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Brian Baldinger of the NFL Network on Adrian Peterson (1 Viewer)

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Baldinger said that before A-Pete tore up the Bears today. He stated it during his NFC Playbook show a few days ago on the NFL Network. I thought the statement was premature, if not a little absurd (Tomlinson, anyone?)... but the guy may be right. :)

 
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Is Peterson the best pure runner? An argument could be made, sure.

But being the best running back involves catching passes and blocking. LT is still far superior in those areas.

 
Is Peterson the best pure runner? An argument could be made, sure.

But being the best running back involves catching passes and blocking. LT is still far superior in those areas.
I think if you look at the QB's Minnesota has trotted out recently, blocking isn't really an issue (Ball isn't getting anywhere either way) and the odds of him needing to catch a pass farther than 2-3 yards away is low. So with those two requirements safely removed thanks to Minny's current starters, he's the best running back in the game. :wall:
 
He's going to be special, but let's not get carried away here.

Let's hope he doesn't pull a Billy Sims.

 
He's going to be special, but let's not get carried away here.Let's hope he doesn't pull a Billy Sims.
Sims was a great back and that injury was really a freak occurrence. Peterson will be off the charts good if he can stay healthy but he has collarbone issues which will likely effect him later.
 
I'm a Vikes homer and if given the choice I'd still take LT and if I could take a second RB I'd still contemplate LJ, but Jesus AD was insane today. Pretty much a complete back. What really impresses me is his acceleration, vision, and ability to hit the hole. Guy is going to be great for several years. Give me this question in a year or two and I'm guessing AD is my top choice.

 
He's going to be special, but let's not get carried away here.

Let's hope he doesn't pull a Billy Sims.
Sims was a great back and that injury was really a freak occurrence. Peterson will be off the charts good if he can stay healthy but he has collarbone issues which will likely effect him later.
:thumbdown: Why would this affect him later if it hasn't already? The injury was quite some time ago.
 
He's going to be special, but let's not get carried away here.

Let's hope he doesn't pull a Billy Sims.
Sims was a great back and that injury was really a freak occurrence. Peterson will be off the charts good if he can stay healthy but he has collarbone issues which will likely effect him later.
:confused: Why would this affect him later if it hasn't already? The injury was quite some time ago.
He's broken it twice, the last time in the 2007 Fiesta Bowl (Don't know if that's some time ago to you or not). He was supposed to get surgery to have a metal plate inserted to help it in the future but he decided against it. HTH.
 
He's going to be special, but let's not get carried away here.

Let's hope he doesn't pull a Billy Sims.
Sims was a great back and that injury was really a freak occurrence. Peterson will be off the charts good if he can stay healthy but he has collarbone issues which will likely effect him later.
:confused: Why would this affect him later if it hasn't already? The injury was quite some time ago.
He's broken it twice, the last time in the 2007 Fiesta Bowl (Don't know if that's some time ago to you or not). He was supposed to get surgery to have a metal plate inserted to help it in the future but he decided against it. HTH.
Only broken once as far as I know. I didn't realize he rebroke it in the Fiesta Bowl?He played with a bruished shoulder in his freshman year that he got in the Texas game.

It's a non-issue right now. Let's revisit this thread in about five years shall we? :tfp:

 
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Is Peterson the best pure runner? An argument could be made, sure.

But being the best running back involves catching passes and blocking. LT is still far superior in those areas.
I think if you look at the QB's Minnesota has trotted out recently, blocking isn't really an issue (Ball isn't getting anywhere either way) and the odds of him needing to catch a pass farther than 2-3 yards away is low. So with those two requirements safely removed thanks to Minny's current starters, he's the best running back in the game. :confused:
But RAIDERNATION left out throwing. I believe LT has the highest passer rating in the league this season, and it's pretty insane for his entire career as well. :tfp:
 
He's not even the best RB on his team. Surely Childress is smart enough to give his best back the majority of the carries, right? :banned:

 
Watching his press conference right now. Very impressive how humble he seems and how intelligently he discusses the aspects of playing RB. Seems genuinely excited about playing as he talked about he could have maybe broken off a couple other long ones, how his family will be there next week, how Chester Taylor played well. I couldn't be happier with our first round pick this year.

