Brady Quinn (1 Viewer)

[turfman]

When will Brady Quinn be inserted into the starting lineup? Another question is when should we think about picking him up.

 

[Ben Stiller]

If the Browns lose and DA throws some backbreaking picks again this week I think Quinn is given serious consideration week 4 in Cincy. Romeo may be on borrowed time too, there were great expectations in Cleveland this year.

 

[amnesiac]

maybe the other Cleveland guys will also chime in with their opinions, but right now i am not hearing any buzz that leads me to believe that Quinn will be starting any time soon.

if the Browns are out of playoff contention i could see them making a switch, but other than injury or a complete flame out, i believe it is Anderson's job.

honestly, i'm not sure where this question keeps coming from.

 

[Sabertooth]

I am a Quinn dynasty owner. I don't think he starts at all this season unless:

1) Derek Anderson regresses. I give him a pass for playing in a wind tunnel last week. But he needs to continually improve and I see no reason to think he won't.

2) Injury to Anderson and Quinn takes over and lights it up.

3) The Browns fail miserably but Romeo is comfortable that he won't be fired. If he's going to get fired anyway, I just don't see why he'd make the switch.

 

[top dog]

maybe the other Cleveland guys will also chime in with their opinions, but right now i am not hearing any buzz that leads me to believe that Quinn will be starting any time soon.

if the Browns are out of playoff contention i could see them making a switch, but other than injury or a complete flame out, i believe it is Anderson's job.

honestly, i'm not sure where this question keeps coming from.

This question comes from watching Anderson make terrible decisions week after week. The guy has a GREAT arm, but makes some very dumb choices throughout a game. We were discussing it at work the other day and someone made the comparison to Jeff George. Great Arm, not so great brain.

 

[Raider Nation]

I respectfully disagree with the posters above who don't see it happening.

I picked him up this week because I believe if they go 0-3 and he doesn't play well, it could happen as soon as week 4.

EDIT: LOL at the "never" votes. How could anyone possibly say that?

 

[Raider Nation]

If the Browns lose and DA throws some backbreaking picks again this week I think Quinn is given serious consideration week 4 in Cincy. Romeo may be on borrowed time too, there were great expectations in Cleveland this year.

Missed this post the first time around. I agree.

 

[RobMexico]

I don't think you can even speculate at this point.

Cleveland has played two very talented teams. The team played better week 2, considering the conditions, but was plagued by poor coaching decisions. Some of DA's mistakes could be remedied by the coaching staff putting him in those positions.

DA hasn't lost the team any games. Until he does, he is in the same boat as Hasselbeck and Garrard. He's a struggling QB on an injury plagued 0-2 team that had high expectations this year. The only difference is that he has an unproven, highly touted talent behind him. Nobody is calling for Seneca Wallace or Cleo Lemon.

 

[Raider Nation]

I don't think you can even speculate at this point.Cleveland has played two very talented teams. The team played better week 2, considering the conditions, but was plagued by poor coaching decisions. Some of DA's mistakes could be remedied by the coaching staff putting him in those positions.DA hasn't lost the team any games. Until he does, he is in the same boat as Hasselbeck and Garrard. He's a struggling QB on an injury plagued 0-2 team that had high expectations this year. The only difference is that he has an unproven, highly touted talent behind him. Nobody is calling for Seneca Wallace or Cleo Lemon.

Apples and oranges. Wallace and Lemon aren't making Quinn's salary, they weren't 1st-round picks and they aren't good.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

The problem is Quinn isn't very good either. He's actually abysmally bad.

 

[Raider Nation]

The problem is Quinn isn't very good either. He's actually abysmally bad.

And you've witnessed this in the numerous opportunities he's been given?

 

[Chickenwang]

You got some balls saying Quinn is bad.

What you smoking?

 

[MAC_32]

Unless DA has an insanely bad day tomorrow halftime of week 6 is the earliest you'll see him.

I maintain we won't see Quinn barring injury, but I am bias...

 

[Ozymandias]

First and second round drafted qb's have about a 25% success rate. There is no reason to believe that Quinn has any more of a chance than that. They have someone in Anderson who has had 1 good year in the NFL. I'd say his chances are 50-50. Unless he gets injured, I don't see it happening.

Of course, the coaches are closer to it than that; I'm just going on history.

 

[Tau837]

I don't think Quinn will start until the Browns are eliminated from the playoffs, unless Anderson is injured. I still expect Cleveland to win 7+ games, in which case that is a long way off.

 

[brakeyawself]

The problem is Quinn isn't very good either. He's actually abysmally bad.

Abysmally? Based on what? He hasn't looked like Elway or anything but he didnt look "abysmally bad" in preseason. In fact I might even call his performance promising. What details lead you to this opinion?

