Brandon Jacobs vs Ahmad Bradshaw (1 Viewer)

[wilked]

I am willing to bet a lot of Jacobs owners (rightfully) handcuffed Bradshaw to him. And I bet those same owners deliberate each week over which to start. Here is a thread to try and tease out who is the better player to put in your lineup.

First the facts:

FPTS (PPR)

Jacobs - 8.3 FPT/GM, Bradshaw 11.8 FPT/GM

RUSH YDS

Jacobs - 107 rushes for 388 YDS (3.6 YPC), Bradshaw - 68 rushes for 423 YDS (6.3 YPC)

REC YDS

Jacobs - 5 for 23 YDS, Bradshaw 6 for 74 YDS

Red Zone Carries

Jacobs - 23 carries (2.09 YPC) 1TD, Bradshaw - 15 carries (3.6 YPC) 3TD

Inside the 10 Yd Line Carries

Jacobs - 12 carries 1TD, Bradshaw - 3 carries, 1 TD

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From the above it is clear that Bradshaw has been *much* more effective. Jacobs has the edge in one category: opportunities. He gets the ball more, and importantly gets the ball *much* more inside the 10, where RBs score the vast majority of their TDs.

On a per touch basis Bradshaw is roughly twice as effective relative to Yards per Touch, and certainly from efficiency of converting the touches to points.

So will the Giants recognize this and switch the distribution from 60% Jacobs to 60% Bradshaw? Does that even matter, if even at 40% of the touches Bradshaw is a better play than Jacobs? Or does the wise owner rid himself of the problem and trade one/both away?

 

[wilked]

For those that subscribe to the methods of Football Outsiders (I definitely do), they have Bradshaw as either the 3rd or 4th best RB thus far (whether you use DYAR or DVOA), and Jacobs as roughly 30th in the league

http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/rb

 

[RoxSolid]

been fighting this battle every week...however today i'm playing both with moreno and rice on bye.

 

[wilked]

been fighting this battle every week...however today i'm playing both with moreno and rice on bye.

So what have you based your decision on? Gut? Past week's performance? Other?

 

[Futz]

I'm going with Bradshaw. He's got a better chance at high end #s and is a safe bet for at least 6pts. anyways. There's something really ineffective about Jacobs right now. He's falling on initial contact way easier than the past.

 

[Mr. Mojo]

been fighting this battle every week...however today i'm playing both with moreno and rice on bye.

That could be tough - Arizona is #1 againt the run.

 

[bjlmonster]

I am starting Benson and Pierre over Jacobs/Bradshaw since Arz is #1 against the run. If i had to choose 1, it probably would be Bradshaw who I went with.

 

[wilked]

I haven't seen enough Giants games to comment, but have read that the Giant's blocking scheme tends to open up holes a bit more slowly than average, which benefits Bradshaw who can delay / accelerate more quickly than Jacobs. Anyone comment to this point?

 

[werdnoynek]

i think jacobs breaks his slump this week and explodes for 100+ 1-2 td's, regardless of the #1 run d. its just a hunch (hope) but i feel hes way overdue. his performance over the past few weeks has been sad to see, hes just too good to put up those kind of numbers. i think hes loving this matchup and wants to go out and prove everyone wrong. but i could be completely wrong.

 

[wilked]

Jacobs did have a statement earlier this week I believe where he admitted that Bradshaw's out-performance is affecting him. Whether that can motivate him to play better is still a question though

 

[Futz]

i think jacobs breaks his slump this week and explodes for 100+ 1-2 td's, regardless of the #1 run d. its just a hunch (hope) but i feel hes way overdue. his performance over the past few weeks has been sad to see, hes just too good to put up those kind of numbers. i think hes loving this matchup and wants to go out and prove everyone wrong. but i could be completely wrong.

I think you have the battered wife syndrome. He'll stop hitting me eventually. He always says he's sorry. He doesn't mean it.My point of course is that I can't afford to stick around to find out if he's going to change his ways. Last week was his last chance for me. Bradshaw or bust.

 

[fantasizing]

Well, for the record I have both on my team, and I have to start one of them this week. I'm rolling with Bradshaw.

Why?

Arizona is #1 against the run and I think they'll stuff Jacobs.

Bradshaw may be able to make some plays in space, as a receiving threat, or break a long one, which Jacobs can't do.

I hope i don't regret the decision. Watch, Jacobs will probably go off and get 15 rushes from 87 yards and 3 goaline TD's.

