Braylon Edwards owners: are you still starting him? (1 Viewer)

[azcards33]

just a couple of weeks ago this guy became a 'must start' and now all of a sudden he has become invisible in CLE's passing offense

are you guys still starting him every week and/or holding onto him in redrafts?

will he and Cle's passing offense turn things around and make this guy a solid option at WR again?

 

[s_ezy]

maybe a new offense coordinator will help....

 

[packersfan]

This is his last week in my starting lineup if he doesn't show something. If he doesn't have a big game against the Jets there may not be much hope left for him as a consistent starting option. As an Edwards owner I am viewing this game as a "Show me" game. It's a great matchup for him and he should deliver. If he doesn't, he won't get off my bench again anytime soon.

 

[Polyethylene Bag]

I just acquired him on the cheap and plugging him into the lineup this week against a soft Jets D. A new coach trying to turn this offense around has to get the ball in the hands of his playmakers, plain and simple. I think (hope) he finishes the year strong.

 

[Bri]

there's a 2-3 page thread on him

 

[Keepers]

Edwards is not a stud and consequently a must start. Have to play matchups with him and needless to say Denver was not a good matchup.

 

[ATC1]

Edwards is not a stud and consequently a must start. Have to play matchups with him and needless to say Denver was not a good matchup.

also, the wind was swirling. It really took away the deep ball. They tried to get him several times without success because of that defense and weather conditions. He should put up solid numbers against the Jets.

 

[chris1969]

Edwards is not a stud and consequently a must start. Have to play matchups with him and needless to say Denver was not a good matchup.

also, the wind was swirling. It really took away the deep ball. They tried to get him several times without success because of that defense and weather conditions. He should put up solid numbers against the Jets.

And you forgot Frye's concussion. He wasn't on target at all after that hit.

 

[packersfan]

I'd say the bloom's worn off this rose.

 

[Bri]

I'd say the bloom's worn off this rose.

I started he and reggie brown in one league this week

 

[packersfan]

I'd say the bloom's worn off this rose.

I started he and reggie brown in one league this week

This was his last shot for me. My league has very tight roster limits so I'll be dumping him this week since there are a few WRs (Henry, Holmes and maybe Michael Jenkins) who are available who I like more. I don't deny his talent but it's just not happening any more. He was barely involved in the offense today and his production the last three games has been nothing short of pathetic. Maybe he'll turn things around but given my league's roster set-up I can't wait for him any longer.

 

[walkwithme]

Man you have to be in a deep league or is seriously strapped in a bye week to be playing B. Edwards on a consistent basis. I mean he is a WR2 in a FF sense and is only as good as the QB and offensive line. I don't have enough confidence in C. Freye to start B. Edwards every week. I think KW2 is the no. 1 on the team and there offense doesn't seem to be capable of providing two reliable receivers from a FF perpespective.

 

[TitusIII]

Don't look into today's game, QB's can't throw in that type of wind...

 

[Bri]

Man you have to be in a deep league or is seriously strapped in a bye week to be playing B. Edwards on a consistent basis.

Half his games have been productive and the Champ DEN game's a gimme. 3 of 5 IMO.That's better than Moss, Moss, Chad Johnson, and plenty of other WRs this year. TOs 4 of 6, Harrison's 5 of 6, Boldin's 5 of 7, Fitz was 2 of 5. It's a week to week hobby

 

[-OZ-]

I just acquired him on the cheap and plugging him into the lineup this week against a soft Jets D. A new coach trying to turn this offense around has to get the ball in the hands of his playmakers, plain and simple. I think (hope) he finishes the year strong.

agreed, but he's still looking like a "matchup play", and a difficult one to judge some weeks. I'm probably benching him in favor of Lee Evans (Packers) and JWalker (Steelers), but it's a very close call.I do see Edwards finishing this year strong, and if his owners want to dump him, I'd certainly buy.

 

[packersfan]

I just acquired him on the cheap and plugging him into the lineup this week against a soft Jets D. A new coach trying to turn this offense around has to get the ball in the hands of his playmakers, plain and simple. I think (hope) he finishes the year strong.

agreed, but he's still looking like a "matchup play", and a difficult one to judge some weeks. I'm probably benching him in favor of Lee Evans (Packers) and JWalker (Steelers), but it's a very close call.

