Boldin may be held out this week (1 Viewer)

[gradin123]

If you have A.Boldin make alternative plans this week.

He did not practice today

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/...dsinjuries.html

"Boldin hopes to be able to play on Sunday if the pain and swelling subside enough"

Weather forecast is not good for game time either. Current forecast is for mid 20's, snow likely and wind.

But IMO, the main reason he likely won't play is the game means almost nothing for the Cardinals.

The Cardinals are guaranteed to be either the 3rd seed or the 4th seed. The difference between the two is minimal and the magic number for them to finish in the 4th seed is one win by Minnesota or one loss by them.

In fact, if I am the Cardinals facing bad conditions I probably would rest everyone this week. They aren't going to get a bye week so they could use this week as their bye and then beat up on Seattle next week at home to feel good about themselves.

They likely won't rest all their players but it makes no sense whatsoever to play anyone who is banged up, like Boldin. I honestly cannot envision a scenario right now where the Cardinals would play Boldin this week.

 

[5x champ]

It's an early game.

Unless your alternatives are Colts / Jags WRs, you'll have plenty of time to wait this one out and find out exactly what his status is and what the weather conditions are before you need to make a decision.

 

[gradin123]

It's an early game. Unless your alternatives are Colts / Jags WRs, you'll have plenty of time to wait this one out and find out exactly what his status is and what the weather conditions are before you need to make a decision.

I doubt he even makes the trip to NE so you should know by Saturday

 

[5x champ]

It's an early game. Unless your alternatives are Colts / Jags WRs, you'll have plenty of time to wait this one out and find out exactly what his status is and what the weather conditions are before you need to make a decision.

I doubt he even makes the trip to NE so you should know by Saturday

Thanks for your uninformed speculation.

 

[gradin123]

It's an early game. Unless your alternatives are Colts / Jags WRs, you'll have plenty of time to wait this one out and find out exactly what his status is and what the weather conditions are before you need to make a decision.

I doubt he even makes the trip to NE so you should know by Saturday

Thanks for your uninformed speculation.

It is informed speculation and common sense jerkoff.

 

[5x champ]

It's an early game. Unless your alternatives are Colts / Jags WRs, you'll have plenty of time to wait this one out and find out exactly what his status is and what the weather conditions are before you need to make a decision.

I doubt he even makes the trip to NE so you should know by Saturday

Thanks for your uninformed speculation.

It is informed speculation and common sense jerkoff.

 

[gradin123]

It's an early game. Unless your alternatives are Colts / Jags WRs, you'll have plenty of time to wait this one out and find out exactly what his status is and what the weather conditions are before you need to make a decision.

I doubt he even makes the trip to NE so you should know by Saturday

Thanks for your uninformed speculation.

It is informed speculation and common sense jerkoff.

You are good a spinning your head like that. Lots of practice?

 

[5x champ]

It's an early game. Unless your alternatives are Colts / Jags WRs, you'll have plenty of time to wait this one out and find out exactly what his status is and what the weather conditions are before you need to make a decision.

I doubt he even makes the trip to NE so you should know by Saturday

Thanks for your uninformed speculation.

It is informed speculation and common sense jerkoff.

You are good a spinning your head like that. Lots of practice?

 

[gradin123]

It's an early game. Unless your alternatives are Colts / Jags WRs, you'll have plenty of time to wait this one out and find out exactly what his status is and what the weather conditions are before you need to make a decision.

I doubt he even makes the trip to NE so you should know by Saturday

Thanks for your uninformed speculation.

It is informed speculation and common sense jerkoff.

You are good a spinning your head like that. Lots of practice?

Yeah that's what i thought.Seriously though, The whole point of this forum is speculation and opinion. So exactly why are you giving me a hard time?My thoughts are well reasoned and definitely INFORMED and if I could be assured of payment I would bet anyone even money that Boldin won't play this week.

 

[5x champ]

It's an early game. Unless your alternatives are Colts / Jags WRs, you'll have plenty of time to wait this one out and find out exactly what his status is and what the weather conditions are before you need to make a decision.

I doubt he even makes the trip to NE so you should know by Saturday

Thanks for your uninformed speculation.

It is informed speculation and common sense jerkoff.

You are good a spinning your head like that. Lots of practice?

