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Braylon Edwards (1 Viewer)

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Thoughts on Edwards??? He has been targeted 18 times in the last two weeks. If you go back to last year the 4 weeks previous to his injury he was targeted 7 times per game. Is he now a legit #2 WR?? What are your thoughts/projections on him going forward?

Edwards Remaining Schedule:

4 Sunday, Oct. 1 - 4:15 p.m. at Oakland Raiders

5 Sunday, Oct. 8 - 1:00 p.m. at Carolina Panthers

6 BYE

7 Sunday, Oct. 22 - 4:05 p.m. Denver Broncos

8 Sunday, Oct. 29 - 4:15 p.m. New York Jets

9 Sunday, Nov. 5 - 4:15 p.m. at San Diego Chargers

10 Sunday, Nov. 12 - 1:00 p.m. at Atlanta Falcons

11 Sunday, Nov. 19 - 1:00 p.m. Pittsburgh Steelers

12 Sunday, Nov. 26 - 1:00 p.m. Cincinnati Bengals

13 Sunday, Dec. 3 - 1:00 p.m. Kansas City Chiefs

14 Thursday, Dec. 7 - 8:00 p.m. at Pittsburgh Steelers

15 Sunday, Dec. 17 - 1:00 p.m. at Baltimore Ravens

16 Sunday, Dec. 24 - 1:00 p.m. Tampa Bay Buccaneers

17 Sunday, Dec. 31 - 1:00 p.m. at Houston Texans

 
I think it's too soon to call him a legit WR2 but I posted in another thread about Edwards that I thought by the end of the season he'd be no worse than a fringe WR2/WR3. He's clearly a strong WR3 in my opinion. He's getting the targets and the past two weeks he's converted. Were it not for a holding call in Week 1 and being stopped at the 1 in Week 2 he'd be a fantasy monster so far. I've been very happy with him and given how I expected him to be better in the second half of the season than the first I think what we're seeing now bodes very well for the remainder of the season as long as he can remain healthy. He's clearly talented and he's in a situation where's he needed and will get plenty of opportunities to succeed.

 
It seems his injury is truly behind him. I wouldn't be surprised to see him finish in the top 10 this year.

I admit though, I've only seen highlights as I don't get CLE games.

 
On a related note, does anyone think that Charlie Frye is reliable enough to be a consistent fantasy starter? He's averaging almost 20 fantasy points per game thus far, and has done so against better than average defenses.

 
I'd call him a legit #2 WR, with potential to finish as a #1.

He's following the path of Fitzgerald. Not to say he's on the same level just yet, but the potential is obvious. Any doubts were answered Sunday.

Re: Frye - I wouldn't feel comfortable starting him, but he may well finish top 12-15. The future of football in Ohio is bright. (and yes, this Michigan homer is jealous)

 
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sartre said:
It seems his injury is truly behind him. I wouldn't be surprised to see him finish in the top 10 this year. I admit though, I've only seen highlights as I don't get CLE games.
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His deep speed is clearly there. His long TD against the Ravens was a case where he just ran by the defender and Frye had the ball placed right in his hands (helluva play by both of them). He's also a top target when the Browns get in the Red Zone. He drew a pass interference penalty in the first half which led to a Frye TD run and then was targeted by Frye in the end zone when he threw his late-game INT. The pass was a terrible decision by Frye but it did demonstrate how the Brown want to take advantage of Edwards' size and athletic ability in the end zone.
 
-OZ- said:
I'd call him a legit #2 WR, with potential to finish as a #1.
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As an Edwards' owner I'm trying hard not to get too excited so I'm trying to refrain from saying something like this. :D But from a talent perspective there's no question he can become a top-flight NFL and fantasy WR. Maybe it doesn't happen this season but I see no reason to believe it won't happen at some point.
 
Horses Mouth said:
i'm firmly on the Edwards bandwagon. the guy is a playmaker. solid WR2 this year.
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I agree, but the only thing that somewhat holds back my optimism is that its the Browns. I have not seen any of their games but it seems as if they want the ball in Edwards hands, and Winslows hands.
 
Da Guru said:
Tough playoff schedule..use him and dump him.
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The Ravens wouldn't have been viewed as a good matchup by any means this past Sunday. How'd Edwards do?If you believe in him, I say keep him and start him every week regardless of the matchup. Given what he's shown all season long and especially against one of the best defenses in the league this past week I see no reason to worry about a future difficult matchup. He's going to get a lot of passes thrown his way and he's clearly very talented. Even on a bad team, talent + opportunity can reap some huge fantasy dividends.
 
