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Breaking Bad on AMC (6 Viewers)

This is the best show I have ever watched and it isn't even close.
After last season, I was afraid it'd be impossible to top and there would be some clunkers this time around, or that the story would start to wander even a a little bit. There hasn't been, and it hasn't. It's so hard to compare Breaking Bad, The Wire, Mad Men and the Sopranos, and maybe it's just because I'm watching yet another run of tremendous episodes, but BB has climbed to the top for me. The expansion of Gus's character and the performance Giancarlo Esposito is putting in has elevated the show again. Cranston, Paul, Banks and Esposito knock it out of the park every ####### week.
 
This is the best show I have ever watched and it isn't even close.
After last season, I was afraid it'd be impossible to top and there would be some clunkers this time around, or that the story would start to wander even a a little bit. There hasn't been, and it hasn't. It's so hard to compare Breaking Bad, The Wire, Mad Men and the Sopranos, and maybe it's just because I'm watching yet another run of tremendous episodes, but BB has climbed to the top for me. The expansion of Gus's character and the performance Giancarlo Esposito is putting in has elevated the show again. Cranston, Paul, Banks and Esposito knock it out of the park every ####### week.
don't forget Saul
 
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This is the best show I have ever watched and it isn't even close.
After last season, I was afraid it'd be impossible to top and there would be some clunkers this time around, or that the story would start to wander even a a little bit. There hasn't been, and it hasn't. It's so hard to compare Breaking Bad, The Wire, Mad Men and the Sopranos, and maybe it's just because I'm watching yet another run of tremendous episodes, but BB has climbed to the top for me. The expansion of Gus's character and the performance Giancarlo Esposito is putting in has elevated the show again. Cranston, Paul, Banks and Esposito knock it out of the park every ####### week.
BB is a great show and one of my all-time favorites, but I still have to rank the Wire at the top.
 
This is the best show I have ever watched and it isn't even close.
After last season, I was afraid it'd be impossible to top and there would be some clunkers this time around, or that the story would start to wander even a a little bit. There hasn't been, and it hasn't. It's so hard to compare Breaking Bad, The Wire, Mad Men and the Sopranos, and maybe it's just because I'm watching yet another run of tremendous episodes, but BB has climbed to the top for me. The expansion of Gus's character and the performance Giancarlo Esposito is putting in has elevated the show again. Cranston, Paul, Banks and Esposito knock it out of the park every ####### week.
BB is a great show and one of my all-time favorites, but I still have to rank the Wire at the top.
I might get ripped a bit but The Shield still is the tops for me. No show has ever had me watching as closely and with as much interest in the main character as that show. It never had a bad season and the show only got stronger the last few seasons.I have The Shield at 1, followed by Breaking Bad, The Wire, Rome and Seinfeld/Curb
 
This is the best show I have ever watched and it isn't even close.
After last season, I was afraid it'd be impossible to top and there would be some clunkers this time around, or that the story would start to wander even a a little bit. There hasn't been, and it hasn't. It's so hard to compare Breaking Bad, The Wire, Mad Men and the Sopranos, and maybe it's just because I'm watching yet another run of tremendous episodes, but BB has climbed to the top for me. The expansion of Gus's character and the performance Giancarlo Esposito is putting in has elevated the show again. Cranston, Paul, Banks and Esposito knock it out of the park every ####### week.
BB passed The Wire for me this season. Not that it effects my rankings but the fact that you can recommend BB to anyone knowing they'll love it should count for something. With The Wire you can see how some wouldn't get into it.
 
'NYRAGE said:
This is the best show I have ever watched and it isn't even close.
After last season, I was afraid it'd be impossible to top and there would be some clunkers this time around, or that the story would start to wander even a a little bit. There hasn't been, and it hasn't. It's so hard to compare Breaking Bad, The Wire, Mad Men and the Sopranos, and maybe it's just because I'm watching yet another run of tremendous episodes, but BB has climbed to the top for me. The expansion of Gus's character and the performance Giancarlo Esposito is putting in has elevated the show again. Cranston, Paul, Banks and Esposito knock it out of the park every ####### week.
BB is a great show and one of my all-time favorites, but I still have to rank the Wire at the top.
If you rated every aspect of each show across the board and evaluated each show's importance, The Wire is the "best" show ever made. It's hard to imagine a show coming along anytime soon that could top it. For me, for pure entertainment value, BB has risen above it slightly. I couldn't say it's better than The Wire. I could only say I've never enjoyed watching a show more than BB.
 
