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Wasn't Jesse's meth still 2% less grade than Walt's meth?
That's what I thought at first; that it wasn't high enough.
If Gus didn't care about the quality of the product Walt would have been dead a long time ago. Even Jesse knows he can't produce the level that Walt can.Definitely looking forward to see how all of this plays out.
 
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So, something to think about.

Jessie (and Gus) now know that Walt isn't necessary to cook the meth. What does that prompt Jessie do to with respect to saving Gus/Mike? If he does get them back safe and sound, what does that prompt Gus to do? He doesn't have the cartel to worry about anymore, but he also doesn't have to pay Walt and Jessie now.
That's what I said to my wife at the end of the episode.............Walt is very expendable now.
This is the take home from this episode - well that and Skylar is stupid for giving that guy $600,000.
The Skyler storylines are very boring, imo. I'm sure they are setting up some good stuff, but unless she's on with Saul, I feel like fast forwarding through the scene.

 
So, something to think about.

Jessie (and Gus) now know that Walt isn't necessary to cook the meth. What does that prompt Jessie do to with respect to saving Gus/Mike? If he does get them back safe and sound, what does that prompt Gus to do? He doesn't have the cartel to worry about anymore, but he also doesn't have to pay Walt and Jessie now.
That's what I said to my wife at the end of the episode.............Walt is very expendable now.
This is the take home from this episode - well that and Skylar is stupid for giving that guy $600,000.
The Skyler storylines are very boring, imo. I'm sure they are setting up some good stuff, but unless she's on with Saul, I feel like fast forwarding through the scene.
Wonder if Walt will ever find out about his wife banging her boss or not. Certainly if he finds out his wife gave this man 600k this can't end well for her or her boss.
 
So, something to think about.

Jessie (and Gus) now know that Walt isn't necessary to cook the meth. What does that prompt Jessie do to with respect to saving Gus/Mike? If he does get them back safe and sound, what does that prompt Gus to do? He doesn't have the cartel to worry about anymore, but he also doesn't have to pay Walt and Jessie now.
That's what I said to my wife at the end of the episode.............Walt is very expendable now.
This is the take home from this episode - well that and Skylar is stupid for giving that guy $600,000.
The Skyler storylines are very boring, imo. I'm sure they are setting up some good stuff, but unless she's on with Saul, I feel like fast forwarding through the scene.
Wonder if Walt will ever find out about his wife banging her boss or not. Certainly if he finds out his wife gave this man 600k this can't end well for her or her boss.
Skyler already told Walt she slept with her old boss.

 
'TexanFan02 said:
So, something to think about.

Jessie (and Gus) now know that Walt isn't necessary to cook the meth. What does that prompt Jessie do to with respect to saving Gus/Mike? If he does get them back safe and sound, what does that prompt Gus to do? He doesn't have the cartel to worry about anymore, but he also doesn't have to pay Walt and Jessie now.
That's what I said to my wife at the end of the episode.............Walt is very expendable now.
This is the take home from this episode - well that and Skylar is stupid for giving that guy $600,000.
The Skyler storylines are very boring, imo. I'm sure they are setting up some good stuff, but unless she's on with Saul, I feel like fast forwarding through the scene.
Wonder if Walt will ever find out about his wife banging her boss or not. Certainly if he finds out his wife gave this man 600k this can't end well for her or her boss.
Wait til Ted comes back for more...
Ted's dead baby...Ted's dead(I know it's Zed)

 
So, something to think about.

Jessie (and Gus) now know that Walt isn't necessary to cook the meth. What does that prompt Jessie do to with respect to saving Gus/Mike? If he does get them back safe and sound, what does that prompt Gus to do? He doesn't have the cartel to worry about anymore, but he also doesn't have to pay Walt and Jessie now.
That's what I said to my wife at the end of the episode.............Walt is very expendable now.
This is the take home from this episode - well that and Skylar is stupid for giving that guy $600,000.
The Skyler storylines are very boring, imo. I'm sure they are setting up some good stuff, but unless she's on with Saul, I feel like fast forwarding through the scene.
Wonder if Walt will ever find out about his wife banging her boss or not. Certainly if he finds out his wife gave this man 600k this can't end well for her or her boss.
Skyler already told Walt she slept with her old boss.
Then it's even worse for Sklyer if Walt finds out. It's already clear he doesn't care about Sklyer and to find out your wife who screwed someone also gave them 600k could be the nail on the coffin for her and her boss. I can't see Walt buying the "I needed to help him because of the IRS and it wouldn't blow back on us" story.
 
