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29/38/286 3TDs 1 INT

 

[BeaverCleaver]

 

[Kleck.]

Impressive game today. Wynn looked pretty good too.

 

[thayman]

Good for the Packers. I'm rooting for them to take that division this year. If the Bears keep playing the way they have been it won't be too hard.

 

[Big Score]

Wynn looked pretty good too.

The two TD's were certainly nice, but...

10 carries for 50 yards with a long of 38yards gained on each carry in order5300-56-1-15385 for 0 or less5 for gains

 

[Beergogglz]

What, his line from last game down?

 

[BroadwayG]

It's because I wore his jersey today, tucked into my jorts.

 

[Scruff Mcgruff]

Not to rain on your parade. But as a big Giants fan, let's be real their secondary had something to do with Favre's success today.

 

[H.K.]

Congrats to Favre on becoming the All-time winningest QB in the NFL.

Unlike some record holders, Favre is a champion and winner, not some stat guy.

He's already the league leader in completions (on fewer attempts than the #2 guy btw), and needs 4 more TD passes to hold the all-time record for that category.

Impossible not to consider him the best QB of all time, maybe Montana could make an argument, but that's about it.

 

[FavreCo]

FAVRE!!!

 

[Beergogglz]

Congrats to Favre on becoming the All-time winningest QB in the NFL.

Unlike some record holders, Favre is a champion and winner, not some stat guy.

He's already the league leader in completions (on fewer attempts than the #2 guy btw), and needs 4 more TD passes to hold the all-time record for that category.

Impossible not to consider him the best QB of all time, maybe Montana could make an argument, but that's about it.

 

[meanjoegreen]

Not to rain on your parade. But as a big Giants fan, let's be real their secondary had something to do with Favre's success today.

Who cares, they are still 2-0.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

The three time MVP may be the come back player of the year. After all, with so many actually considering him dead and done his accomplishments thus far this year are amazing.

 

[Tough As Nails]

Congrats to Favre on becoming the All-time winningest QB in the NFL.

Unlike some record holders, Favre is a champion and winner, not some stat guy.

He's already the league leader in completions (on fewer attempts than the #2 guy btw), and needs 4 more TD passes to hold the all-time record for that category.



Impossible not to consider him the best QB of all time, maybe Montana could make an argument, but that's about it.

Ron Jaworski, who knows a few things about QBs, put Favre at #7 in his interview this morning.

 

[BLOX]

I'd like to point out to the Favre haters that both of his INTs this year hit his receivers in the hands.

It's too bad as they were both inside opponents' territory.

 

[BroadwayG]

Ron Jaworski, who knows a few things about QBs, put Favre at #7 in his interview this morning.

He voted himself #1 and Steve Bartkowski #2 so keep that in mind.

 

[Sup_Yo]

Congrats to Favre on becoming the All-time winningest QB in the NFL.

Unlike some record holders, Favre is a champion and winner, not some stat guy.

He's already the league leader in completions (on fewer attempts than the #2 guy btw), and needs 4 more TD passes to hold the all-time record for that category.



Impossible not to consider him the best QB of all time, maybe Montana could make an argument, but that's about it.

Ron Jaworski, who knows a few things about QBs, put Favre at #7 in his interview this morning.

 

[Gordo]

Not to rain on your parade. But as a big Giants fan, let's be real their secondary had something to do with Favre's success today.

Who cares, they are still 2-0.

Yeah, so is Detroit.

 

[packersfan]

Congrats to Favre on becoming the All-time winningest QB in the NFL.

Unlike some record holders, Favre is a champion and winner, not some stat guy.

He's already the league leader in completions (on fewer attempts than the #2 guy btw), and needs 4 more TD passes to hold the all-time record for that category.



Impossible not to consider him the best QB of all time, maybe Montana could make an argument, but that's about it.

Ron Jaworski, who knows a few things about QBs, put Favre at #7 in his interview this morning.

Who were his Top 6? I wouldn't put Favre No. 1 (Montana is the guy there) but who did Jaws have in his Top 6? I'd say Favre deserves strong consideration for Top 5. He's certainly earned that.

