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Bucs starting QB? (1 Viewer)
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Couch Potato
Footballguy
You'll find national writers and columnists disagreeing on who they think will win, so anything you read in this thread is pure conjecture and will not provide closure to your question. Ultimately, they have to play the preseason and see who the coaches feel most comfortable going into the season with.
I think it'll be McCown.
Leftwich has a long wind up delivery and is a sloth in the pocket, and that puts a lot of pressure on an OL to protect him. His accuracy is OK, nothing special. He reportedly looked terrible in OTAs.
McCown is mobile, can get first downs with his feet if he has to, but is a somewhat erratic passer at times. He also struggled some in OTAs, but was the lesser of two evils comparatively and is supposedly the leader of the competition going into training camp. Last year when Garcia went down, it was thought McCown would start but Gruden chose Griese instead, a move that upset some in the Tampa organization. McCown's contract was up and he became a free agent this offseason, but the team chose to re-sign him and gave him decent money. Based on contracts and signing bonus (admittedly a questionable measure) Tampa invested more in McCown than in Leftwich. Also, McCown did start some games for Tampa at the end of the 2007 season and performed pretty well.
I think it'll be McCown.
Leftwich has a long wind up delivery and is a sloth in the pocket, and that puts a lot of pressure on an OL to protect him. His accuracy is OK, nothing special. He reportedly looked terrible in OTAs.
McCown is mobile, can get first downs with his feet if he has to, but is a somewhat erratic passer at times. He also struggled some in OTAs, but was the lesser of two evils comparatively and is supposedly the leader of the competition going into training camp. Last year when Garcia went down, it was thought McCown would start but Gruden chose Griese instead, a move that upset some in the Tampa organization. McCown's contract was up and he became a free agent this offseason, but the team chose to re-sign him and gave him decent money. Based on contracts and signing bonus (admittedly a questionable measure) Tampa invested more in McCown than in Leftwich. Also, McCown did start some games for Tampa at the end of the 2007 season and performed pretty well.
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Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
If you are planning on drafting either McCown or Leftwich because of 'value', I would hate to see the rest of your roster with similar 'value'-type picks.
There are more than 24 other QBs better than these two... plenty for a starter and a back-up on every team in a 12-team league. If you found yourself needing a third QB during the season, I'm sure you will find something on the waiver-wire; even these guys.
Von
There are more than 24 other QBs better than these two... plenty for a starter and a back-up on every team in a 12-team league. If you found yourself needing a third QB during the season, I'm sure you will find something on the waiver-wire; even these guys.
Von
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Why even post this? If you don't think the starting QB for the Bucs has any value then don't draft him, whoever it is, but that player can be a QB3 in a deep league and could surprise making him a nice piece in a potential trade. You aren't really contributing anything here, "Von."The OP may have a little foresight and be able to notice that the Bucs have an above average line and some weapons to throw the ball to (Antonio Bryant, Kellen Winslow, Ward/Graham out of the backfield). The Bucs could surprise on offense this year. Raheem Morris was on the "Bubba the Love Sponge Show" this morning and said that the QB competition is wide open between all four QBs on the roster. Freeman, McCown, Leftwich, and Josh Johnson.So, see how the preseason shakes out, but I also think McCown will win the job.
No thanks.
gump
Footballguy
The people I've spoken to inside the team definitely think it's McCown. Of course, I'm not referring to Morris or Dominik.I think it's McCown, but if the Bucs start slowly...check their brutal first two months on the schedule...you'll see Freeman by mid-season.
