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[On The Rocks]

For some reason I have been unable to link articles today, but if you go to:

(if someone else would link it and copy, that would be )

www.buffalobills.com

The front page article is on Leonard. It mentions that he is down to 226 lbs from from 238 lbs.

Is he hurting his draft stock?

Is he a good fit in the NFL as a HB?

ETA: Link and story from BB.com

Leonard The Epitome Of Team Player

In an era where college players are keen to improving their draft stock, particularly in their senior season, Rutgers fullback Brian Leonard is an exception to the rule. After three straight 1,250 all-purpose yard seasons for the Scarlet Knights Leonard would be facing a position change and a reduced workload as a senior.

Talented tailback Ray Rice was a player head coach Greg Schiano wanted on the field more, so Leonard was moved to fullback and would not have the carries he received the previous three seasons. After weighing things Leonard chose to return for his senior season and credited his backfield mate for helping to make his position change an easy one.

"It made it a lot easier for me because Ray Rice is not just a heck of a running back, he's also a heck of a guy," said Leonard. "Yes, I was the star running back for three years, but I embraced my role as the fullback. Making a block for Ray felt just as good as scoring an 80-yard touchdown."

And the magical season enjoyed by the Scarlet Knights made it all worth it in Leonard's eyes as they started 9-0 and went to triple overtime before missing out on the Big East championship.

Now able to focus on his future career Leonard dropped the weight he gained to play fullback. Down to 226 pounds from 238, Leonard ran a very respectable 4.52 40-time. More important than his speed is the vast array of skills Leonard brings to the field. Put simply he's far more than just a blocking fullback.

"If a team needs me to be a straight-ahead blocking fullback, then that's what I'll do," said Leonard. "I don't feel that using me that way would be getting the best out of me, but if the team wants me to do that, I'll do it. I think I'm at my best though when I get out in the flat, get the ball in my hands and make some people miss."

Leonard made several defenders miss in his time at Rutgers. He even had a trademark maneuver to avoid oncoming defenders.

"He's got that Leonard leap," said Leonard's former teammate and current Bills defensive end Ryan Neill. "He jumps over guys that try to cut him in the open field."

The most memorable play Neill witnessed by Leonard happened his senior year.

"We were playing Illinois and he got the ball on a screen pass and the safety went low on him and he just jumped over him, the guy didn't even touch him," Neill recalled. "Then the cornerback had the pursuit angle, but he outran the corner down the field 85 yards for a touchdown. I'm sitting on the bench and I saw the whole thing. When I saw him outrun the corner I said, 'This guy is the real deal.'"

At first glance Leonard doesn't look the part of an NFL back, and even the upperclassmen at Rutgers didn't think much of him when he played on the scout team as a true freshman.

"He was a little small so we were wondering about him and he didn't look fast," said Neill. "As the year went on his redshirt freshman year the team started realizing that he could play. After his redshirt year he started playing and since they started giving him the ball he's been doing stuff."

Leonard does just about anything on the field. Though he's a natural runner, he excels in the passing game. He set a Big East conference record with 207 career receptions.

"I think I'm the kind of player that can stay on the field from first to fourth down," said Leonard. "I can run the ball, catch it, block and pass block. Whatever they need me to do. I think I'm able to handle a full workload."

A lot of personnel evaluators don't see him as a true feature back though there are a few that believe he could thrive in a one back set. However, with the increase of two backs sharing the load for teams in the league Leonard figures to find an NFL home pretty easily.

He's forecast to be a late second or early third round pick.

Leonard's character and intangibles have already been recognized at the college level as he was presented with the Draddy Trophy. Known as the "academic" Heisman it recognizes an individual with the best combination of academic success, football performance and exemplary community leadership.

He was also given Rutgers' Paul Robeson award, presented to the player whose performance, leadership, and dedication on and off the field during his career has had the greatest impact on Rutgers Football.

Leonard leaves Rutgers similar to the way he ended his high school career in upstate New York as the Scarlet Knights all-time leader in all-purpose yardage (5,961) and touchdowns (45).

At Governeur high school (near Watertown) in the state's northern tier, Leonard finished as New York's all-time leading scorer with 696 points and 107 touchdowns while rushing for 5,854 yards.

"I think I'm very versatile," said Leonard. "I really don't think there are any limits on my game."

"He doesn't look like he's built for speed, but he can run," said Neill. "He wants to catch the ball and I think anybody that takes him would be smart enough to throw it to him. I wouldn't mind seeing him up here in Buffalo."

Chances are Bills fans wouldn't mind either.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

HALFBACK - and I dont really think its a question at this point.