Then it's even worse for Sklyer if Walt finds out. It's already clear he doesn't care about Sklyer and to find out your wife who screwed someone also gave them 600k could be the nail on the coffin for her and her boss. I can't see Walt buying the "I needed to help him because of the IRS and it wouldn't blow back on us" story.
I think Walt would whack the guy, instead of pay him.Look for Sklyer's old boss to try and get more money from her - I think then Walt will step in and settle it providing of course that Sklyer even tells him that she did give him money. She might try to hide it from Walt, because this shows her being not responsible and "protecting this family" - something that she in the past has chastised Walt for.
 
Great episode. Again.
Muy Bueno.How. Cool. Was. That!Started off with WAY too much Flynn... meandered along for a bit. Then POW! Mass poisoning.
I thought Mitte did a good job with the time he got on screen this week. I don't want to see that much of Flynn every week, but he is a big part of Walt's life, and his motivation to break bad. IMHO, Flynn has to find out about at least some of what his dad has done over the past year. This series is full of conflicts, and that's one that's been simmering for four seasons now.
He wasn't bad....but I was hoping that as he was backing out of the driveway after taking care of Walt....a big Semi would run into his car, exploding it into a giant fireball.
 
I love Mike. He's awesome. He just calmly walks up behind that dude and strangles him.

Loved how he almost smirked when Jessie was taking charge in the lab.

 
1. I don't think there was any doubt in Gus' mind that the tequila would be shared.

2. From a Challenger to a PT Cruiser? LOL

 
I don't buy Ted being THIS much of a buffoon. He's a (formerly) successful businessman. He seems to have a good head on his shoulders. He's smooth enough to bang a (formerly) hot Skyler. And now we are to believe that he won't pay his tax obligation after (GASP!) just about the exact amount he owes falls into his lap?

 
I don't buy Ted being THIS much of a buffoon. He's a (formerly) successful businessman. He seems to have a good head on his shoulders. He's smooth enough to bang a (formerly) hot Skyler. And now we are to believe that he won't pay his tax obligation after (GASP!) just about the exact amount he owes falls into his lap?
Didn't he take over his father's business though? It seemed like he was living off his father's reputation and never had the business savvy to keep it successful.
 
The cook was at 96. Walt is at 99. He's not going anywhere.
Yeah, Gale hit 96 and that wasn't enough to kill Walt.Plus, Jesse showed he's just Walt's counterfeit when he couldn't synthesize the phenylacetic acid. He just grabs the barrel with the bee on it.
 
The cook was at 96. Walt is at 99. He's not going anywhere.
Yeah, Gale hit 96 and that wasn't enough to kill Walt.Plus, Jesse showed he's just Walt's counterfeit when he couldn't synthesize the phenylacetic acid. He just grabs the barrel with the bee on it.
Actually 96 was enough to kill Walt. Gale actually requested Walt not Gus. Then when Walt proved to be a liability they were going to kill him, until Jessie killed Gale.
 
So, something to think about.Jessie (and Gus) now know that Walt isn't necessary to cook the meth. What does that prompt Jessie do to with respect to saving Gus/Mike? If he does get them back safe and sound, what does that prompt Gus to do? He doesn't have the cartel to worry about anymore, but he also doesn't have to pay Walt and Jessie now.
i dunno about not needing walt when he said he didn't know how to make the acid and the cartel chemist said even a sophomore chemistry student could make it.. it had to raise questions in Gus' mind. jesse even said something like "i just grab barrel B and pour it in". he's a line cook not a chef.maybe that's all that is required in this case but if something goes wrong/some piece of the recipe can't be acquired.. what does jesse do? just not cook for a while?
 
The cook was at 96. Walt is at 99. He's not going anywhere.
Yeah, Gale hit 96 and that wasn't enough to kill Walt.Plus, Jesse showed he's just Walt's counterfeit when he couldn't synthesize the phenylacetic acid. He just grabs the barrel with the bee on it.
Actually 96 was enough to kill Walt. Gale actually requested Walt not Gus. Then when Walt proved to be a liability they were going to kill him, until Jessie killed Gale.
this sounds right. Gale was so obsessed with it's perfection he wanted Walt to keep cooking.

 
'Raider Nation said:
I don't buy Ted being THIS much of a buffoon. He's a (formerly) successful businessman. He seems to have a good head on his shoulders. He's smooth enough to bang a (formerly) hot Skyler. And now we are to believe that he won't pay his tax obligation after (GASP!) just about the exact amount he owes falls into his lap?
Yeah....at first, I thought that he realized that Saul was giving him a *wink*wink* story about Aunt Birgit's inheritance to cover up that a silent partner (Skylar) was coming into the business and providing financial relief. To me, that would have more plausible than this dope actually thinking he inherited money.
 
