Bump the Burner? (1 Viewer)

[C-Bound]

The Falcons' coaching staff reportedly wants to involve Michael Turner more in the passing game.

Entering his seventh NFL season, Turner has 22 career catches. So, we'd have to see it to believe it. "Michael just hasn't had the opportunity ... to catch passes, but he does have good hands," coach Mike Smith said. "It would be nice to have Michael in there in some of those third-down situations."

Source: Atlanta Journal-Constitution

 

[Hagger]

I've owned 'The Burner' in my dynasty league for years now. I could only hope that this is true. But I've never seen anything to make me believe he's going to be used in passing situations.

 

[sos32]

just read the on "roto" to. One can only wish! But seeing is believing! So Falcons throw him the damn ball!!!

 

[Carolina Hustler]

We hear similar stories every year about players across the board... More passes, more carries, impressing in camp, best shape of his life... yadda yadda...

Would be nice I agree, but I'd temper your enthusiasm a bit. We're still talking about a 28 year old RB with a physical style, who is more than a year removed from his ONE great season..

 

[Anthony Borbely]

They say this now, but previously claim they want to limit his touches a bit.

Personally, this does not change much in terms of his value right now, but the one thing it will do is make me pay more attention to how they use him in preseason and how he looks catching passes out of the backfield.

I will add that Jerious Norwood seems to be a perfect 3rd down back to me, so I really don't see a need for the Falcons to give Turner even more work. He should get more than enough without this.

 

[C-Bound]

I had no idea his catch totals were so low and I've had him 3 straight years. I guess ignorance is bliss...

 

[fightingillini]

If they did involve him more in the passing game, I can envision him getting less carries. Turner usually gets about 350 carries....with his style, I can't see ATL wanting to use him more.

That said, even if Turner dropped to 320 carries and increased to 30 receptions, he would be much more valuable in a PPR format, and could be discussed with the Big 4 RBs and Gore.

But I am with the field here....I want to see it in the preseason before I would become a believer.

 

[VaTerp]

I am really high on Turner this year regardless of format.

But he is the one RB who's stock falls more than anybody else's in PPR vs Non-PPR. If he could get just 20-25 receptions that would certainly be a nice little boost as I think he is primed to put up big numbers in yardage and TDs.

 

[Clifford]

We hear similar stories every year about players across the board... More passes, more carries, impressing in camp, best shape of his life... yadda yadda...

Would be nice I agree, but I'd temper your enthusiasm a bit. We're still talking about a 28 year old RB with a physical style, who is more than a year removed from his ONE great season..

One great season out of 2 as a starter, and he was having yet another great season before he got hurt. 2 out of 2 ain't bad.

 

[David Yudkin]

We hear similar stories every year about players across the board... More passes, more carries, impressing in camp, best shape of his life... yadda yadda...

Would be nice I agree, but I'd temper your enthusiasm a bit. We're still talking about a 28 year old RB with a physical style, who is more than a year removed from his ONE great season..

Fantasy points per touch . . .2004 0.47

2005 0.90

2006 0.81

2007 0.52

2008 0.72

2009 0.82

Career 0.74

Since he came into the league, Turner ranks 8th in fantasy points per touch for players with at least 750 touches.

1 Maurice Jones-Drew 0.86

2 LaDainian Tomlinson 0.80

3 Brandon Jacobs 0.79

4 DeAngelo Williams 0.78

5 Adrian Peterson 0.78

6 Brian Westbrook 0.78

7 Marion Barber 0.75

8 Michael Turner 0.74

9 Corey Dillon 0.74

10 Shaun Alexander 0.73

11 Joseph Addai 0.73

12 Tiki Barber 0.72

13 Frank Gore 0.70

14 Ronnie Brown 0.69

15 Larry Johnson 0.68

16 Steven Jackson 0.65

17 Deuce McAllister 0.64

18 Chester Taylor 0.63

19 Willis McGahee 0.63

20 Ryan Grant 0.62

 

[zamboni]

It seems to make a lot of sense for the Falcons to use Turner more in the passing game IF he can prove adept at it. It would certainly remove some of the predictability out of the Falcons' offensive scheme, as teams clearly know that when MT is in the game, it's going to be a straight run or pass play - not really in between.