'NYRAGE said:
This is the best show I have ever watched and it isn't even close.
After last season, I was afraid it'd be impossible to top and there would be some clunkers this time around, or that the story would start to wander even a a little bit. There hasn't been, and it hasn't. It's so hard to compare Breaking Bad, The Wire, Mad Men and the Sopranos, and maybe it's just because I'm watching yet another run of tremendous episodes, but BB has climbed to the top for me. The expansion of Gus's character and the performance Giancarlo Esposito is putting in has elevated the show again. Cranston, Paul, Banks and Esposito knock it out of the park every ####### week.
BB is a great show and one of my all-time favorites, but I still have to rank the Wire at the top.
If you rated every aspect of each show across the board and evaluated each show's importance, The Wire is the "best" show ever made. It's hard to imagine a show coming along anytime soon that could top it. For me, for pure entertainment value, BB has risen above it slightly. I couldn't say it's better than The Wire. I could only say I've never enjoyed watching a show more than BB.
No, it's not.
 
'NYRAGE said:
This is the best show I have ever watched and it isn't even close.
After last season, I was afraid it'd be impossible to top and there would be some clunkers this time around, or that the story would start to wander even a a little bit. There hasn't been, and it hasn't. It's so hard to compare Breaking Bad, The Wire, Mad Men and the Sopranos, and maybe it's just because I'm watching yet another run of tremendous episodes, but BB has climbed to the top for me. The expansion of Gus's character and the performance Giancarlo Esposito is putting in has elevated the show again. Cranston, Paul, Banks and Esposito knock it out of the park every ####### week.
BB is a great show and one of my all-time favorites, but I still have to rank the Wire at the top.
If you rated every aspect of each show across the board and evaluated each show's importance, The Wire is the "best" show ever made. It's hard to imagine a show coming along anytime soon that could top it. For me, for pure entertainment value, BB has risen above it slightly. I couldn't say it's better than The Wire. I could only say I've never enjoyed watching a show more than BB.
No, it's not.
Care to share?
 
'NYRAGE said:
This is the best show I have ever watched and it isn't even close.
After last season, I was afraid it'd be impossible to top and there would be some clunkers this time around, or that the story would start to wander even a a little bit. There hasn't been, and it hasn't. It's so hard to compare Breaking Bad, The Wire, Mad Men and the Sopranos, and maybe it's just because I'm watching yet another run of tremendous episodes, but BB has climbed to the top for me. The expansion of Gus's character and the performance Giancarlo Esposito is putting in has elevated the show again. Cranston, Paul, Banks and Esposito knock it out of the park every ####### week.
BB is a great show and one of my all-time favorites, but I still have to rank the Wire at the top.
If you rated every aspect of each show across the board and evaluated each show's importance, The Wire is the "best" show ever made. It's hard to imagine a show coming along anytime soon that could top it. For me, for pure entertainment value, BB has risen above it slightly. I couldn't say it's better than The Wire. I could only say I've never enjoyed watching a show more than BB.
No, it's not.
Care to share?
I could list off 20 shows that are better, but what's the point? They are all my opinion, and I would present them that way. What I wouldn't do is say
The Wire is the "best" show ever made
, nor would I bring in obtuse and immeasurable "facts" such as a show's "importance".
 
