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Boy do I miss the NFL (1 Viewer)

I definitely agree that more people's health and lives should be put at risk so that fat, drunken, complaining slobs can escape the miserable drudgery of their lives for a few hours.
Yeah, and while we're at it let's get rid of cell phones because someone has to be put at risk to climb up there and repair the towers.

Newsflash. No one is forced to play football and they're compensated more than fairly.

 
Please take one minute and look at the greatest play in football history - The "Immaculate Reception". http://youtu.be/7xMDIcsUMmA

Just watch the electricity being released in that building, the spontaneity, sheer exuberance, fans rushing onto the field. The announcer shouting "It's over!"

If that play happened today...

A) Tatum would have been flagged for an illegal hit on a defenseless Wide Receiver

B) The play would have been reviewed for at least 10 minutes

C) The fan experience would have been 1/100th as exciting, yet the result would have still been the same
Good, that #### is garbage. How anyone could think it's great that defensive players can take the heads off of receivers when they aren't looking is beyond me.

 
For some reason today it just smacked me in the face that the NFL I grew up with is no more:

- one hour weather delays every time lightning is detected within 100 miles.

- every single hard hit is a personal foul.

- can't even get excited when you see a touchdown because you won't know for 5 minutes (after a lengthy review) if it really was a touchdown or not.

The old NFL is dead and gone. It was killed by technology and lawsuits. F.U. Doppler radar.
I was telling my wife the same exact thing last night while we were watching the Sunday night game.It's freaking raining.....and they are stopping the game? This is insane. This never went on in our NFL (70's 80's 90's) never.

You can't play defense anymore......at all. It's disgusting.

You can't touch the QB......at all.

You can't hit a WR coming across the middle.....at all.

Every freaking TD and turnover is now reviewed. Nuts. Just absolutely nuts. The game is not played in slow motion....it's a joke.

While I still find enjoyment in the NFL...and I do. It is pro football, I love fantasy etc. I remember how much better the game was in the 80's and 90's....and I am talking about the quality on both sides of the ball...you actually had great defense in those eras.....it is rare today because of how much the rules favor the offense...it's insane.

And what is really more disappoinitng to me is it seems threads in here can't ever remain civil with intellegent and good natured posts. Everything turns into my opinion is fact....pound my chest till you agree with me etc etc etc. I can understand fantasy player discussions and point and counter point.....but this subject?

This is my opinion....I don't care if you agree with me or not. It's not about that. Its about posting your thoughts and not trying to make anyone think....your right.

Who cares. It's just a stinkin game.
Why is scoring not way up if teams can't play defense anymore?

 
For me it has nothing to do with scores....it has to do with the gameplay on the field. And the incessant flags thrown for grazing a WR.

You can't even breath on a WR or QB. Come on. It is just become much harder for the game to flow and move. Constant replay reviews, flags on the defense etc etc etc.

Again I still really enjoy football.....still tons of great players.

But it caters to one side of the ball in regards to the rules today. And yardage and QB numbers as well as WR numbers clearly reflect that.

Just my observation. If you think the game is far better today than 15 years ago....great. But while I love Goodell's approach to no-nonsense off the field....his reign on the field has been a complete abortion.

I am all for player safety......launching head first at a player....hell no. But textbook great hits are getting flagged far too often now as officials are afraid of their own shadows with these new rules. How in gods name is a FS supposed to suddenly stop when he is going full speed for a WR leading with his shoulders and squaring a guy up as a pass sails by incomplete. It defies physics and the law of motion. Yet in today's NFL it is expected the guy should be able to pull up and stop in his tracks...same for a DE going full bore at a QB.

Football is a violent game...plain and simple. And it seems every year it is getting worse and worse for the defense to try to defend and play physical football.

Yet even with all these rule changes, injuries are as high as ever. So the real problem is players are getting bigger, stronger and even faster....evolution can't be slowed down nor tamed.

 
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If you don't like football move to Norway. [/Nike]
Brilliant...really....brilliant. Thanks for contributing to a meaningful discussion among men who want to compare the changes in this game over the last 2 decades.