I seem to recall comments in the past that Turner can catch the ball, but with LT and Sproles around in SD, and now Norwood in ATL, the need wasn't really there.

Definitely remains to be seen, but I'm a bit skeptical that all of a sudden they're going to start throwing the ball to Turner.

 

[PatrickT]

Posted this in the Falcons thread, but I think you'll definitely see an uptick in the catches but I don't think there's any reason to label him a PPR stud or anything. I think it only means you shouldn't downgrade him significantly for PPR.

 

[Sabertooth]

We hear similar stories every year about players across the board... More passes, more carries, impressing in camp, best shape of his life... yadda yadda...

Would be nice I agree, but I'd temper your enthusiasm a bit. We're still talking about a 28 year old RB with a physical style, who is more than a year removed from his ONE great season..

He was on the same pace last season and got injured. Just sayin.

 

[Instinctive]

We hear similar stories every year about players across the board... More passes, more carries, impressing in camp, best shape of his life... yadda yadda...

Yeah...then again, the only guy who's rushing production was comparable (recently) and who had never been a big pass catcher is Adrian Peterson...who practically doubled his receptions last year after stories in the offseason of how he'd been working really hard on catching the ball.

 

[Sweet Love]

We hear similar stories every year about players across the board... More passes, more carries, impressing in camp, best shape of his life... yadda yadda...

Would be nice I agree, but I'd temper your enthusiasm a bit. We're still talking about a 28 year old RB with a physical style, who is more than a year removed from his ONE great season..

Fantasy points per touch . . .2004 0.47

2005 0.90

2006 0.81

2007 0.52

2008 0.72

2009 0.82

Career 0.74

Since he came into the league, Turner ranks 8th in fantasy points per touch for players with at least 750 touches.

1 Maurice Jones-Drew 0.86

2 LaDainian Tomlinson 0.80

3 Brandon Jacobs 0.79

4 DeAngelo Williams 0.78

5 Adrian Peterson 0.78

6 Brian Westbrook 0.78

7 Marion Barber 0.75

8 Michael Turner 0.74

9 Corey Dillon 0.74

10 Shaun Alexander 0.73

11 Joseph Addai 0.73

12 Tiki Barber 0.72

13 Frank Gore 0.70

14 Ronnie Brown 0.69

15 Larry Johnson 0.68

16 Steven Jackson 0.65

17 Deuce McAllister 0.64

18 Chester Taylor 0.63

19 Willis McGahee 0.63

20 Ryan Grant 0.62

I don't know about anyone else, but did Brandon Jacobs seem to stick out on that list?

 

[Sweet Love]

We hear similar stories every year about players across the board... More passes, more carries, impressing in camp, best shape of his life... yadda yadda...

Yeah...then again, the only guy who's rushing production was comparable (recently) and who had never been a big pass catcher is Adrian Peterson...who practically doubled his receptions last year after stories in the offseason of how he'd been working really hard on catching the ball.

Seriously...I am much more willing to buy this than the annual "RB 1 and RB 1A will be sharing the backfield"...no one EVER shares the backfield...but RBs do improve/get more opportunities in areas they had little exposure to.

 

[HoleFiller]

If he can go from having maybe 5 catches to maybe 25 i would be sooooo happy. I've been leaning his way lately since i had him last year and the big knock on him to me is that he would give you games with 55 yards and thats it were a guy like Steven Jackson will give you 55 yards with 6 catches and 35 rec yards. If Turner can stay in games more it would be a huge boost.

 

[gianmarco]

We hear similar stories every year about players across the board... More passes, more carries, impressing in camp, best shape of his life... yadda yadda...

Would be nice I agree, but I'd temper your enthusiasm a bit. We're still talking about a 28 year old RB with a physical style, who is more than a year removed from his ONE great season..

Fantasy points per touch . . .2004 0.47

2005 0.90

2006 0.81

2007 0.52

2008 0.72

2009 0.82

Career 0.74

Since he came into the league, Turner ranks 8th in fantasy points per touch for players with at least 750 touches.

