Brian Leonard traded to Bengals (1 Viewer)

[DynOmite]

I'm a Rutgers guy so I'm just hoping a change of scenery helps BL....

The Bengals also made a trade, sending defensive tackle Orien Harris to St. Louis in exchange for running back Brian Leonard

Cincinnati Enquirer

 

[QuizGuy66]

I'm a Rutgers guy so I'm just hoping a change of scenery helps BL....

The Bengals also made a trade, sending defensive tackle Orien Harris to St. Louis in exchange for running back Brian Leonard

Cincinnati Enquirer

I like this trade for my Who Deys. More competition at RB behind Benson is a good thing and to get somebody with Leonard's talent for a journeyman who was not really likely to make the roster seems like a no brainer -QG

 

[trader jake]

Leonard's value skyrockets.

Leonard now has some value.

 

[Couch Potato]

Leonard's value skyrockets.

Leonard now has some value.

It could mean nothing, it could mean a lot. This is the Bengals after all. Half their team is a strike away from suspension, including Benson. All that's behind him are 31 year old Watson, UDFAs, and a 6th round pick with a questionable past.

Though Leonard is technically a FB I guess, he played RB at Rutgers and was successful enough to be a 2nd rounder for the Rams. The fact that the Rams quit on him and buried him on their depth chart means little to me. They haven't exactly been the best judges of talent the last few years or they wouldn't be the mess of a team that they are.

And who knows, maybe Benson has something new going on in the conduct department the Bengals know about but we don't yet? I'm not trying to start a rumor, but you never know. Leonard might be worth a flier right now.

 

[Jason Wood]

Funny, I was just talking to my partner here at work about the Bengals and how Bernard Scott had value by default. Because realistically if Benson falters [snicker snicker], Scott was the only guy in line for carries and no one was talking about him. Guess this adds a bit of a wrinkle,

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Leonard had both shoulders operated on after year 1, a shoulder injury put him on IR in year 2, and I think he was supposed to have another operation.

It's sad because I think we'll never get to see what kind of player he could have been - with his playing style, he just can't have shoulders that pop in and out and frequently need surgery.

getting traded for Orien Harris is basically the equivalent of getting traded for a seventh and a half round pick.

 

[Matt Waldman]

The nice thing about Leonard is his versatility as a blocker-runner-receiver. The Bengals need more Carson Palmer-like players who will work hard and aren't screw ups. This likely has better football ramifications than fantasy value but he could find a niche in Cincy as a reliable third down guy in the way Larry Centers was a valuable player for the Cardinals in the 90s.

Because I thought coming out of Rutgers he had a chance to be more than a role player with the ball in his hands I am interested to see how this develops. He just might not have that initial quickness you need to be an NFL starter.

 

[Matt Waldman]

Leonard had both shoulders operated on after year 1, a shoulder injury put him on IR in year 2, and I think he was supposed to have another operation. It's sad because I think we'll never get to see what kind of player he could have been - with his playing style, he can just can't have shoulders that pop in and out and need surgery with regularity.getting traded for Orien Harris is basically the equivalent of getting traded for a seventh and a half round pick.

Makes sense...

 

[Couch Potato]

getting traded for Orien Harris is basically the equivalent of getting traded for a seventh and a half round pick.

So he's as valuable as Colston then. Cool.

 

[EBF]

I thought his potential as TB was vastly overrated coming out of college, but maybe he can contribute as a pass catching FB. I agree with Waldman that he's a good locker room guy. I wasn't aware of his durability issues though. He completely dropped off my radar after his rookie year. I almost forgot he exists.

 

[stevegamer]

The nice thing about Leonard is his versatility as a blocker-runner-receiver. The Bengals need more Carson Palmer-like players who will work hard and aren't screw ups. This likely has better football ramifications than fantasy value but he could find a niche in Cincy as a reliable third down guy in the way Larry Centers was a valuable player for the Cardinals in the 90s.

Because I thought coming out of Rutgers he had a chance to be more than a role player with the ball in his hands I am interested to see how this develops. He just might not have that initial quickness you need to be an NFL starter.

They countered this by getting Roy Williams.

 

[TheFanatic]

Leonard's value skyrockets.

Leonard now has some value.

It could mean nothing, it could mean a lot. This is the Bengals after all. Half their team is a strike away from suspension, including Benson. All that's behind him are 31 year old Watson, UDFAs, and a 6th round pick with a questionable past.

Though Leonard is technically a FB I guess, he played RB at Rutgers and was successful enough to be a 2nd rounder for the Rams. The fact that the Rams quit on him and buried him on their depth chart means little to me. They haven't exactly been the best judges of talent the last few years or they wouldn't be the mess of a team that they are.

And who knows, maybe Benson has something new going on in the conduct department the Bengals know about but we don't yet? I'm not trying to start a rumor, but you never know. Leonard might be worth a flier right now.

