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I love his talent but he has a lot of maturity still to learn in front of him. I'm not sure he quit but he was frustrated for sure.

 
It is kinda of funny, there would be no talk of Brandon Marshall quitting if that pass interference call is not called. After watching the replay, I have no probelm with the penalty being called, he did push off but it could just as easily not been called.

 
If anyone watched the game, Marshall had an insane 80-something yard TD that was called back because of a total BS offensive PI. Couldn't have helped his frustration level. (Might be mentioned in the article, didn't read it ...)

 
If anyone watched the game, Marshall had an insane 80-something yard TD that was called back because of a total BS offensive PI. Couldn't have helped his frustration level. (Might be mentioned in the article, didn't read it ...)
:cry: When will people stop making excuses for players (and especially WR's) behaving like infants?

 
Marshall was busting his tail the entire game. He was pissed that Cutler wasn't even looking at him in the route progressions. Anyone would be frustrated working that hard against bump and run all day and you aren't given the chance to make plays. He should have kept his mouth closed after the game though because throwing the defense under the bus will only make matters worse.

 
I only saw the first half, so this is not a completely informed observation, but from what I saw Cutler was playing worse football than Marshall. I wouldn't be surprised if Porter got in his head however, as Porter is a first class trash talker. He is also good at talking to the media before and after game. Looks like he found a willing audience.

My prediction would be that Marshall and Cutler get their acts together pretty quickly here. Too much talent for them not to.

 
Rome was talking about this a little today.

With these elite-talented WRs that have planet-sized egos, it seems like if you don't get them heavily involved in the first few series, they seem to flake out for the rest of the game.

TO, Chad Johnson, Moss, Marshall, Andre Johnson (not a big ego but this seems to apply to him sometimes too)

it's almost like you should absolutely commit to throwing one pass to these guys on the first series, as sad as that sounds.

 
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Rome was talking about this a little today.With these elite-talented WRs that have planet-sized egos, it seems like if you don't get them heavily involved in the first few series, they seem to flake out for the rest of the game.TO, Chad Johnson, Moss, Marshall, Andre Johnson (not a big ego but this seems to apply to him sometimes too)it's almost like you should absolutely commit to throwing one pass to these guys on the first series, as sad as that sounds.
Rome has one of those egos.
 
If anyone watched the game, Marshall had an insane 80-something yard TD that was called back because of a total BS offensive PI. Couldn't have helped his frustration level. (Might be mentioned in the article, didn't read it ...)
:blackdot: When will people stop making excuses for players (and especially WR's) behaving like infants?
I wasn't aware I was making an excuse? Just noting that if a guy was already frustrated due to coverage, lack of involvement, etc., having a play like that go against you is not going to help.
 
Rome was talking about this a little today.With these elite-talented WRs that have planet-sized egos, it seems like if you don't get them heavily involved in the first few series, they seem to flake out for the rest of the game.TO, Chad Johnson, Moss, Marshall, Andre Johnson (not a big ego but this seems to apply to him sometimes too)it's almost like you should absolutely commit to throwing one pass to these guys on the first series, as sad as that sounds.
Well guilty as charged then because when I played I wanted the damn ball too!
 
If anyone watched the game, Marshall had an insane 80-something yard TD that was called back because of a total BS offensive PI. Couldn't have helped his frustration level. (Might be mentioned in the article, didn't read it ...)
:violin: When will people stop making excuses for players (and especially WR's) behaving like infants?
I wasn't aware I was making an excuse? Just noting that if a guy was already frustrated due to coverage, lack of involvement, etc., having a play like that go against you is not going to help.
Help what?
 
Rome was talking about this a little today.With these elite-talented WRs that have planet-sized egos, it seems like if you don't get them heavily involved in the first few series, they seem to flake out for the rest of the game.TO, Chad Johnson, Moss, Marshall, Andre Johnson (not a big ego but this seems to apply to him sometimes too)it's almost like you should absolutely commit to throwing one pass to these guys on the first series, as sad as that sounds.
Well guilty as charged then because when I played I wanted the damn ball too!
:goodposting: I yelled at my coach in a HS game from the field once because we weren't throwing the ball enough.
 
