Brady Quinn shreds Detroit's 18th-string defense (1 Viewer)

[Raider Nation]

13 for 20, 155 yards, 2/0

He appears ready to be at least as good as Aaron Rodgers.

 

[Vision6]

all those games @ Notre Dame vs those tough Navy, Army, and Air force D's really prepared him for NFL

 

[Capella]

at the thread title.

 

[Stunt Rock]

Woot, ladies and gentlemen, get yo ##### out.

 

[John Black]

I heard for the next game they plan on playing him much sooner.

THE END OF THE THIRD QUARTER

 

[cantrell]

at the thread title.

 

[delusional]

For a guy ROOKIE who JUST got to camp i would say he did better then expected no matter what string he was facing.

 

[SteelerMurf]

For a guy ROOKIE who JUST got to camp i would say he did better then expected no matter what string he was facing.

Yep, he throws the best 5 yard flat pass to a RB I have ever seen for a rookie.

 

[schaef2k]

For a guy ROOKIE who JUST got to camp i would say he did better then expected no matter what string he was facing.

Yep, he throws the best 5 yard flat pass to a RB I have ever seen for a rookie.

Not comment on the first TD?, rolling right, throwing on the run and hitting Hill for a TD? What do you expect? His first NFL action and he comes in, shows great command of the huddle and drives his team down the field for a TD. His first series Detroit was not in prevent and he made his reads and made no mistakes. Second series, Detroit is in full prevent, Quinn takes what is given and dumps to the RB and drives for a 2nd TD.

The point is he made no mistakes and had great command in the huddle and at the line. Was it against scrubs? Yep. Was he playing with scrubs? Yep.

What else could he have done? I don't understand why everyone is baggin on him. Nobody is say he's the second coming of Montana. Just that he played very well when he got in the game.

 

[OCC]

People generally dislike others who are better looking and have more money.

He'll be a good NFL QB.

 

[jurb26]

People generally dislike others who are better looking and have more money.

No they don't. If they did, there would be no Hollywood.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

The TD pass was solid. He made a couple of other nice plays. But the bulk of his completions were passes in the flat to wide open RBs, as the Lions were in a prevent defense.

I think he was pretty impressive overall, especially since he just signed. But let's be real here. He played a prevent defense and threw most of his passes to wide open RBs in the flat. And did not face any pass rush, and no blitzing.

Oh, he played against the 3rd/4th string defense too.

 

[SteelerMurf]

For a guy ROOKIE who JUST got to camp i would say he did better then expected no matter what string he was facing.

Yep, he throws the best 5 yard flat pass to a RB I have ever seen for a rookie.

Not comment on the first TD?, rolling right, throwing on the run and hitting Hill for a TD? What do you expect? His first NFL action and he comes in, shows great command of the huddle and drives his team down the field for a TD. His first series Detroit was not in prevent and he made his reads and made no mistakes. Second series, Detroit is in full prevent, Quinn takes what is given and dumps to the RB and drives for a 2nd TD.

The point is he made no mistakes and had great command in the huddle and at the line. Was it against scrubs? Yep. Was he playing with scrubs? Yep.

What else could he have done? I don't understand why everyone is baggin on him. Nobody is say he's the second coming of Montana. Just that he played very well when he got in the game.

The first touchdown drive....a 30 yard screen pass to a RB.....a ball bounces off another guy into the arms of a Cleveland Brown.....a nice play for him to roll out and avoid the rush for the TD pass. But it wasn't as everyone is making it out to be especially when the defense was playing so soft. Quinn is the golden boy of the media and they are going to make this out to be more than it was. Seriously, you can't take a single thing out of that last drive other than he was composed. He literally threw all but one pass to the RB on the drive. They weren't dumpoffs either, it was his first look basically just waiting long enough for him to get 5 yards down field and turnaround.

Brady played as good as he possibly could have in that situation. But that last drive was an absolute joke.

 

[Ozymandias]

Will he make the Hall of Fame this year, or does he have to wait 5 years?

 

[Bracie Smathers]

People generally dislike others who are better looking and have more money.

No they don't. If they did, there would be no Hollywood.

Hollywood is make believe, the NFL is what it is.A Raider fan starting this thread? How's yer boi JaMarcus doing? Smirk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[schaef2k]

He played a prevent defense and threw most of his passes to wide open RBs in the flat. And did not face any pass rush, and no blitzing.

That's not true. His first drive the Lions were blitzing after the Browns moved down to their 30 and not in prevent. The second drive was garbage time mop up against a prevent D.What could he have done better?

 

[Jiggyonthehut]

Hollywood is make believe, the NFL is what it is.

Well done Shakespeare.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

He played a prevent defense and threw most of his passes to wide open RBs in the flat. And did not face any pass rush, and no blitzing.