He gets drafted by the dysfunctional Rams and then a new regime takes over. New crew. New players. Hopefully he can make a fresh start in Cinci. He didn't have much opportunity to succeed here. If SJax is going to suck behind that line, how is BL going to excel. Now, who the hell backs up Jackson?

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

LOL at those rushing to pickup this stud.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Leonard's value skyrockets.

Leonard now has some value.

It could mean nothing, it could mean a lot. This is the Bengals after all. Half their team is a strike away from suspension, including Benson. All that's behind him are 31 year old Watson, UDFAs, and a 6th round pick with a questionable past.

Though Leonard is technically a FB I guess, he played RB at Rutgers and was successful enough to be a 2nd rounder for the Rams. The fact that the Rams quit on him and buried him on their depth chart means little to me. They haven't exactly been the best judges of talent the last few years or they wouldn't be the mess of a team that they are.

And who knows, maybe Benson has something new going on in the conduct department the Bengals know about but we don't yet? I'm not trying to start a rumor, but you never know. Leonard might be worth a flier right now.

He gets drafted by the dysfunctional Rams and then a new regime takes over. New crew. New players. Hopefully he can make a fresh start in Cinci. He didn't have much opportunity to succeed here. If SJax is going to suck behind that line, how is BL going to excel.

Now, who the hell backs up Jackson?

Hell, Leonard wasn't even the backup to Jackson last year.

 

[treat88]

If Leonard sees any appreciable action in the Bengals backfield this year, they are likely on their way to any even worse record than already projected.

It would take a worst case scenario unfolding to see him put up productive numbers.

 

[identikit]

LOL at those rushing to pickup this stud.

Kind of like drafting Chris Perry last year...

 

[lyon812]

Leonard's value skyrockets.

Leonard now has some value.

It could mean nothing, it could mean a lot. This is the Bengals after all. Half their team is a strike away from suspension, including Benson. All that's behind him are 31 year old Watson, UDFAs, and a 6th round pick with a questionable past.

Though Leonard is technically a FB I guess, he played RB at Rutgers and was successful enough to be a 2nd rounder for the Rams. The fact that the Rams quit on him and buried him on their depth chart means little to me. They haven't exactly been the best judges of talent the last few years or they wouldn't be the mess of a team that they are.

And who knows, maybe Benson has something new going on in the conduct department the Bengals know about but we don't yet? I'm not trying to start a rumor, but you never know. Leonard might be worth a flier right now.

He gets drafted by the dysfunctional Rams and then a new regime takes over. New crew. New players. Hopefully he can make a fresh start in Cinci. He didn't have much opportunity to succeed here. If SJax is going to suck behind that line, how is BL going to excel. Now, who the hell backs up Jackson?

Jackson didn't suck behind that line by any stretch. His fantasy points per game, at least in my leagues, were among league leaders.As far as backing him up, probably the same people that did last year: Pittman and Darby. Ogbannaya's in the mix too, and might be a better version of Leonard minus the durability issues.

 

[Thorpe]

Leonard's value skyrockets.

Leonard now has some value.

It could mean nothing, it could mean a lot. This is the Bengals after all. Half their team is a strike away from suspension, including Benson. All that's behind him are 31 year old Watson, UDFAs, and a 6th round pick with a questionable past.

Though Leonard is technically a FB I guess, he played RB at Rutgers and was successful enough to be a 2nd rounder for the Rams. The fact that the Rams quit on him and buried him on their depth chart means little to me. They haven't exactly been the best judges of talent the last few years or they wouldn't be the mess of a team that they are.

And who knows, maybe Benson has something new going on in the conduct department the Bengals know about but we don't yet? I'm not trying to start a rumor, but you never know. Leonard might be worth a flier right now.

Leonard was a FB at Rutgers. Ray Rice was the RB.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

getting traded for Orien Harris is basically the equivalent of getting traded for a seventh and a half round pick.

Amen, brother.If you can believe it, I've actually seen a discussion elsewhere where a Steeler fan is bemoaning the fact that the Bengals were "actually able to trade a guy that the Steelers flat out cut ties with!!! Why can't THEY trade those kind of guys and get something?!!?!?" three years after the fact. Ridiculous. Some people a just flipping unintelligent.This is basically a "nothing" for "a different flavor of nothing" trade.

 

[Biabreakable]

Steven Jackson has missed enough time for Leonard to show what he can do. He did start a few games and it wasn't pretty. Leonard got demoted and now traded based off of what he can do. I don't see much upside here.

I like Leonard and think he is a good reciever. But other than that and ST I don't see him helping the Bengals much.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Leonard's value skyrockets.

Leonard now has some value.

It could mean nothing, it could mean a lot. This is the Bengals after all. Half their team is a strike away from suspension, including Benson. All that's behind him are 31 year old Watson, UDFAs, and a 6th round pick with a questionable past.