1 Maurice Jones-Drew 0.86

2 LaDainian Tomlinson 0.80

3 Brandon Jacobs 0.79

4 DeAngelo Williams 0.78

5 Adrian Peterson 0.78

6 Brian Westbrook 0.78

7 Marion Barber 0.75

8 Michael Turner 0.74

9 Corey Dillon 0.74

10 Shaun Alexander 0.73

11 Joseph Addai 0.73

12 Tiki Barber 0.72

13 Frank Gore 0.70

14 Ronnie Brown 0.69

15 Larry Johnson 0.68

16 Steven Jackson 0.65

17 Deuce McAllister 0.64

18 Chester Taylor 0.63

19 Willis McGahee 0.63

20 Ryan Grant 0.62

I don't know about anyone else, but did Brandon Jacobs seem to stick out on that list?

Brandon Jacobs has been underappreciated for a while. The guy produces when he's on the field. Last year was a very poor year for him but with the news that he had a knee injury for the season that he played on explains some of it.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

We hear similar stories every year about players across the board... More passes, more carries, impressing in camp, best shape of his life... yadda yadda...

Would be nice I agree, but I'd temper your enthusiasm a bit. We're still talking about a 28 year old RB with a physical style, who is more than a year removed from his ONE great season..

Fantasy points per touch . . .2004 0.47

2005 0.90

2006 0.81

2007 0.52

2008 0.72

2009 0.82

Career 0.74

Since he came into the league, Turner ranks 8th in fantasy points per touch for players with at least 750 touches.

1 Maurice Jones-Drew 0.86

2 LaDainian Tomlinson 0.80

3 Brandon Jacobs 0.79

4 DeAngelo Williams 0.78

5 Adrian Peterson 0.78

6 Brian Westbrook 0.78

7 Marion Barber 0.75

8 Michael Turner 0.74

9 Corey Dillon 0.74

10 Shaun Alexander 0.73

11 Joseph Addai 0.73

12 Tiki Barber 0.72

13 Frank Gore 0.70

14 Ronnie Brown 0.69

15 Larry Johnson 0.68

16 Steven Jackson 0.65

17 Deuce McAllister 0.64

18 Chester Taylor 0.63

19 Willis McGahee 0.63

20 Ryan Grant 0.62

Nice work up...

I'll still expect Turner to be on the decline as far as total points goes... The guy is 28...

 

[Carolina Hustler]

We hear similar stories every year about players across the board... More passes, more carries, impressing in camp, best shape of his life... yadda yadda...

Yeah...then again, the only guy who's rushing production was comparable (recently) and who had never been a big pass catcher is Adrian Peterson...who practically doubled his receptions last year after stories in the offseason of how he'd been working really hard on catching the ball.

little bit of an age difference there...

 

[Carolina Hustler]

We hear similar stories every year about players across the board... More passes, more carries, impressing in camp, best shape of his life... yadda yadda...

Would be nice I agree, but I'd temper your enthusiasm a bit. We're still talking about a 28 year old RB with a physical style, who is more than a year removed from his ONE great season..

Fantasy points per touch . . .2004 0.47

2005 0.90

2006 0.81

2007 0.52

2008 0.72

2009 0.82

Career 0.74

Since he came into the league, Turner ranks 8th in fantasy points per touch for players with at least 750 touches.

1 Maurice Jones-Drew 0.86

2 LaDainian Tomlinson 0.80

3 Brandon Jacobs 0.79

4 DeAngelo Williams 0.78

5 Adrian Peterson 0.78

6 Brian Westbrook 0.78

7 Marion Barber 0.75

8 Michael Turner 0.74

9 Corey Dillon 0.74

10 Shaun Alexander 0.73

11 Joseph Addai 0.73

12 Tiki Barber 0.72

13 Frank Gore 0.70

14 Ronnie Brown 0.69

15 Larry Johnson 0.68

16 Steven Jackson 0.65

17 Deuce McAllister 0.64

18 Chester Taylor 0.63

19 Willis McGahee 0.63

20 Ryan Grant 0.62

I don't know about anyone else, but did Brandon Jacobs seem to stick out on that list?

