Brandon Marshall's Fan Club Has a New Member (1 Viewer)

[Sigmund Bloom]

As co-president of the Marshall fan club (with Chaos Commish), it is my duty to continue the hype. With that, I bring you the comments of the newest member, Champ Bailey:

"I want to know what other teams were thinking passing up on him," Denver Pro Bowl cornerback Champ Bailey said of Marshall. "Guy's an incredible talent, obviously. You can prove yourself only so much in practice, but he's doing well enough to catch everybody's eye. I want to see how that translates to Sunday."

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[Chuck Cecil]

 

[Dope]

Nice.

 

[P Boy]

IT'S ONLY PASSING CAMP!

I do remember someone very reputable on the DEN roster comparing Quentin Griffin favorably to Barry Sanders.

I think I'll withhold judgment, though this is much better than a negative report, certainly. I want to see how it translates to Sundays, also.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

IT'S ONLY PASSING CAMP!

I do remember someone very reputable on the DEN roster comparing Quentin Griffin favorably to Barry Sanders.

I think I'll withhold judgment, though this is much better than a negative report, certainly. I want to see how it translates to Sundays, also.

by no means am i saying this means anything. I just love stoking the hype, and I was jazzed to see Champ Bailey had taken notice of Marshall.

 

[P Boy]

IT'S ONLY PASSING CAMP!

I do remember someone very reputable on the DEN roster comparing Quentin Griffin favorably to Barry Sanders. 

I think I'll withhold judgment, though this is much better than a negative report, certainly.  I want to see how it translates to Sundays, also.

by no means am i saying this means anything. I just love stoking the hype, and I was jazzed to see Champ Bailey had taken notice of Marshall.

I understand. As a Donkey fan, I've love nothing better than to see Marshall be a stud. Let's just say that Shanahan's previous judgments regarding drafting WRs leaves me somewhat, shall we say, skeptical...?

 

[ShadowMaster]

As co-president of the Marshall fan club (with Chaos Commish), it is my duty to continue the hype. With that, I bring you the comments of the newest member, Champ Bailey:

"I want to know what other teams were thinking passing up on him," Denver Pro Bowl cornerback Champ Bailey said of Marshall. "Guy's an incredible talent, obviously. You can prove yourself only so much in practice, but he's doing well enough to catch everybody's eye. I want to see how that translates to Sunday."

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You can love the man all you want, but his opportunities are in the toilet right now behind Walker and Smith. Exactly who do you see him bumping for playing time?

....and before you throw the WR3 position out there, lets just review and recall that Denver is a run first team when they get their way.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

As co-president of the Marshall fan club (with Chaos Commish), it is my duty to continue the hype. With that, I bring you the comments of the newest member, Champ Bailey:

"I want to know what other teams were thinking passing up on him," Denver Pro Bowl cornerback Champ Bailey said of Marshall. "Guy's an incredible talent, obviously. You can prove yourself only so much in practice, but he's doing well enough to catch everybody's eye. I want to see how that translates to Sunday."

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You can love the man all you want, but his opportunities are in the toilet right now behind Walker and Smith. Exactly who do you see him bumping for playing time?

....and before you throw the WR3 position out there, lets just review and recall that Denver is a run first team when they get their way.

Oh, my hype for Marshall is all about his long term potential, not short term. Dude was a starting safety in 2004. He needs seasoning and polish, there's no doubt about it.

 

[noneother]

is he on champ's dynasty roster too?

 

[GroveDiesel]

Hey, if a WR's teammate that seems to be getting burned more and more often says that he's good, it must be true.

 

[Rovers]

As co-president of the Marshall fan club (with Chaos Commish), it is my duty to continue the hype. With that, I bring you the comments of the newest member, Champ Bailey:

"I want to know what other teams were thinking passing up on him," Denver Pro Bowl cornerback Champ Bailey said of Marshall. "Guy's an incredible talent, obviously. You can prove yourself only so much in practice, but he's doing well enough to catch everybody's eye. I want to see how that translates to Sunday."

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You can love the man all you want, but his opportunities are in the toilet right now behind Walker and Smith. Exactly who do you see him bumping for playing time?

....and before you throw the WR3 position out there, lets just review and recall that Denver is a run first team when they get their way.

I agree, as it relates to THIS year, but...Let's see how Walker's knee is, long term. Smith won't play forever. Shanny is borderline famous for getting rid of QB's. Cutler will have a year on the practice field with Marshall. By 2009..... they *could* be a very dangerous duo!

