Burress shoots himself in the leg (1 Viewer)

[Doctor Detroit]

Dodds, please update Burress' targets. TIA.

 

[pinda]

his talent is ridiculous, but somehow I doubt this wakes him up.

Ok can we please keep this thread on injury updates only. None of this garble about how talented he is, or what your opinion on how this will affect his motivation...

sure doc, wouldn't want you to get sidetracked explaining your usage of the term 'pos' and 'advocating gun rights' in a football thread, sorry for putting my 2 cents on something football related in a football forum, my bad. another update on Burress from a teammate, says he's going to be ok.

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2008/11...nts_teamma.html

 

[The Shizzle]

Will this situation warrent a suspension from Goodell?

He's not a Patriot, so I'd say yes.

Marvin Harrison shot someone else. He didn't get suspended. I would say thats worse than shooting yourself, so I think no. Guns don't seem to bother Goodell.

 

[Limecuda]

Will this situation warrent a suspension from Goodell?

He's not a Patriot, so I'd say yes.

Marvin Harrison shot someone else. He didn't get suspended. I would say thats worse than shooting yourself, so I think no. Guns don't seem to bother Goodell.

Ask Tank Johnson that.

 

[Interseptopus]

his talent is ridiculous, but somehow I doubt this wakes him up.

Ok can we please keep this thread on injury updates only. None of this garble about how talented he is, or what your opinion on how this will affect his motivation...

sure doc, wouldn't want you to get sidetracked explaining your usage of the term 'pos' and 'advocating gun rights' in a football thread, sorry for putting my 2 cents on something football related in a football forum, my bad. another update on Burress from a teammate, says he's going to be ok.

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2008/11...nts_teamma.html

Clearly you didn't catch the sarcasm in response to you're ridiculous post wanting nothing but injury updates in this thread.

Bottom line is that this guy is a POS and chances are he sits out the rest of the regular season and comes back for the playoffs.

Giants will win their division and have home field advantage. If he's out for 2 weeks you really think they'll bring him back for 2 meaningless games week 16 and 17 and risk further injury to the wound site going into the playoffs? This guy will take a month off to rest and get ready for the playoffs.

Too funny though.

Thugs with money and guns... it will never change nor should it ever surprise us. This guy is so stupid he shoots himself in the leg. It's a shame more thugs don't do this to themselves, we'd have a lot less riff raff to deal with

 

[Mustang Man]

Straight up comical. What a clown this guy has been this year. Looks like the G-Men do not really need him anyway.

 

[Interseptopus]

We should have known we would be in for a comical career for Plaxico when he spiked the ball (then ruled a fumble) after a completion in PIT

 

[[scooter]]

Will this situation warrent a suspension from Goodell?

He's not a Patriot, so I'd say yes.

Marvin Harrison shot someone else. He didn't get suspended. I would say thats worse than shooting yourself, so I think no. Guns don't seem to bother Goodell.

There's no proof that Marvin Harrison shot anyone. However, Goodell has suspended Harrison's gun indefinitely. Harrison's gun will be eligible to petition for reinstatement after one year.

 

[pinda]

his talent is ridiculous, but somehow I doubt this wakes him up.

Ok can we please keep this thread on injury updates only. None of this garble about how talented he is, or what your opinion on how this will affect his motivation...

sure doc, wouldn't want you to get sidetracked explaining your usage of the term 'pos' and 'advocating gun rights' in a football thread, sorry for putting my 2 cents on something football related in a football forum, my bad. another update on Burress from a teammate, says he's going to be ok.

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2008/11...nts_teamma.html

Clearly you didn't catch the sarcasm in response to you're ridiculous post wanting nothing but injury updates in this thread.

Bottom line is that this guy is a POS and chances are he sits out the rest of the regular season and comes back for the playoffs.

Giants will win their division and have home field advantage. If he's out for 2 weeks you really think they'll bring him back for 2 meaningless games week 16 and 17 and risk further injury to the wound site going into the playoffs? This guy will take a month off to rest and get ready for the playoffs.

Too funny though.

Thugs with money and guns... it will never change nor should it ever surprise us. This guy is so stupid he shoots himself in the leg. It's a shame more thugs don't do this to themselves, we'd have a lot less riff raff to deal with

clearly you didn't read my original post..... i was asking for football related information, then went on and asked for an update on him.but we can agree on the latter part of your post, really no point in bringing him back the way they are rolling.

as for the thug part, do you really blame these guys for carrying guns after the sean taylor incident? the stupid part is the probable lack of training on how to use a gun, but that's a topic for the free for all.