That's not true. His first drive the Lions were blitzing after the Browns moved down to their 30 and not in prevent. The second drive was garbage time mop up against a prevent D.What could he have done better?

The Lions played prevent both drives. The passes were to RBs. There was no pass rush. I don't recall a single blitz. I'm not saying he didn't play well, I'm saying you can't judge him on mop up duty. He did not throw downfield. Anderson and Frye could have thrown to the RBs in the flat.

 

[Buckeyedawgs]

rookie or not his time will come sooner rather then later. More so because of his competition. Both have to go! They are terrible!

Dawg him all you want steeler fans out there! He will be whooping yout butt soon!

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

rookie or not his time will come sooner rather then later. More so because of his competition. Both have to go! They are terrible! Dawg him all you want steeler fans out there! He will be whooping yout butt soon!

I will be ecstatic if he can win the starter's job by the season opener against the Steelers.

 

[BGP]

Quinn just got into camp and ran a hurry-up offense flawlessly on his first drive. He threw lots of passes to RBs in the flat, altho he did throw some downfield as well and read the defense correctly and found the open guy with an accurate ball. The first TD pass, he looked off the defense for a long time. Look left, look left, look left, suddenly scramble right, look right, zip a ball to the WR in single-coverage to the right, TD.

Brady Quinn has been knocked for accuracy issues. The 2-point conversion was a bit inaccurate altho it could be viewed as a "good incompletion" in that he put the ball in a spot where either his receiver was going to catch it or it was going to fall incomplete. No chance to be picked off. Of course the defense cannot score on a try so an interception is the same as an incompletion, but it was good practice for preseason. Almost all of his other incompletions were spiking the ball to stop the clock.

What we learned from this performance is that Brady Quinn obviously is a quick study, isn't intimidated by the NFL and so far the accuracy concerns may be a bit overblown. And we'll have to see if he can keep it up from here. I don't think this changes his fantasy value much.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

1-10-CLV 37 (9:20) #10 Quinn in as qb (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short left to 34-C.Barclay pushed ob at DET 33 for 30 yards (58-J.Baldwin).

1-10-DET 33 (8:51) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short left to 34-C.Barclay to DET 29 for 4 yards (32-D.McCann).

2-6-DET 29 (8:28) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 87-D.Dinkins to DET 22 for 7 yards (38-R.Robinson).

1-10-DET 22 (8:01) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short right to 8-M.Mann pushed ob at DET 11 for 11 yards (33-A.Davis).

1-10-DET 11 (7:30) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 12-S.Steptoe to DET 4 for 7 yards (57-J.Lobendahn).

2-3-DET 4 (6:49) 10-B.Quinn pass incomplete to 5-E.Hill (41-T.Beckham).

3-3-DET 4 (6:46) 10-B.Quinn pass short right to 5-E.Hill for 4 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

TWO-POINT CONVERSION ATTEMPT. 10-B.Quinn pass is incomplete. ATTEMPT FAILS.

First drive, all completions were short passes.

1-10-CLV 8 (2:10) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short left to 35-J.Harrison to CLV 17 for 9 yards (57-J.Lobendahn).

Two-Minute Warning

2-1-CLV 17 (2:00) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 35-J.Harrison to CLV 33 for 16 yards (38-R.Robinson).

1-10-CLV 33 (1:39) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass incomplete short left to 35-J.Harrison.

2-10-CLV 33 (1:36) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 35-J.Harrison to CLV 47 for 14 yards (38-R.Robinson).

1-10-CLV 47 (1:17) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

2-10-CLV 47 (1:17) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass deep middle to 83-S.Sanders to DET 29 for 24 yards (35-I.Charlton).

1-10-DET 29 59) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

2-10-DET 29 59) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass incomplete short left to 35-J.Harrison.

3-10-DET 29 54) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 35-J.Harrison to DET 19 for 10 yards (57-J.Lobendahn).

1-10-DET 19 54) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

2-10-DET 19 38) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 29-J.Wright to DET 6 for 13 yards (57-J.Lobendahn).

1-6-DET 6 38) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

2-6-DET 6 24) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 35-J.Harrison for 6 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

Second drive, all completed passes except one were short passes.

Eight of his completions were to RBs in the flat. He completed ONE deep pass.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

1-10-CLV 37 (9:20) #10 Quinn in as qb (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short left to 34-C.Barclay pushed ob at DET 33 for 30 yards (58-J.Baldwin).

1-10-DET 33 (8:51) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short left to 34-C.Barclay to DET 29 for 4 yards (32-D.McCann).

2-6-DET 29 (8:28) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 87-D.Dinkins to DET 22 for 7 yards (38-R.Robinson).

1-10-DET 22 (8:01) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short right to 8-M.Mann pushed ob at DET 11 for 11 yards (33-A.Davis).