 

[grind]

Darius Watts

 

[P Boy]

Darius Watts

Who is the first DEN WR cut this year?I'll take DEN WRs for $300 please, Alex.

 

[SSOG]

Darius Watts

Who is the first DEN WR cut this year?I'll take DEN WRs for $300 please, Alex.

Yeah, unless Shanny moves Middlebrooks to WR, first.

Hey, if a WR's teammate that seems to be getting burned more and more often says that he's good, it must be true.

More and more often than never is still very rarely.

 

[Chaos Commish]

As co-president of the Marshall fan club (with Chaos Commish), it is my duty to continue the hype. With that, I bring you the comments of the newest member, Champ Bailey:

Toughest lesson I learned in the Z30 draft was not to wait on players you want because they should fall. I wanted him at 35, he went at 32. I saw today you took him at 28 and that made me feel dumb. It happened with two other players. I still think Marshall is potentially the best WR in this draft, seriously. In my final rankings I gave Holmes the nod, but had Marshall #2 ahead of Jackson. And I'm just entertained by the negative comments in regard to this opinion. I still like the TO comparison. I've read his most recent interviews and quotes and he seems to have great character debunking the possible character concnerns. He also has the type of skillset that will be much more impressive when the pads go on.I. Believe. The. Hype.

 

[cstu]

IT'S ONLY PASSING CAMP!

I do remember someone very reputable on the DEN roster comparing Quentin Griffin favorably to Barry Sanders.

I think I'll withhold judgment, though this is much better than a negative report, certainly. I want to see how it translates to Sundays, also.

This is a little different since it's a Pro Bowl CB going out of his way to hype the guy.

 

[cstu]

is he on champ's dynasty roster too?

 

[bjlmonster]

I took him last night at 22. Yeah, I know that is way too high, but I was targeting a TE and ended up trading for Winslow before I picked. I then traded down two spots (to 22) and didn't want to pass him up.

Dynasty speaking he will be ready when Rod is ready to retire!

 

[ConstruxBoy]

As co-president of the Marshall fan club (with Chaos Commish), it is my duty to continue the hype. With that, I bring you the comments of the newest member, Champ Bailey:

Toughest lesson I learned in the Z30 draft was not to wait on players you want because they should fall. I wanted him at 35, he went at 32. I saw today you took him at 28 and that made me feel dumb.

It happened with two other players.

I still think Marshall is potentially the best WR in this draft, seriously. In my final rankings I gave Holmes the nod, but had Marshall #2 ahead of Jackson. And I'm just entertained by the negative comments in regard to this opinion. I still like the TO comparison. I've read his most recent interviews and quotes and he seems to have great character debunking the possible character concnerns. He also has the type of skillset that will be much more impressive when the pads go on.

I. Believe. The. Hype.

I'll still send you Harrison for LJ, Chaos.

 

[Neo]

A little more hype for the fire:

More Kool Aid

A LEGION OF SUPPORTERS: Monday it was Bailey who gave a ringing endorsement for rookie wide receiver (Brandon) Marshall, today it was Williams who has liked what he has seen from the former University of Central Florida standout.

"I like the Marshall kid," Williams said. "He is a big kid, about 6-4, 235 (lbs). He looks really good, he runs good, he runs pretty good routes. He is physical; he doesn't back down from anyone.

"When I line up against him he does the same things, when Champ lines up on him he does the same things, same with Domonique. We see that in him, he has that competitive edge. I think he is going to be a good player for us this year.

 

[P Boy]

If you're a member of the Brandon Marshall fan club, enjoy the read:

LINK to RMN story

 

[Joe Bryant]

IT'S ONLY PASSING CAMP!

I do remember someone very reputable on the DEN roster comparing Quentin Griffin favorably to Barry Sanders. 

I think I'll withhold judgment, though this is much better than a negative report, certainly.  I want to see how it translates to Sundays, also.

by no means am i saying this means anything. I just love stoking the hype, and I was jazzed to see Champ Bailey had taken notice of Marshall.

Hi Sigmund,I know what you're saying, and it is just passing camp, but I actually think this is fairly significant. When a guy that knows WRs as well as Champ Bailey heaps praise like that on a guy, I definitely take notice.

I don't trade Reggie Wayne for him. But I think it definitely means something. Thanks for posting this.

J

 

[Alluro]

Being a UCF alum, it's great to see Marshall garnering so much praise, so quickly....

I'd just be a little hesitant to throw in the TO comparisons as Marshall's clock speed is not on par with TOs.