Brandon Jacobs has been underappreciated for a while. The guy produces when he's on the field. Last year was a very poor year for him but with the news that he had a knee injury for the season that he played on explains some of it.

Sorry, I've owned BJ in a dynasty league since he was still behind Barber, and he has NEVER been worth it... I think he had one good season, and that was RB2 #'s if I remember correctly....

 

[nysportsfan]

We hear similar stories every year about players across the board... More passes, more carries, impressing in camp, best shape of his life... yadda yadda...

Would be nice I agree, but I'd temper your enthusiasm a bit. We're still talking about a 28 year old RB with a physical style, who is more than a year removed from his ONE great season..

Fantasy points per touch . . .2004 0.47

2005 0.90

2006 0.81

2007 0.52

2008 0.72

2009 0.82

Career 0.74

Since he came into the league, Turner ranks 8th in fantasy points per touch for players with at least 750 touches.

1 Maurice Jones-Drew 0.86

2 LaDainian Tomlinson 0.80

3 Brandon Jacobs 0.79

4 DeAngelo Williams 0.78

5 Adrian Peterson 0.78

6 Brian Westbrook 0.78

7 Marion Barber 0.75

8 Michael Turner 0.74

9 Corey Dillon 0.74

10 Shaun Alexander 0.73

11 Joseph Addai 0.73

12 Tiki Barber 0.72

13 Frank Gore 0.70

14 Ronnie Brown 0.69

15 Larry Johnson 0.68

16 Steven Jackson 0.65

17 Deuce McAllister 0.64

18 Chester Taylor 0.63

19 Willis McGahee 0.63

20 Ryan Grant 0.62

Nice work up...

I'll still expect Turner to be on the decline as far as total points goes... The guy is 28...

28 is old?

 

[Fear & Loathing]

25 catches is a pipe dream.

If the Falcons are serious about this -- and I doubt they'll be serious enough once the regular season starts -- Turner will go from 5 receptions to about 9 or 10. He's not a good receiver. Norwood and Snelling are good receivers.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

We hear similar stories every year about players across the board... More passes, more carries, impressing in camp, best shape of his life... yadda yadda...

Would be nice I agree, but I'd temper your enthusiasm a bit. We're still talking about a 28 year old RB with a physical style, who is more than a year removed from his ONE great season..

Fantasy points per touch . . .2004 0.47

2005 0.90

2006 0.81

2007 0.52

2008 0.72

2009 0.82

Career 0.74

Since he came into the league, Turner ranks 8th in fantasy points per touch for players with at least 750 touches.

1 Maurice Jones-Drew 0.86

2 LaDainian Tomlinson 0.80

3 Brandon Jacobs 0.79

4 DeAngelo Williams 0.78

5 Adrian Peterson 0.78

6 Brian Westbrook 0.78

7 Marion Barber 0.75

8 Michael Turner 0.74

9 Corey Dillon 0.74

10 Shaun Alexander 0.73

11 Joseph Addai 0.73

12 Tiki Barber 0.72

13 Frank Gore 0.70

14 Ronnie Brown 0.69

15 Larry Johnson 0.68

16 Steven Jackson 0.65

17 Deuce McAllister 0.64

18 Chester Taylor 0.63

19 Willis McGahee 0.63

20 Ryan Grant 0.62

Nice work up...

I'll still expect Turner to be on the decline as far as total points goes... The guy is 28...

28 is old?

Correct me if I'm wrong but for a running back, the peak years are typically 24-26.. 28 is past prime for the average RB...

 

[nysportsfan]

We hear similar stories every year about players across the board... More passes, more carries, impressing in camp, best shape of his life... yadda yadda...

Would be nice I agree, but I'd temper your enthusiasm a bit. We're still talking about a 28 year old RB with a physical style, who is more than a year removed from his ONE great season..