It shouldn't be. Walker's been very productive and Evans, prior to his last game, was on a strong roll as well. I can't imagine any league where Edwards should even be considered as a starter right now. He's been absolutely brutal for three straight games now. I can see hanging onto him and hoping for the best but he's not even a Top 50 WR right now.

 

[FFdork]

This was his last shot for me. My league has very tight roster limits so I'll be dumping him this week since there are a few WRs (Henry, Holmes and maybe Michael Jenkins) who are available who I like more. I don't deny his talent but it's just not happening any more. He was barely involved in the offense today and his production the last three games has been nothing short of pathetic. Maybe he'll turn things around but given my league's roster set-up I can't wait for him any longer.

Really? I'm as disappointed with Braylon's perfomance yesterday as the next guy, but I don't think I'm ready to dump him for the caliber of WRs you listed. I was tracking the game yesterday online (there were much more interesting games to watch) and, from what I saw, the Browns just pounded the ball against one of the leagues worst run defenses. That might be the only game this year where they will run that much. 3 bad games in a row is cause for concern, but the way he started the year suggests he will have better days too. He'll probably be up and down because his team sucks, but I'll continue to plug him in as one of my WR3s when the matchup dictates.

 

[packersfan]

This was his last shot for me. My league has very tight roster limits so I'll be dumping him this week since there are a few WRs (Henry, Holmes and maybe Michael Jenkins) who are available who I like more. I don't deny his talent but it's just not happening any more. He was barely involved in the offense today and his production the last three games has been nothing short of pathetic. Maybe he'll turn things around but given my league's roster set-up I can't wait for him any longer.

Really? I'm as disappointed with Braylon's perfomance yesterday as the next guy, but I don't think I'm ready to dump him for the caliber of WRs you listed. I was tracking the game yesterday online (there were much more interesting games to watch) and, from what I saw, the Browns just pounded the ball against one of the leagues worst run defenses. That might be the only game this year where they will run that much. 3 bad games in a row is cause for concern, but the way he started the year suggests he will have better days too. He'll probably be up and down because his team sucks, but I'll continue to plug him in as one of my WR3s when the matchup dictates.

All of the WRs I've mentioned have been much more productive in the last several games than Edwards (Henry obviously hasn't played recently but in his last three games he's been an absolute monster). I'm starting to like Holmes more and more and he's trending in the right direction. I'm not a huge Jenkins fan but it's getting more difficult to deny the impact Vick is starting to have throwing the ball. If that continues Jenkins will have WR3 value in my opinion. Like I said, I don't deny Edwards' talent. This isn't a case of me thinking he sucks. But I don't see things getting any better for them anytime soon and given the tight roster limits in my league if I want any of the WRs I mentioned above the only way I'll be able to get them is to drop Edwards. I still have a few days this week to think about it but I'm giving serious thought to making that move. Henry for sure would seem to be a strong upgrade over Edwards.

 

[packersfan]

I have to admit I'm a little surprised to see where Edwards is ranked on the Top 200 going forward. I realize that's pretty speculative and very much subject to change on a week-to-week basis but to see Edwards ranked where he is given how absolutely pathetic he's been for the past three weeks is pretty surprising to me. Here's his schedule the rest of the way:

Week 9: at San Diego

Week 10: at Atlanta

Week 11: vs. Pittsburgh

Week 12: vs. Cincinnati

Week 13: vs. Kansas City

Week 14: at Pittsburgh

Week 15: at Baltimore

Week 16: vs. Tampa Bay

Week 17: at Houston

That's not a great schedule. There are some good matchups (Weeks 10, 12, 13 and 17) but as we saw this past week, a good or even great matchup may not matter for Edwards. He had an outstanding matchup against the Jets and was worthless. I like the guy's talent but it's difficult for me to view him as someone who is a clear WR3 going forward which is where he's being ranked at the moment.

 

[billyjoe]

Has anyone seen him play live?

Has he lost his explosion due to the ACL?

He might be a great buy low in dynasty. I always thought he came back way too early.