 

[packersfan]

Not to rain on your parade. But as a big Giants fan, let's be real their secondary had something to do with Favre's success today.

Who cares, they are still 2-0.

Yeah, so is Detroit.

With that passing game, the Lions are going to win some more games too. They have sick talent at WR and as long as Kitna stays healthy they are going to be a nightmare to defend.

 

[Tough As Nails]

Congrats to Favre on becoming the All-time winningest QB in the NFL.

Unlike some record holders, Favre is a champion and winner, not some stat guy.

He's already the league leader in completions (on fewer attempts than the #2 guy btw), and needs 4 more TD passes to hold the all-time record for that category.



Impossible not to consider him the best QB of all time, maybe Montana could make an argument, but that's about it.

Ron Jaworski, who knows a few things about QBs, put Favre at #7 in his interview this morning.

Who were his Top 6? I wouldn't put Favre No. 1 (Montana is the guy there) but who did Jaws have in his Top 6? I'd say Favre deserves strong consideration for Top 5. He's certainly earned that.

He clarified with "in the modern era" before he started. I don't remember the order...but Montana was #1. He had Brady, Manning, Bradshaw, Aikman, Elway all ahead of Favre. He used the "winning is everything" quote and mentioned that Favre has only won 2 playoff games in the last 10 years.

 

[fatboyj711]

Not to rain on your parade. But as a big Giants fan, let's be real their secondary had something to do with Favre's success today.

although favre will always take the spotlight, the first game showed the true strengths of the packers... their defense and special teams...

 

[packersfan]

Congrats to Favre on becoming the All-time winningest QB in the NFL.

Unlike some record holders, Favre is a champion and winner, not some stat guy.

He's already the league leader in completions (on fewer attempts than the #2 guy btw), and needs 4 more TD passes to hold the all-time record for that category.



Impossible not to consider him the best QB of all time, maybe Montana could make an argument, but that's about it.

Ron Jaworski, who knows a few things about QBs, put Favre at #7 in his interview this morning.

Who were his Top 6? I wouldn't put Favre No. 1 (Montana is the guy there) but who did Jaws have in his Top 6? I'd say Favre deserves strong consideration for Top 5. He's certainly earned that.

He clarified with "in the modern era" before he started. I don't remember the order...but Montana was #1. He had Brady, Manning, Bradshaw, Aikman, Elway all ahead of Favre. He used the "winning is everything" quote and mentioned that Favre has only wib 2 playoff games in the last 10 years.

I think once you get past Montana it really becomes subjective. I wouldn't argue with Brady going second on that list. As far as the rest, I think Favre is comparable. Aikman, Bradshaw and Elway have more Super Bowls; Favre is the only three-time MVP winner. The "winning is everything" quote really shortsights things and I'm surprised he went that route. Favre certainly hasn't been at an MVP level in recent years but when you consider the offensive talent has eroded since Wolf left it's not difficult to see why the team hasn't had much postseason success. Watching the team now only serves to reinforce my frustration with Thompson over his passive approach to the offense in the offseason. This team has a chance to do some things in a wide-open NFC if there was more talent in place around Favre (and Driver).Oh well.

 

[Tough As Nails]

Congrats to Favre on becoming the All-time winningest QB in the NFL.

Unlike some record holders, Favre is a champion and winner, not some stat guy.

He's already the league leader in completions (on fewer attempts than the #2 guy btw), and needs 4 more TD passes to hold the all-time record for that category.



Impossible not to consider him the best QB of all time, maybe Montana could make an argument, but that's about it.

Ron Jaworski, who knows a few things about QBs, put Favre at #7 in his interview this morning.

Who were his Top 6? I wouldn't put Favre No. 1 (Montana is the guy there) but who did Jaws have in his Top 6? I'd say Favre deserves strong consideration for Top 5. He's certainly earned that.

He clarified with "in the modern era" before he started. I don't remember the order...but Montana was #1. He had Brady, Manning, Bradshaw, Aikman, Elway all ahead of Favre. He used the "winning is everything" quote and mentioned that Favre has only wib 2 playoff games in the last 10 years.

