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Brad Childress is a complete buffoon (1 Viewer)

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(KFFL) Minnesota Vikings head coach Brad Childress said the team plans on using RB Chester Taylor quite a bit in the last five games. Taylor has been playing in almost every third-down situation and in the two-minute offense. It is not certain how Taylor will be used but the team wants to keep RB Adrian Peterson fresh.
Huh? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?Keep him fresh for what? The offseason? He does realize that he has some BIG, key games coming up that will decide whether or not Minnesota even makes it to the playoffs, right? RIGHT?? And he wants to use AP less in those games? Seriously, how does this bass ackwards thinking allow him to keep a head coaching job on a team that is a legit playoff team when not being held back by the likes of this fool?
 
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Them's fighting words and I am pretty sure you don't want to tangle with 190lbs of twisted steel and rompin', stompin' dynamite.

 
Them's fighting words and I am pretty sure you don't want to tangle with 190lbs of twisted steel and rompin', stompin' dynamite.
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Them's fighting words and I am pretty sure you don't want to tangle with 190lbs of twisted steel and rompin', stompin' dynamite.
:excited: Vs. Bears@ Lions@ Arizonavs. Falconsvs. NYGThe only real gimme game there is @ Lions but we all saw how Vikings struggled to beat that team in Minnesota earlier this season so I'm not sure what Childress is thinking. :confused:
 
I am with you Childress just doesn't get it. He shouldn't have a job next year.

Why does Minn seem to gravitate towards the dumb ones?

 
Exactly. He's kept AP fresh all year using Chester in a variety of situations (like really important ones).

This is when he should be unleashing Peterson to run wild and carry Minn to the playoffs. But, true to form, Chili zigs when he should zag.

 
Peterson owner and Vike fan, and I support the idea of using Chester more, he made several good plays yesterday we're lucky to have two great backs on the team. However... He's historically underutilized Peterson and simply makes the worst decisions a coach could make. If the game is on the line and you're still "resting" Adrian Peterson you're a fool.

I would appreciate Chilly if he'd give me some rest by getting the team's passing offense and special teams squared away so it wasn't necessary to LEAN on Adrian Peterson and the Defense to win games.

 
The story I heard is that RB Peterson was very tardy for a weekday team meeting. Missing much of the 1st qtr was a response to his actions.

 
The story I heard is that RB Peterson was very tardy for a weekday team meeting. Missing much of the 1st qtr was a response to his actions.
That's accurate, but the OP is referring to Childress' upcoming gameplanning for the rest of the season.
 
Peterson owner and Vike fan, and I support the idea of using Chester more, he made several good plays yesterday we're lucky to have two great backs on the team. However... He's historically underutilized Peterson and simply makes the worst decisions a coach could make. If the game is on the line and you're still "resting" Adrian Peterson you're a fool.I would appreciate Chilly if he'd give me some rest by getting the team's passing offense and special teams squared away so it wasn't necessary to LEAN on Adrian Peterson and the Defense to win games.
ADP owner and Vikes fan. I agree, Taylor SHOULD be used a lot more than he is. However, I DON'T think that they should reduce ADP's work. We should be running the ball like crazy and wearing down the defensive line. By the end of the game ADP and Taylor should be able to have their way with them. Two back formations anyone?We need to "throw" away the passing game. It has been "incomplete" all year. Chilly is "intentionally grounding" the Vikes chances. I could go on... :thumbup:
 
Apparently Childress hasn't heard of a certain 10-1 team that has been using a two-back system the way he should. Any fool should be able to see that the times when this team has become totally ineffective is when they've been behind, don't have ADP on the field and become blatantly obvious they're passing.

 
I am with you Childress just doesn't get it. He shouldn't have a job next year.

Why does Minn seem to gravitate towards the dumb ones?
This is the state that had Jesse Ventura as it's Governor. I live in MN, and some say that was a good thing :unsure:
 
Didn't want to start a new WHINY thread about this...

