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Broncos fielded offers for Cutler? (1 Viewer)
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fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
Good source.
Getinthemix
Footballguy
Schefter was just talking about this on NFLN. Said that TB and Detroit were going to trade for Cassel and then trade him to Denver for Cutler.
harryhood
Footballguy
Can anyone confirm what Schefter said on the network? Kinda wondering how this could have gotten twisted.
harryhood
Footballguy
And Denver was OK with this?
harryhood
Footballguy
Thanks for making me a better person, changed for your convenience
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
Rotoworld) Speaking on NFL Network, Adam Schefter reported that the Lions and Bucs both attempted to enter Matt Cassel trade talks at the last minute.
Analysis: At least one of the teams was interested in acquiring Cassel and flipping and picks to Denver for Jay Cutler. Denver obviously told them to pound sand. Schefter was clear that the Broncos only fielded phone calls and never instigated Cutler trade talks.
Analysis: At least one of the teams was interested in acquiring Cassel and flipping and picks to Denver for Jay Cutler. Denver obviously told them to pound sand. Schefter was clear that the Broncos only fielded phone calls and never instigated Cutler trade talks.
harryhood
Footballguy
Good business to always listen to trades but these two teams had to have some sort of knowledge that this deal could have been a possibility. why even field a phone call? Dude is your franchise QB
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Burning Sensation
Footballguy
If the Broncos were listening, i bet they were waiting to hear how many first round picks the Bucs would be giving in addition to Cassel.
FUBAR
Footballguy
because you never know when "We'll send Cassel and our 1.01 for Cutler" turns into "we'll send you Ernie Sims for a 2nd". Never never never ignore a phone call in this business.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
Cutler isn't going anywhere. Every team listens to trade offers, doesn't mean it is going to happen. The same site talks about Ray Lewis signing with Denver as well.
I mean Cleveland would field offers for Lebron, doesn't mean they would consider trading him.
I mean Cleveland would field offers for Lebron, doesn't mean they would consider trading him.
Posted by Mike Florio: Saturday, February 28, 2009 4:22 PM
Adam Schefter of NFL Network and Vic Lombardi of CBS4 in Denver report that the Broncos have been shopping quarterback Jay Cutler.
Per both reports, the Bucs and Broncos were trying to swing a three-way deal pursuant to which Matt Cassel would have been traded from the Pats to the Broncos, Cutler would have gone from Denver to Tampa, and the Patriots would have been compensated presumably by the Buccaneers.
According to Schefter, the Lions also approached the Broncos about a trade for Cutler.
And here's where it gets interesting. Schefter's version creates the impression that the Broncos didn't initiate the talks, and merely responded to the offers presented. Vic Lombardi's version suggests that the Broncos were and are shopping the eleventh overall pick in the 2006 draft.
"I've heard the rumors," Cutler told Vic Lombardi. "I know what they're trying to do. Even though I love Denver and I'd love to remain a Bronco, I know how this business works. If they want me to play somewhere else, so be it."
Despite Cutler's generally P.C. comments, Schefter contends that Cutler was angered by the news.
There's a consensus in league circles that Cutler has plateaued after showing some improvement early in the 2008 season. He has been criticized in some circles for having a nonchalant demeanor.
The reality is that, whenever there's a new coach, there's a chance that he'll want to pick his own quarterback. Regardless of whether the Broncos initiated the trade talks, the fact that the Broncos said anything other than "hell no" suggests that new coach Josh McDaniels wants to go in a different direction.
Adam Schefter of NFL Network and Vic Lombardi of CBS4 in Denver report that the Broncos have been shopping quarterback Jay Cutler.
Per both reports, the Bucs and Broncos were trying to swing a three-way deal pursuant to which Matt Cassel would have been traded from the Pats to the Broncos, Cutler would have gone from Denver to Tampa, and the Patriots would have been compensated presumably by the Buccaneers.
According to Schefter, the Lions also approached the Broncos about a trade for Cutler.
And here's where it gets interesting. Schefter's version creates the impression that the Broncos didn't initiate the talks, and merely responded to the offers presented. Vic Lombardi's version suggests that the Broncos were and are shopping the eleventh overall pick in the 2006 draft.
"I've heard the rumors," Cutler told Vic Lombardi. "I know what they're trying to do. Even though I love Denver and I'd love to remain a Bronco, I know how this business works. If they want me to play somewhere else, so be it."
Despite Cutler's generally P.C. comments, Schefter contends that Cutler was angered by the news.
There's a consensus in league circles that Cutler has plateaued after showing some improvement early in the 2008 season. He has been criticized in some circles for having a nonchalant demeanor.
