**Breaking News** (1 Viewer)

[BlueOnion]

Very dissapointing if true.  I hope they prosecute Al and Alma's Charter Boats just as much as they are also equal (if not more so) in the blame here.

Dumbest post ever. Yea, blame Al and Alma's for loser Viking behavior......

Again, I don't want to blame Al and Alma's for the Vikings' behavior. I just think they have a responsibility to protect their employees.

 

[BlueOnion]

Boy, I think Culpepper and Williams will get released from their 3 counts and I think Smoot and McKinnie might be guilty of of 1 account each, the Indecent Conduct - Open or Gross Lewdness play toy and oral sex respectively. However, these acts being performed on a private boat within a closed facility, even these counts may not stick.

It really seems like a exploitation job here, but regardless I still think the 4 players should be released.

I agree, this kind of stuff happens almost every week in the nfl or in sports in general, its just a matter of getting caught...this should come to no surprise to anyone

In my opinion it was really no big deal and unfortunate that they got caught. However, they got caught and it made it's way into the media maintrain. The local media made a big deal out of it. Whether the media was leading on the public or the public was leading the media really doesn't matter at this point; it is a lot of bad PR (justified or not) and the organization should make amends.

You are an absolute fount of mis-information...from getting the Sherrif's name wrong (Pat McGowan) to being unable to differentiate between civil and criminal charges (these are criminal), to not knowing that Lake Minnetonka water conservation district was formed because there are many communities that surround the lake, so no one community has juristriction, the district has juristriction over the lake. And the Hennipen county sherrifs department is the enforcing agency.Please just quit specualting until you actually KNOW something...you dog the media for doing exactly the same thing that you've been doing all along.

Marc Levin and Cristo have much more experience with Law then I do. I don't know what is wrong with creating dialogue with these individuals and asking them questions.

 

[BlueOnion]

Please just quit specualting until you actually KNOW something...you dog the media for doing exactly the same thing that you've been doing all along.

The big difference between myself and what the media does is the media's speculation causes damage which is irreversible. I did a lot of my speculating to deter public prosecution before the facts came to fruition.

 

[BigJim®]

You're overreacting, IMO -

Most likely. But I would like to think the Vikings have a zero tolerance policy on things like this.

I don't get you. Never have. One of your personalities argues until you are blue in the face that Al and Almas are responsible for everything and another personality argues that people don't deserve livelihoods for being horny in no way related to their jobs. You should try taking a middleground approach occasionally.HTH

Middleground? :yuck:My argument was never that Al and Almas is completely responsible, only that if employees are questioning the integrity of their work environment Al and Alma's should share in the blame.

My other argument is although I don't think the Viking players did anything wrong as civilians in the State of Minnesota, they are subject to public perception which can implicitly indict the Vikings.

No, I understand what your arguments are. They just don't happen to be based on any law/standard (as to A&A culpability), or generally accepted moral stance (as to releasing a pro athlete over a misdeamenor offense which may not even be punishable). Your opinions strike me as being "what that 1% lunatic fringe portion of the population thinks" and worthy of very little consideration for that reason. Feel free to call me wrong when these star players are retained by the Vikes and ticket sales suffer a resulting impact. Myself, I don't believe a single season ticket holder cancels over this. They wouldn't even be ticket holders at this point; that personality type would have cancelled already after the arctic blast event, which incidently had zero impact on selling out the dome.

 

[Screwball]

You're overreacting, IMO -

Most likely. But I would like to think the Vikings have a zero tolerance policy on things like this.

I don't get you. Never have. One of your personalities argues until you are blue in the face that Al and Almas are responsible for everything and another personality argues that people don't deserve livelihoods for being horny in no way related to their jobs. You should try taking a middleground approach occasionally.HTH

Middleground? :yuck:My argument was never that Al and Almas is completely responsible, only that if employees are questioning the integrity of their work environment Al and Alma's should share in the blame.

My other argument is although I don't think the Viking players did anything wrong as civilians in the State of Minnesota, they are subject to public perception which can implicitly indict the Vikings.

No, I understand what your arguments are. They just don't happen to be based on any law/standard (as to A&A culpability), or generally accepted moral stance (as to releasing a pro athlete over a misdeamenor offense which may not even be punishable). Your opinions strike me as being "what that 1% lunatic fringe portion of the population thinks" and worthy of very little consideration for that reason. Feel free to call me wrong when these star players are retained by the Vikes and ticket sales suffer a resulting impact. Myself, I don't believe a single season ticket holder cancels over this. They wouldn't even be ticket holders at this point; that personality type would have cancelled already after the arctic blast event, which incidently had zero impact on selling out the dome.