Your post sums up everything wrong with the Shark Pool now.

Thanks for playing.

 
You sure you dont wanna add a #4 to that list?

3-5MINUTES OF COMMERCIALS AFTER EVERY ####### PLAY

NFL is bordering on becoming unwatchable
Being at a game is even worse. The players spend so much time just standing around for TV time outs.

It's why the RedZone channel is so popular.
Over the last year or so I hardly watch the actual games anymore. I just have RedZone on and keep my IPad close by to check the scores as I go about my business around the house. Just like I do when MLB games are on. I used to be glued to the TV all days on Sundays...now once in awhile I will check in for a few plays. With all the delays, replays and commercials the actual games are getting unwatchable.

Going to the game in person is even worse..It seems like every 3-4 minutes all the players are just standing around waiting for the comercials to be over.

 
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Whoever had the line about the OP wanting to see Marshawn Lynch punch the lightning back to the sky has this right.

It's funny how people want others to take on more risk simply so they can be better entertained from the comfort of their couch.

The fact is that the NFL, like all things, change. It's not perfect, there are growing pains but professional football is the most profitable and most popular sport in this country, it's still trending upward, and that trend is not reversing its course any time soon.

So all these grumpy and presumably older men can complain all they want. Stop watching if that's what you want to do. But the rest of us and the NFL will keep on going just fine without you.
Stop it.

Grumpy old men?

No......there was a time when football was played....without 6000 thousand tv timeouts. Contrived cheers and music blasting over the PA pushing labels new bubble gum music, where you could hit the QB, where you can harass a WR and make him truly catch the ball while being defended, where QB's put up legit passing records without the aid of watered down defensive rules, where after every incomplete pass down field we did not have to put up with player waiving their arms up asking for a flag....every time. Where if your freaking hand grazed the side of QB's helmet you would not be flagged.

The game is still great. Don't get me wrong. I still love to watch my football on Sunday.

But man.....it is so much different (and not for the better) today than just 10 years ago.

If you grew up watching it in the mid 80'sthrough the 90's......you be hard pressed not to agree.

Where as Basketball......the NBA? Far better today than ever.

MLB? And I am a baseball purist and junkie......I am enjoying as much today as I did growing up despite the free agency madness. The quality of the game is incredible. And now they are about to possibly ruin it next year with the introduction of a manager challenge system....like we need more delays in a baseball game....and MLB umpires are the absolute best in the business as far as professional sport referee/officials etc.

Just go back to a year....say 1993. My god the football being played back then was awesome. No replay BS, defense and offense at a high level....QB's being hit, stars all over the field as well.....the pace of the game was so much better.

I really think the thing I despise the most is the pace of the game as been sucked dry. On TV.....thank god for Red Zone....it has really saved Sundays for me. I no longer ever have to watch commercials between 1-8PM on Sunday. Whenever a commercial comes up during my broadcast game.....flip to Red Zone.

It's beautiful. I love Red Zone, I love NFL Network...the coverage has never been better...no doubt.

But th prodct on the field....and the presentation....is getting worse.

Lousy rules

Lousy delays

Replay blows chunks.

When it was just the challenge system.....no booth reviews, no review of every TD and turnover.......it was great. No problem for me.

Now? It is terminal. I can only imagine at the stadium between all the crappy loud PA commercials and crap music (talking about Miami) , TV timeouts, review delays......awful.

I have no desire to go to an NFL game anymore.

Live basketball......amazing.

Live Baseball....night and day from TV

Live Hockey......AWESOME.

Live NFL football........FAIL.

TV football......still good. Still watch.....but not getting better....oh no....not at all.

Thank god for Red Zone is all I can say.
I grew up watching football in the 80s and 90s and I don't agree that it's so much different and not for the better. You and others can yearn for pro football of decades past but it's not coming back.

As I said before things evolve, if people don't like it, that's fine but again the sport is more profitable and popular than ever and continues to grow.

