blackjack23
Footballguy
He has 1 TD since week 4. Lets be serious here. Hes a very good WR. Hes not a stud.
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blackjack23
Footballguy
There was a point in the year when I (mistakenly) believed my team to have the studliest WR trio in my league--Marshall, Colston, and TJ Housh. Then Palmer got hurt, Marshall stagnated in a huge way, and Colston was supplanted by Lance Moore.Yay 2008.
My 3 WRs are Marshall, Colston, & White. White's the only one I count on every week
EdwardCat
Footballguy
Marshall, Wayne, Tony G. Gonzalez is the only one that does anything for me at this point. I could replace the other two with scrubs and get better results.There was a point in the year when I (mistakenly) believed my team to have the studliest WR trio in my league--Marshall, Colston, and TJ Housh. Then Palmer got hurt, Marshall stagnated in a huge way, and Colston was supplanted by Lance Moore.Yay 2008.My 3 WRs are Marshall, Colston, & White. White's the only one I count on every week
Lobary
Footballguy
It's even funnier how you were saying that Andre Johnson is way overrated and isn't a true stud receiver after two or three weeks only to disappear forever from that thread.Just sayin.
EdwardCat
Footballguy
I'd sure love to see how you think Marshall will all of a sudden become a viable #1 receiver out of nowhere.
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Allow me to break this down realistically, since many of you seem to have a bias for or against the guy.
I own Marshall, but I try to keep emotion out of fantasy football as much as possible. Anyone who thinks he isn't the most talented receiver on Denver's roster is kidding himself. I have mad respect for Eddie Royal. Kid is a budding superstar. But he continues to see single coverage every week BECAUSE Brandon Marshall is playing on the same field with him. It's right there on film. Watch the game tape. Defenses continuously roll coverage to Marshall's side with safety help over the top because they fear him so much. Could he improve his hands? Sure. Is he perfect? Of course not. No receiver is. Just understand WHY things happen the way they do. In defensive meetings during the week, you have to pick something on offense to take away. I have watched every snap of every Denver game this year, as I'm sure many of you also have. In every game in which Marshall and Royal have both played, Marshall commands more defensive attention.
All this said, I am extremely disappointed with his lack of production of late. I don't expect single-digit point totals every week from a guy with this kind of ability. But his ability is also the catch-22. There is no way he can be benched. The minute you bench him, he'll go for 200 and 3 in your playoff game. The guy is maddening to own, I grant you. What can you do? Gotta ride it out.
I own Marshall, but I try to keep emotion out of fantasy football as much as possible. Anyone who thinks he isn't the most talented receiver on Denver's roster is kidding himself. I have mad respect for Eddie Royal. Kid is a budding superstar. But he continues to see single coverage every week BECAUSE Brandon Marshall is playing on the same field with him. It's right there on film. Watch the game tape. Defenses continuously roll coverage to Marshall's side with safety help over the top because they fear him so much. Could he improve his hands? Sure. Is he perfect? Of course not. No receiver is. Just understand WHY things happen the way they do. In defensive meetings during the week, you have to pick something on offense to take away. I have watched every snap of every Denver game this year, as I'm sure many of you also have. In every game in which Marshall and Royal have both played, Marshall commands more defensive attention.
All this said, I am extremely disappointed with his lack of production of late. I don't expect single-digit point totals every week from a guy with this kind of ability. But his ability is also the catch-22. There is no way he can be benched. The minute you bench him, he'll go for 200 and 3 in your playoff game. The guy is maddening to own, I grant you. What can you do? Gotta ride it out.
EdwardCat
Footballguy
So please explain to me how the situation will go from frustration to fruition?Allow me to break this down realistically, since many of you seem to have a bias for or against the guy.