The reality is that, whenever there's a new coach, there's a chance that he'll want to pick his own quarterback. Regardless of whether the Broncos initiated the trade talks, the fact that the Broncos said anything other than "hell no" suggests that new coach Josh McDaniels wants to go in a different direction.
Buffaloes
Footballguy
From your link:
As far as the speculative portion of the article, I don't really trust any Bronco news coming from the Denver media these days. I think their contacts within the organization left when the last regime left. Schefter is about the only source I would believe when it comes to that type of info.
Burning Sensation
Footballguy
Assuming the Broncos were to trade Cutler, which i dont believe they would, what could they expect to get, say from the Lions? Both of thier firsts?
Well thats why I said mixed signals right? First they say they are shopping ...yet they have the GM quote. Course is the GM going to say yeah we are shopping him (in case the deals dont go through)?Where the is smoke there is fire.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
I hate the speculation threads and the big quote that jumped out at me from all that was from Cutler himself; "I've heard the rumors," Cutler said. "I know what they're trying to do. Even though I love Denver and I'd love to remain a Bronco, I know how this business works. If they want me to play somewhere else, so be it."captbly said:
candymanvandyfan
Footballguy
http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/football...ping_jay_c.html
"Now the Broncos are turning to other teams in an effort to trade Cutler, possibly the Detroit Lions."
Denver doesn't deserve Jay Cutler. Denver deserves Brian Griese back.
Jay Cutler being good doesn't make John Elway any less great.
"Now the Broncos are turning to other teams in an effort to trade Cutler, possibly the Detroit Lions."
Denver doesn't deserve Jay Cutler. Denver deserves Brian Griese back.
Jay Cutler being good doesn't make John Elway any less great.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Dont blame him. I'd give them the big FU too.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
Does anyone know when his contract expires? Is this all about the $ it was going to take to sign him to an extension?
Frank Costanza's Lawyer
Footballguy
Has it even been confirmed that he was being shopped by the Broncos? Schefter continues to report that the Broncos only fielded some calls.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
Depends on if you believe Cutler or not. "I know what they're trying to do." Not a lot of grey area there.
If that is true the Vikings should make a play for Cutler. He'd be waaay better than TJax or Rosenfels.
Frank Costanza's Lawyer
Footballguy
Its not about believing Cutler. Lombardi is the one who is saying the Broncos were shopping Cutler, and he's the one who Culter said that to.Im curious if there is any source for this other than Lombardi or if someone else is confirming what he is reporting.
candymanvandyfan
Footballguy
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcwest/0-3-166...-be-traded.html
Now it gets interesting.
Sounds like damage control and flat out lies out of the Denver brass.
"A source close to the situation told ESPN.com that the Broncos were actively pursuing the trade because McDaniels wanted to be reunited with Cassel, who excelled under McDaniels last season as an injury replacement for Tom Brady.
The source said in the aftermath of the news Saturday, Cutler asked permission to find his own trade partner but was denied by the Broncos. The source added that Cutler is still hopeful he will be traded because he feels betrayed by McDaniels.
The source said Denver is no longer interested in dealing Cutler, who made the Pro Bowl in 2008, his second full season as a starter. The source said Tampa Bay, Detroit and Chicago could be possible destinations if Cutler gets his way and is traded. The source pointed out that until Cutler heard about the trade talks Saturday, he was completely happy playing for McDaniels and being in Denver."
Now it gets interesting.
Sounds like damage control and flat out lies out of the Denver brass.
"A source close to the situation told ESPN.com that the Broncos were actively pursuing the trade because McDaniels wanted to be reunited with Cassel, who excelled under McDaniels last season as an injury replacement for Tom Brady.
The source said in the aftermath of the news Saturday, Cutler asked permission to find his own trade partner but was denied by the Broncos. The source added that Cutler is still hopeful he will be traded because he feels betrayed by McDaniels.
The source said Denver is no longer interested in dealing Cutler, who made the Pro Bowl in 2008, his second full season as a starter. The source said Tampa Bay, Detroit and Chicago could be possible destinations if Cutler gets his way and is traded. The source pointed out that until Cutler heard about the trade talks Saturday, he was completely happy playing for McDaniels and being in Denver."
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
They'll kiss and make nice again
candymanvandyfan
Footballguy
http://www.kdvr.com/news/kdvr-cutler-trade...0,5433550.story
Curious. The agent could have been involved sooner, I think.
It seems there may be some coordination issues in the front office.
Curious. The agent could have been involved sooner, I think.