'The Gator said:
'toadstool said:
'Dvorak said:
'Abraham said:
The cook was at 96. Walt is at 99. He's not going anywhere.
Yeah, Gale hit 96 and that wasn't enough to kill Walt.Plus, Jesse showed he's just Walt's counterfeit when he couldn't synthesize the phenylacetic acid. He just grabs the barrel with the bee on it.
Actually 96 was enough to kill Walt. Gale actually requested Walt not Gus. Then when Walt proved to be a liability they were going to kill him, until Jessie killed Gale.
this sounds right. Gale was so obsessed with it's perfection he wanted Walt to keep cooking.
:goodposting: Remember 96 was good enough for Gus when it came from Gale, the extra 3% is what set Walt's brew apart; but that extra really did not matter to Gus "96 is good enough".

 
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'The Gator said:
'toadstool said:
'Dvorak said:
'Abraham said:
The cook was at 96. Walt is at 99. He's not going anywhere.
Yeah, Gale hit 96 and that wasn't enough to kill Walt.Plus, Jesse showed he's just Walt's counterfeit when he couldn't synthesize the phenylacetic acid. He just grabs the barrel with the bee on it.
Actually 96 was enough to kill Walt. Gale actually requested Walt not Gus. Then when Walt proved to be a liability they were going to kill him, until Jessie killed Gale.
this sounds right. Gale was so obsessed with it's perfection he wanted Walt to keep cooking.
Gale wasn't the one obsessed with perfection. He was just realistic. It's Gus who has to have the best. Gale said "you have the best equipment money can buy, you clearly want the best, and his is better".
 
'mr. furley said:
'Walton Goggins said:
Wasn't Jesse's meth still 2% less grade than Walt's meth?
same thing i said to my wife. even gale's was just slightly lower than Walt's i thought and that wasn't good enough.can someone confirm the numbers they showed in past episodes?
I think Colon is right it's a 96 to 99 which as Gale mentioned to Gus that's a HUGE difference.Jesse is like someone who watches the best chef in the country and can copy whatever the chef makes but anything changes then that person is #### out of luck. Walt was the one who said they needed to break into the warehouse to get the chemical instead of the chemical in sudafed. Basically ANYTHING goes wrong Walt can figure it out but Jesse won't be able to. I would find it hard to believe that now that Gus knows his product is unique and impossible to duplicate he'll eliminate Walt just cause he wants him out of his hair. When Gus is able to kill the head of a cartel dealing with Walt is nothing.
 
'The Gator said:
'toadstool said:
'Dvorak said:
'Abraham said:
The cook was at 96. Walt is at 99. He's not going anywhere.
Yeah, Gale hit 96 and that wasn't enough to kill Walt.Plus, Jesse showed he's just Walt's counterfeit when he couldn't synthesize the phenylacetic acid. He just grabs the barrel with the bee on it.
Actually 96 was enough to kill Walt. Gale actually requested Walt not Gus. Then when Walt proved to be a liability they were going to kill him, until Jessie killed Gale.
this sounds right. Gale was so obsessed with it's perfection he wanted Walt to keep cooking.
:goodposting: Remember 96 was good enough for Gus when it came from Gale, the extra 3% is what set Walt's brew apart; but that extra really did not matter to Gus "96 is good enough".
Why on Earth would Gus want to eliminate Walt? He's NO threat to him. You kill the head of a cartel dealing with Walt doesn't even come close. Plus Gus knows that while Jesse has some positive qualities he could easily slip back into drugs or do something stupid. When you make the best product in the country and if you are smart (like Gus clearly is) the only way you kill off Walt is self defense or you know for a fact that Walt is about to rat you out.
 
'Abraham said:
The cook was at 96. Walt is at 99. He's not going anywhere.
In the flashback that opened the season premier, Gale said that he could produce meth that was 96% pure, but that Walt could produce meth that was 99% pure. Walt's meth was so pure he'd need a special instrument to measure just how far beyond 99% it went. It was Gale who convinced Gus that the 3% difference was, as he put it, tremendous.Jesse can use Walt's methods to produce the same quality meth that Gale was producing, as long as nothing goes wrong. And there's no guarantee that he could do it consistently. Gus and Mike didn't show it while in the Mexican super lab, but I'm sure they were concerned until the results came back.Gus would love to replace Walt with someone else, but it won't be Jesse.
 
I have to give a :thumbup: to Walt Jr for last night's episode. he takes a beating on the boards, and isn't a great actor, but in last night's episode they did a good job of making him a sympathetic character.