1-10-DET 11 (7:30) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 12-S.Steptoe to DET 4 for 7 yards (57-J.Lobendahn).

2-3-DET 4 (6:49) 10-B.Quinn pass incomplete to 5-E.Hill (41-T.Beckham).

3-3-DET 4 (6:46) 10-B.Quinn pass short right to 5-E.Hill for 4 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

TWO-POINT CONVERSION ATTEMPT. 10-B.Quinn pass is incomplete. ATTEMPT FAILS.

First drive, all completions were short passes.

1-10-CLV 8 (2:10) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short left to 35-J.Harrison to CLV 17 for 9 yards (57-J.Lobendahn).

Two-Minute Warning

2-1-CLV 17 (2:00) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 35-J.Harrison to CLV 33 for 16 yards (38-R.Robinson).

1-10-CLV 33 (1:39) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass incomplete short left to 35-J.Harrison.

2-10-CLV 33 (1:36) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 35-J.Harrison to CLV 47 for 14 yards (38-R.Robinson).

1-10-CLV 47 (1:17) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

2-10-CLV 47 (1:17) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass deep middle to 83-S.Sanders to DET 29 for 24 yards (35-I.Charlton).

1-10-DET 29 59) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

2-10-DET 29 59) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass incomplete short left to 35-J.Harrison.

3-10-DET 29 54) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 35-J.Harrison to DET 19 for 10 yards (57-J.Lobendahn).

1-10-DET 19 54) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

2-10-DET 19 38) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 29-J.Wright to DET 6 for 13 yards (57-J.Lobendahn).

1-6-DET 6 38) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

2-6-DET 6 24) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 35-J.Harrison for 6 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

Second drive, all completed passes except one were short passes.

Eight of his completions were to RBs in the flat. He completed ONE deep pass.

Jesus Christ people, it was his first game. Give the dude a break.....

 

[chris1969]

1-10-CLV 37 (9:20) #10 Quinn in as qb (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short left to 34-C.Barclay pushed ob at DET 33 for 30 yards (58-J.Baldwin).

1-10-DET 33 (8:51) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short left to 34-C.Barclay to DET 29 for 4 yards (32-D.McCann).

2-6-DET 29 (8:28) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 87-D.Dinkins to DET 22 for 7 yards (38-R.Robinson).

1-10-DET 22 (8:01) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short right to 8-M.Mann pushed ob at DET 11 for 11 yards (33-A.Davis).

1-10-DET 11 (7:30) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 12-S.Steptoe to DET 4 for 7 yards (57-J.Lobendahn).

2-3-DET 4 (6:49) 10-B.Quinn pass incomplete to 5-E.Hill (41-T.Beckham).

3-3-DET 4 (6:46) 10-B.Quinn pass short right to 5-E.Hill for 4 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

TWO-POINT CONVERSION ATTEMPT. 10-B.Quinn pass is incomplete. ATTEMPT FAILS.

First drive, all completions were short passes.

1-10-CLV 8 (2:10) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short left to 35-J.Harrison to CLV 17 for 9 yards (57-J.Lobendahn).

Two-Minute Warning

2-1-CLV 17 (2:00) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 35-J.Harrison to CLV 33 for 16 yards (38-R.Robinson).

1-10-CLV 33 (1:39) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass incomplete short left to 35-J.Harrison.

2-10-CLV 33 (1:36) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 35-J.Harrison to CLV 47 for 14 yards (38-R.Robinson).

1-10-CLV 47 (1:17) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

2-10-CLV 47 (1:17) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass deep middle to 83-S.Sanders to DET 29 for 24 yards (35-I.Charlton).

1-10-DET 29 59) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

2-10-DET 29 59) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass incomplete short left to 35-J.Harrison.

3-10-DET 29 54) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 35-J.Harrison to DET 19 for 10 yards (57-J.Lobendahn).

1-10-DET 19 54) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

2-10-DET 19 38) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 29-J.Wright to DET 6 for 13 yards (57-J.Lobendahn).

1-6-DET 6 38) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

2-6-DET 6 24) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 35-J.Harrison for 6 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

Second drive, all completed passes except one were short passes.

Eight of his completions were to RBs in the flat. He completed ONE deep pass.

Those are exactly the passes he should have made against a prevent defense. Everyone is right! He's playing against Detroit's 3rd string defense playing prevent so we shouldn't crown him, but a rookie that's had a week and a half of practice looked surprising poised and made all the right decisions in his first game. If you subtract his 4 spikes he went 17/20. I think he earned a look against some first teamers in pre-season. He took advantage of what he was given and did well. What exactly did everybody else see that makes him a bad QB?