He is not hurting his draft stock at all - it gives him more versatility, and OC worth his salary will find ways to use him that add dimensions to the offense.

I dont think its correct to ask if he'll be a good fit at HB simply because Leonard is the type of player that will create his own mold - there just arent many like him. He's not even close to the same echelon of talent as Reggie Bush, but it's a similar situation - The Saints created a role in the offense to fit Bush's skills. Thats what will happen with Leonard (and our boy Lorenzo Booker)

 

[FTRWRTR]

HALFBACK - and I dont really think its a question at this point.

Like bloom said leonard will be a rb. Losing the weight didn't affect him at all.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Here is some info from the Andy Hart, New England Patriots website:

I do think the Patriots will consider drafting a potential backup running back in the draft. Leonard is a very versatile player (fullback, tailback, receiver, special teams, pass catcher), is a team-first guy and will likely have a successful pro career doing a lot of different things for whichever team drafts him. That said he’s likely going to get called a bit earlier than I think he should on draft weekend. If you can get a guy like Leonard in the third round I love the pick. Much earlier than that on the first day of the draft and I think it’s too high for the type of versatile but not starting caliber pro that I believe he’s going to be.

Andy Hart

 

[Aaronstory]

The guy is the prototype for the kind of player the Patriots have coveted. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see them take him in Round One.

 

[Christo]

The guy is the prototype for the kind of player the Patriots have coveted. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see them take him in Round One.

And then play him at LB.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Leonard can play HB, FB, or even a Chris Cooley-style H-back. I think it's that versatility, along with his character, team-first mentality, and work ethic that makes him valuable, more so than a dazzling 40 time or obscene college stats (though his are pretty damned good considering he voluntarily acquiesced most of his carries to Ray Rice this year.) He's an ideal fit in Pittsburgh, New England, or any other franchise that places a high importance on character.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

For some reason I have been unable to link articles today, but if you go to:(if someone else would link it and copy, that would be )www.buffalobills.com The front page article is on Leonard. It mentions that he is down to 226 lbs from from 238 lbs.Is he hurting his draft stock? Is he a good fit in the NFL as a HB?

Leonard is at Top 5 RB on many draft boards right now.He was 238 in his bowl game (Texas Bowl vs. Kansas State) but slimmed down to 224 for the Combine.He had outstanding numbers there (4.52 40, 28 reps, 34.5 vert, 10'2" broad jump, 6.88 3 cone), besting all RBs at the weight lifting and posting a top 40 time.He has great pass-catching abilities out of the backfield, but was put on hold last year so that Rice could get (much) more work for the best of the team. It worked. Leonard is an excellent athlete and player and also, more importantly, has the right mindset and character to be a team player. Now, as a fantasy football guy, he won't be a stud unfortunately. I don't know that he will be given a shot as "the man" in the backfield, but could easily fill a 3rd down RB role or a HB type guy such as Cooley.That's the part that troubles me - I can't find a good comparative player. Cooley? He's a better runner. Alstott? Leonard has slimmed down and is a better receiver. Whatever role he carves out in the NFL, he'll be a big asset to that team. I just don't know about his fantasy numbers.

 

[Englishteacher]

From what I've read he carries pretty good value as a potential goal line back. Put that together with some production in other capacities and I think he'll be a viable RB3 at least.

 

[trader jake]

That's the part that troubles me - I can't find a good comparative player. Cooley? He's a better runner. Alstott? Leonard has slimmed down and is a better receiver.

Compare him to someone that isn't white then. He reminds me of Najeh Davenport when he came out of Miami. Both played FB in college, have an excellent skill set, and projected more toward HB than FB in the NFL. Najeh entered the NFL with injury concerns and never slimmed down enough to increase his shiftiness (and avoid some of those hits/injuries) but he is still a solid RB and has been a decent kickoff return guy as well. Leonard's upside may be a bit higher than Davenport's because he has already lost some weight, seems a bit more grounded, and he's already proven to be a true team player...but their relative skillsets are similar entering the NFL.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

That's the part that troubles me - I can't find a good comparative player. Cooley? He's a better runner. Alstott? Leonard has slimmed down and is a better receiver.

Compare him to someone that isn't white then. He reminds me of Najeh Davenport when he came out of Miami. Both played FB in college, have an excellent skill set, and projected more toward HB than FB in the NFL. Najeh entered the NFL with injury concerns and never slimmed down enough to increase his shiftiness (and avoid some of those hits/injuries) but he is still a solid RB and has been a decent kickoff return guy as well. Leonard's upside may be a bit higher than Davenport's because he has already lost some weight, seems a bit more grounded, and he's already proven to be a true team player...but their relative skillsets are similar entering the NFL.