 

[millertyme1]

I see Hixon showing he's a poor man's Steve Smith the rest of the year & Burress gone this offseason.

 

[Interseptopus]

his talent is ridiculous, but somehow I doubt this wakes him up.

Ok can we please keep this thread on injury updates only. None of this garble about how talented he is, or what your opinion on how this will affect his motivation...

sure doc, wouldn't want you to get sidetracked explaining your usage of the term 'pos' and 'advocating gun rights' in a football thread, sorry for putting my 2 cents on something football related in a football forum, my bad. another update on Burress from a teammate, says he's going to be ok.

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2008/11...nts_teamma.html

Clearly you didn't catch the sarcasm in response to you're ridiculous post wanting nothing but injury updates in this thread.

Bottom line is that this guy is a POS and chances are he sits out the rest of the regular season and comes back for the playoffs.

Giants will win their division and have home field advantage. If he's out for 2 weeks you really think they'll bring him back for 2 meaningless games week 16 and 17 and risk further injury to the wound site going into the playoffs? This guy will take a month off to rest and get ready for the playoffs.

Too funny though.

Thugs with money and guns... it will never change nor should it ever surprise us. This guy is so stupid he shoots himself in the leg. It's a shame more thugs don't do this to themselves, we'd have a lot less riff raff to deal with

clearly you didn't read my original post..... i was asking for football related information, then went on and asked for an update on him.but we can agree on the latter part of your post, really no point in bringing him back the way they are rolling.

as for the thug part, do you really blame these guys for carrying guns after the sean taylor incident? the stupid is the probably lack of training on how to use a gun, but that's a topic for the free for all.

Absolutely. What's he doing in an LA club? Why isn't he in NJ rehabbing his hamstring? Why does he have to fly clear across the country to party? Does he realize that in 2 months he can do all the partying he wants to? After the Sean Taylor incident, sure that was awful news for the football world, but you think players would learn not to put themselves in that kind of situation. Avoid the ghetto clubs where you have to worry about getting shot. I'm not saying this guy needs to go to a martini bar or anything, but come on... he's injured with a hamstring and that gives him an excuse to go party... He got what he deserved. Anyone with brains wouldn't have been there in the first place.

And people wonder where stereotypes come from.... you can thank Tank Johnson, Pacman Jones, Marvin Harrison, and now Plaxico Burress

 

[Ron_Mexico]

as for the thug part, do you really blame these guys for carrying guns after the sean taylor incident? the stupid part is the probable lack of training on how to use a gun, but that's a topic for the free for all.

He's a dope.1. Why the F##K would you go to a club where youfeel the need to carry a gun for your own safety ?2. Dude is a multi multi millionaire, carry a freaking bodyguard instead of gunthat you obviously don't know how to use.

 

[T Bell]

Will this situation warrent a suspension from Goodell?

He's not a Patriot, so I'd say yes.

Marvin Harrison shot someone else. He didn't get suspended. I would say thats worse than shooting yourself, so I think no. Guns don't seem to bother Goodell.

Since when does a "hurt someone else" paradigm exist with off-field incidents? Drug use down? I for one don't envision Goodell taking a "he only hurt himself" approach to this.

 

[identikit]

his talent is ridiculous, but somehow I doubt this wakes him up.

Ok can we please keep this thread on injury updates only. None of this garble about how talented he is, or what your opinion on how this will affect his motivation...

sure doc, wouldn't want you to get sidetracked explaining your usage of the term 'pos' and 'advocating gun rights' in a football thread, sorry for putting my 2 cents on something football related in a football forum, my bad. another update on Burress from a teammate, says he's going to be ok.

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2008/11...nts_teamma.html

Clearly you didn't catch the sarcasm in response to you're ridiculous post wanting nothing but injury updates in this thread.

Bottom line is that this guy is a POS and chances are he sits out the rest of the regular season and comes back for the playoffs.

Giants will win their division and have home field advantage. If he's out for 2 weeks you really think they'll bring him back for 2 meaningless games week 16 and 17 and risk further injury to the wound site going into the playoffs? This guy will take a month off to rest and get ready for the playoffs.

Too funny though.

Thugs with money and guns... it will never change nor should it ever surprise us. This guy is so stupid he shoots himself in the leg. It's a shame more thugs don't do this to themselves, we'd have a lot less riff raff to deal with

clearly you didn't read my original post..... i was asking for football related information, then went on and asked for an update on him.but we can agree on the latter part of your post, really no point in bringing him back the way they are rolling.

as for the thug part, do you really blame these guys for carrying guns after the sean taylor incident? the stupid part is the probable lack of training on how to use a gun, but that's a topic for the free for all.