Just as people say nobody forces players to play, nobody forces you to watch it.

 
I grew up watching football in the 80s and 90s and I don't agree that it's so much different and not for the better. You and others can yearn for pro football of decades past but it's not coming back.
As I said before things evolve, if people don't like it, that's fine but again the sport is more profitable and popular than ever and continues to grow.

Just as people say nobody forces players to play, nobody forces you to watch it.
Dude, you are either in denial or not paying attention. What times do the 4:00 games start nowadays? Answer - there aren't any 4:00 games anymore. They almost all start at 4:25 now. And it keeps going up and up.

The average length of a football game has gone up 18% since the 80's. There are 188 minutes in an average football game. Guess how many minutes there is of actual game action? 11. That's less than 6% of the time. 75 minutes are devoted to showing the players milling around or in the huddle. The rest of the time is devoted to showing replays, the halftime show, and, most importantly, commercials. In an era where people have the attention spans of a 2 year old, you have to either increase the percentage of time when there is action or make the 11 minutes of game play even more riveting - or people will start to tune out. Why do you think the Red Zone is so popular? People can't watch a three and half hour game, especially when 94% of it is non-action.

And yes, the sport is still insanely popular and the revenue streams are strong. For now. But you are starting to see some slippage in the television ratings. This year's NFL season opener had the lowest television ratings in 4 years. The sport can and should be much better than it is today, that's all I am saying.

 
I grew up watching football in the 80s and 90s and I don't agree that it's so much different and not for the better. You and others can yearn for pro football of decades past but it's not coming back.
As I said before things evolve, if people don't like it, that's fine but again the sport is more profitable and popular than ever and continues to grow.

Just as people say nobody forces players to play, nobody forces you to watch it.
Dude, you are either in denial or not paying attention. What times do the 4:00 games start nowadays? Answer - there aren't any 4:00 games anymore. They almost all start at 4:25 now. And it keeps going up and up.

The average length of a football game has gone up 18% since the 80's. There are 188 minutes in an average football game. Guess how many minutes there is of actual game action? 11. That's less than 6% of the time. 75 minutes are devoted to showing the players milling around or in the huddle. The rest of the time is devoted to showing replays, the halftime show, and, most importantly, commercials. In an era where people have the attention spans of a 2 year old, you have to either increase the percentage of time when there is action or make the 11 minutes of game play even more riveting - or people will start to tune out. Why do you think the Red Zone is so popular? People can't watch a three and half hour game, especially when 94% of it is non-action.

And yes, the sport is still insanely popular and the revenue streams are strong. For now. But you are starting to see some slippage in the television ratings. This year's NFL season opener had the lowest television ratings in 4 years. The sport can and should be much better than it is today, that's all I am saying.
What exactly am I in denial about?

I don't care that games start at 4:25 instead of 4pm. And I have Sunday Ticket and redzone and don't really do commercials or excessive replays. For prime time games I use them to get beer, food, take a leak, get something for my wife or daughter, or suffer through it.

I guess I just don't see the big deal. As I stated before, the game has changed, it's not perfect, and there are growing pains. But I don't sit around yearning for football of past decades. I understand why most of the changes occur, I take it for what it's worth, still find my enjoyment in it, and keep it moving.

Obviously you and others are free to complain all you want. I just have a different perspective.

 
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Whoever had the line about the OP wanting to see Marshawn Lynch punch the lightning back to the sky has this right.

It's funny how people want others to take on more risk simply so they can be better entertained from the comfort of their couch.

The fact is that the NFL, like all things, change. It's not perfect, there are growing pains but professional football is the most profitable and most popular sport in this country, it's still trending upward, and that trend is not reversing its course any time soon.

So all these grumpy and presumably older men can complain all they want. Stop watching if that's what you want to do. But the rest of us and the NFL will keep on going just fine without you.
Stop it.

Grumpy old men?