There was only one play that I noticed where it seemed like he quit... On Denver's last drive Cutler threw it to him over the middle and a defender was zeroing in on him. He seemed to give up on the ball entirely even though it was quite catchable and instead leveled the DB who was closing in on him. It pissed me off and I have no idea why he did it. Other than that, I thought he played as hard as you can play.

 
Rome was talking about this a little today.With these elite-talented WRs that have planet-sized egos, it seems like if you don't get them heavily involved in the first few series, they seem to flake out for the rest of the game.TO, Chad Johnson, Moss, Marshall, Andre Johnson (not a big ego but this seems to apply to him sometimes too)it's almost like you should absolutely commit to throwing one pass to these guys on the first series, as sad as that sounds.
Well guilty as charged then because when I played I wanted the damn ball too!
there's a difference between always wanting the ball, and sleepwalking through the game if you don't get it early.
 
As a Colts fan I always thought that Harrison was soft because he avoided contact, and seldom gets yards after contact, and that was from the very beginning of his career. The thing about Harrison is that he was smarter than any WR in the league to go along with all that talent. He knows how to gain yds and go down. I also think that Marshall is soft, but he has a better body than Harrison. The problem is, is that he is stupid.

 
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Rome was talking about this a little today.

With these elite-talented WRs that have planet-sized egos, it seems like if you don't get them heavily involved in the first few series, they seem to flake out for the rest of the game.

TO, Chad Johnson, Moss, Marshall, Andre Johnson (not a big ego but this seems to apply to him sometimes too)

it's almost like you should absolutely commit to throwing one pass to these guys on the first series, as sad as that sounds.
I'd have no problem with that.It is kind of ####ty how WR's get the "ego" label. Does anyone think that an elite level RB wouldn't be crying if he only got 5 carries in a game?

 
Marshall is going to attract attention simply because of his immense talent (along with his former problems off the field). No doubt he got frustrated, tho. That said, I would've been, too. The PI call was bogus, but you have to live with it. Still, I saw no play where he quit. He did drop a catchable ball in the endzone towards the end of the game, but it wasn't for lack of effort.

It seems to me the author is criticizing Marhsall for taking a tongue-lashing from Porter. Should he have retaliated? LOL. A lot of people thought Marshall would already be out of the league by now. To his credit, he's stayed out of trouble (as far as we know). He should be commended for that. He isn't perfect, but who is? There's probably better options in redraft leagues, but I wouldn't trade him for any WR in dynasty play. I also wouldn't trade Marshall for any WR in the NFL (real-time). He's simply the most gifted WR in football. Will he ever reach his full potential? Sure (if he stays out of trouble).

 
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See, the issue here is guys like Marshall are relied on week in and week out by fantasy footballers all over the globe. If it weren't for fantasy football the NFL would lose a lot of money. I would conservatively estimate the loss at about 40%. Someone needs to talk with him. This is how it starts. If stars continue to underperform the NFL takes a hit in the wallet.

 
If anyone watched the game, Marshall had an insane 80-something yard TD that was called back because of a total BS offensive PI. Couldn't have helped his frustration level. (Might be mentioned in the article, didn't read it ...)
:towelwave: When will people stop making excuses for players (and especially WR's) behaving like infants?
I wasn't aware I was making an excuse? Just noting that if a guy was already frustrated due to coverage, lack of involvement, etc., having a play like that go against you is not going to help.
Help what?
I'm not sure what your are trying to get at? My post was pretty clear and I'm not going to re-type the same sentence that stated my point. But if you insist on needing a direct object, it will not help a player's frustration level.
 
As a Colts fan I always thought that Harrison was soft because he avoided contact, and seldom gets yards after contact, and that was from the very beginning of his career. The thing about Harrison is that he was smarter than any WR in the league to go along with all that talent. He knows how to gain yds and go down. I also think that Marshall is soft, but he has a better body than Harrison. The problem is, is that he is stupid.
What makes you think Marshall is soft? He is always trying to break tackles and likes going over the middle.
 
If anyone watched the game, Marshall had an insane 80-something yard TD that was called back because of a total BS offensive PI. Couldn't have helped his frustration level. (Might be mentioned in the article, didn't read it ...)
:violin: When will people stop making excuses for players (and especially WR's) behaving like infants?
I wasn't aware I was making an excuse? Just noting that if a guy was already frustrated due to coverage, lack of involvement, etc., having a play like that go against you is not going to help.
Help what?
I'm not sure what your are trying to get at? My post was pretty clear and I'm not going to re-type the same sentence that stated my point. But if you insist on needing a direct object, it will not help a player's frustration level.
Right, he gets frustrated easily, just like an infant. What a pro!
 