 

[TheFanatic]

I'm giving the kid the start this week. After Droughns went off last week, I'm hoping that the Chargers will be stacking the box to stop the run and give BE lots of 1 on 1 coverage. Basically challenge the Browns to beat them through the air.

 

[rawdog]

I've heard this mentioned a few times with Javon Walker's ACL, that he will get even better as the season progresses, i.e. leaping ability, making cuts, etc. Could this be the case with Braylon? (not that he is going to produce at javon levels).

 

[Kuz]

I'm really down on Edwards.. other than the Baltimore game he basically hasn't done much.

I could see him having a few decent weeks this year but I surely wouldn't want to count on him

even as a #3 this week.. Thank god the league I have him in I don't have to start him..

I wouldn't think of starting him until he at least has another productive game..

 

[Bri]

I've heard this mentioned a few times with Javon Walker's ACL, that he will get even better as the season progresses, i.e. leaping ability, making cuts, etc. Could this be the case with Braylon? (not that he is going to produce at javon levels).

MaybeHe's "the man" now according to NFL Ds. He's gotta figure out how to get open when gets that attention. It's an expected step in his development.

 

[aposulli]

He WILL blow up this week.

(mark it down.)

 

[packersfan]

I'm really down on Edwards.. other than the Baltimore game he basically hasn't done much.I could see him having a few decent weeks this year but I surely wouldn't want to count on himeven as a #3 this week.. Thank god the league I have him in I don't have to start him..I wouldn't think of starting him until he at least has another productive game..

I agree with this. He's talented and he could very easily have some big games but I can't see how he should be viewed as a sure-fire WR3 going forward. He's been absolutely brutal the past three games. He ranks 99th in scoring the last three weeks. 99th. It's pretty understandable to see why people are down on him. Not only is he 99th but there are two other WRs on his own team who have done better in that span (Jurevicius and Cribbs). Like I said he's talented so just when you bury him he'll probably have another big game but I don't know how anybody can have any faith in him right now and I sure don't see how he can be ranked as a sure-fire WR3 going forward. At best he's a WR4 and I'd be real skittish about starting him in that role in a league that allowed you to start that many.

 

[TheFanatic]

He WILL blow up this week.(mark it down.)

[/ ]Ahhh crap....[ ]Now I gotta start someone else.....Why did you have to go and do that for?

 

[KevT]

I'd say the bloom's worn off this rose.

I started he and reggie brown in one league this week

Who else did you start?Seriously, it looked promising earlier in the year when Braylon was getting a ton of yardage. The only thing I was worried about was his catches, he was targeted alot but he had few catches.

 

[dcgangstas]

To me, it seems like Braylon Edwards is a talented WR that's ill-fitted for the offensive scheme that the Browns run.

Charlie Frye isn't exactly the strongest=armed QB, and his offensive line doesn't hold their blocks long enough for Edwards to run the deep patterns that he excels at. Even though Maurice Carthon's gone, the Browns still run that dink-and-dunk offense with a long of check-downs and short patterns. That type of offensive philosophy would benefit Kellen Winslow II a lot more than it would Edwards.

Nothing worse than talent wasted. The Browns have got to figure out ways to get Edwards the ball.

 

[-OZ-]

I just acquired him on the cheap and plugging him into the lineup this week against a soft Jets D. A new coach trying to turn this offense around has to get the ball in the hands of his playmakers, plain and simple. I think (hope) he finishes the year strong.

agreed, but he's still looking like a "matchup play", and a difficult one to judge some weeks. I'm probably benching him in favor of Lee Evans (Packers) and JWalker (Steelers), but it's a very close call.

It shouldn't be. Walker's been very productive and Evans, prior to his last game, was on a strong roll as well. I can't imagine any league where Edwards should even be considered as a starter right now. He's been absolutely brutal for three straight games now. I can see hanging onto him and hoping for the best but he's not even a Top 50 WR right now.