As an aside, do any Denver homers out there know what the plan with Darius Watts is? It's looking like he'll be the first cut of the season from my dynasty roster. Thanks

-Alluro

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

If you're a member of the Brandon Marshall fan club, enjoy the read:

LINK to RMN story

ill post the whole story (parts that make me giddy bolded):

Brandon Marshall is creating a buzz during his first NFL camp.

The fourth-round draft pick has been the first name on the lips of several Denver Broncos players when asked which teammate has stood out during the two-week passing camp, which concludes today.

Quarterback Jake Plummer on Wednesday was the latest to praise Marshall, a 6-foot-4, 230-pound player from Central Florida.

Cornerback Darrent Williams also cited Marshall's abilities this week after position-mate Champ Bailey began issuing the verbal bouquets to the rookie by saying he was an "incredible talent" who's "doing well enough to catch everybody's eye."

"I want to know what other teams were thinking passing up on him," Bailey added.

Bailey doesn't have to wonder what Marshall is thinking, though.

The rookie felt "blessed" to be in Denver. Now, he said, "for those guys to say something like that just adds to the whole package."

Bailey's endorsement in particular had Marshall nearly emptying his black book.

Apprised of the comments, Marshall went home and called, among others, his academic adviser in college, fellow Central Florida receiver Mike Walker, his father and his agent.

"I've done all right, but I need to pick it up a little more," he said. "The speed of the game's a little faster, and I need to get my head around a little faster and make every play. But I can't complain. I just have to work to get better."

Marshall, who led Central Florida last season with 74 catches for 1,195 yards and 11 touchdowns, might not have had the same opportunity to impress had Javon Walker (rehabilitation from right knee surgery) and Ashley Lelie (holdout) participated.

And coach Mike Shanahan said April 30 that Marshall possibly projected as a tight end or H-back, but the short-handed receiving corps required Marshall's participation, and he has made the most of it, apparently. (The on-field sessions are closed to the media.)

"He don't back down from anybody," Williams said, adding that the rookie's size also is impressive. "I line up against him, he does the same thing. Champ lines up against him, he does the same thing. He's got that competitive edge.

"He's going to be a good player for us."

It isn't the first time Marshall has had to prove he should be lined up outside. Colleges recruited him as a safety or tight end, but he vowed he could play receiver if given the opportunity. Some scouts viewed him as a tweener, given his size-speed ratio.

So he took the same approach during passing camp he always has.

Marshall figured if he played well, less consideration would be given to switching his position; if not, then maybe he deserved to line up elsewhere.

"Receiver is where my heart's at and I plan on staying there the rest of my career," he said. "But if I have to move around, I have to move around."

Marshall said that while he still is "out there making mistakes, too," the positive vibe he has received only has fed his confidence.

Plummer maintained that the rookie has "surprised" him, but Marshall "has got all the tools," including sure hands and a quick grasp of the playbook.

"When you're out there getting that type of feedback, you know

you're on the right track," Marshall said.

"I'm just trying to stay humble and healthy and continuing to prepare to be out there on that field."

What stands out to me:1) good hard working attitude (at least he's saying things that indicate that), hopefully showing that concerns about his character were overblown.

2) Now Plummer is jumping in, and I particularly like to hear that Marshall is grasping the playbook quickly.

 

[P Boy]

As an aside, do any Denver homers out there know what the plan with Darius Watts is? It's looking like he'll be the first cut of the season from my dynasty roster. Thanks

Looks like your plan for Watts is compatible with Shanahan's plans for him.

 

[Dope]

If you're a member of the Brandon Marshall fan club, enjoy the read:

LINK to RMN story

ill post the whole story (parts that make me giddy bolded):

And coach Mike Shanahan said April 30 that Marshall possibly projected as a tight end or H-back, but the short-handed receiving corps required Marshall's participation, and he has made the most of it, apparently. (The on-field sessions are closed to the media.)

What stands out to me:1) good hard working attitude (at least he's saying things that indicate that), hopefully showing that concerns about his character were overblown.

2) Now Plummer is jumping in, and I particularly like to hear that Marshall is grasping the playbook quickly.

Does the TE/H-back comment make anyone as nervous as it's making me?

 

[SSOG]

IT'S ONLY PASSING CAMP!

I do remember someone very reputable on the DEN roster comparing Quentin Griffin favorably to Barry Sanders.

I think I'll withhold judgment, though this is much better than a negative report, certainly. I want to see how it translates to Sundays, also.

by no means am i saying this means anything. I just love stoking the hype, and I was jazzed to see Champ Bailey had taken notice of Marshall.