As a Colts fan I always thought that Harrison was soft because he avoided contact, and seldom gets yards after contact, and that was from the very beginning of his career. The thing about Harrison is that he was smarter than any WR in the league to go along with all that talent. He knows how to gain yds and go down. I also think that Marshall is soft, but he has a better body than Harrison. The problem is, is that he is stupid.
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. You talk about how Harrison is smart, delve into some quasi-homo-eroticism, and then talk about how Marshall is stupid, all the while calling both players soft... I'm truly lost.
 
Much ado about nothin'. I watched every play. Cutler was HORRIBLE the first half. I mean it looked like he's never played QB before. He dropped back and just locked in a receiver. It looked like every throw that was close enough to a receiver was gonna get picked. I thought the Miami D did a great job locking down Marshall. Sure he was frustrated, by the D, and by Cutler. But he didn't go TO on anybody. And he was pissed about the weak offensive pass interference call, but no more than Cutler or Shanny. Anybody thinking Marshall is soft does not no the game - kid can take and give some hits. I for one can't wait to see big mouth Porter get his bell rung.

 
As a Colts fan I always thought that Harrison was soft because he avoided contact, and seldom gets yards after contact, and that was from the very beginning of his career. The thing about Harrison is that he was smarter than any WR in the league to go along with all that talent. He knows how to gain yds and go down. I also think that Marshall is soft, but he has a better body than Harrison. The problem is, is that he is stupid.
What makes you think Marshall is soft? He is always trying to break tackles and likes going over the middle.
:violin: Not to mention he is a great blocker. He hardly ever, if at all, goes down or runs out of bounds. The complete opposite of Harrison in the way they play. Boldin is a better comparison. A stronger, bigger, faster, younger, stupider Boldin.
 
Hoss_Cartwright said:
As a Colts fan I always thought that Harrison was soft because he avoided contact, and seldom gets yards after contact, and that was from the very beginning of his career. The thing about Harrison is that he was smarter than any WR in the league to go along with all that talent. He knows how to gain yds and go down. I also think that Marshall is soft, but he has a better body than Harrison. The problem is, is that he is stupid.
If you played in the NFL you would soon realize that players who take a lot of hits don't last long. The smart play is to be as effective as you can be without taking major hits. Players like Harrison and Rice are smart dudes. Only an idiot would respect players based on how much they get hit.
 
Hoss_Cartwright said:
As a Colts fan I always thought that Harrison was soft because he avoided contact, and seldom gets yards after contact, and that was from the very beginning of his career. The thing about Harrison is that he was smarter than any WR in the league to go along with all that talent. He knows how to gain yds and go down. I also think that Marshall is soft, but he has a better body than Harrison. The problem is, is that he is stupid.
If you played in the NFL you would soon realize that players who take a lot of hits don't last long. The smart play is to be as effective as you can be without taking major hits. Players like Harrison and Rice are smart dudes. Only an idiot would respect players based on how much they get hit.
or dish them out?Hines Ward, anyone?

come on...elite WR's are not cut from identical cloth, and anyone who has watched Marshall isolated cant call the guy soft, stupid (on the field) or any such thing. He played his ### off Sunday and just didnt get the ball thrown his way enough. That's on Cutler, who's been wretched of late, and not all Marshall. If Shanahan can get Jays head back on straight, and re-discover a running game that does better than LOW double digits, then Big Brandon and maybe even the Broncos will be fine. Thats a big if.

 
Judge Smails said:
Much ado about nothin'. I watched every play. Cutler was HORRIBLE the first half. I mean it looked like he's never played QB before. He dropped back and just locked in a receiver. It looked like every throw that was close enough to a receiver was gonna get picked. I thought the Miami D did a great job locking down Marshall. Sure he was frustrated, by the D, and by Cutler. But he didn't go TO on anybody. And he was pissed about the weak offensive pass interference call, but no more than Cutler or Shanny. Anybody thinking Marshall is soft does not no the game - kid can take and give some hits. I for one can't wait to see big mouth Porter get his bell rung.
You might as well be describing week 2, when Marshall had 18 receptions and 20 targets.I don't recall anyone disparaging Cutler's play then, and certainly no Marshall owners were complaining.