You're probably right, that he shouldn't be started ahead of the others, and he won't be until he picks it up, but I'm seeing some good weeks ahead. He will finish the year as a top 40 WR, maybe top 30 IMO (depending on format, less value in PPR leagues as he seems to be a big play guy)

 

[chris1969]

I have to admit I'm a little surprised to see where Edwards is ranked on the Top 200 going forward. I realize that's pretty speculative and very much subject to change on a week-to-week basis but to see Edwards ranked where he is given how absolutely pathetic he's been for the past three weeks is pretty surprising to me. Here's his schedule the rest of the way:Week 9: at San DiegoWeek 10: at AtlantaWeek 11: vs. PittsburghWeek 12: vs. CincinnatiWeek 13: vs. Kansas CityWeek 14: at PittsburghWeek 15: at BaltimoreWeek 16: vs. Tampa BayWeek 17: at HoustonThat's not a great schedule. There are some good matchups (Weeks 10, 12, 13 and 17) but as we saw this past week, a good or even great matchup may not matter for Edwards. He had an outstanding matchup against the Jets and was worthless. I like the guy's talent but it's difficult for me to view him as someone who is a clear WR3 going forward which is where he's being ranked at the moment.

I disagree, he's still gonna face some pretty good run defenses, thats when he's valuable! WHen they have to throw, they'll be throwing to him.

 

[packersfan]

I have to admit I'm a little surprised to see where Edwards is ranked on the Top 200 going forward. I realize that's pretty speculative and very much subject to change on a week-to-week basis but to see Edwards ranked where he is given how absolutely pathetic he's been for the past three weeks is pretty surprising to me. Here's his schedule the rest of the way:Week 9: at San DiegoWeek 10: at AtlantaWeek 11: vs. PittsburghWeek 12: vs. CincinnatiWeek 13: vs. Kansas CityWeek 14: at PittsburghWeek 15: at BaltimoreWeek 16: vs. Tampa BayWeek 17: at HoustonThat's not a great schedule. There are some good matchups (Weeks 10, 12, 13 and 17) but as we saw this past week, a good or even great matchup may not matter for Edwards. He had an outstanding matchup against the Jets and was worthless. I like the guy's talent but it's difficult for me to view him as someone who is a clear WR3 going forward which is where he's being ranked at the moment.

I disagree, he's still gonna face some pretty good run defenses, thats when he's valuable! WHen they have to throw, they'll be throwing to him.

Maybe, maybe not. The new coordinator seemed to prefer having the ball go to Winslow last week. Just one game or a sign of things to come?

 

[chris1969]

I have to admit I'm a little surprised to see where Edwards is ranked on the Top 200 going forward. I realize that's pretty speculative and very much subject to change on a week-to-week basis but to see Edwards ranked where he is given how absolutely pathetic he's been for the past three weeks is pretty surprising to me. Here's his schedule the rest of the way:Week 9: at San DiegoWeek 10: at AtlantaWeek 11: vs. PittsburghWeek 12: vs. CincinnatiWeek 13: vs. Kansas CityWeek 14: at PittsburghWeek 15: at BaltimoreWeek 16: vs. Tampa BayWeek 17: at HoustonThat's not a great schedule. There are some good matchups (Weeks 10, 12, 13 and 17) but as we saw this past week, a good or even great matchup may not matter for Edwards. He had an outstanding matchup against the Jets and was worthless. I like the guy's talent but it's difficult for me to view him as someone who is a clear WR3 going forward which is where he's being ranked at the moment.

I disagree, he's still gonna face some pretty good run defenses, thats when he's valuable! WHen they have to throw, they'll be throwing to him.

Maybe, maybe not. The new coordinator seemed to prefer having the ball go to Winslow last week. Just one game or a sign of things to come?

The dink and dunk stuff is fine when they have a lead, but when they are behind, they'll be forced to open it up.

 

[TwinTurbo]

The weather is a factor for Edwards in Cleveland as well. The last couple of games had very poor weather conditions for the passing game. His week 9 and 10 matchups in San Diego and Atlanta look a lot better.

 

[daveR]

Wasn't the weather, it was Champ Bailey. They didn't throw that way at all.

Braylon is wr1 in Cleve, but play the matchups.

 

[TwinTurbo]

Wasn't the weather, it was Champ Bailey. They didn't throw that way at all.Braylon is wr1 in Cleve, but play the matchups.