 

[meatwad1]

I am playing Bradshaw this week. At some point, the Giants have to play the better player and I think that might start this week. This is pretty much a must win game for the G-Men if they want home field advantage in the playoffs. There is a good chance that the bye will be determined by conference record.

A couple of other situations where coaches are starting to realize the best player must see the field:

Baltimore: Rice over McGahee

Green Bay: Chillar over Hawk (LBs)

In both of those cases the player in question is supplanting a true starter only because they are giving the coaches no choice.

Luckily for me, I only have this problem for a couple weeks, as I am rocking SJAX and Rice as my regular starters.

 

[fantasizing]

My point of course is that I can't afford to stick around to find out if he's going to change his ways. Last week was his last chance for me. Bradshaw or bust.

Yeah, I like this statement. It's worth the risk with Bradshaw. Either he comes through or busts. Tired of waiting for Jacobs to do something. Jacobs needs to earn the right to be put back into my starting lineup. Bradshaw has already earned that right.

 

[meatwad1]

Jacobs did have a statement earlier this week I believe where he admitted that Bradshaw's out-performance is affecting him. Whether that can motivate him to play better is still a question though

The fact that he is openly taking and responding to questions about it might be foreshawdowing something.

 

[werdnoynek]

Jacobs did have a statement earlier this week I believe where he admitted that Bradshaw's out-performance is affecting him. Whether that can motivate him to play better is still a question though

The fact that he is openly taking and responding to questions about it might be foreshawdowing something.

that its really bothering him and hes going to break out with the added motivation?

 

[Futz]

Jacobs did have a statement earlier this week I believe where he admitted that Bradshaw's out-performance is affecting him. Whether that can motivate him to play better is still a question though

The fact that he is openly taking and responding to questions about it might be foreshawdowing something.

that its really bothering him and hes going to break out with the added motivation?

He said that before last week though. Then he goes out, get's hurt, and the bad karma keeps on rolling for him. He's like a patient that's slowly bleeding out right now. You don't know your dying, and then your fantasy team is dead.

 

[meatwad1]

Jacobs did have a statement earlier this week I believe where he admitted that Bradshaw's out-performance is affecting him. Whether that can motivate him to play better is still a question though

The fact that he is openly taking and responding to questions about it might be foreshawdowing something.

that its really bothering him and hes going to break out with the added motivation?

Maybe its that the writing is on the wall...the Gmen are now effectivly two games behind the #1, and 1 game behind the #2. Somehow I don't think that motivation has much to do with it, as he was probably getting motivated around the third week into his sucky season.

 

[werdnoynek]

good thing coughlin is making these decisions huh?

 

[az_prof]

My gut feeling is neither guy will be good today against AZ. I have Bradshaw but am sitting him for Donald Brown. You would think a rush DT would mean that Bradshaw would get passing opportunities but NYG have not used the backs much in the passing game.

 

[Sarnoff]

Interesting thread idea, but I'm pretty sure Coughlin is going to start Jacobs and play Bradshaw here and there in the game as needed.

 

[wilked]

Interesting thread idea, but I'm pretty sure Coughlin is going to start Jacobs and play Bradshaw here and there in the game as needed.

So you subscribe to the coin-flip method?

 

[werdnoynek]

did coughlin announce that bradshaw is going to be the starter this week?? didn't think so...

 

[davearm]

did coughlin announce that bradshaw is going to be the starter this week?? didn't think so...

Not being the starter doesn't seem to be stopping Bradshaw from outscoring Jacobs.

 

[Sarnoff]

Interesting thread idea, but I'm pretty sure Coughlin is going to start Jacobs and play Bradshaw here and there in the game as needed.

So you subscribe to the coin-flip method?

Coughlin is going to play both guys in the game, no coin flip necessary.

 

[chihawk]

I'm starting Bradshaw this week over Jacobs. He's just been more productive during the past few weeks, and until Jacobs proves otherwise, I'll go with Bradshaw. That being said, I have had an absolute nightmare of a season with my decisions, so I'm pretty sure Jacobs will outperform Bradshaw tonight....we'll see.

 

[wilked]

Jacobs running with passion so far this week... I like the intensity

 

[bshell27]

He looked GREAT last week as well. Buy low moment has passed.

 

[w3junky]

Rolled with Jacobs over Bradshaw like I do every week. Finally is paying off for me.

 

[werdnoynek]

looks like jacobs has awaken... thank you naysayers for putting the pressure on him. how do you like him now? #9.