'NYRAGE said:
This is the best show I have ever watched and it isn't even close.
After last season, I was afraid it'd be impossible to top and there would be some clunkers this time around, or that the story would start to wander even a a little bit. There hasn't been, and it hasn't. It's so hard to compare Breaking Bad, The Wire, Mad Men and the Sopranos, and maybe it's just because I'm watching yet another run of tremendous episodes, but BB has climbed to the top for me. The expansion of Gus's character and the performance Giancarlo Esposito is putting in has elevated the show again. Cranston, Paul, Banks and Esposito knock it out of the park every ####### week.
BB is a great show and one of my all-time favorites, but I still have to rank the Wire at the top.
If you rated every aspect of each show across the board and evaluated each show's importance, The Wire is the "best" show ever made. It's hard to imagine a show coming along anytime soon that could top it. For me, for pure entertainment value, BB has risen above it slightly. I couldn't say it's better than The Wire. I could only say I've never enjoyed watching a show more than BB.
No, it's not.
Care to share?
I could list off 20 shows that are better, but what's the point? They are all my opinion, and I would present them that way. What I wouldn't do is say
The Wire is the "best" show ever made
, nor would I bring in obtuse and immeasurable "facts" such as a show's "importance".
Oh.Then when you typed "No it's not", as though it were a fact, you meant to type "In my opinion, no it's not". For the benefit of everyone, let's both try to make sure the way we present our opinions is done properly.

 
'NYRAGE said:
This is the best show I have ever watched and it isn't even close.
After last season, I was afraid it'd be impossible to top and there would be some clunkers this time around, or that the story would start to wander even a a little bit. There hasn't been, and it hasn't. It's so hard to compare Breaking Bad, The Wire, Mad Men and the Sopranos, and maybe it's just because I'm watching yet another run of tremendous episodes, but BB has climbed to the top for me. The expansion of Gus's character and the performance Giancarlo Esposito is putting in has elevated the show again. Cranston, Paul, Banks and Esposito knock it out of the park every ####### week.
BB is a great show and one of my all-time favorites, but I still have to rank the Wire at the top.
If you rated every aspect of each show across the board and evaluated each show's importance, The Wire is the "best" show ever made. It's hard to imagine a show coming along anytime soon that could top it. For me, for pure entertainment value, BB has risen above it slightly. I couldn't say it's better than The Wire. I could only say I've never enjoyed watching a show more than BB.
No, it's not.
Care to share?
I could list off 20 shows that are better, but what's the point? They are all my opinion, and I would present them that way. What I wouldn't do is say
The Wire is the "best" show ever made
, nor would I bring in obtuse and immeasurable "facts" such as a show's "importance".
Oh.Then when you typed "No it's not", as though it were a fact, you meant to type "In my opinion, no it's not". For the benefit of everyone, let's both try to make sure the way we present our opinions is done properly.
Guy,I'm the one who pointed out it was an opinion.

HTH

 
'NYRAGE said:
This is the best show I have ever watched and it isn't even close.
After last season, I was afraid it'd be impossible to top and there would be some clunkers this time around, or that the story would start to wander even a a little bit. There hasn't been, and it hasn't. It's so hard to compare Breaking Bad, The Wire, Mad Men and the Sopranos, and maybe it's just because I'm watching yet another run of tremendous episodes, but BB has climbed to the top for me. The expansion of Gus's character and the performance Giancarlo Esposito is putting in has elevated the show again. Cranston, Paul, Banks and Esposito knock it out of the park every ####### week.
BB is a great show and one of my all-time favorites, but I still have to rank the Wire at the top.
If you rated every aspect of each show across the board and evaluated each show's importance, The Wire is the "best" show ever made. It's hard to imagine a show coming along anytime soon that could top it. For me, for pure entertainment value, BB has risen above it slightly. I couldn't say it's better than The Wire. I could only say I've never enjoyed watching a show more than BB.
How can it be the show you've enjoyed the most and not be the best?
 
Just started watching The Wire last night. Going to see what all the buzz was about.
:thumbup: Just go with the whole pager thing. It's tough watching a show from almost 10 years ago and seeing everyone using a technoology that, even 10 years ago, was out-dated. Simon even admitted back then it was a stretch for 2002, but such an important piece to Ed Burns' experiences, which were from the 80's. So it will seem really dated at first, but as the series goes on, the technology the good/bad guys use catches up.
 