Has he ever pooped in someone's closet?

 

[stevegamer]

Leonard can play HB, FB, or even a Chris Cooley-style H-back. I think it's that versatility, along with his character, team-first mentality, and work ethic that makes him valuable, more so than a dazzling 40 time or obscene college stats (though his are pretty damned good considering he voluntarily acquiesced most of his carries to Ray Rice this year.) He's an ideal fit in Pittsburgh, New England, or any other franchise that places a high importance on character.

Okay, not that we've knocked the Bengals & Raiders off the list - who drafts him? I'm thinking he's a second round pick by someone who wants a versatile back.I see the Eagles as a good fit.

 

[Aaronstory]

The guy is the prototype for the kind of player the Patriots have coveted. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see them take him in Round One.

And then play him at LB.

 

[Bri]

He reminds me of Mike Anderson when I read about him.

As you know Mike has been the main RB, due to injury to the starter at first. He's been featured in single back sets, played fullback, and been the GL back at times.

FWIW the feedback I'm getting is that's a pretty fair comparison.

 

[tex]

Leonard can play HB, FB, or even a Chris Cooley-style H-back. I think it's that versatility, along with his character, team-first mentality, and work ethic that makes him valuable, more so than a dazzling 40 time or obscene college stats (though his are pretty damned good considering he voluntarily acquiesced most of his carries to Ray Rice this year.) He's an ideal fit in Pittsburgh, New England, or any other franchise that places a high importance on character.

Okay, not that we've knocked the Bengals & Raiders off the list - who drafts him? I'm thinking he's a second round pick by someone who wants a versatile back.I see the Eagles as a good fit.

He's a perfect fit for the Pats. If there were a picture in the dictionary of "team player" it would be Brian Leonard. And even if it's a little early, the Pats will take him with 1 of their 2 1st rounders.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Leonard can play HB, FB, or even a Chris Cooley-style H-back. I think it's that versatility, along with his character, team-first mentality, and work ethic that makes him valuable, more so than a dazzling 40 time or obscene college stats (though his are pretty damned good considering he voluntarily acquiesced most of his carries to Ray Rice this year.) He's an ideal fit in Pittsburgh, New England, or any other franchise that places a high importance on character.

Okay, not that we've knocked the Bengals & Raiders off the list - who drafts him? I'm thinking he's a second round pick by someone who wants a versatile back.I see the Eagles as a good fit.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I find it hard to mock without giving him to either the Pats or Eagles.

 

[prymetyme25]

I find it hard to mock without giving him to either the Pats or Eagles.

actually I could see him going to the Falcons in the second. Leonard/Norwood would offer a nice combo and would compliment each other great. Assuming Dunn gets cut.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I find it hard to mock without giving him to either the Pats or Eagles.

actually I could see him going to the Falcons in the second. Leonard/Norwood would offer a nice combo and would compliment each other great. Assuming Dunn gets cut.

What would make you think they would cut Dunn?

 

[prymetyme25]

I find it hard to mock without giving him to either the Pats or Eagles.

actually I could see him going to the Falcons in the second. Leonard/Norwood would offer a nice combo and would compliment each other great. Assuming Dunn gets cut.

What would make you think they would cut Dunn?

Read reports that he has a high cap number and supposedly Petrino want a power runner. Not that I believe that but most on this board think this is certain.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I find it hard to mock without giving him to either the Pats or Eagles.

actually I could see him going to the Falcons in the second. Leonard/Norwood would offer a nice combo and would compliment each other great. Assuming Dunn gets cut.

What would make you think they would cut Dunn?

Read reports that he has a high cap number and supposedly Petrino want a power runner. Not that I believe that but most on this board think this is certain.

I'm calling on that one.Dunn's 31.

Contract InfoDunn signed a six year, $28.5 million contract with Atlanta in March 2002. Dunn restructured his contract in March of 2005 to help create salary cap space, agreeing to accept $2.35 million of his $3 million salary in the form of a paid bonus, which will save the Falcons more than $1.5 million in cap space. Dunn signed a one-year extension to stay with the Falcons through the 2007 season in April of 2006.

His current salary on NFLPA is $3.25M and $4M in 08, so any signing bonus he got in 2002 would be accelerated to this year.I don't buy this story. I can see this year being his last, but I'm not buying a cut.

 

[wannabee]

I find it hard to mock without giving him to either the Pats or Eagles.

actually I could see him going to the Falcons in the second. Leonard/Norwood would offer a nice combo and would compliment each other great. Assuming Dunn gets cut.

What would make you think they would cut Dunn?

Read reports that he has a high cap number and supposedly Petrino want a power runner. Not that I believe that but most on this board think this is certain.

