ImTheScientist
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Where do you rank him all time? Provide a list of QB's you rank above him if possible.
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Challenge Everything
Footballguy
[-primetime-] Not even top 30. Romo >>>> Favre [/-primetime-]
RenegadeGM
Footballguy
Not only is he the greatest QB ever, he is the finest human being ever to walk the face of the Earth.
Signed,
John Madden
Signed,
John Madden
Challenge Everything
Footballguy
Just had a stat on tv saying Favre has thrown TDs to 42 different WRs. How many can you name without Googleing?
I could easily do 30+
I could easily do 30+
moleculo
Footballguy
Favre > Marino. Marino's only claim to fame was all of the records - if Favre owns all of those records, championships, and multiple MVP's, it becomes pretty obvious that he is better than Marino.
if Marino was considered top 5, then so is Favre.
in my book, it goes Unitas, Elway, Montana, at top 3, Favre and a QB to be named later round out top 5.
if Marino was considered top 5, then so is Favre.
in my book, it goes Unitas, Elway, Montana, at top 3, Favre and a QB to be named later round out top 5.
Fla\/\/ed
Footballguy
I think there was some skill involved
Pound
Footballguy
I agree but.. there was some luck involved too.I think there was some skill involved
Fla\/\/ed
Footballguy
It's amazing that luck can get a guy 3 MVPs and a Super Bowl win.I agree but.. there was some luck involved too.I think there was some skill involved
bostonfred
Footballguy
Congratulations Favre on breaking the record.
If I'm starting a new franchise and can draft any quarterback in history as a rookie, I would probably take Brett Favre. He almost singlehandedly kept Green Bay competitive over the years while putting up record setting numbers and winning a championship.
If I'm starting a new franchise and can draft any quarterback in history as a rookie, I would probably take Brett Favre. He almost singlehandedly kept Green Bay competitive over the years while putting up record setting numbers and winning a championship.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Congrats Brett 
John Black
Footballguy
Did you guys noticed he pretty much ignored Dan Marino when he was talking.
tomarken
Footballguy
I made this exact argument to one of my friends last week when Favre tied the record. He's done everything Marino did, and more. It might take a while, but 10 years from now I bet almost everyone has Favre over Marino on their list of top QB's.
Tau837
Footballguy
Do you think anyone could get this record without longevity? You say that like it's a disadvantage. He's averaged 1.74 TD passes per game, not counting postseason or his two games in Atlanta in which he had a total of 4 attempts. How many QBs have averaged more over a large number of games?
Tau837
Footballguy
Edgar BennettDorsey LevensAhman GreenWilliam HendersonSamkon GadoMark ChmuraBubba FranksKeith JacksonDonald LeeDonald DriverGreg JenningsJavon WalkerTerry GlennRobert FergusonBill SchroederAntonio FreemanCorey BradfordRobert BrooksSterling SharpeAndre RisonDesmond Howard?That's all I can come up with off the top of my head. Not sure about Howard, but I can't think of any other WRs... So at best, I can only come up with half.
Tau837
Footballguy
Plus, in that situation, it is pretty valuable to know that you won't have to worry about a backup QB for 15+ years. I mean, you could literally not even have one on your roster...
Tau837
Footballguy
As for the poll question, I voted top 10, because I'm sure about that. I'm not as sure about top 5, due to the difficulty of comparing modern era QBs and pre-modern era QBs. In my mind, I am certain that I'd rank Montana and Unitas above Favre. I think it's very close with Elway. I agree Favre is above Marino. But I think it's harder to say for guys like Sammy Baugh and Otto Graham. I also think Peyton Manning will ultimately be ahead of Favre, and Brady has a slim chance as well.
Southside Stosh
Footballguy
Favre is in the top five, no question. Possibly the top 3.
Challenge Everything
Footballguy
Attempting my challenge here:
RB:
Dorsey Levens
Edgar Bennett
Ryan Grant
Ahman Green
William Henderson
Samkon Gado
Tony Fisher
TE:
Keith Jackson
Donald Lee
Bubba Franks
Mark Chumura
Wesley Walls
David Martin
WR:
Kitrick Taylor
Sterling Sharpe
Robert Brooks
Don Beebe
Andre Rison
Antonio Freeman
Donald Driver
Greg Jennings
Javon Walker
Ruvell Martin
Robert Ferguson
Bill Schroeder
Corey Bradford
Terry Glenn
edit - Carlyle Holliday maybe.