 
'mr. furley said:
'Tiger Fan said:
So, something to think about.Jessie (and Gus) now know that Walt isn't necessary to cook the meth. What does that prompt Jessie do to with respect to saving Gus/Mike? If he does get them back safe and sound, what does that prompt Gus to do? He doesn't have the cartel to worry about anymore, but he also doesn't have to pay Walt and Jessie now.
i dunno about not needing walt when he said he didn't know how to make the acid and the cartel chemist said even a sophomore chemistry student could make it.. it had to raise questions in Gus' mind. jesse even said something like "i just grab barrel B and pour it in". he's a line cook not a chef.maybe that's all that is required in this case but if something goes wrong/some piece of the recipe can't be acquired.. what does jesse do? just not cook for a while?
I remember a scene from an earlier season where Jesse cooks on his own and has a discussion about it with Walt in the Toyota. Walt was not happy, but it seemed like Jesse knew his stuff. (more then just following directions/recipe)
 
'The Gator said:
'toadstool said:
'Dvorak said:
'Abraham said:
The cook was at 96. Walt is at 99. He's not going anywhere.
Yeah, Gale hit 96 and that wasn't enough to kill Walt.Plus, Jesse showed he's just Walt's counterfeit when he couldn't synthesize the phenylacetic acid. He just grabs the barrel with the bee on it.
Actually 96 was enough to kill Walt. Gale actually requested Walt not Gus. Then when Walt proved to be a liability they were going to kill him, until Jessie killed Gale.
this sounds right. Gale was so obsessed with it's perfection he wanted Walt to keep cooking.
:goodposting: Remember 96 was good enough for Gus when it came from Gale, the extra 3% is what set Walt's brew apart; but that extra really did not matter to Gus "96 is good enough".
Why on Earth would Gus want to eliminate Walt? He's NO threat to him. You kill the head of a cartel dealing with Walt doesn't even come close. Plus Gus knows that while Jesse has some positive qualities he could easily slip back into drugs or do something stupid. When you make the best product in the country and if you are smart (like Gus clearly is) the only way you kill off Walt is self defense or you know for a fact that Walt is about to rat you out.
Gus wanted Walt dead just a few weeks ago, Walt even came to his house one night and Mike (or someone else) called him and told him to "Go Home".
 
'Walton Goggins said:
'whoknew said:
'Flying Spaghetti Monster said:
'Tiger Fan said:
So, something to think about.

Jessie (and Gus) now know that Walt isn't necessary to cook the meth. What does that prompt Jessie do to with respect to saving Gus/Mike? If he does get them back safe and sound, what does that prompt Gus to do? He doesn't have the cartel to worry about anymore, but he also doesn't have to pay Walt and Jessie now.
That's what I said to my wife at the end of the episode.............Walt is very expendable now.
This is the take home from this episode - well that and Skylar is stupid for giving that guy $600,000.
The Skyler storylines are very boring, imo. I'm sure they are setting up some good stuff, but unless she's on with Saul, I feel like fast forwarding through the scene.
Wonder if Walt will ever find out about his wife banging her boss or not. Certainly if he finds out his wife gave this man 600k this can't end well for her or her boss.
Between the 600K She gave to Ted and her insistence on the car wash which was another cool 800K. Skyler sure doesn't seem to have a problem spending Walt's stash
 
'The Gator said:
'toadstool said:
'Dvorak said:
'Abraham said:
The cook was at 96. Walt is at 99. He's not going anywhere.
Yeah, Gale hit 96 and that wasn't enough to kill Walt.Plus, Jesse showed he's just Walt's counterfeit when he couldn't synthesize the phenylacetic acid. He just grabs the barrel with the bee on it.
Actually 96 was enough to kill Walt. Gale actually requested Walt not Gus. Then when Walt proved to be a liability they were going to kill him, until Jessie killed Gale.
this sounds right. Gale was so obsessed with it's perfection he wanted Walt to keep cooking.
:goodposting: Remember 96 was good enough for Gus when it came from Gale, the extra 3% is what set Walt's brew apart; but that extra really did not matter to Gus "96 is good enough".
Why on Earth would Gus want to eliminate Walt? He's NO threat to him. You kill the head of a cartel dealing with Walt doesn't even come close. Plus Gus knows that while Jesse has some positive qualities he could easily slip back into drugs or do something stupid. When you make the best product in the country and if you are smart (like Gus clearly is) the only way you kill off Walt is self defense or you know for a fact that Walt is about to rat you out.
Because Walt's ego has led him to believe he's more valuable to the organization than even Gus....while Gus's ego doesn't want anyone to think that.
 