 

[joffer]

I don't think Quinn will start until the Browns are eliminated from the playoffs, unless Anderson is injured. I still expect Cleveland to win 7+ games, in which case that is a long way off.

 

[EBF]

Somewhere between week 8-12. Cleveland should only win 2-3 games between now and their week 12 game with Houston. By that point they'll probably be out of playoff contention and Anderson will have been outed as a mirage.

 

[Bermuda_Chub]

The problem is Quinn isn't very good either. He's actually abysmally bad.

Respectfully disagree. Quinn hit on 66% of his passes in the preseason w/o the benefit of playing with Edwards and Winslow (in 3 of 4 games). I watched two of those games, and he struck me as having the look of an NFL QB -- leadership, pocket presence, mobility, and the ability to read the defense and take what's given. I'd say it's a coin flip as to whether Anderson keeps his starting gig if the Brownies fall to the Ravens. In fact, if Anderson is ineffective and Cleveland falls behind, I could easily see Quinn making an appearance in the second half. You don't draft a QB in the first round and then let him season on the bench for two years if your team is losing. It just doesn't happen.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

EDIT: LOL at the "never" votes. How could anyone possibly say that?

I see DA turning it around, so no Quinn this year. The idea that Quinn starts week 4 is ridiculous to me. I guess we shall see.

 

[Bermuda_Chub]

EDIT: LOL at the "never" votes. How could anyone possibly say that?

I see DA turning it around, so no Quinn this year. The idea that Quinn starts week 4 is ridiculous to me. I guess we shall see.

I suspect you would have also found it ridiculous that the Browns would have cut Week 1 starter Charlie Fry after one game and started Anderson in Week 2 of last season. But it happened.

 

[Raider Nation]

EDIT: LOL at the "never" votes. How could anyone possibly say that?

I see DA turning it around, so no Quinn this year. The idea that Quinn starts week 4 is ridiculous to me. I guess we shall see.

I have to apologize. I read the "never" option as NEVER instead of in the context of "never in 2008" exclusively.

 

[eric rymer]

The problem is Quinn isn't very good either. He's actually abysmally bad.

And you've witnessed this in the numerous opportunities he's been given?

Exactly, or maybe even by how well ND played after Quinn left. Quinn has yet to be given enough chances at the NFL level to be called good or bad.

 

[hbkhbk]

The problem is Quinn isn't very good either. He's actually abysmally bad.

Respectfully disagree. Quinn hit on 66% of his passes in the preseason w/o the benefit of playing with Edwards and Winslow (in 3 of 4 games). I watched two of those games, and he struck me as having the look of an NFL QB -- leadership, pocket presence, mobility, and the ability to read the defense and take what's given. I'd say it's a coin flip as to whether Anderson keeps his starting gig if the Brownies fall to the Ravens. In fact, if Anderson is ineffective and Cleveland falls behind, I could easily see Quinn making an appearance in the second half. You don't draft a QB in the first round and then let him season on the bench for two years if your team is losing. It just doesn't happen.

DA doesn't really have Edwards either...

 

[MAC_32]

EDIT: LOL at the "never" votes. How could anyone possibly say that?

I see DA turning it around, so no Quinn this year. The idea that Quinn starts week 4 is ridiculous to me. I guess we shall see.

I suspect you would have also found it ridiculous that the Browns would have cut Week 1 starter Charlie Fry after one game and started Anderson in Week 2 of last season. But it happened.

Well, he was traded and not cut, but we all knew he was on a short leash entering the season. Hell, DA was the penciled in starter entering camp last year but crapped the bed and gave the starting position away.What I'm getting at is Anderson starting week 2 did not surprise me (or most Browns fan for that matter), trading away Frye and Anderson playing like he did was a surprise though.

 

[Kiddnets]

I would say DA has a leash but how long? The Browns have 2 1st rd picks invested in Quinn and they both make a bunch of money. Few more losses may do it....

 

[awesomeness]

Before.

 

[massraider]

The problem is Quinn isn't very good either. He's actually abysmally bad.

Respectfully disagree. Quinn hit on 66% of his passes in the preseason w/o the benefit of playing with Edwards and Winslow (in 3 of 4 games). I watched two of those games, and he struck me as having the look of an NFL QB -- leadership, pocket presence, mobility, and the ability to read the defense and take what's given. I'd say it's a coin flip as to whether Anderson keeps his starting gig if the Brownies fall to the Ravens. In fact, if Anderson is ineffective and Cleveland falls behind, I could easily see Quinn making an appearance in the second half. You don't draft a QB in the first round and then let him season on the bench for two years if your team is losing. It just doesn't happen.