As a Peterson owner I'm fairly certain I'm going to punch Childress in the face if I ever see him at the supermarket.

1st and goal inside the 1.... fake to Peterson, Favre drops back... gets sacked at the 11 yard line.

Wow, what CLEVER playcalling! Such a delicate genius!!! :goodposting:

And this has happened multiple times this year. If you don't trust the (now) second-best running back in the NFL to get three inches on the goal line, trade him to a team who will utilize him properly. Not to mention that Chester Taylor MUST see the field every other play!!!

Favre threw 48 times and Peterson ran 25 times in a game they led comfortably wire to wire. That percentage was FAR more out of whack prior to the 4th quarter. Peterson finally got some mercy carries in garbage time after Chilly's new Boy Toy had been fully pacified and orally serviced.

Rant over. ;) Feel free to make fun of me now.

 
I hate when coaches do not take FF owners into consideration.
1st and goal from the 1/2 yard line, you have Adrian Peterson you run the ball. I'm glad Farve was sacked for a big loss on that play........that was nothing short of stupidity. There is such a thing as out thinking yourself and he did it, regardless of them winning the game because they have better players.When Minny is dominating a game, yes you can plan on seeing Taylor in the game. Taylor's been effective and I can see the logic in keeping him fresh as possible. In games that are close, plan on seeing plenty of ADP. The problem is Minny seems that much better than just about everyone on their schedule and and there's no real reason to run ADP hard at the end of games.The 1st and goal at the .5 yard line with ADP in the lineup and they get sacked tells me a lot about their play calling though.
 
Worst 10-1 coach ever. Wait until they play a team with a pulse.

Of their ten wins, they beat one team with a winning record (Green Bay twice) and their lone loss was to the other team on their schedule who currently has a winning record (Pittsburgh). Their other victories? St. Louis, Seattle, Chicago, Detroit (twice), Cleveland, Baltimore (thanks to a missed chip-shot FG), and San Francisco (on a last-second miracle pass).

Don't get me wrong... you can only beat the teams on your schedule, and I give them credit for that. But I'll be betting against them every game they play in the postseason. Chilly's stupidity alone gives me a fighting chance at winning money.

 
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Peterson owner and Vike fan, and I support the idea of using Chester more, he made several good plays yesterday we're lucky to have two great backs on the team. However... He's historically underutilized Peterson and simply makes the worst decisions a coach could make. If the game is on the line and you're still "resting" Adrian Peterson you're a fool.I would appreciate Chilly if he'd give me some rest by getting the team's passing offense and special teams squared away so it wasn't necessary to LEAN on Adrian Peterson and the Defense to win games.
Viking fan here and I support Childress too. Taylor is very talented and the last thing we need is for ADP to get injured. One thing Taylor does better is protect the ball.
 
Worst 10-1 coach ever. Wait until they play a team with a pulse.

Of their ten wins, they beat one team with a winning record (Green Bay twice) and their lone loss was to the other team on their schedule who currently has a winning record (Pittsburgh). Their other victories? St. Louis, Seattle, Chicago, Detroit (twice), Cleveland, Baltimore (thanks to a missed chip-shot FG), and San Francisco (on a last-second miracle pass).

Don't get me wrong... you can only beat the teams on your schedule, and I give them credit for that. But I'll be betting against them every game they play in the postseason. Chilly's stupidity alone gives me a fighting chance at winning money.
This came across far more petty than I intended. I actually root for the Vikes. I've stated several times that they are "my NFC team" and I like it when they field a good squad.The coach just royally frustrates me... that's all. No offense intended to the fine Minnesota fans. :goodposting:

 
Taylor looked really solid on a day that ADP was rattled after 2 fumbles. Chester is smooth on pass plays, runs with better patience than ADP, and is very reliable in the game.

On the other hand, fantasy owners need to be realistic about all this. ADP is by far the workhorse back, and will work out the fumbling problems. Taylor fantasy owners should sell high rather than count on eating into Pederson's workload. But Minnesota does have 2 very good backs this year, and should use both down the stretch in a way that maximizes the talent of each.