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'wildbill said:
'NYRAGE said:
This is the best show I have ever watched and it isn't even close.
After last season, I was afraid it'd be impossible to top and there would be some clunkers this time around, or that the story would start to wander even a a little bit. There hasn't been, and it hasn't. It's so hard to compare Breaking Bad, The Wire, Mad Men and the Sopranos, and maybe it's just because I'm watching yet another run of tremendous episodes, but BB has climbed to the top for me. The expansion of Gus's character and the performance Giancarlo Esposito is putting in has elevated the show again. Cranston, Paul, Banks and Esposito knock it out of the park every ####### week.
BB is a great show and one of my all-time favorites, but I still have to rank the Wire at the top.
If you rated every aspect of each show across the board and evaluated each show's importance, The Wire is the "best" show ever made. It's hard to imagine a show coming along anytime soon that could top it. For me, for pure entertainment value, BB has risen above it slightly. I couldn't say it's better than The Wire. I could only say I've never enjoyed watching a show more than BB.
How can it be the show you've enjoyed the most and not be the best?
The Shawshank Redemption is my favorite movie but I don't think it's the best movie ever made by any means. What appeals to me and makes something entertaining relies on it being well-made but also my personal taste. Do you think your favorite song and movie is the best song and movie ever made?
 
Wonder if things are going to get sticky with Skylar's ex-boss and Walt is going eliminate him. Perhaps, that is the point that Gilligan alludes to as far as Walt going completely dark.Just don't know where this show is going. Terrific.Doesn't Jesse know once he shows the cartel how to make the perfect blue that he is totally disposable at that point? Maybe he won't be able to show them as he fears making Walt safe for the time being.Maybe Jesse gets in hot water down there with the cartel and somehow Walt saves his hide bringing them back together.
I've been saying this in regards to Walt going completely Scarface might be killing his wife. Could Walt kill his wife then pin everything regarding IRS stuff on her? He is great at playing the clueless card.
he wouldn't do that because then, if his cancer is back and he is on borrowed time, who's going to take care of the baby? that was supposedly his reasoning for doing all this in the first place, was to take care of the family after he's gone
 
Wonder if things are going to get sticky with Skylar's ex-boss and Walt is going eliminate him. Perhaps, that is the point that Gilligan alludes to as far as Walt going completely dark.Just don't know where this show is going. Terrific.Doesn't Jesse know once he shows the cartel how to make the perfect blue that he is totally disposable at that point? Maybe he won't be able to show them as he fears making Walt safe for the time being.Maybe Jesse gets in hot water down there with the cartel and somehow Walt saves his hide bringing them back together.
I've been saying this in regards to Walt going completely Scarface might be killing his wife. Could Walt kill his wife then pin everything regarding IRS stuff on her? He is great at playing the clueless card.
he wouldn't do that because then, if his cancer is back and he is on borrowed time, who's going to take care of the baby? that was supposedly his reasoning for doing all this in the first place, was to take care of the family after he's gone
That's what he told himself at the beginning but as his wife put it to him last episode, just quit and the car wash alone can provide for the family.
 
Wonder if things are going to get sticky with Skylar's ex-boss and Walt is going eliminate him. Perhaps, that is the point that Gilligan alludes to as far as Walt going completely dark.Just don't know where this show is going. Terrific.Doesn't Jesse know once he shows the cartel how to make the perfect blue that he is totally disposable at that point? Maybe he won't be able to show them as he fears making Walt safe for the time being.Maybe Jesse gets in hot water down there with the cartel and somehow Walt saves his hide bringing them back together.
I've been saying this in regards to Walt going completely Scarface might be killing his wife. Could Walt kill his wife then pin everything regarding IRS stuff on her? He is great at playing the clueless card.
he wouldn't do that because then, if his cancer is back and he is on borrowed time, who's going to take care of the baby? that was supposedly his reasoning for doing all this in the first place, was to take care of the family after he's gone
That's what he told himself at the beginning but as his wife put it to him last episode, just quit and the car wash alone can provide for the family.
but if he kills her and then the cancer kills him, that leaves the children...Flynn can't run the car wash and take care of a baby sister :shrug:
 
'NYRAGE said:
This is the best show I have ever watched and it isn't even close.
After last season, I was afraid it'd be impossible to top and there would be some clunkers this time around, or that the story would start to wander even a a little bit. There hasn't been, and it hasn't. It's so hard to compare Breaking Bad, The Wire, Mad Men and the Sopranos, and maybe it's just because I'm watching yet another run of tremendous episodes, but BB has climbed to the top for me. The expansion of Gus's character and the performance Giancarlo Esposito is putting in has elevated the show again. Cranston, Paul, Banks and Esposito knock it out of the park every ####### week.
BB is a great show and one of my all-time favorites, but I still have to rank the Wire at the top.
I agree.
 
crazy episode.