 

[BGP]

Those are exactly the passes he should have made against a prevent defense. Everyone is right! He's playing against Detroit's 3rd string defense playing prevent so we shouldn't crown him, but a rookie that's had a week and a half of practice looked surprising poised and made all the right decisions in his first game. If you subtract his 4 spikes he went 17/20. I think he earned a look against some first teamers in pre-season. He took advantage of what he was given and did well. What exactly did everybody else see that makes him a bad QB?

Quinn excelled at what he was asked to do. But really we all know we are going to judge him based on his real-game work over his first 2-3 seasons. It was a good sign. Browns fans had a lot of fun watching him last nite. But that's pretty much it.

 

[FairWarning]

all those games @ Notre Dame vs those tough Navy, Army, and Air force D's really prepared him for NFL

How about The UCLA D that SHUT DOWN USC?

 

[BGP]

Disclaimer on me: I'm a 20-year Browns fan. I drafted Brady Quinn very late.

I had fun watching him. So did the fans at the game. But it was just a couple drives and reacting to it too strongly is probably the only wrong move. Wether he played extremely well (he did) or stunk up the stadium, it shouldn't be given much weight.

 

[amnesiac]

i thought he showed good composure, good decision making, and decent accuracy.

he did everything that was asked of him.

a good start. actually looking forward to seeing what else he can do.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

1-10-CLV 37 (9:20) #10 Quinn in as qb (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short left to 34-C.Barclay pushed ob at DET 33 for 30 yards (58-J.Baldwin).

1-10-DET 33 (8:51) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short left to 34-C.Barclay to DET 29 for 4 yards (32-D.McCann).

2-6-DET 29 (8:28) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 87-D.Dinkins to DET 22 for 7 yards (38-R.Robinson).

1-10-DET 22 (8:01) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short right to 8-M.Mann pushed ob at DET 11 for 11 yards (33-A.Davis).

1-10-DET 11 (7:30) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 12-S.Steptoe to DET 4 for 7 yards (57-J.Lobendahn).

2-3-DET 4 (6:49) 10-B.Quinn pass incomplete to 5-E.Hill (41-T.Beckham).

3-3-DET 4 (6:46) 10-B.Quinn pass short right to 5-E.Hill for 4 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

TWO-POINT CONVERSION ATTEMPT. 10-B.Quinn pass is incomplete. ATTEMPT FAILS.

First drive, all completions were short passes.

1-10-CLV 8 (2:10) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short left to 35-J.Harrison to CLV 17 for 9 yards (57-J.Lobendahn).

Two-Minute Warning

2-1-CLV 17 (2:00) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 35-J.Harrison to CLV 33 for 16 yards (38-R.Robinson).

1-10-CLV 33 (1:39) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass incomplete short left to 35-J.Harrison.

2-10-CLV 33 (1:36) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 35-J.Harrison to CLV 47 for 14 yards (38-R.Robinson).

1-10-CLV 47 (1:17) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

2-10-CLV 47 (1:17) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass deep middle to 83-S.Sanders to DET 29 for 24 yards (35-I.Charlton).

1-10-DET 29 59) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

2-10-DET 29 59) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass incomplete short left to 35-J.Harrison.

3-10-DET 29 54) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 35-J.Harrison to DET 19 for 10 yards (57-J.Lobendahn).

1-10-DET 19 54) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

2-10-DET 19 38) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 29-J.Wright to DET 6 for 13 yards (57-J.Lobendahn).

1-6-DET 6 38) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

2-6-DET 6 24) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 35-J.Harrison for 6 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

Second drive, all completed passes except one were short passes.

Eight of his completions were to RBs in the flat. He completed ONE deep pass.

Jesus Christ people, it was his first game. Give the dude a break.....

I don't see anyone criticizing him, but this is important enough to know, especially considering some of the comments being made about how great he played. He played well, but you have to temper the enthusiasm based on the facts. He threw one pass downfield. He threw most to RBs in the flat, against 3rd and 4th string players, in a prevent defense, with little to no pass rush. I won't take away from his composure, but seriously, how hard is it to throw most of your passes in the flat against a prevent defense?I thought he was decent, but he didn't throw downfield, nor did he face a pass rush.

 

[steelcityman]

or GATech, Michigan, MSU, Penn St, etc, etc, etc...no team in America will play a tougher schedule this year than ND. Anyone who questions it is jealous or pissed than ND beats their team(see Mark May on the 4 letter network).

I guess playing Navy, who wins 8 games a year and plays in a bowl, is worse than playing the bottom feeder from the MAC who goes 2-10 or some D-II school from Arkansas who's town you cant find on a map.

As for Quinn vs 18th string, well at least he is playing now, and not getting fat and changing agents being the last player NOT TO SIGN for one of the worst teams in the NFL right now. Cant blame the guy. He knows for that however long he signs a contract, he will be miserable....might as well get big time coin.

