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Brandon Marshall's Take, (1 Viewer)
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Not witty, just stating the obvious! Jay will see how many weapons he had while in Denver as well.
For me and the team yes. However, we have heard many of the wrong things come out of locker rooms during similar situations dealing with losing star players.
TitusIII
Footballguy
If the Bears add Plax/Boldin, there isn't any drop off, imo...Hester is basically a clone of Royal, Olsen/Clark trumps Scheffler, and Forte is damn good RB. Time will tell, of course!Respect to Marshall, even though the guy needs to mature(just like Cutler), his future is still very bright.
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fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
Um, no.
identikit
Footballguy
Olsen/Clark < Scheffler/Graham.
Skino
Footballguy
This is a pretty big IF. And who would they give up for Boldin?
geoff8695
Footballguy
Agree 100%. Actually, I was very impressed with the way Marshall carried himself. I've never seen him interviewed before, and with all of the 'trouble' his young career has already seen, honestly I didn't expect him to display such maturity. Would Ocho Cinco or TO have been so composed? So he called Cutler a great QB and will miss him, but still expressed confidence in the organization and new coach, and he has already talked with Kyle Orton and pumped him up as a "winner" that he will be excited to work with going forward. This told us more about Marshall than Cutler IMOFreeBaGeL said:Sounds like he handled that pretty much exactly the way he should have to me
how in the world would the Bears have enough ammo to acquire Boldin? trade their 1st round picks from 2011 and 2012?TitusIII said:
TitusIII
Footballguy
Who knows, that is why I'm think Burress, if Angelo wants him, of course. I guess the Bears could throw Arizona some defensive talent, plus a plethora of draft picks, but even that may fall short compared to what other teams would offer AZ. As for Royal versus Hester, I'll be pretty shocked if their stats are not very similar in 2009. Orton missed him WIDE open deep at least 6+ times in 2008, which would make his 50/650/5 look much better. This is not an exaggeration, check the film for proof. I'm not saying Royal isn't a very impressive young WR, but Hester has the same type of skills that a QB like Cutler will take full advantage of. Come FF draft day, it will be a toss-up between these two...
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Tau837
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Are the Bears likely to add Plax/Boldin? I assume that's a long shot.What makes Hester a Royal clone? The fact they are similarly sized? Royal was a possession receiver as a rookie, who averaged less than 11 ypr... Hester is a deep threat. I think the odds of Hester ever having 90+ catches are basically nil. I don't really see the comparison here.Most importantly, Denver has arguably the best OL in the league. Chicago's is average at best, even with Pace.TitusIII said:
TitusIII
Footballguy
Is Royal a possesion WR? I always thought of him as a freak athlete like Hester, just from the you-tube clips I've seen of him. I really need to get league pass!
Tau837
Footballguy
What defensive talent can the Bears afford to give up that Arizona would want? Perhaps you aren't aware that Chicago's defense wasn't good last year.
Tau837
Footballguy
I'm not saying Royal can't go deep, but that's not how Denver used him last season.
TitusIII
Footballguy
Urlacher for one, he may not be the same LB, but he is still very good when healthy, which he wasn't last season. Bears fans may scoff at the idea, and the Cards brass may not want an aging vet, but his name/marketing value alone would help the Cards bottom line. The Bears D sucked mostly because Tommie Harris still hasn't recovered(who knows if he ever will) from his hamstring tear, and the decimation to the secondary/Mike Brown losing two steps, which is pretty important in Lovie's system. They still have more talent than most defenses in the league, just my opinion of course! But you're right, Boldin is probably not a realistic possibility. I'm done pimping the Bears. Marshall is a stud, and he seems like a cool cat who just needs to mature a little. I'd take him on the Bears any day of the week.
TitusIII
Footballguy
From an athletic stand-point, both are freaks, imo...that is all...TitusIII said:
mikel0254
Footballguy
Agree 100%. Actually, I was very impressed with the way Marshall carried himself. I've never seen him interviewed before, and with all of the 'trouble' his young career has already seen, honestly I didn't expect him to display such maturity. Would Ocho Cinco or TO have been so composed? So he called Cutler a great QB and will miss him, but still expressed confidence in the organization and new coach, and he has already talked with Kyle Orton and pumped him up as a "winner" that he will be excited to work with going forward. This told us more about Marshall than Cutler IMOFreeBaGeL said:Sounds like he handled that pretty much exactly the way he should have to me
I agree 100% as well
A swap of Urlacher for Boldin has been discussed in the past and it would make some sense given that he played his college ball at nearby New Mexico. The Cards would probably prefer a younger cheaper player though.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
He was a lot more articulate than I expected. I thought from his rep that he'd be more thuggish. He seems like he's got his head on a lot straighter than his off the field persona would indicate.t8knovr said:
Billy Ball Thorton
Footballguy
We just franchised Dansby. No way Cards want an aging Urlacher.. If he was a free agents the Cardinals would not pursue him so why trade Boldin for him.