Yes I do blame them.

The Sean Taylor incident had ZERO similarity to this latest Plaxgate installment.

 

[pinda]

his talent is ridiculous, but somehow I doubt this wakes him up.

Ok can we please keep this thread on injury updates only. None of this garble about how talented he is, or what your opinion on how this will affect his motivation...

sure doc, wouldn't want you to get sidetracked explaining your usage of the term 'pos' and 'advocating gun rights' in a football thread, sorry for putting my 2 cents on something football related in a football forum, my bad. another update on Burress from a teammate, says he's going to be ok.

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2008/11...nts_teamma.html

Clearly you didn't catch the sarcasm in response to you're ridiculous post wanting nothing but injury updates in this thread.

Bottom line is that this guy is a POS and chances are he sits out the rest of the regular season and comes back for the playoffs.

Giants will win their division and have home field advantage. If he's out for 2 weeks you really think they'll bring him back for 2 meaningless games week 16 and 17 and risk further injury to the wound site going into the playoffs? This guy will take a month off to rest and get ready for the playoffs.

Too funny though.

Thugs with money and guns... it will never change nor should it ever surprise us. This guy is so stupid he shoots himself in the leg. It's a shame more thugs don't do this to themselves, we'd have a lot less riff raff to deal with

clearly you didn't read my original post..... i was asking for football related information, then went on and asked for an update on him.but we can agree on the latter part of your post, really no point in bringing him back the way they are rolling.

as for the thug part, do you really blame these guys for carrying guns after the sean taylor incident? the stupid is the probably lack of training on how to use a gun, but that's a topic for the free for all.

Absolutely. What's he doing in an LA club? Why isn't he in NJ rehabbing his hamstring? Why does he have to fly clear across the country to party? Does he realize that in 2 months he can do all the partying he wants to? After the Sean Taylor incident, sure that was awful news for the football world, but you think players would learn not to put themselves in that kind of situation. Avoid the ghetto clubs where you have to worry about getting shot. I'm not saying this guy needs to go to a martini bar or anything, but come on... he's injured with a hamstring and that gives him an excuse to go party... He got what he deserved. Anyone with brains wouldn't have been there in the first place.

And people wonder where stereotypes come from.... you can thank Tank Johnson, Pacman Jones, Marvin Harrison, and now Plaxico Burress

fair points, but i can see the feeling of needing a weapon for these guys after Taylor, not saying it's right, just saying i can see where they come from.as for Ron Mexico's point about being in a club with a gun, i'm pretty sure the gun is carried everywhere he goes, not isolated because he's going to a club. i mean that's just logic, but obviously Burress' logic is pretty flawed given all the incidents in the past year.

 

[pinda]

Yes I do blame them. The Sean Taylor incident had ZERO similarity to this latest Plaxgate installment.

yeah i guess we disagree here. a fellow star nfl player getting killed in his own home after previous threats would concern me as an nfl player. having the gun on him is for safety and for his own peace of mind is where it ties back to Taylor. being an idiot and having it loaded with no safety and shooting himself in the foot, i guess thats where it differs from Taylor.

 

[Interseptopus]

Yes I do blame them.

The Sean Taylor incident had ZERO similarity to this latest Plaxgate installment.

yeah i guess we disagree here. a fellow star nfl player getting killed in his own home after previous threats would concern me as an nfl player. having the gun on him is for safety and for his own peace of mind is where it ties back to Taylor. being an idiot and having it loaded with no safety and shooting himself in the foot, i guess thats where it differs from Taylor.

You say THAT'S where it differs?!?! Taylor was killed in his own home... Plax is 1000 miles away from his home in LA in a club with no history of previous threats. Burress shot himself in the leg, Taylor did not. I see 100% differences in these situations!!!!!!!!

Kind of funny what you said- "being an idiot and having it loaded" So if he were to be approached in a club and have his life threatened he can pull out an unloaded gun? That would make it better? Or I guess we can take your entire sentence.... even with the safety on guns do malfunction and go off. Also having it stuffed down his pants I'm sure the safety could have been jarred to the "off" position. The idiot part is him having the gun on him in the first place

 

[pinda]

Yes I do blame them.

The Sean Taylor incident had ZERO similarity to this latest Plaxgate installment.

yeah i guess we disagree here. a fellow star nfl player getting killed in his own home after previous threats would concern me as an nfl player. having the gun on him is for safety and for his own peace of mind is where it ties back to Taylor. being an idiot and having it loaded with no safety and shooting himself in the foot, i guess thats where it differs from Taylor.