 
I don't know what you're on about with this "critical stretch of games to determine if they make the playoffs" talk, they're 10-1, I'd say they're in pretty good shape.

 
I'm sure that Childress will be weeping for all you ADP owners while he is cashing all those paychecks his contract extension provides.

Let's bottom-line it: Brett Favre is there because of Childress. Childress runs his type of offense. He could go to Philadelphia, but Philadelphia is at minimum two deep at QB. For what Childress messes up by using a darn good back in Chester Taylor instead of your beloved ADP, bringing in Favre is far, far, far more important. There are idiots in this equation, but it's not the people running a team in Minnesota.

 
At some point in this season Childress will ask Favre to do something that will cost the team a victory, instead of just going with conventional wisdom and running the ball.

Childress did it a handful of times last year with Ferrotte inside the 10, throwing instead of running. Childress's play calling is questionable at best.

For Childress's sake he better hope he's offered an extension now because it is Favre and ADP winning games dispite Childress calling the plays. If Favre doesn't come to Minn. this team is 6-4 and once Favre leaves this team goes back to being average with a shot at the playoffs because of the division they play in. If Childress wants the big money he better get it now.

 
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At some point in this season Childress will ask Favre to do something that will cost the team a victory, instead of just going with conventional wisdom and running the ball. Childress did it a handful of times last year with Ferrotte inside the 10, throwing instead of running. Childress's play calling is questionable at best.For Childress's sake he better hope he's offered an extension now because it is Favre and ADP winning games dispite Childress calling the plays. If Favre doesn't come to Minn. this team is 6-4 and once Favre leaves this team goes back to being average with a shot at the playoffs because of the division they play in. If Childress wants the big money he better get it now.
:thumbup: DO you watch the games? The Vikings have thrown the ball often inside the 10 this year and likely more than ever under Childress.Oh....Childress got his contract extension earlier this month too.
 
For Childress's sake he better hope he's offered an extension now because it is Favre and ADP winning games dispite Childress calling the plays. If Favre doesn't come to Minn. this team is 6-4 and once Favre leaves this team goes back to being average with a shot at the playoffs because off the division they play in. If Childress wants the big money he better get it now.
He got his extension a week or two ago. That point aside though:A. Yes, Childress is a buffoon for the most part. He actually got a challenge right today though and didn't waste any timeouts that I saw (had to eat dinner halfway into the third quarter), so maybe there's a small glimmer of hope? :thumbup:B. What's even more important is that the Vikings parlay this bit of success with Favre into a key free agent signing or two next Spring. Childress is probably thinking that TJax is still the future QB of this team (ugh)...but maybe if we can plug a few more holes with some lights-out studs and draft a couple more players, we can compensate for the suck that will once again be the Vikings QB position.
 
For everyone killing Childress on the playcalling...Bevell calls the plays, not Childress...send him your hate mail...

 
For everyone killing Childress on the playcalling...Bevell calls the plays, not Childress...send him your hate mail...
Childress is still the headcoach. If he's allowing Bevell to call that ridiculous play from 1st and goal from the 6 inch line instead of giving it to arguably the best RB in the league, then it's on him. It's not the 1st time Minnesota has gotten cute from the goalline.
 
OMG...How can anyone ##### about a 10-1 team??

Try being a Lion fan. Childress should be a God in Minny for bringing Farve in.

 
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Peterson owner and Vike fan, and I support the idea of using Chester more, he made several good plays yesterday we're lucky to have two great backs on the team. However... He's historically underutilized Peterson and simply makes the worst decisions a coach could make. If the game is on the line and you're still "resting" Adrian Peterson you're a fool.