I agree - he's learned Crash Davis' rules from "Bull Durham"Agree 100%. Actually, I was very impressed with the way Marshall carried himself. I've never seen him interviewed before, and with all of the 'trouble' his young career has already seen, honestly I didn't expect him to display such maturity. Would Ocho Cinco or TO have been so composed?FreeBaGeL said:Sounds like he handled that pretty much exactly the way he should have to me
So he called Cutler a great QB and will miss him, but still expressed confidence in the organization and new coach, and he has already talked with Kyle Orton and pumped him up as a "winner" that he will be excited to work with going forward.
This told us more about Marshall than Cutler IMO
As a Bears fan I would never want to see this. Urlacher though aging and not as wonderful as he once was is still the face of the team and a tremendous leader. I love Boldin and would love to have him as a Bear but not for Urlacher.Marshall's comments were exactly as they should be. It actually says something positive about him as a person to make the comments I think.
munchkin
Footballguy
Plaxico has all the ammo, maybe they should sign him first!
fissure man
Footballguy
IMO, Sheffler isn't even in the same ballpark as Olsen. He was Cutlers best friend and roommate. They had amazing chemistry, but I think the biggest loser in all this is Sheffler and Sheffler owners.Olsen is a freak, and should have a pretty significant year with Cutler at the helm. (Provided the bears can protect Cutler).
Sheff isn't near the talent Olsen is. Also while Olsen isn't a great blocker he is at least competent in that area whereas Sheffler couldn't block a 160 lb cornerback if he needed to.
blocks don't get you fantasy points, though. I do agree that Scheffler isn't quite the overall player that Olsen is, but as far as their receiving/TD scoring skills go, they are both quite solid. Orton heavily utilized both Olsen and Clark in Chicago, so I don't see a significant dropoff for Graham/Scheffler in the receiving department in the cards.
Banger
Footballguy
but they do get you on the field more. Teams know when Sheff is on the field it's a passing down.blocks don't get you fantasy points, though. I do agree that Scheffler isn't quite the overall player that Olsen is, but as far as their receiving/TD scoring skills go, they are both quite solid. Orton heavily utilized both Olsen and Clark in Chicago, so I don't see a significant dropoff for Graham/Scheffler in the receiving department in the cards.Sheff isn't near the talent Olsen is. Also while Olsen isn't a great blocker he is at least competent in that area whereas Sheffler couldn't block a 160 lb cornerback if he needed to.
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
No doubt that Marshall threw around a few cliches and said what he's "supposed to say", but Jay Cutler's inability to do the same is the reason he's a Bear right now. Who knew that Marshall had more leadership ability and character than Cutler?
If I'm a Bronco fan, this is music to my ears.
If I'm a Bronco fan, this is music to my ears.
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JamesTheScot
Footballguy
My thoughts exactly.Although I think it maybe indicates that McDaniels isn't losing the locker-room like some have suggested. Marshall went so far as to say that if players are disgruntled about losing Cutler, they need to snap out of it and focus on getting the team moving forward. Sounded more mature and more of a team leader than I expected. Of course, we'll have to see if it holds up if things get rough mid-season.On a different note...is Rich Eisen Cutler's girlfriend or something? Every time anything with Cutler comes up, no matter who (player or coach) defends the move, Eisen acts more hurt and defensive about it than Cutler does. Get off the soapbox already, Rich. Anyone notice how he kept digging and couldn't seem to understand how Marshall wasn't saying "Yes, Rich, there is dissension in the locker room and we are all flabbergasted that Coach traded Cutler".Agree 100%. Actually, I was very impressed with the way Marshall carried himself. I've never seen him interviewed before, and with all of the 'trouble' his young career has already seen, honestly I didn't expect him to display such maturity. Would Ocho Cinco or TO have been so composed? So he called Cutler a great QB and will miss him, but still expressed confidence in the organization and new coach, and he has already talked with Kyle Orton and pumped him up as a "winner" that he will be excited to work with going forward. This told us more about Marshall than Cutler IMOSounds like he handled that pretty much exactly the way he should have to me
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