Though Leonard is technically a FB I guess, he played RB at Rutgers and was successful enough to be a 2nd rounder for the Rams. The fact that the Rams quit on him and buried him on their depth chart means little to me. They haven't exactly been the best judges of talent the last few years or they wouldn't be the mess of a team that they are.

And who knows, maybe Benson has something new going on in the conduct department the Bengals know about but we don't yet? I'm not trying to start a rumor, but you never know. Leonard might be worth a flier right now.

Leonard was a FB at Rutgers. Ray Rice was the RB.

Actually both answers are correct. Leonard was a tailback before moving to FB in his senior year when Ray Rick became the starting RB. Leonard did this to help the team, which is one of the many reasons that they had such a huge season that year (going on a big undefeated run to start the season).Leonard had very interesting skills and versatility coming out of RU - but as mentioned earlier, the injuries have taken much of that away. In his first NFL season he did get a start or two but the circumstances weren't good (bad O-line and tough opposition, Vikings and Ravens IIRC) so he didn't show too much potential.

If he can get back to full strength and healthy, he could surprise - but he is a longshot to be sure. You have to like trades in May though just because a team wants a player enough to give SOMETHING for him, even if it is next to nothing. It could mean little or it could become the perfect scenario for him to showcase himself again.

 

[Bri]

**snipI like Leonard and think he is a good reciever. But other than that and ST I don't see him helping the Bengals much.

Leonard's "just a football player" that phrase draftniks often use when a QB just knows the game so well he can play a slew of positions....Leonard could too. NFL-wise I think he's a fabulous pickup for the Bengals. I wouldn't be overly surprised if that kid could play WR or LB or S or somesuch if they asked him to. I can't recall the Bengals FB situation. They had Johnson and Johnson back there not long ago at all but....can't recall.There's little doubt in my mind that if Leonard wants to and if his shoulders hold up, that he could be one of the better or more useful FBs.

 

[Biabreakable]

**snipI like Leonard and think he is a good reciever. But other than that and ST I don't see him helping the Bengals much.

Leonard's "just a football player" that phrase draftniks often use when a QB just knows the game so well he can play a slew of positions....Leonard could too. NFL-wise I think he's a fabulous pickup for the Bengals. I wouldn't be overly surprised if that kid could play WR or LB or S or somesuch if they asked him to. I can't recall the Bengals FB situation. They had Johnson and Johnson back there not long ago at all but....can't recall.There's little doubt in my mind that if Leonard wants to and if his shoulders hold up, that he could be one of the better or more useful FBs.

If that were the case I doubt the Rams, who want to run the ball more this year, would have traded him for a defensive back.

 

[Bri]

**snipI like Leonard and think he is a good reciever. But other than that and ST I don't see him helping the Bengals much.

Leonard's "just a football player" that phrase draftniks often use when a QB just knows the game so well he can play a slew of positions....Leonard could too. NFL-wise I think he's a fabulous pickup for the Bengals. I wouldn't be overly surprised if that kid could play WR or LB or S or somesuch if they asked him to. I can't recall the Bengals FB situation. They had Johnson and Johnson back there not long ago at all but....can't recall.There's little doubt in my mind that if Leonard wants to and if his shoulders hold up, that he could be one of the better or more useful FBs.

If that were the case I doubt the Rams, who want to run the ball more this year, would have traded him for a defensive back.

why?when you're building a team and not winning right now, why do you need a plethora of backs over depth at other positions?I'm all for contenders having 2-3-4 or (my wish) 8 runningbacks but Pittman is a good player and he can replace Jackson too. Darby had some moments in KC. Gado went from darling to next to nothing. I'm not sure that either of them are bad on a rebuilding team as the 3rd or 4th RB.The Rams only carry one FB which a couple years back worked out very well for the Giants as their starting FB fell into their lap. I guess the other point is-if you were spags how would you feel about the D there?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Leonard's value skyrockets.

Leonard now has some value.

It could mean nothing, it could mean a lot. This is the Bengals after all. Half their team is a strike away from suspension, including Benson. All that's behind him are 31 year old Watson, UDFAs, and a 6th round pick with a questionable past.

Though Leonard is technically a FB I guess, he played RB at Rutgers and was successful enough to be a 2nd rounder for the Rams. The fact that the Rams quit on him and buried him on their depth chart means little to me. They haven't exactly been the best judges of talent the last few years or they wouldn't be the mess of a team that they are.

And who knows, maybe Benson has something new going on in the conduct department the Bengals know about but we don't yet? I'm not trying to start a rumor, but you never know. Leonard might be worth a flier right now.

Leonard was a FB at Rutgers. Ray Rice was the RB.

Only during his senior year where he volunteered to move to FB to get Rice on the field more. The three prior years has was a fairly effective half back.