I think once you get past Montana it really becomes subjective. I wouldn't argue with Brady going second on that list. As far as the rest, I think Favre is comparable. Aikman, Bradshaw and Elway have more Super Bowls; Favre is the only three-time MVP winner. The "winning is everything" quote really shortsights things and I'm surprised he went that route. Favre certainly hasn't been at an MVP level in recent years but when you consider the offensive talent has eroded since Wolf left it's not difficult to see why the team hasn't had much postseason success. Watching the team now only serves to reinforce my frustration with Thompson over his passive approach to the offense in the offseason. This team has a chance to do some things in a wide-open NFC if there was more talent in place around Favre (and Driver).Oh well.

Wow. I totally agree. I think Montana is the clear #1...I'd put Brady at #2 and then I wouldn't really argue with anybody you wanted to slot in the #3-#10 spots. I'd put Favre at #7 or #8...but maybe that's because I do put more value on Super Bowls than regular season. Fair? Maybe, maybe not. But when they're all so close, the titles separate you.

 

[Sweet Love]

Not to rain on your parade. But as a big Giants fan, let's be real their secondary had something to do with Favre's success today.

Who cares, they are still 2-0.

Yeah, so is Detroit.

But Kitna said they would be...

 

[meanjoegreen]

Not to rain on your parade. But as a big Giants fan, let's be real their secondary had something to do with Favre's success today.

Who cares, they are still 2-0.

Yeah, so is Detroit.

What does that have to do with Green Bay being 2-0?

 

[packersfan]

Congrats to Favre on becoming the All-time winningest QB in the NFL.

Unlike some record holders, Favre is a champion and winner, not some stat guy.

He's already the league leader in completions (on fewer attempts than the #2 guy btw), and needs 4 more TD passes to hold the all-time record for that category.



Impossible not to consider him the best QB of all time, maybe Montana could make an argument, but that's about it.

Ron Jaworski, who knows a few things about QBs, put Favre at #7 in his interview this morning.

Who were his Top 6? I wouldn't put Favre No. 1 (Montana is the guy there) but who did Jaws have in his Top 6? I'd say Favre deserves strong consideration for Top 5. He's certainly earned that.

He clarified with "in the modern era" before he started. I don't remember the order...but Montana was #1. He had Brady, Manning, Bradshaw, Aikman, Elway all ahead of Favre. He used the "winning is everything" quote and mentioned that Favre has only wib 2 playoff games in the last 10 years.

I think once you get past Montana it really becomes subjective. I wouldn't argue with Brady going second on that list. As far as the rest, I think Favre is comparable. Aikman, Bradshaw and Elway have more Super Bowls; Favre is the only three-time MVP winner. The "winning is everything" quote really shortsights things and I'm surprised he went that route. Favre certainly hasn't been at an MVP level in recent years but when you consider the offensive talent has eroded since Wolf left it's not difficult to see why the team hasn't had much postseason success. Watching the team now only serves to reinforce my frustration with Thompson over his passive approach to the offense in the offseason. This team has a chance to do some things in a wide-open NFC if there was more talent in place around Favre (and Driver).Oh well.

Wow. I totally agree. I think Montana is the clear #1...I'd put Brady at #2 and then I wouldn't really argue with anybody you wanted to slot in the #3-#10 spots. I'd put Favre at #7 or #8...but maybe that's because I do put more value on Super Bowls than regular season. Fair? Maybe, maybe not. But when they're all so close, the titles separate you.

So then Starr should rank in the Top 5, correct? And where does that leave Marino? I think that's why it gets tricky to just rely on the Super Bowl titles. I'm not trying to make a case for Favre as much as I'm simply saying that just going off the "winning is everything" mantra may not be the fairest way to evaluate QBs. But that's just me and like I said it really is subjective.

 

[Tough As Nails]

Congrats to Favre on becoming the All-time winningest QB in the NFL.

Unlike some record holders, Favre is a champion and winner, not some stat guy.