Yeah that's what i thought.Seriously though, The whole point of this forum is speculation and opinion. So exactly why are you giving me a hard time?My thoughts are well reasoned and definitely INFORMED and if I could be assured of payment I would bet anyone even money that Boldin won't play this week.

A hard time? I thought I was taking it easy on you by not posting things you'd actually have to read.Look, you're the one that started with the idea that's he's flat out not playing because he missed practice on a Wednesday. Do you have any idea how many players miss practice on Wednesday and still play on Sunday? I don't think TJ Housh practiced on a Wednesday for the first 8 weeks of the season. So, yes, you are misinformed and just blindly speculating that he won't play this week. Could you be right? Of course you could, but what's that going to get you in life? Bragging rights on a FF board? Congrats...Oh, and couple your blind speculation with the name calling, iTough guy shtick and I'm going to at you all day.

 

[LionsFan78]

Do you have any idea how many players miss practice on Wednesday and still play on Sunday?

 

[shakeybarn]

enough ladies... jeezuz... pm each other on your lil' quibble.

curious if Arizona will piss this game away... and us Breaston-hedge owners might enjoy this. No Boldin or no Fitz... either one should be good for Breaston.

 

[gradin123]

A hard time? I thought I was taking it easy on you by not posting things you'd actually have to read.

Look, you're the one that started with the idea that's he's flat out not playing because he missed practice on a Wednesday. Do you have any idea how many players miss practice on Wednesday and still play on Sunday? I don't think TJ Housh practiced on a Wednesday for the first 8 weeks of the season. So, yes, you are misinformed and just blindly speculating that he won't play this week. Could you be right? Of course you could, but what's that going to get you in life? Bragging rights on a FF board? Congrats...

Oh, and couple your blind speculation with the name calling, iTough guy shtick and I'm going to at you all day.

If this was a normal week he probably would play. But here are the facts that are the basis of my post

1) Boldin is banged up

2) The game is on the road in a city across the country and the weather forecast is bad

and most importantly



3) The Cardinals are playing for almost nothing this week. They will be the 3rd seed or 4th seed in the NFC and they would need the Vikings to lose both of there last 2 games to even have a chance at the 3 seed. The difference between the 3rd and 4th seed is minimal as neither involves a bye week and it would only become an issue if both the 1st and 2nd seeds lose and the 3rd and 4th seeds play in the Championship game.

None of that is speculation. If you are the real GM or coach of the Cardinals would you play Boldin or any of their other injured players this week?

Like you said there are Colts and Jaguars players going tomorrow and there are also is a Saturday game this week(Cowboys and Ravens). So this info could be helpful to some Boldin owners.

 

[gradin123]

Do you have any idea how many players miss practice on Wednesday and still play on Sunday?

Not really because it fails to recognize3) The Cardinals are playing for almost nothing this week. They will be the 3rd seed or 4th seed in the NFC and they would need the Vikings to lose both of there last 2 games to even have a chance at the 3 seed. The difference between the 3rd and 4th seed is minimal as neither involves a bye week and it would only become an issue if both the 1st and 2nd seeds lose and the 3rd and 4th seeds play in the Championship game.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

If you have A.Boldin make alternative plans this week.

He did not practice today

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/...dsinjuries.html

"Boldin hopes to be able to play on Sunday if the pain and swelling subside enough"

Weather forecast is not good for game time either. Current forecast is for mid 20's, snow likely and wind.

But the main reason he likely won't play is the game means almost nothing for the Cardinals.

The Cardinals are guaranteed to be either the 3rd seed or the 4th seed. The difference between the two is minimal and the magic number for them to finish in the 4th seed is one win by Minnesota or one loss by them.

In fact, if I am the Cardinals facing bad conditions I probably would rest everyone this week. They aren't going to get a bye week so they could use this week as their bye and then beat up on Seattle next week at home to feel good about themselves.

They likely won't rest all their players but it makes no sense whatsoever to play anyone who is banged up, like Boldin. I honestly cannot envision a scenario right now where the Cardinals would play Boldin this week.

gradin,Thanks for the info. You may want to change the format of this post. When I first glanced over it, I got the idea the beat writer was saying your 2nd bolded line -- "But the main reason he likely won't play is the game means almost nothing for the Cardinals."