Today, I was offered Matt Jones for Braylon Edwards. I'm really not sure which way I'm going to go. I do like that Edwards is more of "The Man" as far was WR's go in Cleveland while Jones seems to be splitting that title in Jacksonville.

 
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I am a Michigan fan and he is the best receiver I've ever seen at Michigan and they've had some good college WRs.

This guy adjusts to the ball in the air better than anyone I've ever seen besides Randy Moss and he positions himself extremely well on all his routes. He is a great jumper, he is smart, he's strong, he's fast, and he has great hands. So far in the pros I've seen him do a lot of the things he did at Michigan against NFL DBs. Watch his routes; he can take short patterns a long way because he deceives, shields, then takes great paths and angles after the catch.

I only have him in one of four leagues but I would have targeted him much higher if I was sure he would be completely healthy. I think he might be playing at about 85 to 90 percent right now after just having ACL surgery nine or ten months ago which says something. I think he is a 3 right now, will be a 2 by game 10, and a #1 as soon as the end of next year. Then he will be a #1 for a long time. He is one of the best talents I've ever seen and I've watched a whole hell of a lot of football over the past 25 years. :2cents:

 
Edwards is good #2 WR and I'd give him a good shot at top 10 by the end of the year. He's got talented WR's around him and Winslow at TE. The running game will be hurting until Droughns comes back unless one of the rookies steps up. Frye has terrific pocket presense and can buy time with his feet. So far I haven't seen that weak arm everyone was talking about in the draft. The key thing here is the Brown's O-line. If they can play every week like they did last week, Edwards is money. That was a top notch defense that was blitzing like crazy that they were playing against and the o-line gave Frye time to make the reads he needed to.

 
redman said:
On a related note, does anyone think that Charlie Frye is reliable enough to be a consistent fantasy starter? He's averaging almost 20 fantasy points per game thus far, and has done so against better than average defenses.
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I think nthat Frye will be a serviceable bye week QB/ 2nd starting QB in those formats I am guessing abomut 200yrds 1-2 TDs 1-2 picks maybe 40yrds russing and a few rush TDs. But back to the topic of this post having a top 5 QB is not a necessity to be a top 5 WR, not that I am saying BE will be top 5 but there is always a chance, save for a few breaks here or there he could of had 4 100 yrd games and 3 tds. Of course there are dozens of other players and situatins that can say the same thing, but a #3 overall pick coming back from injury does deserve a little more benefit of the doubt. (minus Charles Rodgers as the #2 overall pick, but it was a Millen pick so we should of known better.)
Da Guru said:
Tough playoff schedule..use him and dump him.
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Guru I respect your opinion in this forum but you are not thinking like a shark here!!
Da Guru said:
Tough playoff schedule..use him and TRADE dump him.
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footballguide1 said:
redman said:
On a related note, does anyone think that Charlie Frye is reliable enough to be a consistent fantasy starter? He's averaging almost 20 fantasy points per game thus far, and has done so against better than average defenses.
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I think nthat Frye will be a serviceable bye week QB/ 2nd starting QB in those formats I am guessing abomut 200yrds 1-2 TDs 1-2 picks maybe 40yrds russing and a few rush TDs. But back to the topic of this post having a top 5 QB is not a necessity to be a top 5 WR, not that I am saying BE will be top 5 but there is always a chance, save for a few breaks here or there he could of had 4 100 yrd games and 3 tds. Of course there are dozens of other players and situatins that can say the same thing, but a #3 overall pick coming back from injury does deserve a little more benefit of the doubt. (minus Charles Rodgers as the #2 overall pick, but it was a Millen pick so we should of known better.)
Da Guru said:
Tough playoff schedule..use him and dump him.
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Guru I respect your opinion in this forum but you are not thinking like a shark here!!
Da Guru said:
Tough playoff schedule..use him and TRADE dump him.
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I meant trade him..Bray has a couple of more good weeks..sell high on him. Chuckie Frye can`t keep it up..can he??
 
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I got Edwards extremely late in my 16 team re-draft league. Very happy so far. Actually he finally made it into my starting lineup last week (because Moss was on a bye), and now I have the delinma of actually starting him over Moss.

 
Braylon is trying his best to crack my starting lineup. I'm debating hard between him and Glenn this week. I probably will not decide until Sunday.