Notice to all posters on this message board:If by some chance I get bashed with a baseball bat, get caught in a car accident, or in any other way receive brain damage, and you see me asking if I should choose between Nobody 1 or Nobody 2. Please have the decency to tell me not to draft either player.My team will be better for it.If by some chance Nobody 1 or Nobody 2 begins to show signs of something worthwhile during the season, please feel free to let me know so that I may pick them off the waiver wire if I am in such serious need.I promise I will do the same for you; if you are likewise suffering from a mental handicap, a severe case of homerism-hope verification, or grabbing at straws to bolster a poor team.Thank youVon
gump
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McCown averaged 19.5 pts/game his last 4-game stint at start for the Bucs...and that '07 had much less potential than this one.Throw in the likely fact that the Bucs D will be as bad as ever, and I think McCown would be a #3 QB with a lot of upside...potentially a #2. I'd be concerned most about a benching for Freeman at some point...more so than production.
gonzobill5
Footballguy
I play in a number of start 2 QB leagues where McCown, Leftwich and Freeman will all get drafted. I'm very interested in knowing who will be starting. If you don't care about them, go read a different thread.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
That seemed excessive...Not everyone plays in the same type of league as you, guy. Imagine that.
Some leagues have very deep rosters where even potential starting QBs are on teams. Some leagues start 2 QBs. Some owners like to draft players that have the potential to put up fantasy points. So on and so forth.
A starting QB on an NFL team has value regardless of how much of a nobody you think they are.
Derek Anderson was a nobody in 2007. Wouldn't you have rather drafted him as your QB3 in the 20th round of a deep league and not had to worry about your waiver wire order when he started going off?
Whoever wins the starting QB job for the Bucs has similar weapons right now. Therefore, they have some value.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
If someone can get a QB after their leaguemates have spent 2 picks each on QBs that will end up being a startable QB (say, QB 12-15), there's plenty of value in that.If you think that the TB QB will not be a top 24 QB, then obviously, there's no reason to consider it. I think the winner of the job could have value.If someone wants to hold off for a long time at QB to accrue value elsewhere, someone that can get you 200 yards and TD is all you really are looking for. Lefty or McCown could do that as a starter, I think.
I 'm sorry. I truly appologize.I keep forgetting that as the fantasy footballers keep getting younger and younger, the line-up requirements and roster sizes get sillier and sillier. (I do believe that Yahoo! is even thinking of adding family members as a draftable possibility)
Please consider my views based on normal leagues... Old School if you will.
Von
gump
Footballguy
McCown averaged 19.45 pts/game his last stint at starter for the Bucs, with inferior WR, TE, RB, and OL...and a superior D. What kind of league does not need that kind of potential?
Haw. His last stint was when he started in three games in 2007...December 2nd - New Orleans Saints (26th rank defence) Won 27 - 23December 9th - Houston Texans (24th rank defence) Lost 14 - 28December 30th - Carolina Panthers (16th rank defence) Lost 23 - 31You're really going to base your definition of 'potential' on three shootouts against weak defenses.I am getting a strong sense of Homers looking for some hope, by getting verification that their QB is worth drafting.Vongump said:
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
The Saints and the Panthers are a quarter of the Bucs schedule. You really are contributing nothing Von. If an old school guy like you can't see that weapons like Winslow, Bryant and a good running game could give a mediocre QB decent fantasy numbers than you don't have a very good memory. For example, 2 years ago a guy named Derek Anderson was a very startable fantasy QB, especially in deep leagues, just because he had Winslow, Braylon, and a decent running game.
Anyway, I actually like McCown for this offense, and think he could have some value in some leagues other than ones that include this dude above that keeps finding the need to post in here.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Turn the tool factor WAY down, or we'll see you after the vacation.TIA.VonRomig said:
acme
Footballguy
not that it means anything, but i just traded alex smith for mcCown. simply based on my opinion that luke will be a starting QB this season and alex will not.my 2¢
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gump
Footballguy
I wouldn't say anything is clear yet. Wait another 2 weeks and we'll know.If I had to guess...I'd say Lefty is slightly ahead. But there is absolutely...no...way he stays healthy. He can't move at all. Even limped off last night after a few plays. McCown on the other hand looked very mobile.I feel worse now about the Bucs QB situation in general.
el-gato-grande
Footballguy
I think the Josh Freeman era might start sooner than the coaching staff wants it to.
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