It looks like that's just your opinion, which is much different. I respect your opinion, but I do think it's a bit misleading the way it's set up now.

Thanks.

 

[gradin123]

gradin,

Thanks for the info. You may want to change the format of this post. When I first glanced over it, I got the idea the beat writer was saying your 2nd bolded line -- "But the main reason he likely won't play is the game means almost nothing for the Cardinals."

It looks like that's just your opinion, which is much different. I respect your opinion, but I do think it's a bit misleading the way it's set up now.

Thanks.

I added IMO.

 

[Mikey16x]

Personally, I benched him this week based on common sense. I have TO, Jennings, Calvin Johnson starting over him... not really crying. If Boldin plays this week, it will probably be sparingly.

 

[buccosfan]

if i benched a player every time he didn't practice on wednesday, i might not be able to field a lineup.

 

[identikit]

Extremely misleading title to this thread.

 

[Muahahaha]

Gradin,

I, for one, appreciate your posting this thread & appreciate your speculation. Firms up my feelings on Warner this weekend.

Thanks

 

[shader]

This game means alot for the Cards. They've been beaten up pretty bad recently. If they could get a win against New England on the road, it would be huge for their confidence. They need an end-of-year run like the Giants last year.

If they sit on their haunches and rest all their players they will be one and done in the playoffs.

They need to keep trying to improve.

 

[WisWolvrns]

This game means alot for the Cards. They've been beaten up pretty bad recently. If they could get a win against New England on the road, it would be huge for their confidence. They need an end-of-year run like the Giants last year. If they sit on their haunches and rest all their players they will be one and done in the playoffs.They need to keep trying to improve.

Absolutely Arizona had their "bye" last week, when they stunk up the house vs Minnesota. They need to get back on track and winning at NE looks to me like a great litmus test for their team. If they crash and burn that day, then they probably won't go far in the playoffs. If they can win this week with a tough fought game, it will give them great confidence for the playoffs and their probable trip back east for a road playoff game.The Arizona starts are risky nonetheless, but for the opposite reason I figure. If NE gets a big lead like Minnesota did, the same scenario could happen with Leinart coming into the game...atleast that's my 2-cents of prognostication...

 

[zamboni]

I think people are assuming too much that the Cards will just play dead in this game for reasons mentioned above (confidence, trying to wash away last week's abysmal showing, etc.)

Perhaps next week is the week that they take it easy if their playoff situation is cemented, but I doubt Whisenhunt wants the team to go into the playoffs on a three-game slide.

 

[Sinrman]

"Boldin (left shoulder) hopes to be able to play on Sunday if the pain and swelling subside, the Arizona Republic reports.

Spin: This is a more pessimistic view than the Cardinals' official site offered earlier in the day. However, Boldin is very tough -- he missed only two games after sustaining a concussion and multiple facial fractures in Week 4 -- and we're optimistic that he will be able to play on Sunday.

[breaking News] RotoWire | Wed, December 17"

 

[Joe Bryant]

It's an early game. Unless your alternatives are Colts / Jags WRs, you'll have plenty of time to wait this one out and find out exactly what his status is and what the weather conditions are before you need to make a decision.

I doubt he even makes the trip to NE so you should know by Saturday

Thanks for your uninformed speculation.

It is informed speculation and common sense jerkoff.

Don't go there again when you come back.J

 

[LionsFan78]

Do you have any idea how many players miss practice on Wednesday and still play on Sunday?

Not really because it fails to recognize3) The Cardinals are playing for almost nothing this week. They will be the 3rd seed or 4th seed in the NFC and they would need the Vikings to lose both of there last 2 games to even have a chance at the 3 seed. The difference between the 3rd and 4th seed is minimal as neither involves a bye week and it would only become an issue if both the 1st and 2nd seeds lose and the 3rd and 4th seeds play in the Championship game.

Facing Warner/Boldin this week are we????

 

[SanDawg]

I think people are assuming too much that the Cards will just play dead in this game for reasons mentioned above (confidence, trying to wash away last week's abysmal showing, etc.)Perhaps next week is the week that they take it easy if their playoff situation is cemented, but I doubt Whisenhunt wants the team to go into the playoffs on a three-game slide.