He's already the league leader in completions (on fewer attempts than the #2 guy btw), and needs 4 more TD passes to hold the all-time record for that category.



Impossible not to consider him the best QB of all time, maybe Montana could make an argument, but that's about it.

Ron Jaworski, who knows a few things about QBs, put Favre at #7 in his interview this morning.

Who were his Top 6? I wouldn't put Favre No. 1 (Montana is the guy there) but who did Jaws have in his Top 6? I'd say Favre deserves strong consideration for Top 5. He's certainly earned that.

He clarified with "in the modern era" before he started. I don't remember the order...but Montana was #1. He had Brady, Manning, Bradshaw, Aikman, Elway all ahead of Favre. He used the "winning is everything" quote and mentioned that Favre has only wib 2 playoff games in the last 10 years.

I think once you get past Montana it really becomes subjective. I wouldn't argue with Brady going second on that list. As far as the rest, I think Favre is comparable. Aikman, Bradshaw and Elway have more Super Bowls; Favre is the only three-time MVP winner. The "winning is everything" quote really shortsights things and I'm surprised he went that route. Favre certainly hasn't been at an MVP level in recent years but when you consider the offensive talent has eroded since Wolf left it's not difficult to see why the team hasn't had much postseason success. Watching the team now only serves to reinforce my frustration with Thompson over his passive approach to the offense in the offseason. This team has a chance to do some things in a wide-open NFC if there was more talent in place around Favre (and Driver).Oh well.

Wow. I totally agree. I think Montana is the clear #1...I'd put Brady at #2 and then I wouldn't really argue with anybody you wanted to slot in the #3-#10 spots. I'd put Favre at #7 or #8...but maybe that's because I do put more value on Super Bowls than regular season. Fair? Maybe, maybe not. But when they're all so close, the titles separate you.

So then Starr should rank in the Top 5, correct? And where does that leave Marino? I think that's why it gets tricky to just rely on the Super Bowl titles. I'm not trying to make a case for Favre as much as I'm simply saying that just going off the "winning is everything" mantra may not be the fairest way to evaluate QBs. But that's just me and like I said it really is subjective.

When the guys are all so close...you have to have something to separate them. Super Bowls and playoff performance is what I consider the ultimate in QB play. Would you rather go 13-3 in the regular season and lose in the playoffs? Or 10-6 and win the Super Bowl? Pretty easy answer, right? So playoff performance should be considered before regular season performance. Favre has been outstanding at getting his team to the playoffs. That counts for a lot. But he hasn't delivered like the Montana's, Brady's, Elway's did...that puts him below them in my rankings.

 

[BroadwayG]

That counts for a lot. But he hasn't delivered like the Montana's, Brady's, Elway's did...that puts him below them in my rankings.

Please do not lump in that Super Bowl losing hack Elway in with SB winners.

 

[sho nuff]

Not to rain on your parade. But as a big Giants fan, let's be real their secondary had something to do with Favre's success today.

Who cares, they are still 2-0.

Yeah, so is Detroit.

Detroit's opponents? Minny and Oakland.Green Bay's? NY Giants and the Eagles...two teams that made the playoffs last year and did not draft in the top 5.

 

[Gordo]

Not to rain on your parade. But as a big Giants fan, let's be real their secondary had something to do with Favre's success today.

Who cares, they are still 2-0.

Yeah, so is Detroit.

What does that have to do with Green Bay being 2-0?

Being 2-0 isn't really that big of an accomplishment. More than 1/4 of the NFL is at 2-0.Don't get me wrong here, starting out 2-0 is nice, but I wouldn't start printing out the Super Bowl or even the playoff tickets just yet.Recent history has given us no reason to believe that Green Bay is going to do much with their 2-0 start.

 

[packersfan]

Not to rain on your parade. But as a big Giants fan, let's be real their secondary had something to do with Favre's success today.

Who cares, they are still 2-0.

Yeah, so is Detroit.

What does that have to do with Green Bay being 2-0?

Being 2-0 isn't really that big of an accomplishment.

