct but occasional caloric restriction or intermittent fasting is actually quite good for you. I ate 516 calories for the day, including two glasses of red wine and omega 3 fish oil supplements (the rest was Brazil nuts and natto). I do at least one day/week of at least 12 waking hours fasting. Here is a good write up on the benefits of IF with links to a lot of primary research articles on the topic.

when you speak of fasting, are you talking about an actual absence of food for a day, or something like your 500c day?

Typically I eat a serving of natto, 3 Brazil nuts, 1 tsp Carlsons cod liver oil and 1 tsp of Barlean's fish oil around 7am on Monday (also take vitamin C & magnesium) and then don't eat again until around 7 am on Tuesday.

It's really not difficult. People have this crazy notion that going a day without food is some kind of grand task

Oat lasted 10 hours and it sounded like he was going through heroin withdrawal.

 

[Chaka]

Would it ruin it if i added a 4th brazil nut?

Don't want to overdo it on the selenium.

 

[Chaka]

Clocked about 1k calories today. Suck it BostonPhil.

Seems very unhealthy to only eat 1k in a day.

Depends on what you're eating. If you're eating 1k calories of mostly vegetables with some meat in there you're fine. If you're eating 1k calories of bagels you're not getting enough nutrients.

Anything below 1,500 is to low unless prescribed by a doctor

On a regular basis you might be correct but occasional caloric restriction or intermittent fasting is actually quite good for you. I ate 516 calories for the day, including two glasses of red wine and omega 3 fish oil supplements (the rest was Brazil nuts and natto). I do at least one day/week of at least 12 waking hours fasting. Here is a good write up on the benefits of IF with links to a lot of primary research articles on the topic.

when you speak of fasting, are you talking about an actual absence of food for a day, or something like your 500c day?

Typically I eat a serving of natto, 3 Brazil nuts, 1 tsp Carlsons cod liver oil and 1 tsp of Barlean's fish oil around 7am on Monday (also take vitamin C & magnesium) and then don't eat again until around 7 am on Tuesday.

It's really not difficult. People have this crazy notion that going a day without food is some kind of grand task

Oat lasted 10 hours and it sounded like he was going through heroin withdrawal.

That was the coffee withdrawal. Nothing wrong with coffee while IF.

 

[Chaka]

It's really not difficult. People have this crazy notion that going a day without food is some kind of grand task, I get looks all the time when I tell people that I do 24 hour fasts almost every week. The typical response is something like "

You will get hungry and it will pass. The harder you make it in your head the more difficult it will be for you.

 

[Keerock]

It's really not difficult. People have this crazy notion that going a day without food is some kind of grand task, I get looks all the time when I tell people that I do 24 hour fasts almost every week. The typical response is something like "

Why do you do it? Weight loss/maintenance? Cleansing effect? Just makes you feel better? What's the science/thinking behind your natto, nuts and oil concoction the morning of your fast?

 

[Statcruncher]

What's the science/thinking behind your natto, nuts and oil concoction the morning of your fast?

I'm guessing eating natto makes you lose your appetite for a long time.

 

[Chaka]

It's really not difficult. People have this crazy notion that going a day without food is some kind of grand task, I get looks all the time when I tell people that I do 24 hour fasts almost every week. The typical response is something like "

Here is a good write up on the subject.You can find a lot more on the MDA website doing a search for "intermittent fasting."

 

[Otis]

natto is so awful. I almost threw up the one time I tried it on a dare

 

[Slapdash]

Do we have an updated scale pic?

 

[Chaka]

What's the science/thinking behind your natto, nuts and oil concoction the morning of your fast?

I'm guessing eating natto makes you lose your appetite for a long time.

Natto is a fermented soybean dish that has tons of vitamin K2, selenium, tons of probiotic bacteria (good for gut health) and an enzyme called nattokinase which is a blood thinner that is alleged to help reduce cholesterol and improve cardiovascular health.And yes, I think it also helps me not get hungry as easily because of the probiotic bacteria but that may just be me. I eat it pretty much every day.Brazil nuts I eat for the selenium.I use the Carlson's for vitamins D & E as well as omega 3s.I use the Barleans fish oil for the omega 3s.

 

[Chaka]

natto is so awful. I almost threw up the one time I tried it on a dare

I would have thought it was a life and death experience for you.Yeah it is pretty nasty looking and doesn't smell very good either but I think it is pretty much bland and flavorless. Many of the packs of natto come with spicy mustard and some kind of sweet sauce. I use the mustard.

 

[Chaka]

Do we have an updated scale pic?