I own Marshall, but I try to keep emotion out of fantasy football as much as possible. Anyone who thinks he isn't the most talented receiver on Denver's roster is kidding himself. I have mad respect for Eddie Royal. Kid is a budding superstar. But he continues to see single coverage every week BECAUSE Brandon Marshall is playing on the same field with him. It's right there on film. Watch the game tape. Defenses continuously roll coverage to Marshall's side with safety help over the top because they fear him so much. Could he improve his hands? Sure. Is he perfect? Of course not. No receiver is. Just understand WHY things happen the way they do. In defensive meetings during the week, you have to pick something on offense to take away. I have watched every snap of every Denver game this year, as I'm sure many of you also have. In every game in which Marshall and Royal have both played, Marshall commands more defensive attention.
All this said, I am extremely disappointed with his lack of production of late. I don't expect single-digit point totals every week from a guy with this kind of ability. But his ability is also the catch-22. There is no way he can be benched. The minute you bench him, he'll go for 200 and 3 in your playoff game. The guy is maddening to own, I grant you. What can you do? Gotta ride it out.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I wish I could. All I know is he is too talented to bench, so I'll continue to start him and go to church before the games.So please explain to me how the situation will go from frustration to fruition?Allow me to break this down realistically, since many of you seem to have a bias for or against the guy.
I own Marshall, but I try to keep emotion out of fantasy football as much as possible. Anyone who thinks he isn't the most talented receiver on Denver's roster is kidding himself. I have mad respect for Eddie Royal. Kid is a budding superstar. But he continues to see single coverage every week BECAUSE Brandon Marshall is playing on the same field with him. It's right there on film. Watch the game tape. Defenses continuously roll coverage to Marshall's side with safety help over the top because they fear him so much. Could he improve his hands? Sure. Is he perfect? Of course not. No receiver is. Just understand WHY things happen the way they do. In defensive meetings during the week, you have to pick something on offense to take away. I have watched every snap of every Denver game this year, as I'm sure many of you also have. In every game in which Marshall and Royal have both played, Marshall commands more defensive attention.
All this said, I am extremely disappointed with his lack of production of late. I don't expect single-digit point totals every week from a guy with this kind of ability. But his ability is also the catch-22. There is no way he can be benched. The minute you bench him, he'll go for 200 and 3 in your playoff game. The guy is maddening to own, I grant you. What can you do? Gotta ride it out.
MCguidance
Footballguy
Allow me to break this down realistically, since many of you seem to have a bias for or against the guy.
I own Marshall, but I try to keep emotion out of fantasy football as much as possible. Anyone who thinks he isn't the most talented receiver on Denver's roster is kidding himself. I have mad respect for Eddie Royal. Kid is a budding superstar. But he continues to see single coverage every week BECAUSE Brandon Marshall is playing on the same field with him. It's right there on film. Watch the game tape. Defenses continuously roll coverage to Marshall's side with safety help over the top because they fear him so much. Could he improve his hands? Sure. Is he perfect? Of course not. No receiver is. Just understand WHY things happen the way they do. In defensive meetings during the week, you have to pick something on offense to take away. I have watched every snap of every Denver game this year, as I'm sure many of you also have. In every game in which Marshall and Royal have both played, Marshall commands more defensive attention.
All this said, I am extremely disappointed with his lack of production of late. I don't expect single-digit point totals every week from a guy with this kind of ability. But his ability is also the catch-22. There is no way he can be benched. The minute you bench him, he'll go for 200 and 3 in your playoff game. The guy is maddening to own, I grant you. What can you do? Gotta ride it out.
well said. The opportunities and targets are there.
loose circuits
Footballguy
did anyone else notice he was having trouble stopping, starting, cutting, etc... I think he was having problems with the field, maybe he's not a mudder....
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
But his father was a mudder...and his mother was a mudder...
blackjack23
Footballguy
Of course you gotta ride it out. But until he can beat double coverage like some other studs he cant be called a WR1
thatguy
Footballguy
It should also be noted that when he does get single coverage, lately he has been getting a step on the CB, but Cutler is missing him down the sideline on go routes. It's pretty frustrating. He underthrew him terribly today on one play when Marshall was streaking down the sideline and all Marshall could do on the play was break up an interception.Allow me to break this down realistically, since many of you seem to have a bias for or against the guy.