I'm calling on that one.Dunn's 31.

Contract Info

Dunn signed a six year, $28.5 million contract with Atlanta in March 2002. Dunn restructured his contract in March of 2005 to help create salary cap space, agreeing to accept $2.35 million of his $3 million salary in the form of a paid bonus, which will save the Falcons more than $1.5 million in cap space. Dunn signed a one-year extension to stay with the Falcons through the 2007 season in April of 2006.

His current salary on NFLPA is $3.25M and $4M in 08, so any signing bonus he got in 2002 would be accelerated to this year.I don't buy this story. I can see this year being his last, but I'm not buying a cut.

from what I could find:Warrick Dunn-RB- Falcons Feb. 1 - 8:35 am et

The Falcons are expected to utilize a power running game going forward.

The switch from zone blocking will require getting rid of the team's smaller linemen and almost certainly adding a power back in the draft. GM Rich McKay has said that Warrick Dunn, currently rehabbing from shoulder surgery, will be retained, but his role for 2007 is in doubt.

Source: Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Related: Jerious Norwood

Warrick Dunn-RB- Falcons Jan. 17 - 8:49 pm et

The Associated Press reports that Warrick Dunn underwent shoulder surgery Wednesday.

It's an arthroscopic surgery, but it will take "several months" before Dunn is ready for football activities. The Falcons have previously said they will retain Dunn this off-season, although we suspect he may be in a third-down role next season. The Falcons could turn to Jerious Norwood, but may add talent.

 

[RC94]

The only thing he has in common with Davenport is that they are both big for a RB. Otherwise, they have pretty much nothing in common. People shouldn't try to compare him with any one player. His skill set, versatility and attitude/character make him pretty unique and therefore not really comparable to any one player.

The crack about him being drafted by NE and playing LB isn't as far off as some might think. He was a LB coming out of high school and was moved to HB/FB due to team needs and due to the fact that he showed a strong aptitude for RB. I could see him playing a little LB, kind of like how Troy Brown played CB, if the team really needed him to. Yet another reason why it's so hard to compare him with any one player, and yet another reason why he is a good fit for NE.

NE will probably have to grab him in the 1st round if they are going to draft him, though. Either that or they will have to move up in the 2nd because I don't see him getting past PHI or DEN if he falls to the 2nd round. That said, if he falls to the 2nd, I can see any number of teams targeting him, not just the ones mentioned here.

As people have said, his fantasy impact is probably not going to be as significant as his NFL impact. PPR leagues will probably be the most favorable for him as far as fantasy impact is concerned.

 

[Warpig]

The only thing he has in common with Davenport is that they are both big for a RB. Otherwise, they have pretty much nothing in common. People shouldn't try to compare him with any one player. His skill set, versatility and attitude/character make him pretty unique and therefore not really comparable to any one player.The crack about him being drafted by NE and playing LB isn't as far off as some might think. He was a LB coming out of high school and was moved to HB/FB due to team needs and due to the fact that he showed a strong aptitude for RB. I could see him playing a little LB, kind of like how Troy Brown played CB, if the team really needed him to. Yet another reason why it's so hard to compare him with any one player, and yet another reason why he is a good fit for NE.NE will probably have to grab him in the 1st round if they are going to draft him, though. Either that or they will have to move up in the 2nd because I don't see him getting past PHI or DEN if he falls to the 2nd round. That said, if he falls to the 2nd, I can see any number of teams targeting him, not just the ones mentioned here.As people have said, his fantasy impact is probably not going to be as significant as his NFL impact. PPR leagues will probably be the most favorable for him as far as fantasy impact is concerned.

I'm fairly confident there have been alot of High School LB's end up playing RB as well. LB's and RB's are usually your most athletic players so it makes sense. (FWIW, I played LB and RB in school as well)As far as Leonard's pro prospects I think it's a shame that he probably won't get serious consideration as a fulltime HB in the NFL...due to his skin color.Seriously, the guy is strong, good hands, somewhat shifty, able to gain yards after contact, team player...he can do it all! Why wouldn't teams be leapfrogging each other to get this guy? Oh wait...he's white and therefore not as athletic as a black RB would be (stereotype).I'm just confused as to what the hold up is. He has 1st round talent right? But would only be considered value in the 3rd round? I have a friend that played college football at NWMS and put up some sick #'s as a white RB at the small program level. He said he went to the NFL combine they had in the early 90's in Detroit I think it was. He said he put up some numbers that were "eye-opening". He said he was pulled aside by one of the conditioning coaches (a black guy) at the combine and was told: "Son, how many white RB's do you see in the NFL?"He said that broke his spirit and he ended up driving back home to Missouri after that.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Brian Leonard - New England Patriots

book it, Dano.