 

[Chase Stuart]

I had a kale salad today. Kale is awesome for things like salads and stir-fry dishes. I assume it's way healthier than regular lettuce, and I actually think it tastes better, too.

 

[NCCommish]

Here what Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn of the Cleveland Clinic says about smoothies:

"Avoid smoothies. The fiber is so finely pureed that its helpful properties are destroyed. The sugar is stripped from the fruit, bypasses salivary digestion and results in a surge of glucose and the accompanying fructose contributes to inflammation and hypertension."

Just eat the fruit the way nature and your digestive system meant for you to.

if smoothies are bad for you, i officially give up

Esselstyn is a bit of a quack in his own right but I tend to agree with him on that one. Blended smoothies are almost certainly better than juicers that remove pulp but smoothies probably increase the rate of sugar absorption and lead to a greater insulin spike than if you had merely eaten the fruits and veggies in their natural state. Although I do not have any primary scientific research to back that one up.

Quack? He was President of the Staff and a member of the Board of Governors at Cleveland Clinic. He was President of the American Association of Endocrine Surgeons. And he is currently a member of the Scientific Advisory Board of Nutrition Action magazine. I am going to guess he is much less of a quack than all that.But hey I like a good smoothie. I just don't try to convince myself in the face of all evidence to the contrary that it is anything more than a good drink for a hot day.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

I had a kale salad today. Kale is awesome for things like salads and stir-fry dishes. I assume it's way healthier than regular lettuce, and I actually think it tastes better, too.

supposedly, it is healthier than regular lettuce, especially if you mean iceberg.I think the darker the color, or the more colorful, the better stuff is for you.have you had that baked kale, or whatever it is, where it gets all dried and crispy?that stuff's awesome.

 

[bigbottom]

Here what Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn of the Cleveland Clinic says about smoothies:

"Avoid smoothies. The fiber is so finely pureed that its helpful properties are destroyed. The sugar is stripped from the fruit, bypasses salivary digestion and results in a surge of glucose and the accompanying fructose contributes to inflammation and hypertension."

Just eat the fruit the way nature and your digestive system meant for you to.

if smoothies are bad for you, i officially give up

Esselstyn is a bit of a quack in his own right but I tend to agree with him on that one. Blended smoothies are almost certainly better than juicers that remove pulp but smoothies probably increase the rate of sugar absorption and lead to a greater insulin spike than if you had merely eaten the fruits and veggies in their natural state. Although I do not have any primary scientific research to back that one up.

Quack? He was President of the Staff and a member of the Board of Governors at Cleveland Clinic. He was President of the American Association of Endocrine Surgeons. And he is currently a member of the Scientific Advisory Board of Nutrition Action magazine. I am going to guess he is much less of a quack than all that.But hey I like a good smoothie. I just don't try to convince myself in the face of all evidence to the contrary that it is anything more than a good drink for a hot day.

Well there's a short quote from a doctor who supposedly is pretty knowledgable in the subject. That's not really a mountain of evidence that vegetable and fruit shakes have little nutritional value.Edit: I'm not a shake guy, so I have no dog in this fight. Just saying that more is needed before one can claim your assertion as fact.

 

[12punch]

That guy sounded like he was more down on fruit smoothies than anything else

 

[Statcruncher]

Here what Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn of the Cleveland Clinic says about smoothies:

"Avoid smoothies. The fiber is so finely pureed that its helpful properties are destroyed. The sugar is stripped from the fruit, bypasses salivary digestion and results in a surge of glucose and the accompanying fructose contributes to inflammation and hypertension."

Just eat the fruit the way nature and your digestive system meant for you to.

if smoothies are bad for you, i officially give up

Esselstyn is a bit of a quack in his own right but I tend to agree with him on that one. Blended smoothies are almost certainly better than juicers that remove pulp but smoothies probably increase the rate of sugar absorption and lead to a greater insulin spike than if you had merely eaten the fruits and veggies in their natural state. Although I do not have any primary scientific research to back that one up.

Quack? He was President of the Staff and a member of the Board of Governors at Cleveland Clinic. He was President of the American Association of Endocrine Surgeons. And he is currently a member of the Scientific Advisory Board of Nutrition Action magazine. I am going to guess he is much less of a quack than all that.But hey I like a good smoothie. I just don't try to convince myself in the face of all evidence to the contrary that it is anything more than a good drink for a hot day.

Well there's a short quote from a doctor who supposedly is pretty knowledgable in the subject. That's not really a mountain of evidence that vegetable and fruit shakes have little nutritional value.Edit: I'm not a shake guy, so I have no dog in this fight. Just saying that more is needed before one can claim your assertion as fact.