 
He's going to be special, but let's not get carried away here.

Let's hope he doesn't pull a Billy Sims.
Sims was a great back and that injury was really a freak occurrence. Peterson will be off the charts good if he can stay healthy but he has collarbone issues which will likely effect him later.
:banned: Why would this affect him later if it hasn't already? The injury was quite some time ago.
He's broken it twice, the last time in the 2007 Fiesta Bowl (Don't know if that's some time ago to you or not). He was supposed to get surgery to have a metal plate inserted to help it in the future but he decided against it. HTH.
Only broken once as far as I know. I didn't realize he rebroke it in the Fiesta Bowl?He played with a bruished shoulder in his freshman year that he got in the Texas game.
Broke it last year vs ISU but re-injured it in the Fiesta Bowl. Likely didn't have enough time to fully let it set so it is one injury which occurred twice. Also have to remember the high ankle sprain in 2005. Injuries are a concern with this guy but I hope it's never an issue. I'm an OU homer also btw.
 
He's going to be special, but let's not get carried away here.

Let's hope he doesn't pull a Billy Sims.
Sims was a great back and that injury was really a freak occurrence. Peterson will be off the charts good if he can stay healthy but he has collarbone issues which will likely effect him later.
:confused: Why would this affect him later if it hasn't already? The injury was quite some time ago.
He's broken it twice, the last time in the 2007 Fiesta Bowl (Don't know if that's some time ago to you or not). He was supposed to get surgery to have a metal plate inserted to help it in the future but he decided against it. HTH.
Uhk. He wasn't supposed to have surgery. They considered surgery but decided against it. I'm pretty sure that if this was serious enough, they would have gone through with the surgery.Also, he broke his collarbone 12 months ago and re-aggravated it 10 months ago. That is a VERY long time for a collarbone injury.

He participated in off-season workouts, preseason, and he has had 96 carries + kickoff duties through 5 games. Does that sound like anyone is concerned about his injuries? The answer is no.

I hope you're trying to set up a trade for him in your league by attempting to lower his value here; otherwise I'm pretty :confused:

 
He's going to be special, but let's not get carried away here.

Let's hope he doesn't pull a Billy Sims.
Sims was a great back and that injury was really a freak occurrence. Peterson will be off the charts good if he can stay healthy but he has collarbone issues which will likely effect him later.
:confused: Why would this affect him later if it hasn't already? The injury was quite some time ago.
He's broken it twice, the last time in the 2007 Fiesta Bowl (Don't know if that's some time ago to you or not). He was supposed to get surgery to have a metal plate inserted to help it in the future but he decided against it. HTH.
Uhk. He wasn't supposed to have surgery. They considered surgery but decided against it. I'm pretty sure that if this was serious enough, they would have gone through with the surgery.Also, he broke his collarbone 12 months ago and re-aggravated it 10 months ago. That is a VERY long time for a collarbone injury.

He participated in off-season workouts, preseason, and he has had 96 carries + kickoff duties through 5 games. Does that sound like anyone is concerned about his injuries? The answer is no.

I hope you're trying to set up a trade for him in your league by attempting to lower his value here; otherwise I'm pretty :confused:
You're confused by the truth? I don't follow. I'm a big fan, and don't own him in any leagues.
 
Childress is a punching bag around here, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt about the timeshare thing. He is with the team every day -- we aren't. Peterson runs every carry like it's the last play of the Super Bowl. 100% effort all the time. Perhaps Childress knows that he would simply wear down carrying the ball 30 times, and in the end it would be counter-productive.

I'm willing to believe that AP is producing like this because Taylor keeps him fresh... not in spite of it.

He's done just fine the way things are. I see no reason to change anything.

 
It was a great call by him. And he would be right.

He should probably get a raise. AD had the single best performance in NFL history today.