Im disappointed... only 27 here.
RB:
Dorsey Levens
Edgar Bennett
Ryan Grant
Ahman Green
William Henderson
Samkon Gado
Tony Fisher
TE:
Keith Jackson
Donald Lee
Bubba Franks
Mark Chumura
Wesley Walls
David Martin
WR:
Kitrick Taylor
Sterling Sharpe
Robert Brooks
Don Beebe
Andre Rison
Antonio Freeman
Donald Driver
Greg Jennings
Javon Walker
Ruvell Martin
Robert Ferguson
Bill Schroeder
Corey Bradford
Terry Glenn
edit - Carlyle Holliday maybe.
Im disappointed... only 27 here.
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moleculo
Footballguy
well put.
strykerpks
Footballguy
Thats almost the exact list I just came up withAttempting my challenge here:RBorsey LevensEdgar BennettRyan GrantAhman GreenWilliam HendersonSamkon GadoTony FisherTE:Keith JacksonDonald LeeBubba FranksMark ChumuraWesley WallsDavid MartinWR:Kitrick TaylorSterling SharpeRobert BrooksDon BeebeAndre RisonAntonio FreemanDonald DriverGreg JenningsJavon WalkerRuvell MartinRobert FergusonBill SchroederCorey BradfordTerry Glennedit - Carlyle Holliday maybe.Im disappointed... only 27 here.
Minus Kitrick Taylor 
Add Anthony Morgan, Terry Mickens, Mark Ingram, Tyrone Davis and Charles LeeAnd maybe Morency and Herron?
Challenge Everything
Footballguy
I believe all of those would be correct as well.
Challenge Everything
Footballguy
Add Morency to the list... I would think.
strykerpks
Footballguy
My boss just said Reggie Cobb and Mark Clayton
Challenge Everything
Footballguy
It was bugging me so I looked them up finally.
I was not sure about the following two but Darrell Thompson and Harry Sydney did catch TD passes.
Darrell Thompson - RB
Harry Sydney - RB
Jackie Harris - TE
Ed West - TE
Reggie Cobb - RB
Anthony Morgan - WR
Charles Jordan - WR
Mark Ingram - WR
Terry Mickens - WR
Derrick Mayes - WR
Jeff Thomason - TE
Tyrone Davis - TE
Charles Lee - WR/TE
Antonio Chatman - WR
Noah Herron - RB
These are the ones not mentioned. Ryan Grant or Wynn have not caught one from Favre.
I was not sure about the following two but Darrell Thompson and Harry Sydney did catch TD passes.
Darrell Thompson - RB
Harry Sydney - RB
Jackie Harris - TE
Ed West - TE
Reggie Cobb - RB
Anthony Morgan - WR
Charles Jordan - WR
Mark Ingram - WR
Terry Mickens - WR
Derrick Mayes - WR
Jeff Thomason - TE
Tyrone Davis - TE
Charles Lee - WR/TE
Antonio Chatman - WR
Noah Herron - RB
These are the ones not mentioned. Ryan Grant or Wynn have not caught one from Favre.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
for farve
Phase of the Game
Footballguy
His name is spelled Favre.for farve
H.K.
Footballguy
fixed.Winningest QB of all time: check
Congrats to one of the best of all-time!
Most completions ever: check
Most TD passes ever: check
Super Bowl Winner: check
Three time MVP: check
Other QBs that can claim to have accomplished what Brett Favre has done in his career: zero
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
See post #1...mistakes happen...but thanks.His name is spelled Favre.
stevegamer
Footballguy
Very well said.I think he's behind Graham for pure domination of his era. So he's in the 4-7 range for me.
patriarchz
Footballguy
Top 3? C'mon, his career has been great, but there are 2 QBs playing right now (let alone all the great QBs over the years) that you'd rather have over Favre in Manning and Brady, so how can you say he's top 3? No way.