 
It is kinda of funny, there would be no talk of Brandon Marshall quitting if that pass interference call is not called. After watching the replay, I have no probelm with the penalty being called, he did push off but it could just as easily not been called.
with what, his index finger. there was hardly any contact on that play, nowhere near a sufficient amount to throw a flag for. he extended his arm from what i remember and his index finger was the only part of his arm that made contact after 5 yards. my friend who is a big fins fan also agreed it was a horrid call fwiw.
If anyone watched the game, Marshall had an insane 80-something yard TD that was called back because of a total BS offensive PI. Couldn't have helped his frustration level. (Might be mentioned in the article, didn't read it ...)
after the play, the fustration level from Cutler/Marshall told me the game was over.
thatguy said:
There was only one play that I noticed where it seemed like he quit... On Denver's last drive Cutler threw it to him over the middle and a defender was zeroing in on him. He seemed to give up on the ball entirely even though it was quite catchable and instead leveled the DB who was closing in on him. It pissed me off and I have no idea why he did it. Other than that, I thought he played as hard as you can play.
it wasn't that he quit, Brandon just tried to avoid a hit and alligator armed the catch.
 
I love his talent but he has a lot of maturity still to learn in front of him. I'm not sure he quit but he was frustrated for sure.
:( writers need jobs too I guess. QUIT on his team? He's a young emerging star. It's not gonna all be 20 catch games. I just hopes he learns from this and sees how they defended him. I mean Porter is an ###, but he and the phins D is GOOD and intimidating. Non story really.
 
Judge Smails said:
Much ado about nothin'. I watched every play. Cutler was HORRIBLE the first half. I mean it looked like he's never played QB before. He dropped back and just locked in a receiver. It looked like every throw that was close enough to a receiver was gonna get picked. I thought the Miami D did a great job locking down Marshall. Sure he was frustrated, by the D, and by Cutler. But he didn't go TO on anybody. And he was pissed about the weak offensive pass interference call, but no more than Cutler or Shanny. Anybody thinking Marshall is soft does not no the game - kid can take and give some hits. I for one can't wait to see big mouth Porter get his bell rung.
I bet Hines Ward would love to light up porter.
 
thatguy said:
Hoss_Cartwright said:
As a Colts fan I always thought that Harrison was soft because he avoided contact, and seldom gets yards after contact, and that was from the very beginning of his career. The thing about Harrison is that he was smarter than any WR in the league to go along with all that talent. He knows how to gain yds and go down. I also think that Marshall is soft, but he has a better body than Harrison. The problem is, is that he is stupid.
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. You talk about how Harrison is smart, delve into some quasi-homo-eroticism, and then talk about how Marshall is stupid, all the while calling both players soft... I'm truly lost.
The "he is stupid" comment really had nothing to do with his play. He's just stupid :goodposting: Yes, Harrison is smart by avoiding contact after the catch, but I hate that style of play, but given Harrison's body type, it has served him well. However, the end is near for Harrison.
 
It is kinda of funny, there would be no talk of Brandon Marshall quitting if that pass interference call is not called. After watching the replay, I have no probelm with the penalty being called, he did push off but it could just as easily not been called.
with what, his index finger. there was hardly any contact on that play, nowhere near a sufficient amount to throw a flag for. he extended his arm from what i remember and his index finger was the only part of his arm that made contact after 5 yards. my friend who is a big fins fan also agreed it was a horrid call fwiw.
If anyone watched the game, Marshall had an insane 80-something yard TD that was called back because of a total BS offensive PI. Couldn't have helped his frustration level. (Might be mentioned in the article, didn't read it ...)
after the play, the fustration level from Cutler/Marshall told me the game was over.
thatguy said:
There was only one play that I noticed where it seemed like he quit... On Denver's last drive Cutler threw it to him over the middle and a defender was zeroing in on him. He seemed to give up on the ball entirely even though it was quite catchable and instead leveled the DB who was closing in on him. It pissed me off and I have no idea why he did it. Other than that, I thought he played as hard as you can play.
it wasn't that he quit, Brandon just tried to avoid a hit and alligator armed the catch.
Well, I guess we can agree to disagree, because in the game I was watching, he DID quit on the ball. Making a half-a** attempt to reel it in is as good as quitting. However, it was awesome when he knocked the DB flat on his behind. Regardless, I agree with your assessment in that not only Marshall, but Cutler and the rest of the team, were mired in frustration. It would hard for anyone to concentrate given the state of affairs they were in.
 