He looks very well-coached. But I don't think his arm is special, especially from an accuracy standpoint. Quinn may get his chance, but it'll have more to do with Anderson than with Quinn forcing his way onto the field.

 

[two_dollars]

hopefully before, but I think if they do, it would be the week after the bye to give him weeks with the starting O.

 

[[scooter]]

1) Derek Anderson regresses.

This is the key right here. As long as Anderson plays at a similar level to last year (82.5 passer rating), then he'll keep his job no matter how many losses pile up. But he certainly won't keep his job if he continues to put up the sub-60 passer rating he's enjoyed over the first 2 games.If it's below 70 in Week 6, Quinn takes over.

 

[Raider Nation]

1) Derek Anderson regresses.

This is the key right here. As long as Anderson plays at a similar level to last year (82.5 passer rating), then he'll keep his job no matter how many losses pile up.

Could not disagree more with the bolded part. If Cleveland is 0-6, what reason is there not to play Quinn?

 

[moderated]

It's a given Quinn is going to get this job at the latest in the 09' season, and very likely this season if Cle gets to mid-season with less then 3 wins. If they are 2-6 or worse come the midpoint it's Brady time. Even a 3-5 record might bring on Brady.

Cle has a great QB, too bad he's on their bench.

 

[omally]

Braylon Edwards has been more of a problem so far this season than Anderson. It's hard to be efficient in passing when your #1 WR keeps dropping the ball.

 

[Raider Nation]

Braylon Edwards has been more of a problem so far this season than Anderson. It's hard to be efficient in passing when your #1 WR keeps dropping the ball.

It's common knowledge that Brady Quinn throws a much more catchable ball.

 

[MAC_32]

I would say DA has a leash but how long? The Browns have 2 1st rd picks invested in Quinn and they both make a bunch of money. Few more losses may do it....

Fail. Quinn is making barely over the league minimum.

 

[Ben Stiller]

Derek Anderson's stats since week 10 of 2007 (after loading up on the Rams, Dolphins, Cincy for 11 TD passes):

11 games

208/374 (55.6%)

2323 yards

6.2 YPA

13 TD

13 INT

71.4 QB Rating

Why wouldn't Brady Quinn be given a shot if the Browns start 0-3?

 

[kaa]

If the Browns collapse this year to point of starting Quinn by week 6, factor in the possibility it may get Romeo fired. He's in year 4 with no playoff appearances and there is already a bit of sniping in the media between Crennel and Savage.

 

[moderated]

Derek Anderson's stats since week 10 of 2007 (after loading up on the Rams, Dolphins, Cincy for 11 TD passes):11 games208/374 (55.6%)2323 yards6.2 YPA13 TD13 INT71.4 QB RatingWhy wouldn't Brady Quinn be given a shot if the Browns start 0-3?

whoa, i knew he has been bad, but that's just ugly.After seeing that if Cle loses this weekend we could see Quinn in week 4.

 

[Ben Stiller]

If the Browns collapse this year to point of starting Quinn by week 6, factor in the possibility it may get Romeo fired. He's in year 4 with no playoff appearances and there is already a bit of sniping in the media between Crennel and Savage.

I'd bet Savage isn't far behind. Trading good young corners and high draft picks for older D-linemen isn't common practice in the NFL for a reason.

 

[kaa]

If the Browns collapse this year to point of starting Quinn by week 6, factor in the possibility it may get Romeo fired. He's in year 4 with no playoff appearances and there is already a bit of sniping in the media between Crennel and Savage.

I'd bet Savage isn't far behind. Trading good young corners and high draft picks for older D-linemen isn't common practice in the NFL for a reason.

If you ask me I think Savage felt he had the offense and now it was time to roll the dice and try to accelerate the rebuilding process by making trades to bolster the DL. If the offense never materializes all year, then it could be curtains for Savage and Crennel. Of course the offense could reappear starting with tomorrow's game against the Ravens.So much hinges on these next two games.

 

[[scooter]]

Derek Anderson's stats since week 10 of 2007 (after loading up on the Rams, Dolphins, Cincy for 11 TD passes):11 games208/374 (55.6%)2323 yards6.2 YPA13 TD13 INT71.4 QB RatingWhy wouldn't Brady Quinn be given a shot if the Browns start 0-3?

To be fair, those stats are still better than almost every Cleveland quarterback since the team returned to the league in 1999.

 

[Kiddnets]

I would say DA has a leash but how long? The Browns have 2 1st rd picks invested in Quinn and they both make a bunch of money. Few more losses may do it....

Fail. Quinn is making barely over the league minimum.