...and I am a Steeler fan, and will cheer Brady for 14 weeks a year, but he and the Browns have a long way to go to beat the Steelers annually. Dont go swimming in the deep water yet Brown fans.

 

[intrinsic]

If you watch Eagles games, even Mcnabb has a tendency to throw 5 yard completions at open player's feet at times. I don't know why some of you are knocking 5 to 10 yard completions as if they are gimmes.

With limited knowledge of the system, in a hurry up offense, setting all 1st appearance jitters aside, he was hitting the open guy and getting his team down the field. He could have easily under or overthrow a few of those passes, his team might have gone 3 & out, and he would have had nothing to show for it. Instead he got his group of bench warmers into the endzone twice in short succession against the other teams group of bench warmers. Thats laughable?

I think this hate is reactionary based on his hold out.

I'm not even a cleveland fan but i'm excited for them because, perhaps finally, they have a decent QB option in a long time.

 

[Raider Nation]

A Raider fan starting this thread? How's yer boi JaMarcus doing? Smirk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Which QB would you rather build your franchise around?Think carefully before you answer... you're on the Truth-O-Meter!

 

[Anthony Borbely]

A Raider fan starting this thread? How's yer boi JaMarcus doing? Smirk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Which QB would you rather build your franchise around?Think carefully before you answer... you're on the Truth-O-Meter!

I think you got him there.

 

[SofaKings]

all those games @ Notre Dame vs those tough Navy, Army, and Air force D's really prepared him for NFL

Here's hoping you aren't a regular poster around here with that kind of insightful analysis.

 

[Koya]

People generally dislike others who are better looking and have more money.He'll be a good NFL QB.

I admit, he has one of the two on me.

 

[Koya]

People generally dislike others who are better looking and have more money.He'll be a good NFL QB.

I admit, he has one of the two on me.

 

[BuckeyeArt]

1-10-CLV 37 (9:20) #10 Quinn in as qb (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short left to 34-C.Barclay pushed ob at DET 33 for 30 yards (58-J.Baldwin).

1-10-DET 33 (8:51) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short left to 34-C.Barclay to DET 29 for 4 yards (32-D.McCann).

2-6-DET 29 (8:28) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 87-D.Dinkins to DET 22 for 7 yards (38-R.Robinson).

1-10-DET 22 (8:01) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short right to 8-M.Mann pushed ob at DET 11 for 11 yards (33-A.Davis).

1-10-DET 11 (7:30) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 12-S.Steptoe to DET 4 for 7 yards (57-J.Lobendahn).

2-3-DET 4 (6:49) 10-B.Quinn pass incomplete to 5-E.Hill (41-T.Beckham).

3-3-DET 4 (6:46) 10-B.Quinn pass short right to 5-E.Hill for 4 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

TWO-POINT CONVERSION ATTEMPT. 10-B.Quinn pass is incomplete. ATTEMPT FAILS.

First drive, all completions were short passes.

1-10-CLV 8 (2:10) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short left to 35-J.Harrison to CLV 17 for 9 yards (57-J.Lobendahn).

Two-Minute Warning

2-1-CLV 17 (2:00) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 35-J.Harrison to CLV 33 for 16 yards (38-R.Robinson).

1-10-CLV 33 (1:39) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass incomplete short left to 35-J.Harrison.

2-10-CLV 33 (1:36) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 35-J.Harrison to CLV 47 for 14 yards (38-R.Robinson).

1-10-CLV 47 (1:17) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

2-10-CLV 47 (1:17) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass deep middle to 83-S.Sanders to DET 29 for 24 yards (35-I.Charlton).

1-10-DET 29 59) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

2-10-DET 29 59) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass incomplete short left to 35-J.Harrison.

3-10-DET 29 54) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 35-J.Harrison to DET 19 for 10 yards (57-J.Lobendahn).

1-10-DET 19 54) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

2-10-DET 19 38) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 29-J.Wright to DET 6 for 13 yards (57-J.Lobendahn).

1-6-DET 6 38) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

2-6-DET 6 24) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 35-J.Harrison for 6 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

Second drive, all completed passes except one were short passes.

Eight of his completions were to RBs in the flat. He completed ONE deep pass.

Jesus Christ people, it was his first game. Give the dude a break.....

I don't see anyone criticizing him, but this is important enough to know, especially considering some of the comments being made about how great he played. He played well, but you have to temper the enthusiasm based on the facts. He threw one pass downfield. He threw most to RBs in the flat, against 3rd and 4th string players, in a prevent defense, with little to no pass rush. I won't take away from his composure, but seriously, how hard is it to throw most of your passes in the flat against a prevent defense?I thought he was decent, but he didn't throw downfield, nor did he face a pass rush.

You should also point out that he was playing with the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th string RB's, 3rd, 4th, and 5th string WR's, and likely the 2nd or 3rd string offensive line.