thatguy said:
Hoss_Cartwright said:
As a Colts fan I always thought that Harrison was soft because he avoided contact, and seldom gets yards after contact, and that was from the very beginning of his career. The thing about Harrison is that he was smarter than any WR in the league to go along with all that talent. He knows how to gain yds and go down. I also think that Marshall is soft, but he has a better body than Harrison. The problem is, is that he is stupid.
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. You talk about how Harrison is smart, delve into some quasi-homo-eroticism, and then talk about how Marshall is stupid, all the while calling both players soft... I'm truly lost.
The "he is stupid" comment really had nothing to do with his play. He's just stupid :lmao: Yes, Harrison is smart by avoiding contact after the catch, but I hate that style of play, but given Harrison's body type, it has served him well. However, the end is near for Harrison.
That style has worked for Harrison and like you said he'd probably be done if not for it. It may be boring at times, but no one can question it's effectiveness... and that soft-go-down-immediately style did lead to that TD in the playoff game against Denver when no Bronco defender touched him on what was probably the laziest and boneheaded defensive play I've ever seen. And to be clear I was really just messing with you with my post... But I'm still not getting the whole 'Marshall is soft' thing. I've watched every game of his career and at least the way I see it he's the antithesis of soft. If you want to call him stupid, I guess that's your prerogative - I'll just say he's not the brightest guy in the world and leave it at that. But I'm not sure he's stupid - he just has deeply rooted maturity issues.
 
The DENVER writer wrote an article trashing the local star based entirely on Joey Porter comments. WOW! Makes sense. Porter is so reputable............

Marshall didn't quit and was smart not to hang around after the game to jaw with Porter. Porter is an idiot and Marshall is the one with everything to lose in that situation. The writer is an idiot basing his story on Porter comments..........

 
:devil: I yelled at my coach in a HS game from the field once because we weren't throwing the ball enough.
I was that way on the football field too. Yelling at coaches, teammates, officials, ball boys - I recall one exchange after getting yanked -Coach: "WHAT ARE YOU DOING? HIT THE F-ING HOLE!" Me: "I DIDN'T SEE A F-ING HOLE!""DID YOU SEE THE THREE YARD LOSS WHEN YOU CUT OUTSIDE?""IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FOUR IF I HADN'T""GET OUTTA HERE."I don't recall getting the ball much that game...On the basketball court I was a freaking church mouse... go figure.
 
The DENVER writer wrote an article trashing the local star based entirely on Joey Porter comments. WOW! Makes sense. Porter is so reputable............Marshall didn't quit and was smart not to hang around after the game to jaw with Porter. Porter is an idiot and Marshall is the one with everything to lose in that situation. The writer is an idiot basing his story on Porter comments..........
I don't think there's a player I dislike more than Joey Porter. He may be a solid player but he's a loser. I can't stand the guy.
 
Rome was talking about this a little today.With these elite-talented WRs that have planet-sized egos, it seems like if you don't get them heavily involved in the first few series, they seem to flake out for the rest of the game.TO, Chad Johnson, Moss, Marshall, Andre Johnson (not a big ego but this seems to apply to him sometimes too)it's almost like you should absolutely commit to throwing one pass to these guys on the first series, as sad as that sounds.
Well guilty as charged then because when I played I wanted the damn ball too!
Interesting. I wanted to win games.
 
It's great that this thread can be used to help former athletes relive their glory days. But concerning Marshall, I expect the team will make an effort to get him involved early. They shouldn't have to, but they have to. Their success will be coming through the air, and they need him to be a threat (or a perceived threat) when they drop back to pass.

I don't think he intentionally quit on his team. I don't think he has the maturity yet to keep his head in the game when things aren't going his way. I think he'll get there.

 
The more I hear about this on ESPN, the more pathetic Porter looks..........

 
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It's not always just one thing with football, I think it cuts deeper than just the futile run game. They need Scheff back to open up the middle of the field. A good TE is a WRs best friend in many cases. Ask Witten/TO, Daniels/AJ, Clark/Wayne, Winslow/Edwards, Shockey/Colston, etc, etc.