 

[RC94]

The only thing he has in common with Davenport is that they are both big for a RB. Otherwise, they have pretty much nothing in common. People shouldn't try to compare him with any one player. His skill set, versatility and attitude/character make him pretty unique and therefore not really comparable to any one player.The crack about him being drafted by NE and playing LB isn't as far off as some might think. He was a LB coming out of high school and was moved to HB/FB due to team needs and due to the fact that he showed a strong aptitude for RB. I could see him playing a little LB, kind of like how Troy Brown played CB, if the team really needed him to. Yet another reason why it's so hard to compare him with any one player, and yet another reason why he is a good fit for NE.NE will probably have to grab him in the 1st round if they are going to draft him, though. Either that or they will have to move up in the 2nd because I don't see him getting past PHI or DEN if he falls to the 2nd round. That said, if he falls to the 2nd, I can see any number of teams targeting him, not just the ones mentioned here.As people have said, his fantasy impact is probably not going to be as significant as his NFL impact. PPR leagues will probably be the most favorable for him as far as fantasy impact is concerned.

I'm fairly confident there have been alot of High School LB's end up playing RB as well. LB's and RB's are usually your most athletic players so it makes sense. (FWIW, I played LB and RB in school as well)As far as Leonard's pro prospects I think it's a shame that he probably won't get serious consideration as a fulltime HB in the NFL...due to his skin color.Seriously, the guy is strong, good hands, somewhat shifty, able to gain yards after contact, team player...he can do it all! Why wouldn't teams be leapfrogging each other to get this guy? Oh wait...he's white and therefore not as athletic as a black RB would be (stereotype).I'm just confused as to what the hold up is. He has 1st round talent right? But would only be considered value in the 3rd round? I have a friend that played college football at NWMS and put up some sick #'s as a white RB at the small program level. He said he went to the NFL combine they had in the early 90's in Detroit I think it was. He said he put up some numbers that were "eye-opening". He said he was pulled aside by one of the conditioning coaches (a black guy) at the combine and was told: "Son, how many white RB's do you see in the NFL?"He said that broke his spirit and he ended up driving back home to Missouri after that.

I know he isn't the only player to switch positions after high school and I never said he was. Rutgers actually recruits a lot of LBs and moves them to other positions for the exact reason you mentioned - they tend to be very athletic, but some can also put on weight and become a DE, some can move to RB or some can lose a little weight and move to safety, etc. I was simply addressed a specific comment made about him earlier in the thread and pointing out that he has experience at LB. Also, he has the ability and attitude to make a switch if asked to. A lot of guys would complain and resist something like that.As far as him being white holding him back, I haven't heard that about him at all. Just because there are no white RBs in the NFL doesn't mean there can't be at some point. Unlike your friend, and probably a lot of other people, if someone had said something like that to Leonard he would just be more motivated and work even harder to dispel any illusions that he can't handle the job due to the color of his skin. This is one of his main strengths and has been talked about a lot by a lot of people.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

The only thing he has in common with Davenport is that they are both big for a RB. Otherwise, they have pretty much nothing in common. People shouldn't try to compare him with any one player. His skill set, versatility and attitude/character make him pretty unique and therefore not really comparable to any one player.The crack about him being drafted by NE and playing LB isn't as far off as some might think. He was a LB coming out of high school and was moved to HB/FB due to team needs and due to the fact that he showed a strong aptitude for RB. I could see him playing a little LB, kind of like how Troy Brown played CB, if the team really needed him to. Yet another reason why it's so hard to compare him with any one player, and yet another reason why he is a good fit for NE.NE will probably have to grab him in the 1st round if they are going to draft him, though. Either that or they will have to move up in the 2nd because I don't see him getting past PHI or DEN if he falls to the 2nd round. That said, if he falls to the 2nd, I can see any number of teams targeting him, not just the ones mentioned here.As people have said, his fantasy impact is probably not going to be as significant as his NFL impact. PPR leagues will probably be the most favorable for him as far as fantasy impact is concerned.