Hi Sigmund,I know what you're saying, and it is just passing camp, but I actually think this is fairly significant. When a guy that knows WRs as well as Champ Bailey heaps praise like that on a guy, I definitely take notice.

I don't trade Reggie Wayne for him. But I think it definitely means something. Thanks for posting this.

J

You should have heard the praise Bailey was heaping on Darius Watts last season.

As an aside, do any Denver homers out there know what the plan with Darius Watts is? It's looking like he'll be the first cut of the season from my dynasty roster. Thanks

Looks like your plan for Watts is compatible with Shanahan's plans for him.

Agreed. Unless Middlebrooks falls into Shanny's doghouse and gets moved to WR, I think the first receiver out the door is either Devoe or Watts.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Does the TE/H-back comment make anyone as nervous as it's making me?

I think the gist of the news at passing camp is that he has done well enough to stay at WR.

 

[Dope]

Does the TE/H-back comment make anyone as nervous as it's making me?

I think the gist of the news at passing camp is that he has done well enough to stay at WR.

My rose colored glasses say the same thing.Mt shlep rock luck though can't get by the fact that if they weren't short handed, BM would have been working out with the TE's.

Just an early concern is all.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Does the TE/H-back comment make anyone as nervous as it's making me?

I think the gist of the news at passing camp is that he has done well enough to stay at WR.

My rose colored glasses say the same thing.Mt shlep rock luck though can't get by the fact that if they weren't short handed, BM would have been working out with the TE's.

Just an early concern is all.

well if marshall got converted to TE, he could be a devastating weapon there too. The important thing is that his development is on track. he's turning heads and he'll earn a role in the offense soon enough if he keeps it up.

 

[SSOG]

Does the TE/H-back comment make anyone as nervous as it's making me?

I think the gist of the news at passing camp is that he has done well enough to stay at WR.

If anything, moving to TE/H-back would only *INCREASE* his value. Denver has a very strong recent history of TE involvement in the offense- far more than WR3 involvement. Remember, this is the team that switched Sharpe from WR to TE and made him a future HoFer. While his overall numbers might be down if he switched to TE, his numbers compared to others at his position would be through the roof. If he really won the starting job in Denver, no TE-by-committee, then he'd be a top-5 TE year in and year out. As a WR, I think there's slim chance of him becoming a top-12 or top-18 WR year in and year out.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Does the TE/H-back comment make anyone as nervous as it's making me?

SSOG and Bloom have positive points about the possibility of him being a TE, but I don't like it. Scheffler is the future TE there... I think. Marshall is a bigger project at TE than he is at WR. It could be a great project, but it's not positive news. The TE talk bugged me a little leading up to the draft, but I didn't think it was more than ramblings about an underrated oversized guy. It sounded like something to say rather than serious analysis. Then Shanny's comments on draft day bothered me some, but his further comments (athleticism etc.) kept me optimistic. But drafting a smaller faster but still good sized and physical receiver in the same round finally had me questioning my own hype, nervousness set in. I'm a pretty big Hixon fan too, btw. I thought Denver had a great draft.

I'm not nervous anymore, not with these early reports. If he's proving to be a fast learner (something I couldn't have guessed one way or the other). If he's showing solid work ethic and dispelling the possible character concerns (other things I couldn't have guessed either way). And if he's looking good without pads-- I stand by the comment above, he'll be even better when the pads go on. He's a physical player who uses contact to his advantage. This isn't like Chad Owens tearing it up with quicks in Jax "again" without pads. Marshall manhandles DBs. He doesn't have a speed burners burst off the line, but he uses power and leverage (body lean, arm strength), and combines it with pretty quick feet for 6-4 225, so the routes are sharp and the DB is on his heels from being overpowered. He didn't show good hands, he showed great hands and great instincts going for the ball, diving for catches, going above the defense, adjusting to poor throws, one handing the ball-- soft soft hands.

The big gripe on him has been speed, and it's usually coming from those who either cite the 4.55 at the combine (which is plenty fast) or they watched his online highlights. I saw Marshall get separation deep everytime I saw him (four games). His pro day 40 isn't officially logged anywhere I can find, but he reportedly ran a 4.45 that day-- which is better clock speed than TO, who ran 4.5 and change as a rookie. TO has game speed, not clock speed. And making these kinds of comparisons are just for point of reference, mostly being way too optimistic by name dropping some stud. Marshall could be compared to Calico. All three have size and strength, deceptive speed and/or other similarities; one's great, one's not, the other is unknown. He's got a long road ahead of him, the odds of big impact are long too, but I think it translates.