Sorry NCComish, the guy does sound like a bit of a quack. I'm not saying he's is a quack, but he seems on the fringe in my uneducated opinion. Then again, he may be cutting edge ahead of everyone else. Here's some quotes from his website heartattackproof.com where he hawks his wares to prevent and reverse heart disease:

He and his wife adopted a plant-based diet, cutting out oil, meat, fish, fowl and dairy.

Dr. Esselstyn and his wife, Ann Crile Esselstyn, have followed a plant-based diet for more than 26 years.



Why does the diet eliminate oil entirely?

NO OIL! Not even olive oil, which goes against a lot of other advice out there about so-called good fats. The reality is that oils are extremely low in terms of nutritive value. They contain no fiber, no minerals and are 100% fat calories. And above all they contain saturated fat which immediately injures the endothelial lining of the arteries when eaten. It doesn't matter whether it's olive oil, corn oil, or any other kind of oil. You should not consume any oil if you have heart disease. This is so important I have detailed oil in Chapter 10.

Egg whites, fat free milk, yogurt – So What is wrong with egg whites, fat free yogurt, skim milk?

Egg whites, fat free milk and yogurt are ALL animal protein, and animal protein injures the lining of the arteries. Do not eat.

Protein - Where do I get my protein / What protein drink is best?

Extra protein powder and shakes are truly unnecessary and have the potential for harm if they contain animal protein. The protein available through plant-based nutrition is adequate to nourish professional champion athletes such as the iron man, professional football, mixed martial arts, track and field, etc.

Olive oil, canola oil, coconut oil, Sunflower oil, soybean oil, peanut oil, any oil –

Which oil is best?

Avoid oils. They injure the endothelium, the innermost lining of the artery, and that injury is the gateway to vascular disease.

I thought we were all past the fat is bad phase. I guess his interpretation of the China study was clouded by his association with Cambell.

 

[Otis]

Sup fatties.

 

[proninja]

Here what Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn of the Cleveland Clinic says about smoothies:

"Avoid smoothies. The fiber is so finely pureed that its helpful properties are destroyed. The sugar is stripped from the fruit, bypasses salivary digestion and results in a surge of glucose and the accompanying fructose contributes to inflammation and hypertension."

Just eat the fruit the way nature and your digestive system meant for you to.

if smoothies are bad for you, i officially give up

Or you could try going without the shortcut and you know actually eat an apple. It just like those stupid supplement drinks for seniors. They are meant for people who can't chew or have other problems eating. They are not meant for people who are healthy and can get regular food in their diet. But you see them advertised as if they are for everyone. Smoothies are probably better than nothing if you can't eat normally but if you can they are a shortcut that robs you of most of what is actually good about what you put in the blender. Otherwise they are a nice cool drink on a hot day with little nutritional value.

Right, so all the kale, cabbage, spinach, chia seed, and fruit I ate this morning has very little nutritional value since I whizzed it up in a blender before I ate it instead of chewing it?Totally get that the sugar is going to hit my system a little faster since the blender already does some of the digestion work, but "little nutritional value" seems pretty ridiculous.

 

[proninja]

I guess his interpretation of the China study was clouded by his association with Cambell.

This. The guy isn't that credible, he's the nutritional equivalent of a partisan hack. He's so invested in the "animal products are bad" community he can't back out. I don't trust the guy.

 

[proninja]

Sup fatties.

 

[Chaka]

Here what Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn of the Cleveland Clinic says about smoothies:

"Avoid smoothies. The fiber is so finely pureed that its helpful properties are destroyed. The sugar is stripped from the fruit, bypasses salivary digestion and results in a surge of glucose and the accompanying fructose contributes to inflammation and hypertension."

Just eat the fruit the way nature and your digestive system meant for you to.

if smoothies are bad for you, i officially give up

Esselstyn is a bit of a quack in his own right but I tend to agree with him on that one. Blended smoothies are almost certainly better than juicers that remove pulp but smoothies probably increase the rate of sugar absorption and lead to a greater insulin spike than if you had merely eaten the fruits and veggies in their natural state. Although I do not have any primary scientific research to back that one up.

Quack? He was President of the Staff and a member of the Board of Governors at Cleveland Clinic. He was President of the American Association of Endocrine Surgeons. And he is currently a member of the Scientific Advisory Board of Nutrition Action magazine. I am going to guess he is much less of a quack than all that.But hey I like a good smoothie. I just don't try to convince myself in the face of all evidence to the contrary that it is anything more than a good drink for a hot day.

I know he is highly regarded but his sweeping condemnations of all forms of animal protein are based on an extremely limited amount of research that focused on one small dairy protein type. I consider his statements in that regard, and his stance against all forms of oil, to not only be quackery and irresponsible but bordering on malfeasance.