I'm fairly confident there have been alot of High School LB's end up playing RB as well. LB's and RB's are usually your most athletic players so it makes sense. (FWIW, I played LB and RB in school as well)As far as Leonard's pro prospects I think it's a shame that he probably won't get serious consideration as a fulltime HB in the NFL...due to his skin color.Seriously, the guy is strong, good hands, somewhat shifty, able to gain yards after contact, team player...he can do it all! Why wouldn't teams be leapfrogging each other to get this guy? Oh wait...he's white and therefore not as athletic as a black RB would be (stereotype).I'm just confused as to what the hold up is. He has 1st round talent right? But would only be considered value in the 3rd round? I have a friend that played college football at NWMS and put up some sick #'s as a white RB at the small program level. He said he went to the NFL combine they had in the early 90's in Detroit I think it was. He said he put up some numbers that were "eye-opening". He said he was pulled aside by one of the conditioning coaches (a black guy) at the combine and was told: "Son, how many white RB's do you see in the NFL?"He said that broke his spirit and he ended up driving back home to Missouri after that.

In all due respect, you're reaching here. I don't think anyone is discounting Leonard's stock because he's white. In fact, I would expect that we will indeed see teams leapfrogging each other to get Leonard if he falls very far into the 2nd round. As far as him not getting consideration as a feature back, I think that has more to with his versatility and the fact that few teams have a true feature back now than the melanin content of his skin. If any NFL scouts/front office types are lazy enough to let bigoted aphorisms do their scouting for them, I doubt they will have a job for very long.

 

[super sleeper]

As some have said, it is difficult to compare Leonard to anyone based on just his physical size or measurables, because he brings such intangibles. But the best physical comparison to Leonard is probably Anthony Thomas. Both are 6-2, 225, although Leonard has played bigger. Both ran their 40s in the 4.5 range and are considered straight-ahead runners that can shake off tacklers but won't make many miss. Both have good hands and can be utilized very effectively in the passing game. Of course, Leonard was a much more productive receiver than Thomas in college, but at Rutgers, he was the main offensive weapon for his first two years and split time with Ray Rice his junior year before stepping aside to play FB last year.

As with Thomas, his effectiveness and fantasy productivity will be greatly determined by who drafts him. I'm leaning towards him going to NE in the first round, but if he gets by them, I think he could go anywhere. I don't think he lasts to 57 for the Eagles to wait until the 2nd. I think Atlanta, Pitt, and Cincy are some of the teams that could grab him if he falls.

 

[JAA]

For some reason I have been unable to link articles today, but if you go to:(if someone else would link it and copy, that would be )www.buffalobills.com The front page article is on Leonard. It mentions that he is down to 226 lbs from from 238 lbs.Is he hurting his draft stock? Is he a good fit in the NFL as a HB?

Leonard is at Top 5 RB on many draft boards right now.He was 238 in his bowl game (Texas Bowl vs. Kansas State) but slimmed down to 224 for the Combine.He had outstanding numbers there (4.52 40, 28 reps, 34.5 vert, 10'2" broad jump, 6.88 3 cone), besting all RBs at the weight lifting and posting a top 40 time.He has great pass-catching abilities out of the backfield, but was put on hold last year so that Rice could get (much) more work for the best of the team. It worked. Leonard is an excellent athlete and player and also, more importantly, has the right mindset and character to be a team player. Now, as a fantasy football guy, he won't be a stud unfortunately. I don't know that he will be given a shot as "the man" in the backfield, but could easily fill a 3rd down RB role or a HB type guy such as Cooley.That's the part that troubles me - I can't find a good comparative player. Cooley? He's a better runner. Alstott? Leonard has slimmed down and is a better receiver. Whatever role he carves out in the NFL, he'll be a big asset to that team. I just don't know about his fantasy numbers.

Rich mans Kevin Faulk

 

[Two Deep]

As some have said, it is difficult to compare Leonard to anyone based on just his physical size or measurables, because he brings such intangibles. But the best physical comparison to Leonard is probably Anthony Thomas. Both are 6-2, 225, although Leonard has played bigger. Both ran their 40s in the 4.5 range and are considered straight-ahead runners that can shake off tacklers but won't make many miss. Both have good hands and can be utilized very effectively in the passing game. Of course, Leonard was a much more productive receiver than Thomas in college, but at Rutgers, he was the main offensive weapon for his first two years and split time with Ray Rice his junior year before stepping aside to play FB last year.As with Thomas, his effectiveness and fantasy productivity will be greatly determined by who drafts him. I'm leaning towards him going to NE in the first round, but if he gets by them, I think he could go anywhere. I don't think he lasts to 57 for the Eagles to wait until the 2nd. I think Atlanta, Pitt, and Cincy are some of the teams that could grab him if he falls.

go to youtube and watch him make the tacklers miss.

 

[David Yudkin]

Brian Leonard - New England Patriotsbook it, Dano.

While I agree that Leonard is the type of player that the Pats look for in terms of versatility, image, and team first philosophy, I have a very hard time thinking that they would burn first round picks in back-to-back years on RBs, especially when Leonard would mostly serve as a backup, the team has much more pressing needs, and is in position to win this year.Add to that that the team signed three WR, a RB, and a TE as free agents, the age and health of some key defenders. and the team drafting 7 offensive players last draft and I think they go defense/defense with their first round picks.