You say THAT'S where it differs?!?! Taylor was killed in his own home... Plax is 1000 miles away from his home in LA in a club with no history of previous threats. Burress shot himself in the leg, Taylor did not. I see 100% differences in these situations!!!!!!!!

Kind of funny what you said- "being an idiot and having it loaded" So if he were to be approached in a club and have his life threatened he can pull out an unloaded gun? That would make it better? Or I guess we can take your entire sentence.... even with the safety on guns do malfunction and go off. Also having it stuffed down his pants I'm sure the safety could have been jarred to the "off" position. The idiot part is him having the gun on him in the first place

lol, i guess you are trying to prove a point without looking at the big picture. i never compared the intimate details of the two situations, those aren't comparable. charlie casserly reported this a few weeks back on cbs' show that more and more players are starting to carry weapons as a means to feel safe around increasing threats and specifically mentioned the Taylor incident. how do you know he's never had threats? that's a pretty big assumption. I'll take Casserly's word over random internet posters such as myself, yourself, others any day of the week.as for having a gun on him in the first place, i guess we're looking at bigger picture there of whether or not guns should be allowed to be carried or not.

i guess at the end of the day it's a difference in opinions.

 

[Interseptopus]

Yes I do blame them.

The Sean Taylor incident had ZERO similarity to this latest Plaxgate installment.

yeah i guess we disagree here. a fellow star nfl player getting killed in his own home after previous threats would concern me as an nfl player. having the gun on him is for safety and for his own peace of mind is where it ties back to Taylor. being an idiot and having it loaded with no safety and shooting himself in the foot, i guess thats where it differs from Taylor.

You say THAT'S where it differs?!?! Taylor was killed in his own home... Plax is 1000 miles away from his home in LA in a club with no history of previous threats. Burress shot himself in the leg, Taylor did not. I see 100% differences in these situations!!!!!!!!

Kind of funny what you said- "being an idiot and having it loaded" So if he were to be approached in a club and have his life threatened he can pull out an unloaded gun? That would make it better? Or I guess we can take your entire sentence.... even with the safety on guns do malfunction and go off. Also having it stuffed down his pants I'm sure the safety could have been jarred to the "off" position. The idiot part is him having the gun on him in the first place

lol, i guess you are trying to prove a point without looking at the big picture. i never compared the intimate details of the two situations, those aren't comparable. charlie casserly reported this a few weeks back on cbs' show that more and more players are starting to carry weapons as a means to feel safe around increasing threats and specifically mentioned the Taylor incident. how do you know he's never had threats? that's a pretty big assumption. I'll take Casserly's word over random internet posters such as myself, yourself, others any day of the week.

as for having a gun on him in the first place, i guess we're looking at bigger picture there of whether or not guns should be allowed to be carried or not.

i guess at the end of the day it's a difference in opinions.

So is assuming he had the safety off and assuming that he was carrying it because of the Sean Taylor incidentSo you want me to look at the big picture of Sean Taylor, but you don't want to look at the big picture of whether or not guns should be allowed to be carried?? You can't manipulate the situation to favor your argument

 

[pinda]

Yes I do blame them.

The Sean Taylor incident had ZERO similarity to this latest Plaxgate installment.

yeah i guess we disagree here. a fellow star nfl player getting killed in his own home after previous threats would concern me as an nfl player. having the gun on him is for safety and for his own peace of mind is where it ties back to Taylor. being an idiot and having it loaded with no safety and shooting himself in the foot, i guess thats where it differs from Taylor.

You say THAT'S where it differs?!?! Taylor was killed in his own home... Plax is 1000 miles away from his home in LA in a club with no history of previous threats. Burress shot himself in the leg, Taylor did not. I see 100% differences in these situations!!!!!!!!

Kind of funny what you said- "being an idiot and having it loaded" So if he were to be approached in a club and have his life threatened he can pull out an unloaded gun? That would make it better? Or I guess we can take your entire sentence.... even with the safety on guns do malfunction and go off. Also having it stuffed down his pants I'm sure the safety could have been jarred to the "off" position. The idiot part is him having the gun on him in the first place

lol, i guess you are trying to prove a point without looking at the big picture. i never compared the intimate details of the two situations, those aren't comparable. charlie casserly reported this a few weeks back on cbs' show that more and more players are starting to carry weapons as a means to feel safe around increasing threats and specifically mentioned the Taylor incident. how do you know he's never had threats? that's a pretty big assumption. I'll take Casserly's word over random internet posters such as myself, yourself, others any day of the week.

as for having a gun on him in the first place, i guess we're looking at bigger picture there of whether or not guns should be allowed to be carried or not.

i guess at the end of the day it's a difference in opinions.