 

[proninja]

But hey I like a good smoothie. I just don't try to convince myself in the face of all evidence to the contrary that it is anything more than a good drink for a hot day.

I must have missed this. Link?

 

[DrJ]

See, you're all going to die. Twinkie protein > animal protein because it comes from corn.

 

[DrJ]

Here what Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn of the Cleveland Clinic says about smoothies:

"Avoid smoothies. The fiber is so finely pureed that its helpful properties are destroyed. The sugar is stripped from the fruit, bypasses salivary digestion and results in a surge of glucose and the accompanying fructose contributes to inflammation and hypertension."

Just eat the fruit the way nature and your digestive system meant for you to.

if smoothies are bad for you, i officially give up

Esselstyn is a bit of a quack in his own right but I tend to agree with him on that one. Blended smoothies are almost certainly better than juicers that remove pulp but smoothies probably increase the rate of sugar absorption and lead to a greater insulin spike than if you had merely eaten the fruits and veggies in their natural state. Although I do not have any primary scientific research to back that one up.

Quack? He was President of the Staff and a member of the Board of Governors at Cleveland Clinic. He was President of the American Association of Endocrine Surgeons. And he is currently a member of the Scientific Advisory Board of Nutrition Action magazine. I am going to guess he is much less of a quack than all that.But hey I like a good smoothie. I just don't try to convince myself in the face of all evidence to the contrary that it is anything more than a good drink for a hot day.

I know he is highly regarded but his sweeping condemnations of all forms of animal protein are based on an extremely limited amount of research that focused on one small dairy protein type. I consider his statements in that regard, and his stance against all forms of oil, to not only be quackery and irresponsible but bordering on malfeasance.

And to think, people actually pay him for this information when there's a bunch of message board guys that know exactly what's up in terms of diet down to the exact particle of selenium.

 

[DrJ]

So Otis, how long has it been since you had a nice juicy cheeseburger?

 

[Otis]

So Otis, how long has it been since you had a nice juicy cheeseburger?

Hard to say. Been a while. That said, I'm good. Wife cracked some red wine tonight. Even had some baked whole wheat chips and salsa. Cruising through a delicious cut of salmon and some asparagus right now. May move onto wine glass #2. It's that good. And I was at about 400 calories on the day till I got home... SUCK IT CHUBBY NERDS

 

[DrJ]

So Otis, how long has it been since you had a nice juicy cheeseburger?

Hard to say. Been a while. That said, I'm good. Wife cracked some red wine tonight. Even had some baked whole wheat chips and salsa. Cruising through a delicious cut of salmon and some asparagus right now. May move onto wine glass #2. It's that good. And I was at about 400 calories on the day till I got home... SUCK IT CHUBBY NERDS

I'm sure it's easy to stay under 1000 calories when things you eat mostly suck. Who is going to want to have sex with women if they were all a bunch of offdee 3's? I'd be careful with the wine dude, a 2nd glass is going to be like 30% of your calories and it sticks to sodium like nothing else.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

So Otis, how long has it been since you had a nice juicy cheeseburger?

Hard to say. Been a while. That said, I'm good. Wife cracked some red wine tonight. Even had some baked whole wheat chips and salsa. Cruising through a delicious cut of salmon and some asparagus right now. May move onto wine glass #2. It's that good. And I was at about 400 calories on the day till I got home... SUCK IT CHUBBY NERDS

Avoid crash diets, especially if this is not the first, second, or even the third time Otis tries to lose weight. Create a healthy and sustainable habit that can become your new lifestyle.

 

[NutterButter]

I know it happened last year, but is this a yearly theme where Otis goes on a crash diet, talks a lot of smack and then fails miserably in the end winding up heavier then when he started?

 

[bentley]

So Otis, how long has it been since you had a nice juicy cheeseburger?

Hard to say. Been a while. That said, I'm good. Wife cracked some red wine tonight. Even had some baked whole wheat chips and salsa. Cruising through a delicious cut of salmon and some asparagus right now. May move onto wine glass #2. It's that good. And I was at about 400 calories on the day till I got home... SUCK IT CHUBBY NERDS

I'm glad that you've found a way to work alcohol into your routine. Gets it done for me too.I'm planning to finish the day at 1540 calories with three beers and a four mile run.1587 yesterday with 2 glasses of wine.1745 Sunday with 3 beers, 2 glasses of wine and a six mile run.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

I know it happened last year, but is this a yearly theme where Otis goes on a crash diet, talks a lot of smack and then fails miserably in the end winding up heavier then when he started?

it's not really so different than an alcoholic who keeps falling off the wagon.