I agree Champ did well against Braylon in Week 7 game but the weather was also very poor. Cleveland had 149 passing yds and Denver had 209. It was an ugly game. Javon Walker had a decent day but most of the passing game was dink and dunk for both teams.Fast forward to Week 8 against the Jets and there was poor weather again with high winds. Jets had 108 yds passing and Cleveland had 141 yds passing. So that's 2 weeks in a row where the passing game for the Browns was under 150 total yds. I expect that total to increase significantly in the San Diego and Atlanta games.

 

[Bri]

I'm not starting him and having one of those he's gonna do well moments

 

[TheFanatic]

I'm not starting him and having one of those he's gonna do well moments

He did pretty well

 

[Bri]

I'm not starting him and having one of those he's gonna do well moments

He did pretty well

I went with Evans, but good to see a comeback(hopes) game for Braylon.

 

[pghrob]

Edwards has a great matchup v. my sorry Steelers secondary. the only concern is Frye's hand, otherwise Edwards should be good for 7 catches, 84 yards, and a TD.

 

[Biabreakable]

This offense is still one of the greenest collection of skill players in the league right now. With major injuries to thier Oline.. not sure why anyone would expect much from Browns players at this point. Winslow is the only bright spot as the Qb all too often is just trying to get the ball out of his hands before he gets creamed.

packersfan you might want to revaluate KC's corner backs if you think that will be a good matchup for Edwards.

 

[ATC1]

Edwards has a great matchup v. my sorry Steelers secondary. the only concern is Frye's hand, otherwise Edwards should be good for 7 catches, 84 yards, and a TD.

Frye's wrist injury is on the non-throwing hand, so I don't think it will affect his throwing.

 

[Bri]

Edwards has a great matchup v. my sorry Steelers secondary. the only concern is Frye's hand, otherwise Edwards should be good for 7 catches, 84 yards, and a TD.

This seems like a good week, let's hope he's staying predictable

 

[BGP]

The Browns brought in new faces to man the OL. All of them are better at run-blocking than pass-blocking. This line was constructed to run the football. The oddity is that they were giving up on the run so much to begin with. With OC Maurice Carthon gone, we've seen new OC Davidson refocus on the run. In two of their last three games, they've run more than they've passed.

I recall the 2002 Browns season. The Browns had a garbage OL that year. Butch Davis constantly harped that running the football was a state of mind more than anything else, and if you stick with it, it emerges. We'll Butch stuck with the run, and by the middle of that season the running game exploded with William Green.

I think the Browns should look to do the same thing here. This team should be able to learn to run the football - they just need to commit to it and with those reps get a lot better at it.

The problem right now is Droughns is a gametime decision. After 2002, the running game got derailed largely due to injuries and suspensions. So William Green never fulfilled that promise. Hopefully, that doesn't happen this time around.

 

[Righetti]

Braylon over Reggie Brown for the Silly Putty Sacks this week

 

[Bri]

The Browns brought in new faces to man the OL. All of them are better at run-blocking than pass-blocking. This line was constructed to run the football. The oddity is that they were giving up on the run so much to begin with. With OC Maurice Carthon gone, we've seen new OC Davidson refocus on the run. In two of their last three games, they've run more than they've passed. I recall the 2002 Browns season. The Browns had a garbage OL that year. Butch Davis constantly harped that running the football was a state of mind more than anything else, and if you stick with it, it emerges. We'll Butch stuck with the run, and by the middle of that season the running game exploded with William Green. I think the Browns should look to do the same thing here. This team should be able to learn to run the football - they just need to commit to it and with those reps get a lot better at it.The problem right now is Droughns is a gametime decision. After 2002, the running game got derailed largely due to injuries and suspensions. So William Green never fulfilled that promise. Hopefully, that doesn't happen this time around.

I don't disagree with Butch and the mindset thing. I mean you have to be able to run when the D knows you're going to run. Football becomes real basic at that point. You have to have a threat passing the ball. Only the best lines can run everydown in a ball control O like that. While I like the Browns grinders, they're not one of the best units. If/when Braylon does well, I'd bet they can run. Winslow lining up inside doesn't stretch the D as much initially as an outside threat like Braylon would. 8 men on the line, one can cover Winslow. 8 on the line, Edwards has a favorable matchup...hopefully. A good pass every now and again and they can run much easier. The Browns O looks very forced at times if not.