I would appreciate Chilly if he'd give me some rest by getting the team's passing offense and special teams squared away so it wasn't necessary to LEAN on Adrian Peterson and the Defense to win games.
Viking fan here and I support Childress too. Taylor is very talented and the last thing we need is for ADP to get injured. One thing Taylor does better is protect the ball.
Yeah. This season, I am really perplexed as to why Peterson is "struggling" the way he is. The team has noticed, and wants to work on the negative / nada gain rushes because they are above and beyond what they need to be. I have no problem with the Vikings spelling Peterson when he's having trouble and letting Taylor make some headway. It really seems like teams don't know how to play Chester the way they plan for Adrian. But re: bolded, I think Childress has done that. He might not have had much more to do with it than bringing in Favre and letting ST coach Ferraro leave. But even while teams are taking Adrian Peterson out of the gameplan, the rest of the team is capable of making up for it.
 
Worst 10-1 coach ever. Wait until they play a team with a pulse.

Of their ten wins, they beat one team with a winning record (Green Bay twice) and their lone loss was to the other team on their schedule who currently has a winning record (Pittsburgh). Their other victories? St. Louis, Seattle, Chicago, Detroit (twice), Cleveland, Baltimore (thanks to a missed chip-shot FG), and San Francisco (on a last-second miracle pass).

Don't get me wrong... you can only beat the teams on your schedule, and I give them credit for that. But I'll be betting against them every game they play in the postseason. Chilly's stupidity alone gives me a fighting chance at winning money.
This came across far more petty than I intended. I actually root for the Vikes. I've stated several times that they are "my NFC team" and I like it when they field a good squad.The coach just royally frustrates me... that's all. No offense intended to the fine Minnesota fans. :shrug:
Just so you know, nobody cares.
 
This season, I am really perplexed as to why Peterson is "struggling" the way he is.
It looks to me like he simply can't get enough early carries to get into a groove.Last year with subpar QBs, AD was the show. Now Favre throws it seemingly every play. There is no flow to the run game.
 
I would not bash him for resting ADP some...he will be needed.

They are an easy shoe in for the playoffs the way the schedule works out and how they are playing...and their lead in the division.

Especially when they clinch a bye...which should not take too long really...whats the harm in resting some key guys some?

 
For everyone killing Childress on the playcalling...Bevell calls the plays, not Childress...send him your hate mail...
Does Bevell actually call the plays?In Philly, Childress rarely did...Reid called most plays. With Bevell (granted its been a few years) having been a 1st time OC who had never gotten anywhere near calling plays before, would not be too out of the question that Childress would be calling plays. Many offensive minded head coaches do.
 
This season, I am really perplexed as to why Peterson is "struggling" the way he is.
It looks to me like he simply can't get enough early carries to get into a groove.Last year with subpar QBs, AD was the show. Now Favre throws it seemingly every play. There is no flow to the run game.
Only FF players care about flow, the Vikes are 10-1.
 
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gianmarco said:
Raider Nation said:
ScottyFargo said:
This season, I am really perplexed as to why Peterson is "struggling" the way he is.
It looks to me like he simply can't get enough early carries to get into a groove.Last year with subpar QBs, AD was the show. Now Favre throws it seemingly every play. There is no flow to the run game.
This is my impression as well.
My 2 cents:1. They need to tell Peterson to hug the ball. I remember years back watching a report on how they fixed Tiki Barber's fumbling. There are three spots on the football that need to be in contact with three parts of the body: the forearm, bicep, and chest. Right now Peterson's carrying the football solely by its nose. IMO tucking it would help a lot and it would be worth learning at the cost of altering his running style.2. Speaking of altering his style, I've heard several times on the radio and on TV interviews that the coaches have been working on getting Peterson to be more patient, saying that he could break more, longer runs if he let's his blocking get completely set up. I think this may be a problem with some of his runs getting stuffed the way they do. This was evident in watching the game yesterday, but sometimes he just has to head for open field or try smashing through the line as quickly and as hard as possible to get whatever yardage he can. Right now he's really boom or bust, and I don't think most fantasy players realize that unless they watch the games.
 

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