No......there was a time when football was played....without 6000 thousand tv timeouts. Contrived cheers and music blasting over the PA pushing labels new bubble gum music, where you could hit the QB, where you can harass a WR and make him truly catch the ball while being defended, where QB's put up legit passing records without the aid of watered down defensive rules, where after every incomplete pass down field we did not have to put up with player waiving their arms up asking for a flag....every time. Where if your freaking hand grazed the side of QB's helmet you would not be flagged.

The game is still great. Don't get me wrong. I still love to watch my football on Sunday.

But man.....it is so much different (and not for the better) today than just 10 years ago.

If you grew up watching it in the mid 80'sthrough the 90's......you be hard pressed not to agree.

Where as Basketball......the NBA? Far better today than ever.

MLB? And I am a baseball purist and junkie......I am enjoying as much today as I did growing up despite the free agency madness. The quality of the game is incredible. And now they are about to possibly ruin it next year with the introduction of a manager challenge system....like we need more delays in a baseball game....and MLB umpires are the absolute best in the business as far as professional sport referee/officials etc.

Just go back to a year....say 1993. My god the football being played back then was awesome. No replay BS, defense and offense at a high level....QB's being hit, stars all over the field as well.....the pace of the game was so much better.

I really think the thing I despise the most is the pace of the game as been sucked dry. On TV.....thank god for Red Zone....it has really saved Sundays for me. I no longer ever have to watch commercials between 1-8PM on Sunday. Whenever a commercial comes up during my broadcast game.....flip to Red Zone.

It's beautiful. I love Red Zone, I love NFL Network...the coverage has never been better...no doubt.

But th prodct on the field....and the presentation....is getting worse.

Lousy rules

Lousy delays

Replay blows chunks.

When it was just the challenge system.....no booth reviews, no review of every TD and turnover.......it was great. No problem for me.

Now? It is terminal. I can only imagine at the stadium between all the crappy loud PA commercials and crap music (talking about Miami) , TV timeouts, review delays......awful.

I have no desire to go to an NFL game anymore.

Live basketball......amazing.

Live Baseball....night and day from TV

Live Hockey......AWESOME.

Live NFL football........FAIL.

TV football......still good. Still watch.....but not getting better....oh no....not at all.

Thank god for Red Zone is all I can say.
I grew up watching football in the 80s and 90s and I don't agree that it's so much different and not for the better. You and others can yearn for pro football of decades past but it's not coming back.

As I said before things evolve, if people don't like it, that's fine but again the sport is more profitable and popular than ever and continues to grow.

Just as people say nobody forces players to play, nobody forces you to watch it.
Again.....I am not saying i do not like the NFL.....but my passion for it has really been tempered say from just 7-8 years ago. It has changed that much from a presentation perspective.

It is the ulltimate TV sport.....no question. My point was actually about going to a live game.....it is dreadful....just dreadful...compared to going to a game in the 80's and even 90's (the 2 golden decades of this game and why it is where it is today).

The game has come to screeching halt. On TV it is still good....but not the event it used to be.

Now....post season? Thats another story. Championship Sunday is still the best day on the NFL schedule. Bar none.

The Super Bowl is......sheesh. What that game has become from when I was 7, 8 ,9 years old watching the Steelers and Cowboys battles....the Super Bowl has long gone the way of corporate exceess and just pure contrived BS.

The World Series and NBA Finals are so far superior to the one day event that is the Super Bowl.

Now the Super Bowl experience as far as getting together, having parties, lots of food and drink....cool stuff. But the game itself over the years has become about the stinkin commercials.....and that started well before the rule changes on the field and all that jazz.

Anyway.....I think the point Tsu and me to a degree is.......the game itself....on the field and with the advent of all the replay rules and lack of defense is losing it's luster and shine that it had over the last 30 years.

Even Fantasy Football has jumped the proverbial shark. The charm of that has died a ton. And maybe it's because I have been playing it since 1990.

Yeah...maybe I am getting older....and things have lost some luster. Or maybe since the Dolphins have sucked for so long the football soul has been sucked out of me (damn those Dolphins! LOL).

Thank god I still love baseball and basketball with a passion....like I used to have for football.