 

[Aaronstory]

Brian Leonard - New England Patriots

book it, Dano.

While I agree that Leonard is the type of player that the Pats look for in terms of versatility, image, and team first philosophy, I have a very hard time thinking that they would burn first round picks in back-to-back years on RBs, especially when Leonard would mostly serve as a backup, the team has much more pressing needs, and is in position to win this year.

Depending on Maroney's health, RB could be one of these. (I know reports say he'll be fine, but when dealing w/the Patriots and injury status, it's best to remain dubious)

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Brian Leonard - New England Patriots

book it, Dano.

While I agree that Leonard is the type of player that the Pats look for in terms of versatility, image, and team first philosophy, I have a very hard time thinking that they would burn first round picks in back-to-back years on RBs, especially when Leonard would mostly serve as a backup, the team has much more pressing needs, and is in position to win this year.

Depending on Maroney's health, RB could be one of these. (I know reports say he'll be fine, but when dealing w/the Patriots and injury status, it's best to remain dubious)

I also think NE is concerned about Maroney's future potential.Leonard would be a nice addition. I also think NE wil go

def/def with their 1st 2 picks.

Jarvis Moss, Eric Weddle are currently my picks for NE in the first.

I think the Pats may try to trade up to the 2nd round to grab Leonard.

I'm not sure if Leonard will drop into the mid-second round, so they may lose him.

 

[super sleeper]

As some have said, it is difficult to compare Leonard to anyone based on just his physical size or measurables, because he brings such intangibles. But the best physical comparison to Leonard is probably Anthony Thomas. Both are 6-2, 225, although Leonard has played bigger. Both ran their 40s in the 4.5 range and are considered straight-ahead runners that can shake off tacklers but won't make many miss. Both have good hands and can be utilized very effectively in the passing game. Of course, Leonard was a much more productive receiver than Thomas in college, but at Rutgers, he was the main offensive weapon for his first two years and split time with Ray Rice his junior year before stepping aside to play FB last year.As with Thomas, his effectiveness and fantasy productivity will be greatly determined by who drafts him. I'm leaning towards him going to NE in the first round, but if he gets by them, I think he could go anywhere. I don't think he lasts to 57 for the Eagles to wait until the 2nd. I think Atlanta, Pitt, and Cincy are some of the teams that could grab him if he falls.

go to youtube and watch him make the tacklers miss.

Why would I do that? I'm a Rutgers grad and season ticket holder. I've seen every game Leonard has played. Leonard's ability to avoid tacklers is mostly based on his "Leonard Leap", which I don't think translates to the NFL very well, since NFL defenders won't be as easily faked or prone to leg tackling. The reality (which isn't based on select video highlights) is that Leonard is more of a power runner, who will shake off the first and second hits, not outrun defenders. What many people who only know Leonard from tape fail to recognize is that many of the highlights of Leonard breaking tackles in the open field are on passing plays where he is split wide, or on a screen. In the running game, he was more of a move the pile, fight for yardage type of back. His per-carry of 3.8-4.3 in his years as a halfback are pedestrian at best. Justise Hairston had a higher average before he transferred out. But again, that's not the point with Leonard. He has a nose for the hole, always gets positive yards, and can control the clock at the end of games. Add in his blocking ability and receiving ability, and I feel he's one of the most versatile prospects in years.You seem to imply that I was being negative about Leonard. Quite the contrary. I think he's a can't-miss prospect, although I'm most probably biased. But as I've said on other threads about him, I also think he will be a better football player than a fantasy player.

 

[Aaronstory]

As some have said, it is difficult to compare Leonard to anyone based on just his physical size or measurables, because he brings such intangibles. But the best physical comparison to Leonard is probably Anthony Thomas. Both are 6-2, 225, although Leonard has played bigger. Both ran their 40s in the 4.5 range and are considered straight-ahead runners that can shake off tacklers but won't make many miss. Both have good hands and can be utilized very effectively in the passing game. Of course, Leonard was a much more productive receiver than Thomas in college, but at Rutgers, he was the main offensive weapon for his first two years and split time with Ray Rice his junior year before stepping aside to play FB last year.

As with Thomas, his effectiveness and fantasy productivity will be greatly determined by who drafts him. I'm leaning towards him going to NE in the first round, but if he gets by them, I think he could go anywhere. I don't think he lasts to 57 for the Eagles to wait until the 2nd. I think Atlanta, Pitt, and Cincy are some of the teams that could grab him if he falls.

go to youtube and watch him make the tacklers miss.