 

[Dope]

Does the TE/H-back comment make anyone as nervous as it's making me?

I think the gist of the news at passing camp is that he has done well enough to stay at WR.

If anything, moving to TE/H-back would only *INCREASE* his value. Denver has a very strong recent history of TE involvement in the offense- far more than WR3 involvement. Remember, this is the team that switched Sharpe from WR to TE and made him a future HoFer. While his overall numbers might be down if he switched to TE, his numbers compared to others at his position would be through the roof. If he really won the starting job in Denver, no TE-by-committee, then he'd be a top-5 TE year in and year out. As a WR, I think there's slim chance of him becoming a top-12 or top-18 WR year in and year out.

Not if it's a non-te required league.

 

[Dope]

Does the TE/H-back comment make anyone as nervous as it's making me?

SSOG and Bloom have positive points about the possibility of him being a TE, but I don't like it. Scheffler is the future TE there... I think. Marshall is a bigger project at TE than he is at WR. It could be a great project, but it's not positive news. The TE talk bugged me a little leading up to the draft, but I didn't think it was more than ramblings about an underrated oversized guy. It sounded like something to say rather than serious analysis. Then Shanny's comments on draft day bothered me some, but his further comments (athleticism etc.) kept me optimistic. But drafting a smaller faster but still good sized and physical receiver in the same round finally had me questioning my own hype, nervousness set in. I'm a pretty big Hixon fan too, btw. I thought Denver had a great draft.

I'm not nervous anymore, not with these early reports. If he's proving to be a fast learner (something I couldn't have guessed one way or the other). If he's showing solid work ethic and dispelling the possible character concerns (other things I couldn't have guessed either way). And if he's looking good without pads-- I stand by the comment above, he'll be even better when the pads go on. He's a physical player who uses contact to his advantage. This isn't like Chad Owens tearing it up with quicks in Jax "again" without pads. Marshall manhandles DBs. He doesn't have a speed burners burst off the line, but he uses power and leverage (body lean, arm strength), and combines it with pretty quick feet for 6-4 225, so the routes are sharp and the DB is on his heels from being overpowered. He didn't show good hands, he showed great hands and great instincts going for the ball, diving for catches, going above the defense, adjusting to poor throws, one handing the ball-- soft soft hands.

The big gripe on him has been speed, and it's usually coming from those who either cite the 4.55 at the combine (which is plenty fast) or they watched his online highlights. I saw Marshall get separation deep everytime I saw him (four games). His pro day 40 isn't officially logged anywhere I can find, but he reportedly ran a 4.45 that day-- which is better clock speed than TO, who ran 4.5 and change as a rookie. TO has game speed, not clock speed. And making these kinds of comparisons are just for point of reference, mostly being way too optimistic by name dropping some stud. Marshall could be compared to Calico. All three have size and strength, deceptive speed and/or other similarities; one's great, one's not, the other is unknown. He's got a long road ahead of him, the odds of big impact are long too, but I think it translates.

At least I don't feel crazy and alone anymore.

 

[Sand]

Does the TE/H-back comment make anyone as nervous as it's making me?

The big gripe on him has been speed, and it's usually coming from those who either cite the 4.55 at the combine (which is plenty fast) or they watched his online highlights.

Uhhh - that's faster than Jerry Rice's 40 time... Both he and Mike Hass have been downgraded due to this evident lack of speed. Both look to be pretty darn good prospects.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Does the TE/H-back comment make anyone as nervous as it's making me?

The big gripe on him has been speed, and it's usually coming from those who either cite the 4.55 at the combine (which is plenty fast) or they watched his online highlights.

Uhhh - that's faster than Jerry Rice's 40 time... Both he and Mike Hass have been downgraded due to this evident lack of speed. Both look to be pretty darn good prospects.

FWIW, I don't give much of a crap about speed in a WR, I care about separation ability. Slower WRs can have good separation quickness/moves. Hass is a great example of that. I'm not sure about Marshall yet. But I do know that Mike Williams is an example of a guy who couldn't separate from DBs and is struggling as a result.

 

[Bruno2]

More good news for Brandon Marshall, looks like he'll stay at WR.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/teams/broncos/index.html

 

[Pnishthm]

Wow! I can't believe that I missed this thread. Count me in on the Marshall bandwagon! I got him with pick #27 but was trying to move up from about pick # 21 on to take him. I wrote in my draft recap that it wouldn't surprise me to see him turn into the best WR from this draft class. I have seen the guy first hand at UCF games and he is everything mentioned in this thread. Kid has lots of talent and a great head on his shoulders.