Given how I thought the Packers would be 0-2 I think it's a pretty huge deal. Not saying it means they're even getting to the playoffs. But this is a MUCH better start than I envisioned for the team, that's for sure.

 

[sho nuff]

Not to rain on your parade. But as a big Giants fan, let's be real their secondary had something to do with Favre's success today.

Who cares, they are still 2-0.

Yeah, so is Detroit.

What does that have to do with Green Bay being 2-0?

Being 2-0 isn't really that big of an accomplishment.

Given how I thought the Packers would be 0-2 I think it's a pretty huge deal. Not saying it means they're even getting to the playoffs. But this is a MUCH better start than I envisioned for the team, that's for sure.

I had them 1-1 at this point. Picked the Giants win (before the season started).I put them at 8-8 for the year.The run game is giving me no reason to adjust it...but if the defense keeps playing this well, I might.Sadly, looking at most of their games, there are not many that really just scare you. That is the thing about a good defense. They keep you in games. And if Favre can play well and take what is given to him (as he did yesterday) they will be tough to beat.More bad news though on injuries as Holliday is now on the IR and done for the year.

 

[BeaverCleaver]

Not to rain on your parade. But as a big Giants fan, let's be real their secondary had something to do with Favre's success today.

Who cares, they are still 2-0.

Yeah, so is Detroit.

What does that have to do with Green Bay being 2-0?

Being 2-0 isn't really that big of an accomplishment. Recent history has given us no reason to believe that Green Bay is going to do much with their 2-0 start.

You contradict yourself...if recent history gives no reason the Packers will do much with their 2-0 start then shouldn't it be an accomplishment they have gone 2-0? The Eagles have owned the Packers and the Packers were underdogs last week. In the last 40 seasons, the Packers were 2-0 merely six times: 1969, '78, '82, '96, '98 and 2001.

 

[sho nuff]

Not to rain on your parade. But as a big Giants fan, let's be real their secondary had something to do with Favre's success today.

Who cares, they are still 2-0.

Yeah, so is Detroit.

What does that have to do with Green Bay being 2-0?

Being 2-0 isn't really that big of an accomplishment. Recent history has given us no reason to believe that Green Bay is going to do much with their 2-0 start.

You contradict yourself...if recent history gives no reason the Packers will do much with their 2-0 start then shouldn't it be an accomplishment they have gone 2-0? The Eagles have owned the Packers and the Packers were underdogs last week. In the last 40 seasons, the Packers were 2-0 merely six times: 1969, '78, '82, '96, '98 and 2001.

And recent history had them winning games down the stretch last year...would that not give people reason to believe the Packers would do something with their 2-0 start. Hell, they still have 4 games left against Minny and Detroit.

 

[BeaverCleaver]

Not to rain on your parade. But as a big Giants fan, let's be real their secondary had something to do with Favre's success today.

Who cares, they are still 2-0.

Yeah, so is Detroit.

What does that have to do with Green Bay being 2-0?

Being 2-0 isn't really that big of an accomplishment. Recent history has given us no reason to believe that Green Bay is going to do much with their 2-0 start.

You contradict yourself...if recent history gives no reason the Packers will do much with their 2-0 start then shouldn't it be an accomplishment they have gone 2-0? The Eagles have owned the Packers and the Packers were underdogs last week. In the last 40 seasons, the Packers were 2-0 merely six times: 1969, '78, '82, '96, '98 and 2001.

And recent history had them winning games down the stretch last year...would that not give people reason to believe the Packers would do something with their 2-0 start. Hell, they still have 4 games left against Minny and Detroit.

Good point....I just looked up that they are now 6-0 in their last 6 games and 9-4 in their last 13 going back to last season.

 

[Gordo]

Not to rain on your parade. But as a big Giants fan, let's be real their secondary had something to do with Favre's success today.

Who cares, they are still 2-0.

Yeah, so is Detroit.

What does that have to do with Green Bay being 2-0?

Being 2-0 isn't really that big of an accomplishment. Recent history has given us no reason to believe that Green Bay is going to do much with their 2-0 start.