And there is nothing wrong with talking about how good it used to be....when in fact in my mind...it was better.

It just was.

And I realize we are never going back to how the defense used to be able to defend compared to now. I realize player safety is such a massive focus now to the point of losing a lot of the awesome hits and excitement. But the way they protect QB's.....it's sissy...really sissy like now.

As Dean Vernan Warner from Faber would say:

"IT STINKS!!!"

 
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Top 20 shows

Prime-time viewership numbers compiled by Nielsen for Sept. 2-8. Listings include the week's ranking and viewership.

1. NFL football: New York Giants at Dallas, NBC, 25.4 million

2. NFL football: Baltimore at Denver, NBC, 25.13 million

3. NFL Pre-Kick (Thursday), NBC, 18.03 million

4. Football Night in America, NBC, 14.09 million

5. Under the Dome, CBS, 11.15 million

6. Duck Dynasty, A&E, 10.46 million

7. NFL Opening Kick-Off Show (Thursday), NBC, 10.13 million

8. America's Got Talent (Wednesday), NBC, 10.03 million

9. 60 Minutes, CBS, 9.34 million

10. America's Got Talent (Tuesday), NBC, 9.16 million

11. NCIS, CBS, 9.11 million

12. College football: Notre Dame vs. Michigan, ESPN, 8.65 million

13. Big Brother 15 (Sunday), CBS, 7.27 million

14. Big Brother 15 (Thursday), CBS, 7.24 million

15. The Big Bang Theory, CBS, 7.17 million

16. College Football: South Carolina vs. Georgia, ESPN, 7.05 million

17. Big Brother 15 (Wednesday), CBS, 6.75 million

18. NCIS: Los Angeles, CBS, 6.63 million

19. The Simpsons, Fox, 6.4 million

20. Two and a Half Men, CBS, 6.187
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Thank god I still love baseball and basketball with a passion....like I used to have for football.
I don't get it. You complain that football isn't violent enough, but you love baseball with nearly none at all and basketball where defense is a farce.

 
Thank god I still love baseball and basketball with a passion....like I used to have for football.
I don't get it. You complain that football isn't violent enough, but you love baseball with nearly none at all and basketball where defense is a farce.
I never ever watched baseball or basketball for violence.....your comparing apple, oranges and grapefruits.

Football's charm to a degree is the violence.....gladiator sport.

NBA Basketball players are the finest athletes in the world IMO.

Hitting a top line MLB Pitchers is without question in my mind the greatest and hardest thing to do at the highest level.

Football is pure physical force in the trenches opening the holes and creating the highlights for the skill position players and the counter to beating great offensive teams was to beat their WR's and QB's to a pulp and see if they can keep that pace.

Remember 2002 when the Patriots mugged the Colt's and Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne....they beat the living crap out of them on their way to a Super Bowl where they beat the crap out of Torry Holt and Issac Bruce and the greatest show on turf.

That was when Football was football like I knew and loved.

Then the 5 yard BS rule came into play......and records have been falling like dominos. They are pointless with todays rules.

You may get 10 QB's chucking the ball for over 4K yards this year.

Anyway.....the game is still really good. It's just the pace and presentation with all the replays.....all the freaking time is really a drag. And now defenders are afraid of fines hitting high (which is the proper way to tackle...head up shoulder into the mid section) are taking out guys knees.....cutting guys down (Keller) it's just starting. More career are going to end that way if this keeps up.

Ref's don't even trust their own calls anymore because they know every thing of meaning is subject to review.

If they just went back to 2 challenges per team....and you get one extra if you get a play overturned was enough.

It's out of hand now.

I will say it again.....humans play the game and humans referee the games. Sports are not played in HD Slow Motion on the field. Thre spirit of the competition and the spirit of human errorr is being taken out of the equation.

And quite frankly....it stinks and is not the way sports are meant to be played.

I think I have made my point clear.

Technology is gift and curse. Finding the right balance is crucial to keeping the human spirit of competition alive.

the NFL is getting ridiculous in taking away any chance of human error.