Tau837
Footballguy
Graham has an impressive record. He played 10 total seasons, and was in the championship game all 10 times. That includes 4 straight AAFC championships, followed by 6 straight times in the NFL championship game - winning 3 times - once the Browns joined the NFL. He also had an amazing record of 105-17-4. He also was named "All League" 9 of 10 seasons.That said, he played for a powerhouse team that included several HOFers and the best defense in the league, so it's hard to know how responsible Graham was for all that success. I mean, he was obviously great, but for all I know, not having seen him play, he was Troy Aikman great, not Joe Montana great. And it is also worth noting that there were only 7 or 8 teams in the AAFC and 12 or 13 in the NFL during his time in those leagues.That's why I said I'm not sure about him. Or Baugh, who led the league in interceptions (as a defensive player), passing, and punting all in the same season IIRC... just not sure how to compare a guy like that to Favre or other modern day QBs.
enfuego
Footballguy
Don't blame him. Marino not being at that game when it was a lock that Favre would break the record was bush league.
Kleck.
Footballguy
He had a game to win. I liked it that he went on doing what he'd normally do... Sit down on the bench to check the film and talk with coaches to get ready for the next drive. He's said all week that he wants to win first, and I believe Favre when he says the only record he cares about is the team's win/loss record.
shakeybarn
Footballguy
those MVPs all came within a short period... the rest I will give him props on tenure...last I checked as well...Favre is up there with 275 interceptions.. two behind Blanda....fixed.Winningest QB of all time: check
Congrats to one of the best of all-time!
Most completions ever: check
Most TD passes ever: check
Super Bowl Winner: check
Three time MVP: check
Other QBs that can claim to have accomplished what Brett Favre has done in his career: zero
I have him in the Top 10... somewhere right after above Warren Moon and Dan Marino.
strykerpks
Footballguy
C'mon now. Just as Favre had a job to do (i.e. checking the play photos etc), so does Marino. I'm a Favre apologist but at least Marino had the cajones to say something that I think was hearfelt (although scripted) to him. It wasn't a CBS game so why should he leave his job?
I like how people put down his record because he's played for a long time, forgetting that most QBs don't have the will, physical ability, and talent to play as long as he has, and as a plus he's still fun to watch and still celebrates TDs like it's the first one he's ever thrown.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Of course the same could be said about Brady v. Favre. Plus Brady pulls better tail.fixed.Winningest QB of all time: check
Congrats to one of the best of all-time!
Most completions ever: check
Most TD passes ever: check
Super Bowl Winner: check
Three time MVP: check
Other QBs that can claim to have accomplished what Brett Favre has done in his career: zero
patriarchz
Footballguy
Number of current QBs who I'd rather have on my team than Favre: 2Both Manning and Brady are better QBs than Favre. We don't even have to talk history to find QBs who are better, but if we did, we'd find plenty more. There is no doubt that he is a huge fan favorite though.fixed.Winningest QB of all time: check
Congrats to one of the best of all-time!
Most completions ever: check
Most TD passes ever: check
Super Bowl Winner: check
Three time MVP: check
Other QBs that can claim to have accomplished what Brett Favre has done in his career: zero
Let the homerism continue...
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moleculo
Footballguy
are you seriously comparing a 37 yr old QB, 10 years removed from his last MVP to QB's in the prime of their careers? Check back when Manning and Brady are 37 - see how they stack up with the Leinart/Cutler/Palmer/(insert stud QB du jour here). The fact that Favre can be in the same conservation with those guys at this point is remarkable, much less guiding a team to a 4-0 record w/o a running game.
moleculo
Footballguy
Here's the thing about those early Browns teams - the AAFC was sent up to compete with the NFL. They didn't have a draft - instead they allowed teams to sign talented players directly, in order to lure talent away. Essentially owners could buy a team, which is what Paul Brown did. When the Browns joined the NFL, they basically had a team of players who bypassed the NFL draft completely, so it really wasn't fair. Winning all of those titles had alot to do with excellent talent - not that Graham wasn't the real deal, but you kinda have to understand that the deck was stacked in his favor.
zoonation
Footballguy
It isn't who you'd rather have...when talking best of all time you need to be somewhat objective in your criteria. He is a lock for top 10 and likely top 5 IMO...and he'll play again next year. I do think he will be passed by both Brady and Manning when it is all said and done, but those guys have a ways to go to catch him. Most wins, completions and TDs. Supebowl win and MVPs.
His longevity is one of the reasons he is the greatest of all time. What more could this guy do?
His longevity is one of the reasons he is the greatest of all time. What more could this guy do?
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Comeback player of the year.