 
He's going to be special, but let's not get carried away here.

Let's hope he doesn't pull a Billy Sims.
Sims was a great back and that injury was really a freak occurrence. Peterson will be off the charts good if he can stay healthy but he has collarbone issues which will likely effect him later.
:confused: Why would this affect him later if it hasn't already? The injury was quite some time ago.
He's broken it twice, the last time in the 2007 Fiesta Bowl (Don't know if that's some time ago to you or not). He was supposed to get surgery to have a metal plate inserted to help it in the future but he decided against it. HTH.
Uhk. He wasn't supposed to have surgery. They considered surgery but decided against it. I'm pretty sure that if this was serious enough, they would have gone through with the surgery.Also, he broke his collarbone 12 months ago and re-aggravated it 10 months ago. That is a VERY long time for a collarbone injury.

He participated in off-season workouts, preseason, and he has had 96 carries + kickoff duties through 5 games. Does that sound like anyone is concerned about his injuries? The answer is no.

I hope you're trying to set up a trade for him in your league by attempting to lower his value here; otherwise I'm pretty :confused:
You're confused by the truth? I don't follow. I'm a big fan, and don't own him in any leagues.
K. You're saying the truth is that it will "likely effect him later." Please explain. How long do collarbone injuries take to heal? Chance of it bothering him again? There is nothing to support your truth here. That's great that you don't own him and you are a big fan, it doesn't mean at all that you're not going to put out false information/conjecture.
 
Childress is a punching bag around here, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt about the timeshare thing. He is with the team every day -- we aren't. Peterson runs every carry like it's the last play of the Super Bowl. 100% effort all the time. Perhaps Childress knows that he would simply wear down carrying the ball 30 times, and in the end it would be counter-productive.

I'm willing to believe that AP is producing like this because Taylor keeps him fresh... not in spite of it.

He's done just fine the way things are. I see no reason to change anything.
That's not the main issue though most of us Vikes' fans have with the sharing. In the situations in which Taylor is put in there over AD. For some reason Taylor is in there in the pivotal points, or when the D seems softened, or for a long duration after AD has had a great series of runs. Ideally I'd like a 70-30 splits but wouldn't have a single gripe on a 55-45 split if it was done so wisely.
 
He's going to be special, but let's not get carried away here.

Let's hope he doesn't pull a Billy Sims.
Sims was a great back and that injury was really a freak occurrence. Peterson will be off the charts good if he can stay healthy but he has collarbone issues which will likely effect him later.
:confused: Why would this affect him later if it hasn't already? The injury was quite some time ago.
He's broken it twice, the last time in the 2007 Fiesta Bowl (Don't know if that's some time ago to you or not). He was supposed to get surgery to have a metal plate inserted to help it in the future but he decided against it. HTH.
Uhk. He wasn't supposed to have surgery. They considered surgery but decided against it. I'm pretty sure that if this was serious enough, they would have gone through with the surgery.Also, he broke his collarbone 12 months ago and re-aggravated it 10 months ago. That is a VERY long time for a collarbone injury.

He participated in off-season workouts, preseason, and he has had 96 carries + kickoff duties through 5 games. Does that sound like anyone is concerned about his injuries? The answer is no.

I hope you're trying to set up a trade for him in your league by attempting to lower his value here; otherwise I'm pretty :confused:
You're confused by the truth? I don't follow. I'm a big fan, and don't own him in any leagues.
K. You're saying the truth is that it will "likely effect him later." Please explain. How long do collarbone injuries take to heal? Chance of it bothering him again? There is nothing to support your truth here. That's great that you don't own him and you are a big fan, it doesn't mean at all that you're not going to put out false information/conjecture.
Wow man, you are really getting excited about this. Here is a link on shoulder injuries and rates of recurrence. Considering Peterson plays professional football I would imagine the chances of him re-injuring compared with say a computer guy who fell hiking, is much higher wouldn't you agree. Why would I want to spread false information anyway? Whatever, here is the Link
 
collarbones become stronger after being broken. If he reinjured the same clavicle it was probably because he never let it fully heal. After it heals the bone is thicker than before the fracture and more durable.