 

[Tom Cody]

A Raider fan starting this thread? How's yer boi JaMarcus doing? Smirk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Which QB would you rather build your franchise around?Think carefully before you answer... you're on the Truth-O-Meter!

While I am in no way considered a Quinn fan I honestly believe that I'd rather build a franchise around Brady than Jamarcus. I'll take his overall body of work at Notre Dame and working with Weiss for two years over a great half season and spectacular bowl game over a lousy defense. Russell has a great arm........so does Jeff George.

 

[chris1969]

1-10-CLV 37 (9:20) #10 Quinn in as qb (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short left to 34-C.Barclay pushed ob at DET 33 for 30 yards (58-J.Baldwin).

1-10-DET 33 (8:51) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short left to 34-C.Barclay to DET 29 for 4 yards (32-D.McCann).

2-6-DET 29 (8:28) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 87-D.Dinkins to DET 22 for 7 yards (38-R.Robinson).

1-10-DET 22 (8:01) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short right to 8-M.Mann pushed ob at DET 11 for 11 yards (33-A.Davis).

1-10-DET 11 (7:30) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 12-S.Steptoe to DET 4 for 7 yards (57-J.Lobendahn).

2-3-DET 4 (6:49) 10-B.Quinn pass incomplete to 5-E.Hill (41-T.Beckham).

3-3-DET 4 (6:46) 10-B.Quinn pass short right to 5-E.Hill for 4 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

TWO-POINT CONVERSION ATTEMPT. 10-B.Quinn pass is incomplete. ATTEMPT FAILS.

First drive, all completions were short passes.

1-10-CLV 8 (2:10) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short left to 35-J.Harrison to CLV 17 for 9 yards (57-J.Lobendahn).

Two-Minute Warning

2-1-CLV 17 (2:00) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 35-J.Harrison to CLV 33 for 16 yards (38-R.Robinson).

1-10-CLV 33 (1:39) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass incomplete short left to 35-J.Harrison.

2-10-CLV 33 (1:36) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 35-J.Harrison to CLV 47 for 14 yards (38-R.Robinson).

1-10-CLV 47 (1:17) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

2-10-CLV 47 (1:17) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass deep middle to 83-S.Sanders to DET 29 for 24 yards (35-I.Charlton).

1-10-DET 29 59) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

2-10-DET 29 59) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass incomplete short left to 35-J.Harrison.

3-10-DET 29 54) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 35-J.Harrison to DET 19 for 10 yards (57-J.Lobendahn).

1-10-DET 19 54) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

2-10-DET 19 38) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 29-J.Wright to DET 6 for 13 yards (57-J.Lobendahn).

1-6-DET 6 38) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

2-6-DET 6 24) (Shotgun) 10-B.Quinn pass short middle to 35-J.Harrison for 6 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

Second drive, all completed passes except one were short passes.

Eight of his completions were to RBs in the flat. He completed ONE deep pass.

Jesus Christ people, it was his first game. Give the dude a break.....

I don't see anyone criticizing him, but this is important enough to know, especially considering some of the comments being made about how great he played. He played well, but you have to temper the enthusiasm based on the facts. He threw one pass downfield. He threw most to RBs in the flat, against 3rd and 4th string players, in a prevent defense, with little to no pass rush. I won't take away from his composure, but seriously, how hard is it to throw most of your passes in the flat against a prevent defense?I thought he was decent, but he didn't throw downfield, nor did he face a pass rush.

If this was a response to a Thread started by Browns homer claiming Brady is the best thing since sliced bread, I could see your point. But the thread was started as an attack on Quinn.

A Raider fan starting this thread? How's yer boi JaMarcus doing? Smirk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Which QB would you rather build your franchise around?Think carefully before you answer... you're on the Truth-O-Meter!

If you were a franchise QB, which offense would you rather line up behind center with.Think carefully before you answer... you're on the Truth-O-Meter!

 

[redman]

1-10-CLV 37 (9:20) #10 1-10-CLV 47 (1:17) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

1-10-DET 29 59) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

1-10-DET 19 54) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

1-6-DET 6 38) 10-B.Quinn spiked the ball to stop the clock.

I fail to see why anyone is critical of this man's accuracy. He looked flawless.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I think most people see it exactly as it was: He looked as good as you could ever ask a QB to look against the 4th quarter guys in prevent defense.

He absolutely could have looked a lot worse.

The real test will be to see him against the first team. I hope Crennel has the sense to start him this week. If he looks good against the first teamers, I'd make him my Week 1 starter. I've seen enough of Frye and Anderson to take that chance.