Why would I do that? I'm a Rutgers grad and season ticket holder. I've seen every game Leonard has played. Leonard's ability to avoid tacklers is mostly based on his "Leonard Leap", which I don't think translates to the NFL very well, since NFL defenders won't be as easily faked or prone to leg tackling. The reality (which isn't based on select video highlights) is that Leonard is more of a power runner, who will shake off the first and second hits, not outrun defenders. What many people who only know Leonard from tape fail to recognize is that many of the highlights of Leonard breaking tackles in the open field are on passing plays where he is split wide, or on a screen. In the running game, he was more of a move the pile, fight for yardage type of back. His per-carry of 3.8-4.3 in his years as a halfback are pedestrian at best. Justise Hairston had a higher average before he transferred out. But again, that's not the point with Leonard. He has a nose for the hole, always gets positive yards, and can control the clock at the end of games. Add in his blocking ability and receiving ability, and I feel he's one of the most versatile prospects in years.You seem to imply that I was being negative about Leonard. Quite the contrary. I think he's a can't-miss prospect, although I'm most probably biased. But as I've said on other threads about him, I also think he will be a better football player than a fantasy player.

I'm sorry..........but damn.

 

[trader jake]

Good info super sleeper.

 

[tex]

Brian Leonard - New England Patriotsbook it, Dano.

While I agree that Leonard is the type of player that the Pats look for in terms of versatility, image, and team first philosophy, I have a very hard time thinking that they would burn first round picks in back-to-back years on RBs, especially when Leonard would mostly serve as a backup, the team has much more pressing needs, and is in position to win this year.Add to that that the team signed three WR, a RB, and a TE as free agents, the age and health of some key defenders. and the team drafting 7 offensive players last draft and I think they go defense/defense with their first round picks.

Just think of Deuce/Reggie in New Orleans. We could have Maroney/Leonard in NE. With Maroney and Leonard in the backfield at the same time, it would give NE a ton of options-just like the Saints with Deuce/Reggie. Leonard would give a huge boost to an already potent offense IMO. And I am not a Pats fan. But I love watching Leonard play. As a matter of fact, NE go ahead and pass on him and let the Texans grab him in the 2nd. Oh wait a minute-we're not smart enough to make that pick.

 

[prymetyme25]

Brian Leonard - New England Patriotsbook it, Dano.

While I agree that Leonard is the type of player that the Pats look for in terms of versatility, image, and team first philosophy, I have a very hard time thinking that they would burn first round picks in back-to-back years on RBs, especially when Leonard would mostly serve as a backup, the team has much more pressing needs, and is in position to win this year.Add to that that the team signed three WR, a RB, and a TE as free agents, the age and health of some key defenders. and the team drafting 7 offensive players last draft and I think they go defense/defense with their first round picks.

Just think of Deuce/Reggie in New Orleans. We could have Maroney/Leonard in NE. With Maroney and Leonard in the backfield at the same time, it would give NE a ton of options-just like the Saints with Deuce/Reggie. Leonard would give a huge boost to an already potent offense IMO. And I am not a Pats fan. But I love watching Leonard play. As a matter of fact, NE go ahead and pass on him and let the Texans grab him in the 2nd. Oh wait a minute-we're not smart enough to make that pick.

IF the Texans took him in the 2nd round I'd say they were GM'S of the YEAR. considering they dont have a 2nd round pick.

 

[Warpig]

Brian Leonard - New England Patriotsbook it, Dano.

While I agree that Leonard is the type of player that the Pats look for in terms of versatility, image, and team first philosophy, I have a very hard time thinking that they would burn first round picks in back-to-back years on RBs, especially when Leonard would mostly serve as a backup, the team has much more pressing needs, and is in position to win this year.Add to that that the team signed three WR, a RB, and a TE as free agents, the age and health of some key defenders. and the team drafting 7 offensive players last draft and I think they go defense/defense with their first round picks.

Just think of Deuce/Reggie in New Orleans. We could have Maroney/Leonard in NE. With Maroney and Leonard in the backfield at the same time, it would give NE a ton of options-just like the Saints with Deuce/Reggie. Leonard would give a huge boost to an already potent offense IMO. And I am not a Pats fan. But I love watching Leonard play. As a matter of fact, NE go ahead and pass on him and let the Texans grab him in the 2nd. Oh wait a minute-we're not smart enough to make that pick.

I agree that scenario would be nice. But didn't the Pats draft Garrett Mills to be their "utility" back? He received his share of hype heading into the draft as well and has shown some ability in what little action he's seen (Mills that is).