I am leaning on the side of zamboni with this one as well. Let's say the Cards match up with the Giants in the 2nd round, chances are it is going to be cold, windy, snowy. This is a perfect chance to start preparing for these conditions. Granted, they have to get out of the Wild-Card Weekend at home, but that 2nd game should be see conditions like they will face this weekend. Throw in the poor performance last week, I think they really need to focus on getting right this week, not next against Seattle.

 

[Wilbur Wood]

I think people are assuming too much that the Cards will just play dead in this game for reasons mentioned above (confidence, trying to wash away last week's abysmal showing, etc.)Perhaps next week is the week that they take it easy if their playoff situation is cemented, but I doubt Whisenhunt wants the team to go into the playoffs on a three-game slide.

I am leaning on the side of zamboni with this one as well. Let's say the Cards match up with the Giants in the 2nd round, chances are it is going to be cold, windy, snowy. This is a perfect chance to start preparing for these conditions. Granted, they have to get out of the Wild-Card Weekend at home, but that 2nd game should be see conditions like they will face this weekend. Throw in the poor performance last week, I think they really need to focus on getting right this week, not next against Seattle.

2nd round? Under what circumstances can anyone be projecting the AWFUL Cards to get to the 2nd round? This team is undefeated in the pathetic NFC West and 3-6 against the rest of the league, including multiple losses by double digit point totals. The Cards should be going all out to play a competitive game on the road against a quality opponent. Right now they are a BAD, one dimensional football team, with a soft defense to boot. If they lay an egg in this game they shouldn't even bother showing up for the 1st round of the NFL playoffs.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

It's an early game. Unless your alternatives are Colts / Jags WRs, you'll have plenty of time to wait this one out and find out exactly what his status is and what the weather conditions are before you need to make a decision.

I doubt he even makes the trip to NE so you should know by Saturday

Thanks for your uninformed speculation.

It is informed speculation and common sense jerkoff.

(although I hope you didn't report him)...

 

[5x champ]

It's an early game. Unless your alternatives are Colts / Jags WRs, you'll have plenty of time to wait this one out and find out exactly what his status is and what the weather conditions are before you need to make a decision.

I doubt he even makes the trip to NE so you should know by Saturday

Thanks for your uninformed speculation.

It is informed speculation and common sense jerkoff.

(although I hope you didn't report him)...

It's not like I'm a Tommy Gilmore alias.

 

[Muahahaha]

I think people are assuming too much that the Cards will just play dead in this game for reasons mentioned above (confidence, trying to wash away last week's abysmal showing, etc.)Perhaps next week is the week that they take it easy if their playoff situation is cemented, but I doubt Whisenhunt wants the team to go into the playoffs on a three-game slide.

I am leaning on the side of zamboni with this one as well. Let's say the Cards match up with the Giants in the 2nd round, chances are it is going to be cold, windy, snowy. This is a perfect chance to start preparing for these conditions. Granted, they have to get out of the Wild-Card Weekend at home, but that 2nd game should be see conditions like they will face this weekend. Throw in the poor performance last week, I think they really need to focus on getting right this week, not next against Seattle.

2nd round? Under what circumstances can anyone be projecting the AWFUL Cards to get to the 2nd round? This team is undefeated in the pathetic NFC West and 3-6 against the rest of the league, including multiple losses by double digit point totals. The Cards should be going all out to play a competitive game on the road against a quality opponent. Right now they are a BAD, one dimensional football team, with a soft defense to boot. If they lay an egg in this game they shouldn't even bother showing up for the 1st round of the NFL playoffs.

I think a small percentage of the comments/issues with Arizona are regarding the Card's efforts. Most of the comments/issues are not with their effort level, but with the results even with 100% effort.Sure, there is a slight possibility they sit players. Honestly, that is not what I'm worried about. I'm worried about weather, road game, Bellicheck, a team which appears to be playing worse with each passing week. Even if this game were a do-or-die game for the Cards, I think they would still lay an egg. They are just not playing good football right now.

 

[mcdons3]

If you have A.Boldin make alternative plans this week.

He did not practice today

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/...dsinjuries.html

"Boldin hopes to be able to play on Sunday if the pain and swelling subside enough"

Weather forecast is not good for game time either. Current forecast is for mid 20's, snow likely and wind.