Whats wrong with a little controversy......the call is made...with human eyes, at human speed.

***k the machines. ***k the cameras.

I want real sports called by humans.....not camera angles and replays galore sucking the energy and momentum out of live sports. It is not live anymore.....it is pause, rewind, replay.....warm memory chips (he he some of you know where that line is from).

Anyway....rant over.

 
Football's charm to a degree is the violence.....gladiator sport.
Charm to you, but not all of us. Violence is inherent to a sport that requires people to tackle other people, but it's not the primary attraction of the game.

Remember 2002 when the Patriots mugged the Colt's and Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne....they beat the living crap out of them on their way to a Super Bowl where they beat the crap out of Torry Holt and Issac Bruce and the greatest show on turf.

That was when Football was football like I knew and loved.
That was terrible football IMO.

 
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Top 20 shows

Prime-time viewership numbers compiled by Nielsen for Sept. 2-8. Listings include the week's ranking and viewership.

1. NFL football: New York Giants at Dallas, NBC, 25.4 million

2. NFL football: Baltimore at Denver, NBC, 25.13 million

3. NFL Pre-Kick (Thursday), NBC, 18.03 million

4. Football Night in America, NBC, 14.09 million

5. Under the Dome, CBS, 11.15 million

6. Duck Dynasty, A&E, 10.46 million

7. NFL Opening Kick-Off Show (Thursday), NBC, 10.13 million

8. America's Got Talent (Wednesday), NBC, 10.03 million

9. 60 Minutes, CBS, 9.34 million

10. America's Got Talent (Tuesday), NBC, 9.16 million

11. NCIS, CBS, 9.11 million

12. College football: Notre Dame vs. Michigan, ESPN, 8.65 million

13. Big Brother 15 (Sunday), CBS, 7.27 million

14. Big Brother 15 (Thursday), CBS, 7.24 million

15. The Big Bang Theory, CBS, 7.17 million

16. College Football: South Carolina vs. Georgia, ESPN, 7.05 million

17. Big Brother 15 (Wednesday), CBS, 6.75 million

18. NCIS: Los Angeles, CBS, 6.63 million

19. The Simpsons, Fox, 6.4 million

20. Two and a Half Men, CBS, 6.187
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Well, obviously football needs to fix something.

I love that 2002 is the good old days.

 
Top 20 shows

Prime-time viewership numbers compiled by Nielsen for Sept. 2-8. Listings include the week's ranking and viewership.

1. NFL football: New York Giants at Dallas, NBC, 25.4 million

2. NFL football: Baltimore at Denver, NBC, 25.13 million

3. NFL Pre-Kick (Thursday), NBC, 18.03 million

4. Football Night in America, NBC, 14.09 million

5. Under the Dome, CBS, 11.15 million

6. Duck Dynasty, A&E, 10.46 million

7. NFL Opening Kick-Off Show (Thursday), NBC, 10.13 million

8. America's Got Talent (Wednesday), NBC, 10.03 million

9. 60 Minutes, CBS, 9.34 million

10. America's Got Talent (Tuesday), NBC, 9.16 million

11. NCIS, CBS, 9.11 million

12. College football: Notre Dame vs. Michigan, ESPN, 8.65 million

13. Big Brother 15 (Sunday), CBS, 7.27 million

14. Big Brother 15 (Thursday), CBS, 7.24 million

15. The Big Bang Theory, CBS, 7.17 million

16. College Football: South Carolina vs. Georgia, ESPN, 7.05 million

17. Big Brother 15 (Wednesday), CBS, 6.75 million

18. NCIS: Los Angeles, CBS, 6.63 million

19. The Simpsons, Fox, 6.4 million

20. Two and a Half Men, CBS, 6.187
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Well, obviously football needs to fix something.

I love that 2002 is the good old days.
Compared to now....it sure feels like it.

LOL.

 
Football's charm to a degree is the violence.....gladiator sport.
Charm to you, but not all of us. Violence is inherent to a sport that requires people to tackle other people, but it's not the primary attraction of the game.