I wonder what Gus' plan would have been if he didn't share the tequila :shrug:

Assuming Flynn will somehow let it slip to Hank that Walt called him Jessie...just my thought there, but I guess that will come back into play at some point

 
Sepinwall:

It's funny: "Breaking Bad" is a show about a chemist, who, near the start of the series, told his students that chemistry is the study of “growth, then decay, then transformation." And for a very long time, it seemed that the lives of Walter White and Jesse Pinkman were constantly shifting between those three states. But the dynamic between the two of them - both their relationship and the way they came across to the audience - seemed a bit less in flux. There was a notable transformation between the start of the series (when Walt seemed the sympathetic suburban dad, and Jesse the skeevy idiot) and early in the second season (when Walt started to embrace his role as Heisenberg and became an overbearing bully, while Jesse started to become the one we felt bad for), and that's more or less how the show has treated them in the years since.

The fight at the end of last week's episode blew up their relationship but good. And in the wake of that, "Salud" suggests that their respective roles might be reversing once again.

The more apparent shift comes from Jesse, who does one hell of a Mr. White impression for all the chemists in the Mexican equivalent of the Super Lab. He didn't have Walt to coach him, but he's spent the better part of a year (in the show's timeline) studying this guy, seeing how he treats his inferiors (which in Walt's eyes is everyone), how he carries himself and the rest, and he pulls it off beautifully. And while it's a performance to save both his own life and that of Gus and Mike, when the violence starts after Gus murders Don Eladio and most of his capos, Jesse joins in the fight and reacts without thinking to the sight of Mike being wounded, turning and quickly emptying a clip into the offending gunman. (Those first-person shooter games definitely came in handy.) In the past, Jesse avoided having to kill people, and struggled mightily with both the act of murdering Gale and the aftermath. Here, it's an instinct, just as it's been for Walt when he's become Heisenberg in the past. Jesse lights up a cartel gunman, pulls the injured Mike into the car and peels out of Eladio's compound, playing the badass hero for others in the way Walt has for him in the past.(*)

(*) And given both the schism with Walt last week the way Gus and Mike fight for him here, and the fact that Jesse saves them both when he could easily kill them or leave them to die, for the moment I don't think there's any question about where his loyalties lie. As with all things "Breaking Bad," the situation remains fluid, but right now Jesse seems to be on Team Gus & Mike.

Walt, on the other hand, spends the episode trying to heal from the physical and emotional smackdown Jesse laid on him at the end of "Bug," and there are suggestions that he might finally be realizing that he's disappeared far too deep into the role of Heisenberg, and that it might be better for everyone if he gets out of it.

Of course, much of this regret is fueled by painkillers and booze, and as we saw last season in "Fly," narcotics have a way of loosening both Walt's tongue and his sense of guilt. He whimpers to Walter Jr. about how sorry he is - in an acting moment that would seem astonishing if we hadn't been watching Bryan Cranston in this role for the last four years - and his tears and pain are so genuine that it's clearly not just part of his cover story about gambling. He may be conveniently exploiting his emotions to sell the story (and again be an awful parent), but in that moment, he feels terrible about everything he's done to his surrogate son (whom he confuses with his real son as Walter Jr. tucks him in), and possibly about everything he's done as Heisenberg, period.

Of course, in the sober light of the next day, he tries to back away from what he's already begun to view as a moment of weakness, but Walter Jr. won't let him. Walt delivers a long monologue about his one memory of his father - and it's a piece of backstory that explains quite a bit about Walter White's pride and fear of being seen as weak, dying slowly in a hospital, being cared for, etc. - and explains that he doesn't want Walter Jr. to view him that way. But in Walter Jr's eyes, the crying Walt is much closer to the dad he grew up knowing than the secretive, angry, edgy troublemaker that he's gotten a glimpse of this past year.