 
He is going to have his growing pains, as other teams begin to realize most of his ability has returned. I'm not saying you should deal him at this point, but last week was probably the high point for the season.

 
Top concern here is that Frye was sacked or hit like 30 times last week vs the Ravens. The pass-blocking just isn't there. If the offense keeps trying to be as aggressive as it was vs the Ravens, Frye will be on IR quick. Options are:

1. Frye goes on IR. No reliable backup. Offense tailspins.

2. Browns run lots of max protect. Offense struggles to move.

3. Frye does lots of one step drop and throws. Lots of balls batted at the LOS. Offense struggles.

4. Browns just committ to the run to get the pressure off Frye. The running game might develop but that won't help Frye/Winslow/Edwards.

 
How I picked up Edwards beats all of your guys storys......

I picked him off of the waiver wire yesterday morning :) So go Braylon kick some ### and be a legit #2 guy :)

 
Lets not forget that Antonio Bryant had over 1000 yards as the Browns #1 WR last year. I see Braylon getting nothing less.

 
BGP said:
Top concern here is that Frye was sacked or hit like 30 times last week vs the Ravens. The pass-blocking just isn't there. If the offense keeps trying to be as aggressive as it was vs the Ravens, Frye will be on IR quick. Options are:

1. Frye goes on IR. No reliable backup. Offense tailspins.

2. Browns run lots of max protect. Offense struggles to move.

3. Frye does lots of one step drop and throws. Lots of balls batted at the LOS. Offense struggles.

4. Browns just committ to the run to get the pressure off Frye. The running game might develop but that won't help Frye/Winslow/Edwards.
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They also wont be facing the Raven D every week.
 
Magnum said:
Today, I was offered Matt Jones for Braylon Edwards. I'm really not sure which way I'm going to go. I do like that Edwards is more of "The Man" as far was WR's go in Cleveland while Jones seems to be splitting that title in Jacksonville.
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Keep Braylon.
 
BGP said:
Top concern here is that Frye was sacked or hit like 30 times last week vs the Ravens. The pass-blocking just isn't there. If the offense keeps trying to be as aggressive as it was vs the Ravens, Frye will be on IR quick. Options are:1. Frye goes on IR. No reliable backup. Offense tailspins.2. Browns run lots of max protect. Offense struggles to move.3. Frye does lots of one step drop and throws. Lots of balls batted at the LOS. Offense struggles.4. Browns just committ to the run to get the pressure off Frye. The running game might develop but that won't help Frye/Winslow/Edwards.
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5. Coach your o-line and have them practice and get better.
 
The Scientist said:
:popcorn: No more opinions/projections?
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If you have him, he's probably your WR3 and be thankful. If you don't have him, it's probably going to cost you more to get him than you'd be comfortable giving up at this point. I posted a few weeks ago that I thought his numbers at the end of the season would likely land him as a fringe #2. You might be able to bump that up to a fringe #1. But I still think there's going to be a lot of inconsistency in getting to that final number. In keeper leagues, there are few WRs I like more. Talent + opportunity. That's all you can ask for.For the rest of this season, he's in an offense that is likely to struggle occasionally, and he can't be completely unaffected by that. The 60 yard TDs aren't going to come every week, and I still think there are going to be times when you look at the Browns' schedule and think, "I'd rather spend a day locked in a room naked with larry_boy than start Braylon this week."Maybe I'll turn out to be wrong.Maybe you would rather spend every day locked in a room naked with larry_boy. :shurg:
 
Buttmonkey said:
I got Edwards extremely late in my 16 team re-draft league. Very happy so far. Actually he finally made it into my starting lineup last week (because Moss was on a bye), and now I have the delinma of actually starting him over Moss.
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A passing of the torch of sorts.
 