Remember 2002 when the Patriots mugged the Colt's and Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne....they beat the living crap out of them on their way to a Super Bowl where they beat the crap out of Torry Holt and Issac Bruce and the greatest show on turf.

That was when Football was football like I knew and loved.
That was terrible football IMO.
Your new school.

That is how the game was being played for 50 years.

So let's leave it at that.

 
Todem, have you considered watching rugby? Serious question. Because when I read your posts about what you think football should be...it sounds a lot like what rugby is. Not a knock on you...just an observation.

 
Top 20 shows

Prime-time viewership numbers compiled by Nielsen for Sept. 2-8. Listings include the week's ranking and viewership.

1. NFL football: New York Giants at Dallas, NBC, 25.4 million

2. NFL football: Baltimore at Denver, NBC, 25.13 million

3. NFL Pre-Kick (Thursday), NBC, 18.03 million

4. Football Night in America, NBC, 14.09 million

5. Under the Dome, CBS, 11.15 million

6. Duck Dynasty, A&E, 10.46 million

7. NFL Opening Kick-Off Show (Thursday), NBC, 10.13 million

8. America's Got Talent (Wednesday), NBC, 10.03 million

9. 60 Minutes, CBS, 9.34 million

10. America's Got Talent (Tuesday), NBC, 9.16 million

11. NCIS, CBS, 9.11 million

12. College football: Notre Dame vs. Michigan, ESPN, 8.65 million

13. Big Brother 15 (Sunday), CBS, 7.27 million

14. Big Brother 15 (Thursday), CBS, 7.24 million

15. The Big Bang Theory, CBS, 7.17 million

16. College Football: South Carolina vs. Georgia, ESPN, 7.05 million

17. Big Brother 15 (Wednesday), CBS, 6.75 million

18. NCIS: Los Angeles, CBS, 6.63 million

19. The Simpsons, Fox, 6.4 million

20. Two and a Half Men, CBS, 6.187
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Well, obviously football needs to fix something.
Those numbers don't paint the full picture. Let's just take #2 on the list - Opening Kickoff. Sure - 25.1 million is a great number. We all know that. But how does it stack up to years past?

2010 - Vikings / Saints - 27.5 million

2011 - Saints / Packers - 27.1 million

2012 - Cowboys / Giants - 23.9 million

2013 - Broncos / Ravens - 25.1 million

It had been going down for three straight years and had nowhere to go but up. And 25.1 million is still 10% lower viewership than 3 years ago.

I'm sure the 33 minute weather delay didn't help LOL.

 
General Tso said:
It had been going down for three straight years and had nowhere to go but up. And 25.1 million is still 10% lower viewership than 3 years ago.

I'm sure the 33 minute weather delay didn't help LOL.
Overally viewership of NFL games is up. People aren't stuck with watching only on Neilsen TV channels like they were in the good old days. Try to keep up.

 
General Tso said:
It had been going down for three straight years and had nowhere to go but up. And 25.1 million is still 10% lower viewership than 3 years ago.

I'm sure the 33 minute weather delay didn't help LOL.
Overally viewership of NFL games is up. People aren't stuck with watching only on Neilsen TV channels like they were in the good old days. Try to keep up.
Is there an interpreter in the house? LOL.

 
Steve Tasker said:
Todem, have you considered watching rugby? Serious question. Because when I read your posts about what you think football should be...it sounds a lot like what rugby is. Not a knock on you...just an observation.
Rugby is a great sport. I have watched it plenty in the past....I just don't see it on anywhere much these days.

And what I think football should be....was....for decades upon decades. All of a sudden over the last 2-3 years it has really changed on the defensive side of the ball.

You can't breath on QB's and WR's. It's incredible.

And some Sundays.....the refs let them play more than others....it's not consistent.

I love NFL football. Don't get me wrong....I am just not loving the rule changes and the interpretation of them by most of the ref's in the league. I just don't think the game is as great as it used to be.

That's all.

 

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