Fantasy points per touch . . .2004 0.47

2005 0.90

2006 0.81

2007 0.52

2008 0.72

2009 0.82

Career 0.74

Since he came into the league, Turner ranks 8th in fantasy points per touch for players with at least 750 touches.

1 Maurice Jones-Drew 0.86

2 LaDainian Tomlinson 0.80

3 Brandon Jacobs 0.79

4 DeAngelo Williams 0.78

5 Adrian Peterson 0.78

6 Brian Westbrook 0.78

7 Marion Barber 0.75

8 Michael Turner 0.74

9 Corey Dillon 0.74

10 Shaun Alexander 0.73

11 Joseph Addai 0.73

12 Tiki Barber 0.72

13 Frank Gore 0.70

14 Ronnie Brown 0.69

15 Larry Johnson 0.68

16 Steven Jackson 0.65

17 Deuce McAllister 0.64

18 Chester Taylor 0.63

19 Willis McGahee 0.63

20 Ryan Grant 0.62

Nice work up...

I'll still expect Turner to be on the decline as far as total points goes... The guy is 28...

28 is old?

Correct me if I'm wrong but for a running back, the peak years are typically 24-26.. 28 is past prime for the average RB...

It might be slightly past the "prime" but I believe it's more miles on the tires than the age of the car.

 

[Sabertooth]

We hear similar stories every year about players across the board... More passes, more carries, impressing in camp, best shape of his life... yadda yadda...

Would be nice I agree, but I'd temper your enthusiasm a bit. We're still talking about a 28 year old RB with a physical style, who is more than a year removed from his ONE great season..

Fantasy points per touch . . .2004 0.47

2005 0.90

2006 0.81

2007 0.52

2008 0.72

2009 0.82

Career 0.74

Since he came into the league, Turner ranks 8th in fantasy points per touch for players with at least 750 touches.

1 Maurice Jones-Drew 0.86

2 LaDainian Tomlinson 0.80

3 Brandon Jacobs 0.79

4 DeAngelo Williams 0.78

5 Adrian Peterson 0.78

6 Brian Westbrook 0.78

7 Marion Barber 0.75

8 Michael Turner 0.74

9 Corey Dillon 0.74

10 Shaun Alexander 0.73

11 Joseph Addai 0.73

12 Tiki Barber 0.72

13 Frank Gore 0.70

14 Ronnie Brown 0.69

15 Larry Johnson 0.68

16 Steven Jackson 0.65

17 Deuce McAllister 0.64

18 Chester Taylor 0.63

19 Willis McGahee 0.63

20 Ryan Grant 0.62

Nice work up...

I'll still expect Turner to be on the decline as far as total points goes... The guy is 28...

I don't think I've heard of a gradual decline at 28, not with any statistical backup anyway. The wall is called the wall because players are clipping along just fine until they hit it. That wall resides at 30, not 28.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

It might be slightly past the "prime" but I believe it's more miles on the tires than the age of the car.

Someone did the study a few years ago, and the age was just as much a determining factor as touches....I wish I was capable of finding the posts that correspond but I don't have the time to look.To your point, some RB's defy the #'s both in age and/or carries but on the average, RB's start declining at 26...

 

[Carolina Hustler]

We hear similar stories every year about players across the board... More passes, more carries, impressing in camp, best shape of his life... yadda yadda...

Would be nice I agree, but I'd temper your enthusiasm a bit. We're still talking about a 28 year old RB with a physical style, who is more than a year removed from his ONE great season..

Fantasy points per touch . . .2004 0.47

2005 0.90

2006 0.81

2007 0.52

2008 0.72

2009 0.82

Career 0.74

Since he came into the league, Turner ranks 8th in fantasy points per touch for players with at least 750 touches.

1 Maurice Jones-Drew 0.86

2 LaDainian Tomlinson 0.80

3 Brandon Jacobs 0.79

4 DeAngelo Williams 0.78

5 Adrian Peterson 0.78

6 Brian Westbrook 0.78

7 Marion Barber 0.75

8 Michael Turner 0.74

9 Corey Dillon 0.74

10 Shaun Alexander 0.73

11 Joseph Addai 0.73

12 Tiki Barber 0.72

13 Frank Gore 0.70

14 Ronnie Brown 0.69

15 Larry Johnson 0.68

16 Steven Jackson 0.65

17 Deuce McAllister 0.64

18 Chester Taylor 0.63

19 Willis McGahee 0.63

20 Ryan Grant 0.62

Nice work up...