One example, take away a guy like Shockey from Plaxico - what you get are a lot more safeties over the top to prevent the deep ball, hence Plax's low TD total this year compared to past seasons.

This game is all about personnel and mismatches. In the NBA, you need 3 big time players to get it done. On offense, if you have 3 legitimate weapons, you can impose your will most times. Stokley and Darrell/Nate Jackson aren't going to scare anybody. Marshall and Royal is not enough right now because the run game is not there. But if Scheffler gets back, it will change the matchups that defenses want to take away - Marshall.

Buy low.

 
It's not always just one thing with football, I think it cuts deeper than just the futile run game. They need Scheff back to open up the middle of the field. A good TE is a WRs best friend in many cases. Ask Witten/TO, Daniels/AJ, Clark/Wayne, Winslow/Edwards, Shockey/Colston, etc, etc.

One example, take away a guy like Shockey from Plaxico - what you get are a lot more safeties over the top to prevent the deep ball, hence Plax's low TD total this year compared to past seasons.

This game is all about personnel and mismatches. In the NBA, you need 3 big time players to get it done. On offense, if you have 3 legitimate weapons, you can impose your will most times. Stokley and Darrell/Nate Jackson aren't going to scare anybody. Marshall and Royal is not enough right now because the run game is not there. But if Scheffler gets back, it will change the matchups that defenses want to take away - Marshall.

Buy low.
If you can buy low on Marshall right now you absolutely should. But I really don't think many people will be selling low.
 
It's not always just one thing with football, I think it cuts deeper than just the futile run game. They need Scheff back to open up the middle of the field. A good TE is a WRs best friend in many cases. Ask Witten/TO, Daniels/AJ, Clark/Wayne, Winslow/Edwards, Shockey/Colston, etc, etc.

One example, take away a guy like Shockey from Plaxico - what you get are a lot more safeties over the top to prevent the deep ball, hence Plax's low TD total this year compared to past seasons.

This game is all about personnel and mismatches. In the NBA, you need 3 big time players to get it done. On offense, if you have 3 legitimate weapons, you can impose your will most times. Stokley and Darrell/Nate Jackson aren't going to scare anybody. Marshall and Royal is not enough right now because the run game is not there. But if Scheffler gets back, it will change the matchups that defenses want to take away - Marshall.

Buy low.
If you can buy low on Marshall right now you absolutely should. But I really don't think many people will be selling low.
I for one will not sell Marshall low, but I also agree that the loss of Scheffler has hurt the entire offense.... Would also help if Cutler could show the ability to go through reads/progressions instead of locking onto a guy from the snap
 
It's not always just one thing with football, I think it cuts deeper than just the futile run game. They need Scheff back to open up the middle of the field. A good TE is a WRs best friend in many cases. Ask Witten/TO, Daniels/AJ, Clark/Wayne, Winslow/Edwards, Shockey/Colston, etc, etc.

One example, take away a guy like Shockey from Plaxico - what you get are a lot more safeties over the top to prevent the deep ball, hence Plax's low TD total this year compared to past seasons.

This game is all about personnel and mismatches. In the NBA, you need 3 big time players to get it done. On offense, if you have 3 legitimate weapons, you can impose your will most times. Stokley and Darrell/Nate Jackson aren't going to scare anybody. Marshall and Royal is not enough right now because the run game is not there. But if Scheffler gets back, it will change the matchups that defenses want to take away - Marshall.

Buy low.
If you can buy low on Marshall right now you absolutely should. But I really don't think many people will be selling low.
I for one will not sell Marshall low, but I also agree that the loss of Scheffler has hurt the entire offense.... Would also help if Cutler could show the ability to go through reads/progressions instead of locking onto a guy from the snap
He started showing signs of improvement in this area last week. I think he'll get there... Hopefully sooner rather than later.
 
Marshall replies on Monday:

On Sunday, Dolphins linebacker Joey Porter ripped Broncos receiver Brandon Marshall, calling Marshall "soft" and saying he would "mope and cry" when he didn't get the ball.

Now Marshall has escalated the war of words.

Talking to reporters in Denver today, Marshall questioned why Porter talks trash, what his insecurities are, and even what he does on the dance floor when he goes out to nightclubs.