Johnny Ice said:
Braylon is trying his best to crack my starting lineup. I'm debating hard between him and Glenn this week. I probably will not decide until Sunday.
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Tough call on that one if TO is out.
BoulderBob said:
He is going to have his growing pains, as other teams begin to realize most of his ability has returned. I'm not saying you should deal him at this point, but last week was probably the high point for the season.
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Do you watch football games or do you make your predictions with a Ouija board? What Browns receiver have the teams been concentrating on so far? Are you saying his high point of the season was against one of the best defenses in the NFL? You don't think he can repeat his performance against the Raiders? I'm sorry for being sarcastic, but I'm having a hard time finding any insight to your reasoning.
mjnoles1 said:
How I picked up Edwards beats all of your guys storys......I picked him off of the waiver wire yesterday morning :) So go Braylon kick some ### and be a legit #2 guy :)
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Me too! 1 guy waived him after week 2 and I put in a claim, it didn't go through until this week, but he's starting for me this week.
Assani Fisher said:
BGP said:
Top concern here is that Frye was sacked or hit like 30 times last week vs the Ravens. The pass-blocking just isn't there. If the offense keeps trying to be as aggressive as it was vs the Ravens, Frye will be on IR quick. Options are:1. Frye goes on IR. No reliable backup. Offense tailspins.2. Browns run lots of max protect. Offense struggles to move.3. Frye does lots of one step drop and throws. Lots of balls batted at the LOS. Offense struggles.4. Browns just committ to the run to get the pressure off Frye. The running game might develop but that won't help Frye/Winslow/Edwards.
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5. Coach your o-line and have them practice and get better.
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Agreed, the one on one blocking seems adequate, but we're getting killed on stunts. That's a line communication thing. That can be improved, but we need to keep the same players together for a while.
 
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i would pass on the Jones for Edwards deal.

I think he is a legit #2 and possible #1 next year based on frye's development. i had him cheap in a dynasty auction league and traded him for a higher priced boldin--- mainly b/c his playoff schedule. I am having some buyer's remorse cause in the future i think he will be a star.

i saw the balt-clev game. this is probably over analysis but once mcallister was beat he took edwards seriously in the seocnd half. he was targeted but i don't think edwards has more that a catch in the second half. so he can be shut down.

also joe J. is out so he when he returns i'm not sure if that is gonna hurt or help. droughns return should bring so balance to the offense so i think he should be started as a #2.

 
rotorooter said:
i think he should be started as a #2.
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Explain this to me. I've never really understood why people make references like this. Are there leagues where you have to designate in this manner for some sort of tiered points? "OK, Marvin Harrison is my #1 WR this week. Darrell Jackson is my #2 this week. Oh, no, wait, Jackson plays the Bears. Braylon Edwards is my #2 this week. Jackson will be my #3."Unless you're absolutely stacked at WR, if he's on your roster, he's likely one of the three WR you should be starting until he proves otherwise. Beyond that, you're just trying to pop zits on a flea's ###.
 
The Scientist said:
Im going to start him this week over Bryant
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I have this choice too, probably going with Edwards. I hate doing this though cause I feel like Im basing it on last week only, like Im "chasing" last week's #s if that makes sense. If Bryant goes off this week and Edwards doesnt I'll never forgive myself.
 
ceo3west said:
The Scientist said:
Im going to start him this week over Bryant
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I have this choice too, probably going with Edwards. I hate doing this though cause I feel like Im basing it on last week only, like Im "chasing" last week's #s if that makes sense. If Bryant goes off this week and Edwards doesnt I'll never forgive myself.
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I know exactly what you mean......Bryant had two 100 yard games and then went for 36 yards, I started him week 2 and week 3. Braylon had two 100 yard games ..... is he now going to go for a 30 yard performance?I think Edwards will be a good #2 WR this year because:1) Team will be playing from behind most the time2) Team can not run the ball very well (so far this year, but I don't feel that will change)3) Young QB - will be more likely to focus in on Edwards/Winslow than spread the ball around4) They target Edwards in the Red Zone due to his size5) Edwards has BIG PLAY ability which is always a plus
 
Bob Sacamano said:
rotorooter said:
i think he should be started as a #2.
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Explain this to me. I've never really understood why people make references like this. Are there leagues where you have to designate in this manner for some sort of tiered points? "OK, Marvin Harrison is my #1 WR this week. Darrell Jackson is my #2 this week. Oh, no, wait, Jackson plays the Bears. Braylon Edwards is my #2 this week. Jackson will be my #3."Unless you're absolutely stacked at WR, if he's on your roster, he's likely one of the three WR you should be starting until he proves otherwise. Beyond that, you're just trying to pop zits on a flea's ###.
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It's just a quick way of saying the guy is probably in the 12-24 range at the position. If you're relying on him as your best option routinely, you're hurting. If you've got 2 guys better than him you're ahead of the game. But on an "average" team, he'll probably be your 2nd best option most weeks. That's what it's implying
 
He's my 3. Hell he was my 4 until I made a trade. I'm thrilled thus far. never thought I'd have 2 Brown receivers on my roster (Edwards/Winslow). I am using him as a fill in until he steps up every week.

 
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