But IMO, the main reason he likely won't play is the game means almost nothing for the Cardinals.

The Cardinals are guaranteed to be either the 3rd seed or the 4th seed. The difference between the two is minimal and the magic number for them to finish in the 4th seed is one win by Minnesota or one loss by them.

In fact, if I am the Cardinals facing bad conditions I probably would rest everyone this week. They aren't going to get a bye week so they could use this week as their bye and then beat up on Seattle next week at home to feel good about themselves.

They likely won't rest all their players but it makes no sense whatsoever to play anyone who is banged up, like Boldin. I honestly cannot envision a scenario right now where the Cardinals would play Boldin this week.

This thread delivers!You're most likely overthinking things by guessing that they'd shut down Boldin if he's not 100% this week. Either way, thanks for updating your initial post to reflect that this was all based on speculation on your part. Personally, I think it's best to leave the speculation to the people closer to the situation.

 

[gman74]

(KFFL) Darren Urban, of AZCardinals.com, reports Arizona Cardinals WR Anquan Boldin (shoulder) missed the team's practice Wednesday, Dec. 17, and is listed as day-to-day, but should be fine.

 

[5x champ]

Missing practice on Thursday means its ok to start worrying.

Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt acknowledged Thursday that he is considering sitting Anquan Boldin (shoulder) for Week 16.Whisenhunt wants to make sure Boldin is healthy for the postseason with the NFC West already clinched. Q sat out his second straight practice Thursday and is uncertain to play against New England. With the weather conditions not expected to be ideal for passing anyways, fantasy owners need to prepare to be without him. Steve Breaston is next up on the depth chart.

 

[zamboni]

Missing practice on Thursday means its ok to start worrying.

Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt acknowledged Thursday that he is considering sitting Anquan Boldin (shoulder) for Week 16.Whisenhunt wants to make sure Boldin is healthy for the postseason with the NFC West already clinched. Q sat out his second straight practice Thursday and is uncertain to play against New England. With the weather conditions not expected to be ideal for passing anyways, fantasy owners need to prepare to be without him. Steve Breaston is next up on the depth chart.

Hmm - I'm wondering if that means that Fitzgerald may be somewhat limited as well to keep him healthy.

 

[valhallan]

I'm not sure why anyone would be surprised to see Arizona take this game off. It's not like they've been here before, so why wouldn't they act like they've already won something and punt this game? We're not talking about a seasoned franchise here.. we're talking about the Cardinals.

 

[mcdons3]

I'm not sure why anyone would be surprised to see Arizona take this game off. It's not like they've been here before, so why wouldn't they act like they've already won something and punt this game? We're not talking about a seasoned franchise here.. we're talking about the Cardinals.

This might hold some truth if Whisenhunt had come up from within the Cardinals organization...

 

[5x champ]

I'm not sure why anyone would be surprised to see Arizona take this game off. It's not like they've been here before, so why wouldn't they act like they've already won something and punt this game? We're not talking about a seasoned franchise here.. we're talking about the Cardinals.

This might hold some truth if Whisenhunt had come up from within the Cardinals organization...

Exactly. If I remember correctly, Whise was on the Pittsburgh staff that took advantage of an Indy team that decided to take a 4 week vacation going into the playoffs.I'm sure he's smart enough to learn from other people's mistakes and not just his own.

 

[Das Boot]

Missing practice on Thursday means its ok to start worrying.

Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt acknowledged Thursday that he is considering sitting Anquan Boldin (shoulder) for Week 16.

Whisenhunt wants to make sure Boldin is healthy for the postseason with the NFC West already clinched. Q sat out his second straight practice Thursday and is uncertain to play against New England. With the weather conditions not expected to be ideal for passing anyways, fantasy owners need to prepare to be without him. Steve Breaston is next up on the depth chart.

Props to the OP The idea was solid, just work on the presentation a little and you're good to go.

 

[Black]

So thoughts? Could Boldin end up playing anyways, or is this looking like a done deal?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

It's an early game. Unless your alternatives are Colts / Jags WRs, you'll have plenty of time to wait this one out and find out exactly what his status is and what the weather conditions are before you need to make a decision.