 

[•TheRealMcCoy]

Leonard's value skyrockets.

Leonard now has some value.

It could mean nothing, it could mean a lot. This is the Bengals after all. Half their team is a strike away from suspension, including Benson. All that's behind him are 31 year old Watson, UDFAs, and a 6th round pick with a questionable past.

Though Leonard is technically a FB I guess, he played RB at Rutgers and was successful enough to be a 2nd rounder for the Rams. The fact that the Rams quit on him and buried him on their depth chart means little to me. They haven't exactly been the best judges of talent the last few years or they wouldn't be the mess of a team that they are.

And who knows, maybe Benson has something new going on in the conduct department the Bengals know about but we don't yet? I'm not trying to start a rumor, but you never know. Leonard might be worth a flier right now.

He gets drafted by the dysfunctional Rams and then a new regime takes over. New crew. New players. Hopefully he can make a fresh start in Cinci. He didn't have much opportunity to succeed here. If SJax is going to suck behind that line, how is BL going to excel. Now, who the hell backs up Jackson?

I say Obaganayya?Unless they go out and get a free agent before opening day?

 

[super sleeper]

**snipI like Leonard and think he is a good reciever. But other than that and ST I don't see him helping the Bengals much.

Leonard's "just a football player" that phrase draftniks often use when a QB just knows the game so well he can play a slew of positions....Leonard could too. NFL-wise I think he's a fabulous pickup for the Bengals. I wouldn't be overly surprised if that kid could play WR or LB or S or somesuch if they asked him to. I can't recall the Bengals FB situation. They had Johnson and Johnson back there not long ago at all but....can't recall.There's little doubt in my mind that if Leonard wants to and if his shoulders hold up, that he could be one of the better or more useful FBs.

Leonard was recruited as a LB because of his versatility, but when he arrived at Rutgers, was given a choice to play offense or defense. Look, the bottom line here is that St. Louis was a terrible spot for him to land. He was never utilized properly, and he got banged up. According to most reports, his shoulders are now 100%. Given the opportunity to be a 3rd down/H-back type of player, he could really help the Bengals. But I wouldn't expect him to ever be the lead back. One of the things that Rutgers guys (of which I'm one of ) sometimes forget, is that even at Rutgers, when he was very successful as a tailback, the team was always looking to replace him (or complement him, if you will). He's a hard worker, doesn't fumble, always gets positive yardage. But despite his athleticism, he lacks the explosiveness to be a lead back. His ceiling is really 3rd down/GL right now.

 

[ozark]

Leonard's value skyrockets.

Leonard now has some value.

It could mean nothing, it could mean a lot. This is the Bengals after all. Half their team is a strike away from suspension, including Benson. All that's behind him are 31 year old Watson, UDFAs, and a 6th round pick with a questionable past.

Though Leonard is technically a FB I guess, he played RB at Rutgers and was successful enough to be a 2nd rounder for the Rams. The fact that the Rams quit on him and buried him on their depth chart means little to me. They haven't exactly been the best judges of talent the last few years or they wouldn't be the mess of a team that they are.

And who knows, maybe Benson has something new going on in the conduct department the Bengals know about but we don't yet? I'm not trying to start a rumor, but you never know. Leonard might be worth a flier right now.

Leonard was a FB at Rutgers. Ray Rice was the RB.

Actually both answers are correct. Leonard was a tailback before moving to FB in his senior year when Ray Rick became the starting RB. Leonard did this to help the team, which is one of the many reasons that they had such a huge season that year (going on a big undefeated run to start the season).Leonard had very interesting skills and versatility coming out of RU - but as mentioned earlier, the injuries have taken much of that away. In his first NFL season he did get a start or two but the circumstances weren't good (bad O-line and tough opposition, Vikings and Ravens IIRC) so he didn't show too much potential.

If he can get back to full strength and healthy, he could surprise - but he is a longshot to be sure. You have to like trades in May though just because a team wants a player enough to give SOMETHING for him, even if it is next to nothing. It could mean little or it could become the perfect scenario for him to showcase himself again.

Right on; Nice guy here in St. Louis and if nothing else, would a a touch of 'Class' to the locker room. Help in FF, none.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Ray Rice is a Raven and Brian Leonard is a Bengal. I'm going to go throw up now.

EG72

Rutgers College '93

 

[TS Garp]

Leonard played the better part of 5 games in 2007 and had one good game but didn't show much beyond that and looked overmatched. That said, he's still only 25 and a hard worker, so there's some upside, but he's almost certainly one of those guys who will be more valuable in real NFL terms than in fantasy. He's someone to keep an eye on, especially in PPR leagues, but I don't see him having any sustained success as a featured back.

 

[Boone22]

Ray Rice is a Raven and Brian Leonard is a Bengal. I'm going to go throw up now.EG72Rutgers College '93

I agree...Boone22Cook College '92