J

 

[amnesiac]

I think most people see it exactly as it was: He looked as good as you could ever ask a QB to look against the 4th quarter guys in prevent defense. He absolutely could have looked a lot worse. The real test will be to see him against the first team. I hope Crennel has the sense to start him this week. If he looks good against the first teamers, I'd make him my Week 1 starter. I've seen enough of Frye and Anderson to take that chance.J

before game one this preseason, i would've said no way that happens. now, i'm not so sure.but i still doubt he starts before week 4 or so. heck, they didn't even let him play in the first preseason game!

 

[Joe Bryant]

I think most people see it exactly as it was: He looked as good as you could ever ask a QB to look against the 4th quarter guys in prevent defense. He absolutely could have looked a lot worse. The real test will be to see him against the first team. I hope Crennel has the sense to start him this week. If he looks good against the first teamers, I'd make him my Week 1 starter. I've seen enough of Frye and Anderson to take that chance.J

before game one this preseason, i would've said no way that happens. now, i'm not so sure.but i still doubt he starts before week 4 or so. heck, they didn't even let him play in the first preseason game!

Hi Am,I would have said that too. I thought missing that much camp would kill him. But it didn't have any effect yesterday. At least that you could see. With the way Frye and Anderson have looked, I think the pressure will be unbearable to start him early if he looks good this week and next.We'll see.J

 

[SteelerMurf]

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=149#s=149&a...47&T=859558

a Browns fan took a snapshot of every completed pass by Brady, it is amazing how wide open they left the RB on all those plays

props to Brady for taking what they gave him, but those photos are downright hilarious.....not even a Detroit guy in site

honestly, I think the RB was running the exact same pattern on most. Look where he is before each pass...some you would think were repeat photos, even where the ref is standing.

pretty fun stuff

 

[Joe Bryant]

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=149#s=149&a...47&T=859558

a Browns fan took a snapshot of every completed pass by Brady, it is amazing how wide open they left the RB on all those plays

props to Brady for taking what they gave him, but those photos are downright hilarious.....not even a Detroit guy in site

honestly, I think the RB was running the exact same pattern on most. Look where he is before each pass...some you would think were repeat photos, even where the ref is standing.

pretty fun stuff

Exactly. That's what it usually looks like in a prevent defense. But the TD pass where he stuck it in the corner instead of running in and the pass to Sanders were both outstanding. From what I've seen, I would be surprised to see Frye or Anderson make either play.I think most people see exactly what it was though. And are anxious to see how he does against the #1's. But give the guy some credit, it would have been difficult for him to do any better in the situation he was in. If I were a Browns fan, I'd be loving the potential here.

J

 

[Raider Nation]

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=149#s=149&a...47&T=859558

a Browns fan took a snapshot of every completed pass by Brady, it is amazing how wide open they left the RB on all those plays

props to Brady for taking what they gave him, but those photos are downright hilarious.....not even a Detroit guy in site

Wow, that dude has a LOT of time on his hands.

 

[Raider Nation]

A Raider fan starting this thread? How's yer boi JaMarcus doing? Smirk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Which QB would you rather build your franchise around?Think carefully before you answer... you're on the Truth-O-Meter!

While I am in no way considered a Quinn fan I honestly believe that I'd rather build a franchise around Brady than Jamarcus. I'll take his overall body of work at Notre Dame and working with Weiss for two years over a great half season and spectacular bowl game over a lousy defense. Russell has a great arm........so does Jeff George.

So does Carson Palmer.So does Brett Favre.

Hey, this is fun.

 

[Raider Nation]

I think most people see it exactly as it was: He looked as good as you could ever ask a QB to look against the 4th quarter guys in prevent defense. He absolutely could have looked a lot worse.

I was just funnin' around, as evidenced by the " " at the end of my post. I wish the kid nothing but luck, even if he does sound/look like Corey Haim when he speaks.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

A Raider fan starting this thread? How's yer boi JaMarcus doing? Smirk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Which QB would you rather build your franchise around?Think carefully before you answer... you're on the Truth-O-Meter!