You contradict yourself...if recent history gives no reason the Packers will do much with their 2-0 start then shouldn't it be an accomplishment they have gone 2-0? The Eagles have owned the Packers and the Packers were underdogs last week. In the last 40 seasons, the Packers were 2-0 merely six times: 1969, '78, '82, '96, '98 and 2001.

It is an accomplishment - yes. Just not a big one. After tonight there will be 9 or 10 teams that are 2-0. They aren't all going to go to the playoffs.

 

[barista]

winning isn't everything... ask Barry Sanders... (or Marino)

 

[BroadwayG]

winning isn't everything... ask Barry Sanders... (or Marino)

I'm pretty sure they'd both trade records for rings.

 

[packersfan]

winning isn't everything... ask Barry Sanders... (or Marino)

I'm pretty sure they'd both trade records for rings.

I'm sure they would but should the lack of rings or playoff victories diminish their greatness? That's the question.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Congrats to Favre on becoming the All-time winningest QB in the NFL.

Unlike some record holders, Favre is a champion and winner, not some stat guy.

He's already the league leader in completions (on fewer attempts than the #2 guy btw), and needs 4 more TD passes to hold the all-time record for that category.



Impossible not to consider him the best QB of all time, maybe Montana could make an argument, but that's about it.

Ron Jaworski, who knows a few things about QBs, put Favre at #7 in his interview this morning.

Who were his Top 6? I wouldn't put Favre No. 1 (Montana is the guy there) but who did Jaws have in his Top 6? I'd say Favre deserves strong consideration for Top 5. He's certainly earned that.

He clarified with "in the modern era" before he started. I don't remember the order...but Montana was #1. He had Brady, Manning, Bradshaw, Aikman, Elway all ahead of Favre. He used the "winning is everything" quote and mentioned that Favre has only wib 2 playoff games in the last 10 years.

I think once you get past Montana it really becomes subjective. I wouldn't argue with Brady going second on that list. As far as the rest, I think Favre is comparable. Aikman, Bradshaw and Elway have more Super Bowls; Favre is the only three-time MVP winner. The "winning is everything" quote really shortsights things and I'm surprised he went that route. Favre certainly hasn't been at an MVP level in recent years but when you consider the offensive talent has eroded since Wolf left it's not difficult to see why the team hasn't had much postseason success. Watching the team now only serves to reinforce my frustration with Thompson over his passive approach to the offense in the offseason. This team has a chance to do some things in a wide-open NFC if there was more talent in place around Favre (and Driver).Oh well.

Wow. I totally agree. I think Montana is the clear #1...I'd put Brady at #2 and then I wouldn't really argue with anybody you wanted to slot in the #3-#10 spots. I'd put Favre at #7 or #8...but maybe that's because I do put more value on Super Bowls than regular season. Fair? Maybe, maybe not. But when they're all so close, the titles separate you.

I think the consecutive games record is his most impressive accomplishment and has to count for something in the analysis. There were some amazing starts over that period and in my opinion this adds substantially to his image as a team leader.

 

[BroadwayG]

winning isn't everything... ask Barry Sanders... (or Marino)

I'm pretty sure they'd both trade records for rings.

I'm sure they would but should the lack of rings or playoff victories diminish their greatness? That's the question.

I was just debunking the point barista made about winning isn't everything.

 

[Gordo]

winning isn't everything... ask Barry Sanders... (or Marino)

I'm pretty sure they'd both trade records for rings.

I'm sure they would but should the lack of rings or playoff victories diminish their greatness? That's the question.

Only when compared to other greatness that have rings and playoff victories.I'm not a Packer fan, but I'll gladly admit that Favre is one of the best to ever play the game. But, ultimately the reason the game is played is to win the Super Bowl. That is what it is all about - so yes, it is an important factor.

 

[sho nuff]

winning isn't everything... ask Barry Sanders... (or Marino)

I'm pretty sure they'd both trade records for rings.

I'm sure they would but should the lack of rings or playoff victories diminish their greatness? That's the question.

Only when compared to other greatness that have rings and playoff victories.I'm not a Packer fan, but I'll gladly admit that Favre is one of the best to ever play the game. But, ultimately the reason the game is played is to win the Super Bowl. That is what it is all about - so yes, it is an important factor.