We go back and forth a lot in discussing this show about which version of the lead is the real man: Walter White or Heisenberg? Walter Jr. wants to believe it's the former; Walter Sr. the latter. Walt has seemed on an inexorable path towards becoming Heisenberg 24/7, and he could very easily still get there. (Both Jesse and Walter Jr. have shamed him in different ways over the last two weeks, but Walt's default mode is generally to rebel against those kinds of feelings.) But as Jesse gets deeper into the drug game himself, and more confident and less apologetic about the bad things he has to do to survive, wouldn't it be awfully interesting to see the two men forced back together with their roles very different from even a few weeks ago?

Either way, this was another fantastic episode. Season 4 is on a real roll as we head into these last 3 episodes. Damn.

Some other thoughts:

• For all the times that Jesse and Walt have plotted to poison someone with ricin, it's Gus who actually succeeds in solving a problem through poison. I wondered at first about the pills he was taking right before Don Eladio came out, but either it was an antidote in the event he had to take the stuff, or simply something that would make it easier for him to vomit it out later. And, just as in the dressing/undressing sequences from "Box Cutter," I love watching the precision of Gustavo Fring, who is neat and machine-like even when he's preparing to make himself puke up some poison in the guest toilet of his archenemy. So Gus both gets his revenge and, presumably, throws the cartel into so much disarray that they'll leave him alone for a good long while. Last week he got to emulate the Terminator with the way he walked out into the sniper's field of fire, not even flinching at the bullets, while here he pulls a Westley from "The Princess Bride" and pretends to be much more hearty and able-bodied than he actually is to first fool Don Eladio, and then to intimidate anyone in the hacienda who's still thinking of coming at them. Third incredible climactic sequence in a row this season, starting with that great shot of Gus standing over the same pool where his life changed forever 25 years before, now a very different man but one with a long memory.

• I was much less a fan of the Skyler/Ted storyline. I know it's a cliched dig to compare any bit of bad TV writing to "Three's Company," but in this case, this literally was a "Three's Company" plot: there was an episode where Janet and Terri want to secretly give Jack money to help him get out of debt, and pretend that he's won a radio contest, only for him to spend the cash on a new leather coat. There could be an interesting payoff now that Skyler has come out and told Ted that it was her money - albeit not where/how she got it - but those scenes were definitely the least compelling this week.

• Good to see Carlo Rota (Morris O'Brian from "24") as the snooty cartel scientist. Rota's one of those actors (like Lou Diamond Phillips or Tony Shalhoub) who gets treated as variably ethnic by casting directors.

• Other than the plot convenience of the messages playing loudly throughout the house even as they're being recorded, why are Walt and Skyler still using answering machines instead of voicemail?

• Lots of talk about various car features in this episode. In fact, if Chrysler hadn't discontinued the PT Cruiser last year, I would take Skyler's scene in the driveway with Walter Jr. as product integration. Instead, both father and son are now driving cars that aren't produced anymore.
 
Fantastic episode.

I called the poising thing too, but still great execution. I told my buddy he is going to poisin him Princess Bride style. "Never mess with a Chilean when death is on the line!"

Walt has been trying to get to Gus for a bout a month and Gus finally gets Elado after 20 years.

Jesse was great.

They are going to have to off the finicial ##### bag. Cool to see Skylar's own slippery slope into doom though. She should have never helped that guy cook his books.

 
Looks like first 3 seasons are on Netflix now. Didn't see them there before this week.
Sweet. You're right they most definitely were not on streaming as recently as two weeks ago when I tried. I was going to definitely cancel Netflix with the pricing change since the stuff available streaming has been pretty poor IMO, at least when it comes to new stuff, but this may let me keep it another month. Amazon has it but for whatever reason isn't included in Prime. (I've been a subscriber since they launched it because of the shipping, Amazon Prime Video is a nice bonus and in many cases had close to NFLX support).Also just noticed that Mad Men is up there too, which I'm pretty sure wasn't before - NFLX must have cut a deal with AMC recently.
 
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Great episode. I think it was easy to see that, or something like it, coming when they first showed gift. At some level, I wondered if it was ricin, and maybe something that Jesse brought to the table. I'm assuming it wasn't since it happened a lot faster than Walt/Jesse had discussed previously.