It seems there may be some coordination issues in the front office.
mr. furley
Footballguy
nothing personal but i find this hard to believe. sounds like misinformation.
Yeah sounds extreme to me.. but the guy is usually pretty on. Was hoping someone else might have seen it.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Denver would take Detroits place as the dumbest team in the league.
a_troll00
Footballguy
ditto
Kev4029
Footballguy
Agreed. And if that were to happen, there could be quite a snowball effect throughout the organization. This sucks.
Burning Sensation
Footballguy
Cutler, Marshall and Scheffler to Detroit for Calvin Johnson? 
If the first bolded statement is true, I have a hard time believing the second.
a_troll00
Footballguy
Then you didn't go through getting to experience John Elway followed by the prolonged agony of Griese and Plummer, followed by the renewed hope brought by Cutler. Having that dashed right now would be a bit much to take.
Hey now.. Be a life long Lions fan....and then talk about QB missery
Andy Herron
Footballguy
As a huge fan of Cutler since day one, I find this very disturbing.
As a life-long Cowboys fan, I say we'll give you Romo for Cutler straight up.
As a life-long Cowboys fan, I say we'll give you Romo for Cutler straight up.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
I think a few teams wanted to throw Cassel at the Broncos due to the NE connection (McDaniels) to get one of the best young QB's in the league.
I can't say I blame them trying as I think Cassel's going to be a colossal failure of Elvis Grbac proportions in KC.
I can't say I blame them trying as I think Cassel's going to be a colossal failure of Elvis Grbac proportions in KC.
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crnerblitz
Footballguy
All this as Derrick Ward rolls into town. "Yeah Derrick, Our Coach, Franchise QB, and Front Office are not on the same page at all. On the bright side you may or may not be a perfect fit to set our offense up for years to come... or not."
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Sounds like Cutler feels they are still looking to trade him...
Trade talk rattles Cutler
Even without serious competition from a backup, the Broncos had themselves a quarterback controversy Friday.
Jay Cutler, the Broncos' starting quarterback, the franchise, the one player who carried all hope for a greater future, believes his days with the team are numbered — even after a proposed deal that would have sent him to Tampa Bay and Matt Cassel to Denver never materialized.
"My understanding at this point is they're trying to trade me," Cutler said this afternoon. "We'll see where I end up at. I liked it here, I liked playing with these guys but obviously they're not going to let me have that opportunity."
The deal had Tampa Bay trying to acquire Cutler in exchange for a first-round draft pick. In turn, the Broncos would have traded the first-round draft pick to New England in exchange for quarterback Matt Cassel.
McDaniels was the Patriots' offensive coordinator last season when he helped guide Cassel, a career-long backup, to an 11-5 record and 89.4 passer rating that ranked 10th in the league.
It may be important to note, Tampa Bay initiated the deal. And they weren't the only team that inquired about acquiring Cutler.
"He's not the only person in the last few days we've received calls on," McDaniels said. "We've received trade calls on a number of players, which is not uncommon this time of the year. I also think the sensitivity of the other trade that was occurring, with my relationship with New England and the whole Cassel thing, I think that stirred the pot even more."
And then McDaniels made a point of emphasis: "We don't want to trade Jay. We never did. He's our quarterback. We're excited about this season. And excited about what we're doing here in free agency to improve our team."
Cassel was instead traded Saturday to the Kansas City Chiefs in exchange for the No. 34 overall pick in the upcoming draft.
Nevertheless, Cutler was shaken his team entertained moving him, and doesn't believe such a possibility is dead.
"I'm upset. I mean I'm really shocked at this point," he said. "I could see why they want Cassel. I don't know if they think I can't run the system or I don't have the skills for it. I just don't get it. Or if they don't think they can sign me with my next contract. I just don't know what it is. I've heard I'm still on the trading block."
Cutler has three years left on the six-year contract he signed prior to his rookie season. He said Broncos officials denied they were trying to him in a conversation with his agent Bus Cook. Cutler added that after the proposed deal spread through the Internet, the team cut off communication with Cook.
Had the proposed trade gone through, it would have come as a surprise to most followers of the team. Cutler is a first-round talent. He was picked No. 11 overall in the 2006 draft and undoubtedly would have gone higher if the league re-did that draft today. Cassel, meanwhile, did not start one game at quarterback at USC and never started in the NFL until this, his fourth season.
Granted, he played behind Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart at USC and Tom Brady at New England. But Cassel doesn't have the arm strength or big-play capability of Cutler, whose 4,526 yards ranked behind only Drew Brees and Kurt Warner among NFL quarterbacks last season.