 

[Dope]

More good news for Brandon Marshall, looks like he'll stay at WR.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/teams/broncos/index.html

Thanks for the link to that.

 

[Jackal]

kind of odd that link had no mention of scheffler

 

[ChampBailey24]

<----------That's right.

 

[Birdie048]

Well, I am in the middle of my rookie draft in a Hybrid dynasty format (Franchise & RFA tagged players plus rookie contracts) and I feel lucky to have picked up Brandon Marshall at 2.14 (pick #30). He will be on my bench for a year or 2 with Boldin & Wayne in front of him, but he is a welcome addition to go with Reggie Brown from last year's rookie draft!

This makes 2 out of 3 leagues I have him in!

 

[This_Is_Not_VRR]

I'm still reeling from the Darius Watts debacle.

 

[Donnybrook]

I'm still reeling from the Darius Watts debacle.

So am I. So don't shoot the messenger

It was time for Head Coach Mike Shanahan to summarize the recently completed team camp at midday Thursday, and the first question he was asked was a clear and simple one -- who impressed him the most throughout the team's 14 organized offseason sessions?

Shanahan mentioned one name:

Darius Watts.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=334&storyID=5656Allbeit, I can't imagine Watts being as impressive when the pads go back on.

 

[Birdie048]

I'm still reeling from the Darius Watts debacle.

So am I. So don't shoot the messenger

It was time for Head Coach Mike Shanahan to summarize the recently completed team camp at midday Thursday, and the first question he was asked was a clear and simple one -- who impressed him the most throughout the team's 14 organized offseason sessions?

Shanahan mentioned one name:

Darius Watts.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=334&storyID=5656Allbeit, I can't imagine Watts being as impressive when the pads go back on.

Watts showing up is an improvement.... maybe he worked on his hands! but, I agree, without pads, there's not much real praise for Watts. let's see what happens in August!

 

[Bizkiteer]

Remember Watts gives you the "Ooohh" and "Ahhh" all the time w/ some incredible catches. He just doesn't do it consistently. That's the problem skeletor really has with him.

 

[Football Jones]

kind of odd that link had no mention of scheffler

It also didn't mention Stephen Alexander. Kind of odd to leave out your starter (Alexander) & a 2nd round pick (Tony Scheffler). Denver could definitely use an upgrade at TE until Scheffler is ready (I believe this kid is going to be a stud, though). Alexander is better utilized as a backup, but I'm not so sure they're in a big hurry to trade Lelie for a TE. Shanahan supposedly likes Alexander & seems happy with him. No telling what will happen with Lelie. Hard to say. I don't know if the Broncos can stand to move Lelie without getting a WR back. Rod Smith is nearing the end & Walker is coming off major knee surgery. Plus, Watts hasn't been dependable in the past. I realize they're high on Marshall, but you usually never really know how 4th round picks will pan out.

 

[Dave Baker]

I suppose it wouldn't be unheard of for Watts to make a move. He's in his third year and about the time many WRs make their move into prominence.

But the Claw seems unlikely at this point to make a big impact. If he does, I'll be amazed.

I'm not nearly the Marshall fan as Bloom. I see him as a Clarence Moore type that will be a solid 3rd WR and nothing more. But something has to give with Rod Smith quickly getting close to 40.

 

[SSOG]

Remember Watts gives you the "Ooohh" and "Ahhh" all the time w/ some incredible catches. He just doesn't do it consistently. That's the problem skeletor really has with him.

I'm cautiously optimistic. Shanahan is well aware that Watts always looks good when the snaps don't matter, so it would take something else entirely for Shanahan to actually SURPRISE Shanahan.His big weakness was always dropping balls. If he's really improved his hands, then putting pads on really won't do anything to decrease his stock at that point. I don't know if I'm buying that he's really turned everything around, and I don't own him in any leagues... but I'm definitely keeping an eye on the situation, out of curiousity if nothing else.

 

[wannabee]

Broncos | Marshall receives praise

Published Tue Jun 13 11:07:00 a.m. ET 2006

(KFFL) Frank Schwab, of the Colorado Springs Gazette, reports Denver Broncos rookie WR Brandon Marshall is earning the respect of his teammates. "He's obviously going to take some time as a rookie at the receiver position," Denver Broncos QB Jake Plummer said. "But he's got all the tools right off and he's a really smart kid and he has great hands."