Maybe it's possible that some people have to actually get their line ups in before the kickoff to Thursday games...there are millions of leagues, sure some of them could be set up tis way.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

It's an early game. Unless your alternatives are Colts / Jags WRs, you'll have plenty of time to wait this one out and find out exactly what his status is and what the weather conditions are before you need to make a decision.

I doubt he even makes the trip to NE so you should know by Saturday

Thanks for your uninformed speculation.

It is informed speculation and common sense jerkoff.

You are good a spinning your head like that. Lots of practice?

He excels at it

 

[gradin123]

The idea was solid, just work on the presentation a little and you're good to go.

I was just thinking ahead of the curve. You can react to news OR you can look at the signals being sent and use your common sense to make an EDUCATED GUESS about what a team is going to do.If someone read my post on Wednesday night and agreed with my synopsis of the situation then they could try and address alternative plans early in the week when there might be more options.I really was just trying to be helpful and I was not trying to mislead people. If anyone read the entire context of my original post I think they'd see it was based on solid reasoning looking at all the facts that were there early.You can justifiably call me strongly opinionated and a maybe a few other things but one thing I am not is uninformed.

 

[gradin123]

BTW, as we draw closer to this game the weather forecast hasn't improved much. The latest forecast calls for a 100% chance of snow or rain and for windy conditions.

 

[Addai's Adidas]

If Boldin is out, how does it effect Breaston's numbers?

 

[gradin123]

If Boldin is out, how does it effect Breaston's numbers?

It can't hurt. I would think if Boldin is out that the Pats would focus more attention on Fitz than usual which may also benefit Breaston.

 

[gradin123]

http://www.azcardinals.com/blog/blog.php?author=1

Injury update, Haggans to IR and the weather

Wide receiver Anquan Boldin (shoulder) skipped practice again Friday and running back J.J. Arrington (knee) was very limited in practice. They are questionable for Sunday’s game against New England, and Whisenhunt said both will be game-time decisions. Whisenhunt already said Thursday that the Cards would hold both players out if they weren’t ready because having them ready for the playoffs is more important.

DE/LB Travis LaBoy, however, is out with his bad ankle. And, in news that isn’t shocking, LB Clark Haggans has had his season end when the team put him on injured reserve Friday with his bad foot. T Elliot Vallejo takes his place.

The weather is already a factor on this road trip. The Cardinals were scheduled to leave right after practice today to go to the airport and land in Providence this evening. But because of an incoming snow storm that is making traveling difficult, the decision was made to delay leaving for a couple of hours.

 

[Kuz]

http://www.azcardinals.com/blog/blog.php?author=1

Injury update, Haggans to IR and the weather

Wide receiver Anquan Boldin (shoulder) skipped practice again Friday and running back J.J. Arrington (knee) was very limited in practice. They are questionable for Sunday’s game against New England, and Whisenhunt said both will be game-time decisions. Whisenhunt already said Thursday that the Cards would hold both players out if they weren’t ready because having them ready for the playoffs is more important.

DE/LB Travis LaBoy, however, is out with his bad ankle. And, in news that isn’t shocking, LB Clark Haggans has had his season end when the team put him on injured reserve Friday with his bad foot. T Elliot Vallejo takes his place.

The weather is already a factor on this road trip. The Cardinals were scheduled to leave right after practice today to go to the airport and land in Providence this evening. But because of an incoming snow storm that is making traveling difficult, the decision was made to delay leaving for a couple of hours.

I agree with you & don't expect Boldin to play.

 

[Das Boot]

The idea was solid, just work on the presentation a little and you're good to go.

I was just thinking ahead of the curve. You can react to news OR you can look at the signals being sent and use your common sense to make an EDUCATED GUESS about what a team is going to do.If someone read my post on Wednesday night and agreed with my synopsis of the situation then they could try and address alternative plans early in the week when there might be more options.I really was just trying to be helpful and I was not trying to mislead people. If anyone read the entire context of my original post I think they'd see it was based on solid reasoning looking at all the facts that were there early.You can justifiably call me strongly opinionated and a maybe a few other things but one thing I am not is uninformed.

Thanks, it was a great call and I appreciated the early heads up.It gave me time to pick a decent QB off of waivers so I'd have an option for the SB and Warner.Looks like I may use it now.Great anticipation on your part. :X