If Cutler is not traded, and he stays with the Broncos, can his situation be mended? Cutler took a long pause before answering.
"Anything can be mended," he said. "I'll always play with the guys we've got. I love playing for those guys. Obviously, Josh and I's relationship has taken a few steps backward. I don't play for the coaches anyway, I play for teammates. As long as we keep the guys we've got I'll go out there and play. I love those guys."
Cutler said he had spoken with teammates Brandon Marshall, Brandon Stokley, Tony Scheffler and Casey Wiegmann, among others, about his trade.
"I know they love playing for me and I love playing for them," Cutler said. "There's going to be a lot of problems if they try to trade me. Well, they've already tried to trade me, but if they trade me for sure."
Mike Klis: 303-954-1055 or mklis@denverpost.com
Trade talk rattles Cutler
Even without serious competition from a backup, the Broncos had themselves a quarterback controversy Friday.
Jay Cutler, the Broncos' starting quarterback, the franchise, the one player who carried all hope for a greater future, believes his days with the team are numbered — even after a proposed deal that would have sent him to Tampa Bay and Matt Cassel to Denver never materialized.
"My understanding at this point is they're trying to trade me," Cutler said this afternoon. "We'll see where I end up at. I liked it here, I liked playing with these guys but obviously they're not going to let me have that opportunity."
The deal had Tampa Bay trying to acquire Cutler in exchange for a first-round draft pick. In turn, the Broncos would have traded the first-round draft pick to New England in exchange for quarterback Matt Cassel.
McDaniels was the Patriots' offensive coordinator last season when he helped guide Cassel, a career-long backup, to an 11-5 record and 89.4 passer rating that ranked 10th in the league.
It may be important to note, Tampa Bay initiated the deal. And they weren't the only team that inquired about acquiring Cutler.
"He's not the only person in the last few days we've received calls on," McDaniels said. "We've received trade calls on a number of players, which is not uncommon this time of the year. I also think the sensitivity of the other trade that was occurring, with my relationship with New England and the whole Cassel thing, I think that stirred the pot even more."
And then McDaniels made a point of emphasis: "We don't want to trade Jay. We never did. He's our quarterback. We're excited about this season. And excited about what we're doing here in free agency to improve our team."
Cassel was instead traded Saturday to the Kansas City Chiefs in exchange for the No. 34 overall pick in the upcoming draft.
Nevertheless, Cutler was shaken his team entertained moving him, and doesn't believe such a possibility is dead.
"I'm upset. I mean I'm really shocked at this point," he said. "I could see why they want Cassel. I don't know if they think I can't run the system or I don't have the skills for it. I just don't get it. Or if they don't think they can sign me with my next contract. I just don't know what it is. I've heard I'm still on the trading block."
Cutler has three years left on the six-year contract he signed prior to his rookie season. He said Broncos officials denied they were trying to him in a conversation with his agent Bus Cook. Cutler added that after the proposed deal spread through the Internet, the team cut off communication with Cook.
Had the proposed trade gone through, it would have come as a surprise to most followers of the team. Cutler is a first-round talent. He was picked No. 11 overall in the 2006 draft and undoubtedly would have gone higher if the league re-did that draft today. Cassel, meanwhile, did not start one game at quarterback at USC and never started in the NFL until this, his fourth season.
Granted, he played behind Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart at USC and Tom Brady at New England. But Cassel doesn't have the arm strength or big-play capability of Cutler, whose 4,526 yards ranked behind only Drew Brees and Kurt Warner among NFL quarterbacks last season.
If Cutler is not traded, and he stays with the Broncos, can his situation be mended? Cutler took a long pause before answering.
"Anything can be mended," he said. "I'll always play with the guys we've got. I love playing for those guys. Obviously, Josh and I's relationship has taken a few steps backward. I don't play for the coaches anyway, I play for teammates. As long as we keep the guys we've got I'll go out there and play. I love those guys."
Cutler said he had spoken with teammates Brandon Marshall, Brandon Stokley, Tony Scheffler and Casey Wiegmann, among others, about his trade.
"I know they love playing for me and I love playing for them," Cutler said. "There's going to be a lot of problems if they try to trade me. Well, they've already tried to trade me, but if they trade me for sure."
Mike Klis: 303-954-1055 or mklis@denverpost.com
http://cbs4denver.com/broncos/broncos.cutl...l.2.946829.html
Click the Video Box "On the Phone" to the right to hear a phone interview with Jay posted less than an hour ago.
Click the Video Box "On the Phone" to the right to hear a phone interview with Jay posted less than an hour ago.