Well Elway has one more win than Favre...and other than the overrated tailspin run by Elway, that game was decided by the Packers inability to stop Davis running the ball.I put them about even IMO...and I have Favre in the top 5.

 

[packersfan]

winning isn't everything... ask Barry Sanders... (or Marino)

I'm pretty sure they'd both trade records for rings.

I'm sure they would but should the lack of rings or playoff victories diminish their greatness? That's the question.

Only when compared to other greatness that have rings and playoff victories.I'm not a Packer fan, but I'll gladly admit that Favre is one of the best to ever play the game. But, ultimately the reason the game is played is to win the Super Bowl. That is what it is all about - so yes, it is an important factor.

I agree. However, I think Barry Sanders is the greatest RB I have ever seen (I never saw Jim Brown play). The fact he never won a Super Bowl and had few playoff victories doesn't diminish his greatness. Same with Marino.

 

[Tough As Nails]

Congrats to Favre on becoming the All-time winningest QB in the NFL.

Unlike some record holders, Favre is a champion and winner, not some stat guy.

He's already the league leader in completions (on fewer attempts than the #2 guy btw), and needs 4 more TD passes to hold the all-time record for that category.



Impossible not to consider him the best QB of all time, maybe Montana could make an argument, but that's about it.

Ron Jaworski, who knows a few things about QBs, put Favre at #7 in his interview this morning.

Who were his Top 6? I wouldn't put Favre No. 1 (Montana is the guy there) but who did Jaws have in his Top 6? I'd say Favre deserves strong consideration for Top 5. He's certainly earned that.

He clarified with "in the modern era" before he started. I don't remember the order...but Montana was #1. He had Brady, Manning, Bradshaw, Aikman, Elway all ahead of Favre. He used the "winning is everything" quote and mentioned that Favre has only wib 2 playoff games in the last 10 years.

I think once you get past Montana it really becomes subjective. I wouldn't argue with Brady going second on that list. As far as the rest, I think Favre is comparable. Aikman, Bradshaw and Elway have more Super Bowls; Favre is the only three-time MVP winner. The "winning is everything" quote really shortsights things and I'm surprised he went that route. Favre certainly hasn't been at an MVP level in recent years but when you consider the offensive talent has eroded since Wolf left it's not difficult to see why the team hasn't had much postseason success. Watching the team now only serves to reinforce my frustration with Thompson over his passive approach to the offense in the offseason. This team has a chance to do some things in a wide-open NFC if there was more talent in place around Favre (and Driver).Oh well.

Wow. I totally agree. I think Montana is the clear #1...I'd put Brady at #2 and then I wouldn't really argue with anybody you wanted to slot in the #3-#10 spots. I'd put Favre at #7 or #8...but maybe that's because I do put more value on Super Bowls than regular season. Fair? Maybe, maybe not. But when they're all so close, the titles separate you.

I think the consecutive games record is his most impressive accomplishment and has to count for something in the analysis. There were some amazing starts over that period and in my opinion this adds substantially to his image as a team leader.

I think it's an overrated "record". First off...it's the "record" for QBs. Not the consecutive games record. Ripken's streak was way overrated too. Would you rather have a QB that plays 12 regular season games and takes you to the Super Bowl or one that plays all 16 and doesn't? Brady, Montana, Elway, Manning, etc...they never missed a playoff game due to injury. Put it another way...if Favre would have missed the 4th game in 1999 and the 12th game in 2003...would he be any less "tough"? Would he be any less reliable? No. Would it have affected the Packers much? No. I already acknowledged that Favre gets credit in my book for being very successful in getting Green Bay to the playoffs. His durability factors in to that equation.