I'll still expect Turner to be on the decline as far as total points goes... The guy is 28...

I don't think I've heard of a gradual decline at 28, not with any statistical backup anyway. The wall is called the wall because players are clipping along just fine until they hit it. That wall resides at 30, not 28.

I didn't do the math, but there have been articles and threads on it... I would look it up but I don't have time right now.. and honestly I don't really care about it enough..

But I'm not just making this up...

 

[HoleFiller]

Correct me if I'm wrong but for a running back, the peak years are typically 24-26.. 28 is past prime for the average RB...

Somebody should have told Thomas Jones this. There are exceptions to every rule.

 

[nysportsfan]

It might be slightly past the "prime" but I believe it's more miles on the tires than the age of the car.

Someone did the study a few years ago, and the age was just as much a determining factor as touches....

I wish I was capable of finding the posts that correspond but I don't have the time to look.

To your point, some RB's defy the #'s both in age and/or carries but on the average, RB's start declining at 26...

I actually thought I read the opposite ETA: Found something here but dont feel like reading all three parts. On a quick glance, it seems mileage matters less? http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=66

 

[Sopranos25]

I have him ranked 5th so receptions will get him 5th.

 

[Alberta Clipper]

I'm a Turner ppr keeper owner and have been hoping for the more catches pre-season hype to stick for a couple yrs now.

I really don't see it happening in any significant fantasy basis at this point in his career.

YUDKIN - I love that Fantasy points per touch stats - thanks and I'd like to see an article comparing all time players.

 

[Catbird]

We hear similar stories every year about players across the board... More passes, more carries, impressing in camp, best shape of his life... yadda yadda...

Would be nice I agree, but I'd temper your enthusiasm a bit. We're still talking about a 28 year old RB with a physical style, who is more than a year removed from his ONE great season..

Fantasy points per touch . . .2004 0.47

2005 0.90

2006 0.81

2007 0.52

2008 0.72

2009 0.82

Career 0.74

Since he came into the league, Turner ranks 8th in fantasy points per touch for players with at least 750 touches.

1 Maurice Jones-Drew 0.86

2 LaDainian Tomlinson 0.80

3 Brandon Jacobs 0.79

4 DeAngelo Williams 0.78

5 Adrian Peterson 0.78

6 Brian Westbrook 0.78

7 Marion Barber 0.75

8 Michael Turner 0.74

9 Corey Dillon 0.74

10 Shaun Alexander 0.73

11 Joseph Addai 0.73

12 Tiki Barber 0.72

13 Frank Gore 0.70

14 Ronnie Brown 0.69

15 Larry Johnson 0.68

16 Steven Jackson 0.65

17 Deuce McAllister 0.64

18 Chester Taylor 0.63

19 Willis McGahee 0.63

20 Ryan Grant 0.62

I don't know about anyone else, but did Brandon Jacobs seem to stick out on that list?

Brandon Jacobs has been underappreciated for a while. The guy produces when he's on the field. Last year was a very poor year for him but with the news that he had a knee injury for the season that he played on explains some of it.

Jacobs lept out to me as well, but shows the exact reason Fantasy Points Per Touch is a horrible statistic for measuring RBs - at least by itself. He gets a lot of goal line work - so he scores more points per carry than most, but because of injuries and a perpetual job share, never gets enough touches to nearly meet expectations.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

We hear similar stories every year about players across the board... More passes, more carries, impressing in camp, best shape of his life... yadda yadda...

Would be nice I agree, but I'd temper your enthusiasm a bit. We're still talking about a 28 year old RB with a physical style, who is more than a year removed from his ONE great season..

Fantasy points per touch . . .2004 0.47

2005 0.90

2006 0.81

2007 0.52

2008 0.72

2009 0.82

Career 0.74

Since he came into the league, Turner ranks 8th in fantasy points per touch for players with at least 750 touches.