"Joey Porter's one of those guys, when you've got guys who talk a lot of trash and want to talk about people or put people down, they have their own insecurities. His insecurities, I don't know," Marshall said, per the Rocky Mountain News.

"But he's definitely one of those guys who all those muscles are popcorn muscles. He's soft. We hear stories floating around the league all the time about him, as far as him being in nightclubs, dancing with his shirt off like a girl, or in the playground getting beat up back in California," Marshall added. "He's one of those guys that no matter how big he is, he can still get knocked on his butt. He's soft. And you can tell the way he's talking. His nickname's 'Peezy'. I don't know what 'Peezy' is, Joey."
 
It's not always just one thing with football, I think it cuts deeper than just the futile run game. They need Scheff back to open up the middle of the field. A good TE is a WRs best friend in many cases. Ask Witten/TO, Daniels/AJ, Clark/Wayne, Winslow/Edwards, Shockey/Colston, etc, etc.One example, take away a guy like Shockey from Plaxico - what you get are a lot more safeties over the top to prevent the deep ball, hence Plax's low TD total this year compared to past seasons.This game is all about personnel and mismatches. In the NBA, you need 3 big time players to get it done. On offense, if you have 3 legitimate weapons, you can impose your will most times. Stokley and Darrell/Nate Jackson aren't going to scare anybody. Marshall and Royal is not enough right now because the run game is not there. But if Scheffler gets back, it will change the matchups that defenses want to take away - Marshall.Buy low.
While I agree that a good TE can make things easier for a WR, not all of your examples are very good. AJ has been doing it since before Daniels, Edwards sucks this year regardless, Colston did quite well without Shockey, and last year Shockey was out injured most of the year and Plax did pretty darn well without him.
 
Marshall replies on Monday:

On Sunday, Dolphins linebacker Joey Porter ripped Broncos receiver Brandon Marshall, calling Marshall "soft" and saying he would "mope and cry" when he didn't get the ball.

Now Marshall has escalated the war of words.

Talking to reporters in Denver today, Marshall questioned why Porter talks trash, what his insecurities are, and even what he does on the dance floor when he goes out to nightclubs.

"Joey Porter's one of those guys, when you've got guys who talk a lot of trash and want to talk about people or put people down, they have their own insecurities. His insecurities, I don't know," Marshall said, per the Rocky Mountain News.

"But he's definitely one of those guys who all those muscles are popcorn muscles. He's soft. We hear stories floating around the league all the time about him, as far as him being in nightclubs, dancing with his shirt off like a girl, or in the playground getting beat up back in California," Marshall added. "He's one of those guys that no matter how big he is, he can still get knocked on his butt. He's soft. And you can tell the way he's talking. His nickname's 'Peezy'. I don't know what 'Peezy' is, Joey."
:thumbdown: How dare he speak of a Foothill High grad that way!
 
The DENVER writer wrote an article trashing the local star based entirely on Joey Porter comments. WOW! Makes sense. Porter is so reputable............

Marshall didn't quit and was smart not to hang around after the game to jaw with Porter. Porter is an idiot and Marshall is the one with everything to lose in that situation. The writer is an idiot basing his story on Porter comments..........
I don't think there's a player I dislike more than Joey Porter. He may be a solid player but he's a loser. I can't stand the guy.
It's not always just one thing with football, I think it cuts deeper than just the futile run game. They need Scheff back to open up the middle of the field. A good TE is a WRs best friend in many cases. Ask Witten/TO, Daniels/AJ, Clark/Wayne, Winslow/Edwards, Shockey/Colston, etc, etc.

One example, take away a guy like Shockey from Plaxico - what you get are a lot more safeties over the top to prevent the deep ball, hence Plax's low TD total this year compared to past seasons.

This game is all about personnel and mismatches. In the NBA, you need 3 big time players to get it done. On offense, if you have 3 legitimate weapons, you can impose your will most times. Stokley and Darrell/Nate Jackson aren't going to scare anybody. Marshall and Royal is not enough right now because the run game is not there. But if Scheffler gets back, it will change the matchups that defenses want to take away - Marshall.

Buy low.
If you can buy low on Marshall right now you absolutely should. But I really don't think many people will be selling low.
Hines Ward?...I got Marshall for Slaton and Holmes. It's not PPR, but you get a point per 1st down reception.

 

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