 

[sho nuff]

I think it's an overrated "record". First off...it's the "record" for QBs. Not the consecutive games record. Ripken's streak was way overrated too. Would you rather have a QB that plays 12 regular season games and takes you to the Super Bowl or one that plays all 16 and doesn't? Brady, Montana, Elway, Manning, etc...they never missed a playoff game due to injury. Put it another way...if Favre would have missed the 4th game in 1999 and the 12th game in 2003...would he be any less "tough"? Would he be any less reliable? No. Would it have affected the Packers much? No. I already acknowledged that Favre gets credit in my book for being very successful in getting Green Bay to the playoffs. His durability factors in to that equation.

Ill take being a fan of a team who, for the past 14 years has not worried about who the starting QB is. Who delivered 3 MVPs, 2 Super Bowl appearances and one one SB win. One losing season. More wins than any other QB ever, close to more TDs and yards than anyone else ever...and even deal with more INTs than anyone ever.Manning has also never missed a game in his career either.I think its impressive from the standpoint of the type of beating a QB takes. And how many other QBs have played since his streak started.Hell, just the number of QBs that have started for Chicago, Detroit, and Minny since Favre has been the starter in GB is ridiculous.

 

[packersfan]

I think it's an overrated "record". First off...it's the "record" for QBs. Not the consecutive games record. Ripken's streak was way overrated too. Would you rather have a QB that plays 12 regular season games and takes you to the Super Bowl or one that plays all 16 and doesn't? Brady, Montana, Elway, Manning, etc...they never missed a playoff game due to injury. Put it another way...if Favre would have missed the 4th game in 1999 and the 12th game in 2003...would he be any less "tough"? Would he be any less reliable? No. Would it have affected the Packers much? No. I already acknowledged that Favre gets credit in my book for being very successful in getting Green Bay to the playoffs. His durability factors in to that equation.

Ill take being a fan of a team who, for the past 14 years has not worried about who the starting QB is. Who delivered 3 MVPs, 2 Super Bowl appearances and one one SB win. One losing season. More wins than any other QB ever, close to more TDs and yards than anyone else ever...and even deal with more INTs than anyone ever.Manning has also never missed a game in his career either.I think its impressive from the standpoint of the type of beating a QB takes. And how many other QBs have played since his streak started.Hell, just the number of QBs that have started for Chicago, Detroit, and Minny since Favre has been the starter in GB is ridiculous.

Agreed. Favre's durability has been incredible and a real testament to his greatness. Same with Manning.

 

[jon_mx]

Congrats to Favre on becoming the All-time winningest QB in the NFL.

Unlike some record holders, Favre is a champion and winner, not some stat guy.

He's already the league leader in completions (on fewer attempts than the #2 guy btw), and needs 4 more TD passes to hold the all-time record for that category.

Impossible not to consider him the best QB of all time, maybe Montana could make an argument, but that's about it.

Not gonna say Manning is better, but Manning will end up beating all those records.

 

[Tough As Nails]

I think it's an overrated "record". First off...it's the "record" for QBs. Not the consecutive games record. Ripken's streak was way overrated too. Would you rather have a QB that plays 12 regular season games and takes you to the Super Bowl or one that plays all 16 and doesn't? Brady, Montana, Elway, Manning, etc...they never missed a playoff game due to injury. Put it another way...if Favre would have missed the 4th game in 1999 and the 12th game in 2003...would he be any less "tough"? Would he be any less reliable? No. Would it have affected the Packers much? No. I already acknowledged that Favre gets credit in my book for being very successful in getting Green Bay to the playoffs. His durability factors in to that equation.

Ill take being a fan of a team who, for the past 14 years has not worried about who the starting QB is. Who delivered 3 MVPs, 2 Super Bowl appearances and one one SB win. One losing season. More wins than any other QB ever, close to more TDs and yards than anyone else ever...and even deal with more INTs than anyone ever.Manning has also never missed a game in his career either.I think its impressive from the standpoint of the type of beating a QB takes. And how many other QBs have played since his streak started.Hell, just the number of QBs that have started for Chicago, Detroit, and Minny since Favre has been the starter in GB is ridiculous.

I certainly see your point here. But the same can be said for Montana, Brady, Manning, Elway...the other 'best of the best' guys. Throwing the Lions and Bears QBs in the discussion doesn't make sense. We aren't talking about those scrubs.