What did Gus take? Not something to force him to throw up or anything, I'm guessing, since we saw him use his finger. "Antidote"? Wouldn't he have just puked it up too?

 
Quick question which is driving me crazy - who played the lead chemist? He was a character in something I remember watching recently, but I just can't place him. IMDB doesn't list him on the episode and neither does the Breaking Bad site.

I'm thinking it was network, and I don't watch much network programming... so thinking either maybe 24 or Flash Forward?

 
Quick question which is driving me crazy - who played the lead chemist? He was a character in something I remember watching recently, but I just can't place him. IMDB doesn't list him on the episode and neither does the Breaking Bad site.

I'm thinking it was network, and I don't watch much network programming... so thinking either maybe 24 or Flash Forward?
The hag's boyfriend on 24.
 
Quick question which is driving me crazy - who played the lead chemist? He was a character in something I remember watching recently, but I just can't place him. IMDB doesn't list him on the episode and neither does the Breaking Bad site.

I'm thinking it was network, and I don't watch much network programming... so thinking either maybe 24 or Flash Forward?
The hag's boyfriend on 24.
Riiiiiight. Thanks. It was driving me insane... I knew I recognized him from somewhere.God, was she annoying. And God, doesn't it highlight how bad that show was in comparison... haha.

 
Wow, that was something. Fantastic ending to the episode. Is was worth the wait and the WW/Flynn interaction.

Loved Jessie stepping up in the lab and fighting at the end. Awesome! :thumbup:

 
Love how Gus was worried about wrinkling his jacket before he gagged himself.

What if Don Eladio didn't share with his capos? Guess that's what Mike was referring too. "We either walk out together or not at all."

 
Great episode. Again.
Muy Bueno.How. Cool. Was. That!Started off with WAY too much Flynn... meandered along for a bit. Then POW! Mass poisoning.
I thought Mitte did a good job with the time he got on screen this week. I don't want to see that much of Flynn every week, but he is a big part of Walt's life, and his motivation to break bad. IMHO, Flynn has to find out about at least some of what his dad has done over the past year. This series is full of conflicts, and that's one that's been simmering for four seasons now.
 
So, something to think about.

Jessie (and Gus) now know that Walt isn't necessary to cook the meth. What does that prompt Jessie do to with respect to saving Gus/Mike? If he does get them back safe and sound, what does that prompt Gus to do? He doesn't have the cartel to worry about anymore, but he also doesn't have to pay Walt and Jessie now.

 
So, something to think about.Jessie (and Gus) now know that Walt isn't necessary to cook the meth. What does that prompt Jessie do to with respect to saving Gus/Mike? If he does get them back safe and sound, what does that prompt Gus to do? He doesn't have the cartel to worry about anymore, but he also doesn't have to pay Walt and Jessie now.
That's what I said to my wife at the end of the episode.............Walt is very expendable now.
 
So, something to think about.

Jessie (and Gus) now know that Walt isn't necessary to cook the meth. What does that prompt Jessie do to with respect to saving Gus/Mike? If he does get them back safe and sound, what does that prompt Gus to do? He doesn't have the cartel to worry about anymore, but he also doesn't have to pay Walt and Jessie now.
That's what I said to my wife at the end of the episode.............Walt is very expendable now.
This is the take home from this episode - well that and Skylar is stupid for giving that guy $600,000.
 
So, something to think about.Jessie (and Gus) now know that Walt isn't necessary to cook the meth. What does that prompt Jessie do to with respect to saving Gus/Mike? If he does get them back safe and sound, what does that prompt Gus to do? He doesn't have the cartel to worry about anymore, but he also doesn't have to pay Walt and Jessie now.
That's what I said to my wife at the end of the episode.............Walt is very expendable now.
Wasn't Jesse's meth still 2% less grade than Walt's meth? Gus is a perfectionist and wants the purest out there which I believe still comes from Walt's cooking. If you were Gus you also know that Jesse isn't someone you can completely trust since he has booze/drug issues. Very looking forward to last 3 episodes and it's going to totally blow to have to wait for the final season (which I guess they will break up into two more seasons)
 

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