1 Maurice Jones-Drew 0.86

2 LaDainian Tomlinson 0.80

3 Brandon Jacobs 0.79

4 DeAngelo Williams 0.78

5 Adrian Peterson 0.78

6 Brian Westbrook 0.78

7 Marion Barber 0.75

8 Michael Turner 0.74

9 Corey Dillon 0.74

10 Shaun Alexander 0.73

11 Joseph Addai 0.73

12 Tiki Barber 0.72

13 Frank Gore 0.70

14 Ronnie Brown 0.69

15 Larry Johnson 0.68

16 Steven Jackson 0.65

17 Deuce McAllister 0.64

18 Chester Taylor 0.63

19 Willis McGahee 0.63

20 Ryan Grant 0.62

I don't know about anyone else, but did Brandon Jacobs seem to stick out on that list?

Brandon Jacobs has been underappreciated for a while. The guy produces when he's on the field. Last year was a very poor year for him but with the news that he had a knee injury for the season that he played on explains some of it.

Jacobs lept out to me as well, but shows the exact reason Fantasy Points Per Touch is a horrible statistic for measuring RBs - at least by itself. He gets a lot of goal line work - so he scores more points per carry than most, but because of injuries and a perpetual job share, never gets enough touches to nearly meet expectations.

And to continue your point, Turner was only worth having 1 out of 6 seasons yet he's 8th on the list... Certainly not valued 8th in those other 5 years as far as players who helped you win.

 

[David Yudkin]

Turner has only been a starter for two seasons. Before that really shouldn't be held against him, as no one was going to outplay LT in his prime. In his two seasons, Turner ranked 2nd and 9th in fantasy ppg (0 ppr). He got hurt the end of last year. That made his year end totals look worse than they really were. But to say he was worthless in X amount of years as a back up is very misleading.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Turner has only been a starter for two seasons. Before that really shouldn't be held against him, as no one was going to outplay LT in his prime. In his two seasons, Turner ranked 2nd and 9th in fantasy ppg (0 ppr). He got hurt the end of last year. That made his year end totals look worse than they really were. But to say he was worthless in X amount of years as a back up is very misleading.

I assume your PPT stats include all 6 years, though he was only worth having in one of those six years.... I don't hold anything against him. Honestly I don't care. I've never owned him and probably never will. I play dynasty and a RB at 28 years with only 1 good season ever is typically not a high seller... I don't care what the reasons are, injury, non-starter.. whatever... just add those to a list of other reasons why a player might take up roster space and not meet expectations... At the end of the year is the commish of your league going to give you a write off since Player #W was hurt? "But he wasn't starting.."... "But he was hurt..."...TWENTY EIGHT YEARS OLD!!! maybe... MAYBE... 2 good years left but never again produce like in 08

 

[David Yudkin]

Turner has only been a starter for two seasons. Before that really shouldn't be held against him, as no one was going to outplay LT in his prime. In his two seasons, Turner ranked 2nd and 9th in fantasy ppg (0 ppr). He got hurt the end of last year. That made his year end totals look worse than they really were. But to say he was worthless in X amount of years as a back up is very misleading.

I assume your PPT stats include all 6 years, though he was only worth having in one of those six years.... I don't hold anything against him. Honestly I don't care. I've never owned him and probably never will. I play dynasty and a RB at 28 years with only 1 good season ever is typically not a high seller... I don't care what the reasons are, injury, non-starter.. whatever... just add those to a list of other reasons why a player might take up roster space and not meet expectations... At the end of the year is the commish of your league going to give you a write off since Player #W was hurt? "But he wasn't starting.."... "But he was hurt..."...TWENTY EIGHT YEARS OLD!!! maybe... MAYBE... 2 good years left but never again produce like in 08

I don't get the ONE YEAR thing. We was a Top 10 back last year until he got hurt. His first four years he was a back up.And if you played Turner last year + an average back up, you still got RB1 production over the course of the season. So IMO, he's been a worthwhile back both years he started.