'Walton Goggins said:
'whoknew said:
'Flying Spaghetti Monster said:
'Tiger Fan said:
So, something to think about.

Jessie (and Gus) now know that Walt isn't necessary to cook the meth. What does that prompt Jessie do to with respect to saving Gus/Mike? If he does get them back safe and sound, what does that prompt Gus to do? He doesn't have the cartel to worry about anymore, but he also doesn't have to pay Walt and Jessie now.
That's what I said to my wife at the end of the episode.............Walt is very expendable now.
This is the take home from this episode - well that and Skylar is stupid for giving that guy $600,000.
The Skyler storylines are very boring, imo. I'm sure they are setting up some good stuff, but unless she's on with Saul, I feel like fast forwarding through the scene.
Wonder if Walt will ever find out about his wife banging her boss or not. Certainly if he finds out his wife gave this man 600k this can't end well for her or her boss.
One of the better lines of the show..."I F------ Ted."

 
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I saw that poisoning coming, but now it's Jesse's time to finish off Mike and Gus.
Forgot about that for a minute. Poisoning was telegraphed a bit, but still played out nicely on the show.I just can't see jesse doing it. Now that he has all the quality bonding time with gus and mike. If he does it would have to be the moment that jesse evolves into scarface, not walt.
 
With the cartel wiped out, Gus's attention is going to fall back on Hank more than Walt. Without any screen time this week you can bet Hank is going to get into some #### next week.

Jesse is firmly with Gus and Mike now, but I don't think he'll ever completely turn his back on Walt. Jesse and Walt will kiss and make up before something crazy happens in the finale.

 
Gus wanted Walt dead just a few weeks ago, Walt even came to his house one night and Mike (or someone else) called him and told him to "Go Home".
If Gus wanted Walt dead - or rather, thought he was expendable - he would have been dead already.
Not until he has a replacement cook.
Always thought this was a flaw in the show. It's great that you make super quality meth, but are junkies demanding it? Seems like they could have done more on this end. I do understand that the writers probably don't want to deal with the end-users too much outside of Jesse/support groups.
 
Gus wanted Walt dead just a few weeks ago, Walt even came to his house one night and Mike (or someone else) called him and told him to "Go Home".
If Gus wanted Walt dead - or rather, thought he was expendable - he would have been dead already.
Not until he has a replacement cook.
That's my point - Gus does not view Walt as expendable right now.Even though Gus said 96% is "good enough", the conversation with Gale demonstrated that it's not. Gus wants only the best. Remember the big sit down when asking Gale if he was ready? And the similar conversation with Jesse?

If 96% was really good enough, Walt would have been dead a long time ago. It may well be good enough for the junkies, but it's not good enough for Gus. Thus, Walt is alive.

 
Gus wanted Walt dead just a few weeks ago, Walt even came to his house one night and Mike (or someone else) called him and told him to "Go Home".
If Gus wanted Walt dead - or rather, thought he was expendable - he would have been dead already.
Not until he has a replacement cook.
That's my point - Gus does not view Walt as expendable right now.Even though Gus said 96% is "good enough", the conversation with Gale demonstrated that it's not. Gus wants only the best. Remember the big sit down when asking Gale if he was ready? And the similar conversation with Jesse?

If 96% was really good enough, Walt would have been dead a long time ago. It may well be good enough for the junkies, but it's not good enough for Gus. Thus, Walt is alive.
I guess 96% was good enough to prove to the Cartel that Jessie was better than whatever chemist they had down there at the times :shrug:
 
'Walton Goggins said:
'whoknew said:
'Flying Spaghetti Monster said:
'Tiger Fan said:
So, something to think about.

Jessie (and Gus) now know that Walt isn't necessary to cook the meth. What does that prompt Jessie do to with respect to saving Gus/Mike? If he does get them back safe and sound, what does that prompt Gus to do? He doesn't have the cartel to worry about anymore, but he also doesn't have to pay Walt and Jessie now.
That's what I said to my wife at the end of the episode.............Walt is very expendable now.
This is the take home from this episode - well that and Skylar is stupid for giving that guy $600,000.
The Skyler storylines are very boring, imo. I'm sure they are setting up some good stuff, but unless she's on with Saul, I feel like fast forwarding through the scene.
Wonder if Walt will ever find out about his wife banging her boss or not. Certainly if he finds out his wife gave this man 600k this can't end well for her or her boss.
Between the 600K She gave to Ted and her insistence on the car wash which was another cool 800K. Skyler sure doesn't seem to have a problem spending Walt's stash
Don't forget about that badass PT Cruiser
 

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