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Brodie Croyle out for the season (1 Viewer)
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Big Daddy Kane
Footballguy
Daunte Culpepper
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
He would have had to have a career before he was Daunte Culpepper. This guy is in his own league of injury prone.
MutantEnemies
Footballguy
I was thinking he was saying the Chiefs should give Daunte a call. As Daunte's name shows up anytime a QB gets hurt.
Big Daddy Kane
Footballguy
Yes, Daunte should be sitting by his phone.I was thinking he was saying the Chiefs should give Daunte a call. As Daunte's name shows up anytime a QB gets hurt.
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Footballguy
This is a lost season for KC. There's no reason to bring in another quarterback at this point -- it would just cost the team money that it doesn't need to spend, and it would take too long for the QB to learn the playbook anyway.
The team will turn to Huard, Tyler Thigpen and Ingle Martin and then reevaluate their QB needs in February.
The team will turn to Huard, Tyler Thigpen and Ingle Martin and then reevaluate their QB needs in February.
Big Score
Footballguy
Did he really look good, or was it more that the score was so far out of hand by the time he entered the game, that the Tenn D was in the bend but don't break prevent type defense?
corpcow
Footballguy
Wow this guy has to be the most fragile QB around. In one dynasty, I have him, Jamarcus, and now Brad Johnson (and just cut Huard because of his high salary). 
I didn't see the game, but talked to a friend who did and he said he actually looked pretty sharp before that (and the numbers were decent against that D). He said Huard was just terrrible, though he did put up better numbers than Thigpen.
For those of us in a bad way with our QBs, who's the guy to own?
I didn't see the game, but talked to a friend who did and he said he actually looked pretty sharp before that (and the numbers were decent against that D). He said Huard was just terrrible, though he did put up better numbers than Thigpen.
For those of us in a bad way with our QBs, who's the guy to own?
Weapon of Mass Instruction
Watch my feet!
Heck, I was in there at MLB the last couple of drives.
blake
Footballguy
i'm wondering this too. thigpen could be an interesting pickup again.
massraider
Footballguy
Nightmare for Chiefs fans would be for Carl Peterson to share this opinion, and the Chiefs wait another year before going and getting a QB. They need a young franchise QB this offseason.
blake
Footballguy
where though? trade 2 first rounders for brady quinn?
massraider
Footballguy
Don't they still have a draft every April?
blake
Footballguy
thanks for clarifying your statement.
massraider
Footballguy
Hey, no sweat.Thigpen, Croyle and Huard are not the QBs for a rebuilding team. They need a QB to build around. I don't care who it is, pick one. Quinn? Nah, I think they should go get a GOOD young QB.
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Footballguy
This rarely works. For every Peyton Manning or Matt Ryan, there are half a dozen Ryan Leafs, Joey Harringtons, Kyle Bollers, Matt Leinarts, etc.
enfuego
Footballguy
Listen, Thigpen drove the Chiefs vs a team that did not want to give up a TD...He looked speedy on his scramble into the end zone on the score. I'm not saying he's the 2nd coming or will make the Pro Bowl anytime soon, but if you have room or in need, you could do far worse than Thigpen.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
If you are trying to use Thigpen or Huard as a fill in for the next couple weeks I'm suggesting to trade a good wr or rb for a good QB and a lesser rb/wr.
massraider
Footballguy
What has a higher percentage? How else should they get their QB? You can say the same thing about any other way of acquiring a QB. For every Tom Brady.....For every Rich Gannon......For every Tony Romo.........
blake
Footballguy
i'm embarassed to admit it, but hey - desperation creates a funny smell.
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Footballguy
It doesn't matter which method has a higher percentage, because it costs a team NOTHING when a 3rd string QB doesn't work out. But a team can be set back for YEARS if a 1st round pick doesn't pan out.
massraider
Footballguy
I don't get that line of thinking. If you scout a college QB, and think he is a stud, you don't pass on him because of Tim Couch. You have to have a QB in this league, and the Chiefs don't have one. They need to get one, that was my only point. I don't care how it happens. If you have another suggestion on how to do so, I'd like to hear it.
Kevin Ashcraft
Footballguy
I about spit out my drink when I read this.He is mobile, yes that part is right. But did you see some his passes he floated yesterday, and has done all season. Did you see him stare down his primary receiver every play? Did you see him bail out on the play and take off running when his primary read was covered?The Chiefs only viable QB is Huard, and he, like the few other veterans on this team, looks to be dis-interested.enfuego said:
joffer
Footballguy
of all the QBs that took a snap yesterday, Thigpen was far and away the most ill-equipped to be playing at the NFL level. he's awful.as crazy as it sounds, Culpepper might not be the worst idea in the world if Huard is out for a while.
joffer
Footballguy
i'm guessing you could get him pretty cheap right now. agree i wouldn't do it if he's still holding out for serious money.
TommyGilmore
Footballguy
Flushing perfectly good money that could be better suited for signing a quarterback in 2009.
Ozymandias
Footballguy
Fantasy managers all over the universe must be committing suicide at this news.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
What's the % chance that the Chiefs go winless now?
Here are the FA QBs next offseason.
Jeff Garcia, UFA, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rex Grossman, UFA, Chicago Bears
Kyle Boller, UFA, Baltimore Ravens
Charlie Batch, UFA, Pittsburgh Steelers
Matt Cassel, UFA, New England Patriots
J.P. Losman, UFA, Buffalo Bills
Kyle Orton, UFA, Chicago Bears
Patrick Ramsey, UFA, Denver Broncos
Kurt Warner, UFA, Arizona Cardinals
Gotta think that Orton and Warner will be re-signed. Either Garcia or Grossman would be a decent one year stop gap.