"Brady Quinn has agreed to a five-year contact with the Cleveland Browns worth $20.2 million, with $7.75 million guaranteed, ending his holdout. " - as long as he is on their roster, which he will be for the forseeable future, he is making $4M per year with bonuses can't discount those - Certainly not the minimum!

 

[Manster]

im not so sure quinn will be an upgrade over DA. but he will have a lot more commercials if he gets the starting gig.

 

[MAC_32]

I would say DA has a leash but how long? The Browns have 2 1st rd picks invested in Quinn and they both make a bunch of money. Few more losses may do it....

Fail. Quinn is making barely over the league minimum.

"Brady Quinn has agreed to a five-year contact with the Cleveland Browns worth $20.2 million, with $7.75 million guaranteed, ending his holdout. " - as long as he is on their roster, which he will be for the forseeable future, he is making $4M per year with bonuses can't discount those - Certainly not the minimum!

Please don't comment further unless you understand the terms of his contract, as long as he's on the bench he's barely making the league minimum.

 

[two_dollars]

I would say DA has a leash but how long? The Browns have 2 1st rd picks invested in Quinn and they both make a bunch of money. Few more losses may do it....

Fail. Quinn is making barely over the league minimum.

"Brady Quinn has agreed to a five-year contact with the Cleveland Browns worth $20.2 million, with $7.75 million guaranteed, ending his holdout. " - as long as he is on their roster, which he will be for the forseeable future, he is making $4M per year with bonuses can't discount those - Certainly not the minimum!

Please don't comment further unless you understand the terms of his contract, as long as he's on the bench he's barely making the league minimum.

He still got the guaranteed signing bonus

 

[MAC_32]

I would say DA has a leash but how long? The Browns have 2 1st rd picks invested in Quinn and they both make a bunch of money. Few more losses may do it....

Fail. Quinn is making barely over the league minimum.

"Brady Quinn has agreed to a five-year contact with the Cleveland Browns worth $20.2 million, with $7.75 million guaranteed, ending his holdout. " - as long as he is on their roster, which he will be for the forseeable future, he is making $4M per year with bonuses can't discount those - Certainly not the minimum!

Please don't comment further unless you understand the terms of his contract, as long as he's on the bench he's barely making the league minimum.

He still got the guaranteed signing bonus

Sunk cost, it's irrelevant to any decisions being made now and in the future. The only way he makes more money at this time is if he sees the field, which is why he'll almost certainly demand a trade if DA's option is exercised this offseason.

 

[two_dollars]

I'd love it if he came to chicago!

 

[Kiddnets]

I would say DA has a leash but how long? The Browns have 2 1st rd picks invested in Quinn and they both make a bunch of money. Few more losses may do it....

Fail. Quinn is making barely over the league minimum.

"Brady Quinn has agreed to a five-year contact with the Cleveland Browns worth $20.2 million, with $7.75 million guaranteed, ending his holdout. " - as long as he is on their roster, which he will be for the forseeable future, he is making $4M per year with bonuses can't discount those - Certainly not the minimum!

Please don't comment further unless you understand the terms of his contract, as long as he's on the bench he's barely making the league minimum.

He still got the guaranteed signing bonus

Sunk cost, it's irrelevant to any decisions being made now and in the future. The only way he makes more money at this time is if he sees the field, which is why he'll almost certainly demand a trade if DA's option is exercised this offseason.

My point is that they sunk decent coin into Quinn as well as 2 1st rd picks - plus he was brought in to be the "savior" - I'm sure there will be pressure to play him if things go bad the next few weeks. If they win a few games and DA looks like 2007 its a moot argument.

 

[Jon_Moore]

maybe the other Cleveland guys will also chime in with their opinions, but right now i am not hearing any buzz that leads me to believe that Quinn will be starting any time soon.

if the Browns are out of playoff contention i could see them making a switch, but other than injury or a complete flame out, i believe it is Anderson's job.

honestly, i'm not sure where this question keeps coming from.

This question comes from watching Anderson make terrible decisions week after week. The guy has a GREAT arm, but makes some very dumb choices throughout a game. We were discussing it at work the other day and someone made the comparison to Jeff George. Great Arm, not so great brain.

It's been 2 weeks.

 

[Godsbrother]

It's a given Quinn is going to get this job at the latest in the 09' season, and very likely this season if Cle gets to mid-season with less then 3 wins. If they are 2-6 or worse come the midpoint it's Brady time. Even a 3-5 record might bring on Brady.Cle has a great QB, too bad he's on their bench.

Brady Quinn might be the second coming of Joe Montana or Tim Couch -- most likely he'll fall somewhere in between. We won't know until he gets some playing in real NFL games. Saying he is a great QB at this point in time is ridiculous.