 
Baldinger said that before A-Pete tore up the Bears today. He stated it during his NFC Playbook show a few days ago on the NFL Network. I thought the statement was premature, if not a little absurd (Tomlinson, anyone?)... but the guy may be right. :hophead:
Just when I thought the hype couldn't get any greater for this guy, Baldy makes a ridiculous statement like this.How can people crown this guy after 5 games? It's way too soon to be comparing him to the upper tier of RBs.

 
Baldinger said that before A-Pete tore up the Bears today. He stated it during his NFC Playbook show a few days ago on the NFL Network. I thought the statement was premature, if not a little absurd (Tomlinson, anyone?)... but the guy may be right. :goodposting:
Just when I thought the hype couldn't get any greater for this guy, Baldy makes a ridiculous statement like this.How can people crown this guy after 5 games? It's way too soon to be comparing him to the upper tier of RBs.
LT must have watched the show. He has 3 TDs himself so far....
 
collarbones become stronger after being broken. If he reinjured the same clavicle it was probably because he never let it fully heal. After it heals the bone is thicker than before the fracture and more durable.
Interesting. I couldn't find that anywhere in the things I've been looking through. You wouldn't happen to know where I may read up on such a thing would you? Seriously, I broke mine a few years ago.
 
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Baldinger said that before A-Pete tore up the Bears today. He stated it during his NFC Playbook show a few days ago on the NFL Network. I thought the statement was premature, if not a little absurd (Tomlinson, anyone?)... but the guy may be right. :goodposting:
Just when I thought the hype couldn't get any greater for this guy, Baldy makes a ridiculous statement like this.How can people crown this guy after 5 games? It's way too soon to be comparing him to the upper tier of RBs.
He did it after 4 games, and that was his conclusion from watching a lot of game tape, NOT including this amazing game. He wasn't a fan of his before he came to the NFL, as he said he first noticed him when he had his long TD catch in the first game. He's not saying he's had the best NFL career -- he's just saying he's the best at his position.Not sure I'd agree with that yet as far as the all-around aspects of the position are concerned, but he's certainly one of the best talents at the position.

 
I've never been happier to have a guy in a dynasty league. I was too high on him to trade him before what he did today, there's no chance of it now

 
collarbones become stronger after being broken. If he reinjured the same clavicle it was probably because he never let it fully heal. After it heals the bone is thicker than before the fracture and more durable.
Interesting. I couldn't find that anywhere in the things I've been looking through. You wouldn't happen to know where I may read up on such a thing would you? Seriously, I broke mine a few years ago.
nope... no reference. This is what i was told by my orthopedist when i broke my clavicle about 10 years ago. My stepfather, who was a medic of somekind in the armed forces for awhile, said the same.
 
He's not even the best RB on his team. Surely Childress is smart enough to give his best back the majority of the carries, right? :goodposting:
The fact that the Vikes can win games tells me he knows what he's doing. They ran the ball 42 times today and I don't think any AP owner wants him getting all those carries. 20 carries a game is great for keeping him healthy and explosive.
 
He's not even the best RB on his team. Surely Childress is smart enough to give his best back the majority of the carries, right? :goodposting:
The fact that the Vikes can win games tells me he knows what he's doing. They ran the ball 42 times today and I don't think any AP owner wants him getting all those carries. 20 carries a game is great for keeping him healthy and explosive.
That's not the gripe here man. The gripe is the timing and situations those carries are divided up. It just doesn't make football sense to put the inferior back in when the "right" call is to run to maintain a lead. They blew the GB doing that and almost lost this game because of it. It's mind-boggling.
 
I feel he's ONLY eclipsed by LT2 in pure physical ability. And it's REALLY close. I believe barring injury (Anything can happen) he'll be a Hall of Famer RB.

He has EVERY physical attribute you want in a RB. And his pass catching ability is something that nobody knew he had.