I own Marshall, but I try to keep emotion out of fantasy football as much as possible. Anyone who thinks he isn't the most talented receiver on Denver's roster is kidding himself. I have mad respect for Eddie Royal. Kid is a budding superstar. But he continues to see single coverage every week BECAUSE Brandon Marshall is playing on the same field with him. It's right there on film. Watch the game tape. Defenses continuously roll coverage to Marshall's side with safety help over the top because they fear him so much. Could he improve his hands? Sure. Is he perfect? Of course not. No receiver is. Just understand WHY things happen the way they do. In defensive meetings during the week, you have to pick something on offense to take away. I have watched every snap of every Denver game this year, as I'm sure many of you also have. In every game in which Marshall and Royal have both played, Marshall commands more defensive attention.
All this said, I am extremely disappointed with his lack of production of late. I don't expect single-digit point totals every week from a guy with this kind of ability. But his ability is also the catch-22. There is no way he can be benched. The minute you bench him, he'll go for 200 and 3 in your playoff game. The guy is maddening to own, I grant you. What can you do? Gotta ride it out.
puckalicious
Footballguy
There also was a play early in the game where Cutler targeted him in the endzone. Marshall got completely manhandled by 2 defenders and no flag. I swear this happens to him once a game. Do the refs have it in for Marshall due to his past off-field issues?It should also be noted that when he does get single coverage, lately he has been getting a step on the CB, but Cutler is missing him down the sideline on go routes. It's pretty frustrating. He underthrew him terribly today on one play when Marshall was streaking down the sideline and all Marshall could do on the play was break up an interception.Allow me to break this down realistically, since many of you seem to have a bias for or against the guy.
I own Marshall, but I try to keep emotion out of fantasy football as much as possible. Anyone who thinks he isn't the most talented receiver on Denver's roster is kidding himself. I have mad respect for Eddie Royal. Kid is a budding superstar. But he continues to see single coverage every week BECAUSE Brandon Marshall is playing on the same field with him. It's right there on film. Watch the game tape. Defenses continuously roll coverage to Marshall's side with safety help over the top because they fear him so much. Could he improve his hands? Sure. Is he perfect? Of course not. No receiver is. Just understand WHY things happen the way they do. In defensive meetings during the week, you have to pick something on offense to take away. I have watched every snap of every Denver game this year, as I'm sure many of you also have. In every game in which Marshall and Royal have both played, Marshall commands more defensive attention.
All this said, I am extremely disappointed with his lack of production of late. I don't expect single-digit point totals every week from a guy with this kind of ability. But his ability is also the catch-22. There is no way he can be benched. The minute you bench him, he'll go for 200 and 3 in your playoff game. The guy is maddening to own, I grant you. What can you do? Gotta ride it out.
I agree he is very frustrating to own, but you can't bench him. My only hope is that defenses start keying on Royal now and loosen up the coverage on Marshall. Preferably starting next week and continuing through week 16 so I can win the championship, mkay?
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
He's also had a handful of plays, at least one or two for long TDs, called back on chop-blocks/other penalties this year if my memory serves correctly.Not trying to make excuses for him(since I have no dog in this fight), but drop another couple TDs and around 100 yards to his totals and I doubt there's anywhere near the hand-wringing about him. He was still in the top 8 WRs in both my non-ppr leagues coming into this week. Another 2 TDs and a about a hundred yards and he'd be tied for WR 4, in one less game than 2 of the 3 guys ahead of him.He's only really had 2 "abortion" type games coming into this week(obviously, this week wasn't great either, but hardly "abortion" level). His demise has been greatly exaggerated, IMO. Unless you drafted him as a top 3 WR, which I expect few did given the suspension crap from back then, you're likely getting what you paid for. If you were expecting him to be WR1 at season's end, then you were likely going to be disappointed no matter what.
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thatguy
Footballguy
Yup. That was a terrible non-call.There also was a play early in the game where Cutler targeted him in the endzone. Marshall got completely manhandled by 2 defenders and no flag. I swear this happens to him once a game. Do the refs have it in for Marshall due to his past off-field issues?It should also be noted that when he does get single coverage, lately he has been getting a step on the CB, but Cutler is missing him down the sideline on go routes. It's pretty frustrating. He underthrew him terribly today on one play when Marshall was streaking down the sideline and all Marshall could do on the play was break up an interception.Allow me to break this down realistically, since many of you seem to have a bias for or against the guy.