Which QB would I rather build my NFL team around? The one who is set up best to succeed. Think carefully before answering the following questions.Which NFL team surrendered the most sacks in the league last year and didn't draft a top offensive left tackle to help their line?Which NFL team did draft a top three offensive left tackle who has already won a starting job and is, so far, looking solid?Which NFL team signed the highest rated offensive free agent guard this year? Which team drafted a top three offensive left tackle four NFL seasons ago who was soo bad that he couldn't hack it as an offensive left tackle? One QB has missed his first entire NFL training camp, he has missed his first two NFL preseason games and will more than likely miss the entire preseason and possibly extend his holdout into the regular season and he is nowhere near signing or even making progress on his contract talks. Since he's missed his first training camp and preseason games that means he'll never regain those opportunities for reps with the first unit offensive team or his crucial rookie training camp. He may not be anywhere near knowing the offense let alone anywhere near ready to play if he signs. He came into the draft as an early entry junior who needed work on his mechanics and a few other aspects of his game. He unfortunately has the worst pass protecting offensive line in the league in front of him if he signs, he has no established playmaker on offense if he signs, he lacks a thousand yard rusher or a solid running game if he signs, he has a rookie head coach which means a duel learning curve if he signs, and he has arguably the worst owner in the league. The other QB has a, top young stud tight end who tied a team record for receptions in his first full season and who will be finally be freed from pass protecting duties to go out on longer double-two cover busting seem routes. The reason the stud TE will be able to go out on longer pass patterns is because his team drafted a top three stud offensive left tackle who has already won the starting job protecting the blind side and has looked solid. This rookie QB has a top three drafted wide reciever who is has had a solid camp and preseason and is healthy and ready to take the next step. He has a former league rushing champion who is a consistent if unspectacular thousand yard rusher who dropped ten lbs and is healthy and having a solid camp and preseason. This QB is going to benefit from an influx of top offensive line talent to grow with him as he develops and to protect him and to help his running game. This rookie QB is already signed and may challenge to start much sooner this year than anyone expected. I'd rather have either SIGNED on the Browns than have either on the Raiders so I'd rather have Quinn with the Browns revamped offensive line and Kellen Winslow Junior and Braylon Edwards and Jamal Lewis than an unsigned JaMarcus Russell with the worst offensive line in the league and a sketchy running game and a rookie head coach and the worst owner in the league. Russell may not ever reach agreeement with Al Davis since it appears Al would rather not pay top dollar for QB talent. Neither of us knows if either player will be successful but its not even close right now on who is better positioned to succeed. In eight months Quinn will more than likely be the starting QB for the Browns and in eight months JaMarcus Rusell could be back into the 08 draft pool.So which QB is better positioned to succeed? Don't forget, your on the Truth-O-Meter.

 

[Raider Nation]

A Raider fan starting this thread? How's yer boi JaMarcus doing? Smirk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Which QB would you rather build your franchise around?Think carefully before you answer... you're on the Truth-O-Meter!

Which QB would I rather build my NFL team around? The one who is set up best to succeed. Think carefully before answering the following questions.Which NFL team surrendered the most sacks in the league last year and didn't draft a top offensive left tackle to help their line?Which NFL team did draft a top three offensive left tackle who has already won a starting job and is, so far, looking solid?Which NFL team signed the highest rated offensive free agent guard this year? Which team drafted a top three offensive left tackle four NFL seasons ago who was soo bad that he couldn't hack it as an offensive left tackle? One QB has missed his first entire NFL training camp, he has missed his first two NFL preseason games and will more than likely miss the entire preseason and possibly extend his holdout into the regular season and he is nowhere near signing or even making progress on his contract talks. Since he's missed his first training camp and preseason games that means he'll never regain those opportunities for reps with the first unit offensive team or his crucial rookie training camp. He may not be anywhere near knowing the offense let alone anywhere near ready to play if he signs. He came into the draft as an early entry junior who needed work on his mechanics and a few other aspects of his game. He unfortunately has the worst pass protecting offensive line in the league in front of him if he signs, he has no established playmaker on offense if he signs, he lacks a thousand yard rusher or a solid running game if he signs, he has a rookie head coach which means a duel learning curve if he signs, and he has arguably the worst owner in the league. The other QB has a, top young stud tight end who tied a team record for receptions in his first full season and who will be finally be freed from pass protecting duties to go out on longer double-two cover busting seem routes. The reason the stud TE will be able to go out on longer pass patterns is because his team drafted a top three stud offensive left tackle who has already won the starting job protecting the blind side and has looked solid. This rookie QB has a top three drafted wide reciever who is has had a solid camp and preseason and is healthy and ready to take the next step. He has a former league rushing champion who is a consistent if unspectacular thousand yard rusher who dropped ten lbs and is healthy and having a solid camp and preseason. This QB is going to benefit from an influx of top offensive line talent to grow with him as he develops and to protect him and to help his running game. This rookie QB is already signed and may challenge to start much sooner this year than anyone expected. I'd rather have either SIGNED on the Browns than have either on the Raiders so I'd rather have Quinn with the Browns revamped offensive line and Kellen Winslow Junior and Braylon Edwards and Jamal Lewis than an unsigned JaMarcus Russell with the worst offensive line in the league and a sketchy running game and a rookie head coach and the worst owner in the league. Russell may not ever reach agreeement with Al Davis since it appears Al would rather not pay top dollar for QB talent. Neither of us knows if either player will be successful but its not even close right now on who is better positioned to succeed. In eight months Quinn will more than likely be the starting QB for the Browns and in eight months JaMarcus Rusell could be back into the 08 draft pool.So which QB is better positioned to succeed? Don't forget, your on the Truth-O-Meter.

I give you credit for your thoughtful, detailed reply. But you never actually answered my question as it was constituted.