I predict he finishes #2 in Fantasy this year and will be the CLEAR #2 RB in all pre-season rankings next year.

Even though Joe Thomas is playing GREAT for the Browns at Left Tackle, I STILL wish we would've taken Adrian at #3 back in April.

Imagine.....AD, Winslow, Braylon andAnderson throwing it around...... :rant:

 
Peterson is REALLY, REALLY good. I was mocked incessantly for trading LJ for the #1 pick in dynasty leagues, but as a between the tackles prospect, he's the best in a LONG LONG time.

 
The fact that he did what he did today as a rookie, on the road and against Chicago tells you all you need to know. He is special. Period.

The guys that turn out to be very special football players usually show you some flashes during their rookie season. AD has shown several already and today was the exclamation point.

I had the pleasure of starting him and LT today in a league (along with Braylon). I shattered the single game scoring record in a league that's been around for 7 years. Everytime I saw Minny had scored, I'd flip to that game to see another amazing hilite. It got surreal when San Diego starting rolling in the first quarter in the afternoon game...

 
i disagree with anything that comes outta Baldinger's mouth.

does he look really good? yes.

did he go bananas today? yup.

will he be a really good NFL back? looks that way.

but he's not the best RB in the NFL.

 
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Craig_MiamiFL said:
It was a great call by him. And he would be right.He should probably get a raise. AD had the single best performance in NFL history today.
how many people are gonna take the bait?
 
Stats on the year: 5 games, 96 carries, 607 yards, 6.32 yards per carry, 10 rec for 175 yards, 17.5 yards per reception, 782 total yards, 7.37 yards per touch, 5 TDs, 1 fumble.

 
I was at Soldier Field today and AD's performance was even better in person. As a Bears fan, every time the guy got around the end or into the second level, you held your breath hoping he wouldn't take it to the house. He is everything you'd want in a franchise back - natural elusiveness, patience, power, and speed. And he plays for a team that has to run the ball to win.

The only thing I can't figure out is why the guy doesn't play more. Catching a breather is one thing, but Taylor actually had more carries than AD in the game. Not that Taylor is a bad running back - he's OK and could probably start for half the teams in the league. But, AD is on another planet right now.

 
Too bad Hester couldn't have a one on one against Peterson.

Peterson was in another zone today.

He's not only the best RB going right now - he's got the most upside too.

Just think if Minny had a legit QB and receivers.

The Bears suck btw... I think last week's victory went to their head, and they almost pulled another victory out of their arses again today.

 
Peterson had a good day, but Minnesota's offensive line deserves a lot of credit. On all three TD runs they sprung him into the secondary. Of course, Peterson tore up the secondary once he got there, but the Oline deserves a nice assist on the day.

 
RAIDERNATION said:
Childress is a punching bag around here, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt about the timeshare thing. He is with the team every day -- we aren't. Peterson runs every carry like it's the last play of the Super Bowl. 100% effort all the time. Perhaps Childress knows that he would simply wear down carrying the ball 30 times, and in the end it would be counter-productive.

I'm willing to believe that AP is producing like this because Taylor keeps him fresh... not in spite of it.

He's done just fine the way things are. I see no reason to change anything.
Peterson routinely carried the ball 35 times a game in college and didn't look any slower, or even a hair between 100% on carry #35 in any of those games. He's a workhorse.
 
RAIDERNATION said:
Childress is a punching bag around here, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt about the timeshare thing. He is with the team every day -- we aren't. Peterson runs every carry like it's the last play of the Super Bowl. 100% effort all the time. Perhaps Childress knows that he would simply wear down carrying the ball 30 times, and in the end it would be counter-productive.

I'm willing to believe that AP is producing like this because Taylor keeps him fresh... not in spite of it.

He's done just fine the way things are. I see no reason to change anything.
Peterson routinely carried the ball 35 times a game in college and didn't look any slower, or even a hair between 100% on carry #35 in any of those games. He's a workhorse.
Chicago's defense is a tad more physical than Baylor's defense, though you couldn't tell from today's effort.
 

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