I own Marshall, but I try to keep emotion out of fantasy football as much as possible. Anyone who thinks he isn't the most talented receiver on Denver's roster is kidding himself. I have mad respect for Eddie Royal. Kid is a budding superstar. But he continues to see single coverage every week BECAUSE Brandon Marshall is playing on the same field with him. It's right there on film. Watch the game tape. Defenses continuously roll coverage to Marshall's side with safety help over the top because they fear him so much. Could he improve his hands? Sure. Is he perfect? Of course not. No receiver is. Just understand WHY things happen the way they do. In defensive meetings during the week, you have to pick something on offense to take away. I have watched every snap of every Denver game this year, as I'm sure many of you also have. In every game in which Marshall and Royal have both played, Marshall commands more defensive attention.
All this said, I am extremely disappointed with his lack of production of late. I don't expect single-digit point totals every week from a guy with this kind of ability. But his ability is also the catch-22. There is no way he can be benched. The minute you bench him, he'll go for 200 and 3 in your playoff game. The guy is maddening to own, I grant you. What can you do? Gotta ride it out.I agree he is very frustrating to own, but you can't bench him. My only hope is that defenses start keying on Royal now and loosen up the coverage on Marshall. Preferably starting next week and continuing through week 16 so I can win the championship, mkay?
Judge Smails
Footballguy
I agree that Marshall is getting a ton of attention, and often has 2 to 3 opposing jerseys in his zip code. I am frustrated that he hasn't been as physical as he used to be. He used to be TO like in creating his own separation - haven't seen that lately. I hope he rewards us in the playoffs when it counts. All will be forgiven then.
loose circuits
Footballguy
his mother was a mudder?
skillz
Footballguy
It's a quote from a Seinfeld episode.his mother was a mudder?
EdwardCat
Footballguy
Actually, it is originally from the Abbott and Costello show.It's a quote from a Seinfeld episode.his mother was a mudder?
MCguidance
Footballguy
This is why you don't bench him, he could singlehandedly win you a week. I don't understand why people jump on an off throughout the course of the season - these guys are going to have some bad games - and some good ones. He is a very good receiver, much more than a WR3 people claim after a few sub standard weeks.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Yep.As I was saying.....
DrJamesAndrews Fan
Footballguy
Tape that Hip up for another 2 weeks...Me Luv Me Sum Brandon!!!!
az_prof
Footballguy
Not too many can beat double when there is no threat of a running game. Denver's running game this year has been very disappointing and there really is no one else on the offense to scheme against.Of course you gotta ride it out. But until he can beat double coverage like some other studs he cant be called a WR1Allow me to break this down realistically, since many of you seem to have a bias for or against the guy.
I own Marshall, but I try to keep emotion out of fantasy football as much as possible. Anyone who thinks he isn't the most talented receiver on Denver's roster is kidding himself. I have mad respect for Eddie Royal. Kid is a budding superstar. But he continues to see single coverage every week BECAUSE Brandon Marshall is playing on the same field with him. It's right there on film. Watch the game tape. Defenses continuously roll coverage to Marshall's side with safety help over the top because they fear him so much. Could he improve his hands? Sure. Is he perfect? Of course not. No receiver is. Just understand WHY things happen the way they do. In defensive meetings during the week, you have to pick something on offense to take away. I have watched every snap of every Denver game this year, as I'm sure many of you also have. In every game in which Marshall and Royal have both played, Marshall commands more defensive attention.
All this said, I am extremely disappointed with his lack of production of late. I don't expect single-digit point totals every week from a guy with this kind of ability. But his ability is also the catch-22. There is no way he can be benched. The minute you bench him, he'll go for 200 and 3 in your playoff game. The guy is maddening to own, I grant you. What can you do? Gotta ride it out.
Army Eye
Footballguy
He may know that, he gave you the next line in the scene!It's a quote from a Seinfeld episode.his mother was a mudder?
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