I said it before and I will again. If I'm Matt Stafford, I stay in school.
Here are the FA QBs next offseason.
Jeff Garcia, UFA, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rex Grossman, UFA, Chicago Bears
Kyle Boller, UFA, Baltimore Ravens
Charlie Batch, UFA, Pittsburgh Steelers
Matt Cassel, UFA, New England Patriots
J.P. Losman, UFA, Buffalo Bills
Kyle Orton, UFA, Chicago Bears
Patrick Ramsey, UFA, Denver Broncos
Kurt Warner, UFA, Arizona Cardinals
Gotta think that Orton and Warner will be re-signed. Either Garcia or Grossman would be a decent one year stop gap.
I said it before and I will again. If I'm Matt Stafford, I stay in school.
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-baller
Footballguy
garbage timea good run and another "what are you doing!" type scramble behind the LOSI'd look for Ingle Martin to get a shot sooner or later. (In week 2?)They took him off the Titans PS. Fisher was going to activate him to keep him but Ingle wanted at least a tiny chance in starting so he wished him well. I don't think the Chiefs have anything more than a curiousity about him; like several other teams, they probably had him ranked fairly high when the Pack drafted him. There's no reason to stay curious now so why not? I think he'll get a start or two by the end of the season.Big Score said:
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
0/26/08 at New York Jets 11/02/08 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 11/09/08 at San Diego Chargers 11/16/08 New Orleans Saints 11/23/08 Buffalo Bills 11/30/08 at Oakland Raiders 12/07/08 at Denver Broncos 12/14/08 San Diego Chargers 12/21/08 Miami Dolphins 12/28/08 at Cincinnati Bengals Could come down to the last two weeks. How about the 0-15 Bengals Vs. the 0-15 Chiefs? That would be EPIC!
I've heard he's considerring retiring. It might just be a move to say "so pay me more to continue playing" to the Cards but...
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
-baller
Footballguy
09/28/08 DEN 19 @ KC 33I don't think you pick up on hints very well.
corpcow
Footballguy
Why would signing Culpepper - or anyone - on a short-term, 1 yr contract have anything to do with their ability to sign a QB in the off-season? The salary cap is the limiting factor, not "cash on hand", and the latest estimate I saw suggests they have roughly $10m in cap space right now. Plus, if the money is not guaranteed, there is no penalty for cutting him and no salary hit after the contract runs its course.You have a young team. If they have a healthy QB they were looking to develop for the future on the roster right now, I'd say go ahead and let him take his lumps now. The Chiefs did a great job in the past draft and you have to assume they're going to go after a QB with their first round pick which is almost guaranteed to be 5 or higher. If you don't think Thigpen is the future or has the potential to be a starter for you, I'd rather have a veteran presence in there to keep the lights on. Huard hasn't played well and he's also banged up - so it might actually be a wise decision to bring in a vet like C-Pep et al to provide some stability and continue the development of young talents like Bowe, etc.TommyGilmore
Footballguy
Signing Culpepper for the rest of the season would cost the Chiefs $475,000. If you don't think that this would affect how much the Chiefs spend in the offseason.....then you don't know the Chiefs very well.
corpcow
Footballguy
No, I'm not a Chiefs fan and I don't know them very well. Please explain.Signing Culpepper for the rest of the season would cost the Chiefs $475,000. If you don't think that this would affect how much the Chiefs spend in the offseason.....then you don't know the Chiefs very well.
culpepper is his own agent, thread here....ya might find it interesting
Kevin Ashcraft
Footballguy
At this rate, here is what KC needs to do -- this is from a guy who has watched every painful game for the last few years....
1. Start Huard if possible the rest of the season, if he gets hurt, use Ingle Martin. We have seen Thigpen and it is not pretty. Huard, when given protection and job security, is an average NFL QB. We saw that in 2006.
2. Use the 32+ million is cap space you have right now to release Larry Johnson and Pat Surtain. Take the cap hits when you have the ability to. This season is lost -- keeping those albatross contracts around with a 1-15 team is dumb.
3. At season's end, fire Carl Peterson and Herman Edwards.
4. Use your top-3 (maybe #1) pick on a QB -- DO NOT GO THE FREE AGENT ROUTE! Let the new regime scout the QBs and take Stafford, Tebow, Bradford, Freeman, etc.
5. Let the selected QB start from day 1 as a rookie.
Use free agency to sign OL, etc.
1. Start Huard if possible the rest of the season, if he gets hurt, use Ingle Martin. We have seen Thigpen and it is not pretty. Huard, when given protection and job security, is an average NFL QB. We saw that in 2006.
2. Use the 32+ million is cap space you have right now to release Larry Johnson and Pat Surtain. Take the cap hits when you have the ability to. This season is lost -- keeping those albatross contracts around with a 1-15 team is dumb.
3. At season's end, fire Carl Peterson and Herman Edwards.
4. Use your top-3 (maybe #1) pick on a QB -- DO NOT GO THE FREE AGENT ROUTE! Let the new regime scout the QBs and take Stafford, Tebow, Bradford, Freeman, etc.
5. Let the selected QB start from day 1 as a rookie.
Use free agency to sign OL, etc.
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massraider
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