So is assuming he had the safety off and assuming that he was carrying it because of the Sean Taylor incidentSo you want me to look at the big picture of Sean Taylor, but you don't want to look at the big picture of whether or not guns should be allowed to be carried?? You can't manipulate the situation to favor your argument

lol in order to fire a gun, the safety has to be off, not an assumption, a fact, accidental or intentional, it has to be offassuming he's carrying a gun based on previous incidents related to his profession, is an assumption yes, but one with merit.

if you want to discuss carrying guns, let's open a free for all thread and we can discuss it there, as i had mentioned before, if you want to talk football, let's chat.

lol you win, you got way too much time for this internet argument stuff. all i wanted to know was what his status was and discuss how it would effect him long term from an injury/motivation/performance standpoint. talking politics and what laws should be passed is not my thing, at least not in the Shark Pool.

 

[daddymag]

And he's STILL on the YAHOO can't drop list!

Not no more.Go drop him. NOW. Before they change their minds!!! For the record, I picked up Anthony Gonzalez. Yes, shallow league.

 

[pinda]

And he's STILL on the YAHOO can't drop list!

Not no more.Go drop him. NOW. Before they change their minds!!! For the record, I picked up Anthony Gonzalez. Yes, shallow league.

lol nice pickup.anybody got Burress' contract info from the beginning of the season? what's his cap hit if they decide to cut him? is he cutable? i'm assuming it's a big hit, but seems that new cap number last year gave a lot of room for teams. one more question for Jax and NY homers, has Coughlin ever had a problem player like this before? i can't seem to remember if he did in Jax?

 

[Interseptopus]

Yes I do blame them.

The Sean Taylor incident had ZERO similarity to this latest Plaxgate installment.

yeah i guess we disagree here. a fellow star nfl player getting killed in his own home after previous threats would concern me as an nfl player. having the gun on him is for safety and for his own peace of mind is where it ties back to Taylor. being an idiot and having it loaded with no safety and shooting himself in the foot, i guess thats where it differs from Taylor.

You say THAT'S where it differs?!?! Taylor was killed in his own home... Plax is 1000 miles away from his home in LA in a club with no history of previous threats. Burress shot himself in the leg, Taylor did not. I see 100% differences in these situations!!!!!!!!

Kind of funny what you said- "being an idiot and having it loaded" So if he were to be approached in a club and have his life threatened he can pull out an unloaded gun? That would make it better? Or I guess we can take your entire sentence.... even with the safety on guns do malfunction and go off. Also having it stuffed down his pants I'm sure the safety could have been jarred to the "off" position. The idiot part is him having the gun on him in the first place

lol, i guess you are trying to prove a point without looking at the big picture. i never compared the intimate details of the two situations, those aren't comparable. charlie casserly reported this a few weeks back on cbs' show that more and more players are starting to carry weapons as a means to feel safe around increasing threats and specifically mentioned the Taylor incident. how do you know he's never had threats? that's a pretty big assumption. I'll take Casserly's word over random internet posters such as myself, yourself, others any day of the week.

as for having a gun on him in the first place, i guess we're looking at bigger picture there of whether or not guns should be allowed to be carried or not.

i guess at the end of the day it's a difference in opinions.

So is assuming he had the safety off and assuming that he was carrying it because of the Sean Taylor incidentSo you want me to look at the big picture of Sean Taylor, but you don't want to look at the big picture of whether or not guns should be allowed to be carried?? You can't manipulate the situation to favor your argument

lol in order to fire a gun, the safety has to be off, not an assumption, a fact, accidental or intentional, it has to be offassuming he's carrying a gun based on previous incidents related to his profession, is an assumption yes, but one with merit.

if you want to discuss carrying guns, let's open a free for all thread and we can discuss it there, as i had mentioned before, if you want to talk football, let's chat.

lol you win, you got way too much time for this internet argument stuff. all i wanted to know was what his status was and discuss how it would effect him long term from an injury/motivation/performance standpoint. talking politics and what laws should be passed is not my thing, at least not in the Shark Pool.

I am aware of how guns are fired. However, a gun can malfunction even with the safety on. Which is why you are not to point it at anybody, even with a safety on. Things do not always work how they were intended. Also, as I stated, shoving a handgun down his pants may have flicked the safety off. So he may have had the safety on, but because of whatever it may have been jostled into the off position. You can't assume he loaded the gun and stuffed it down his pants without putting the safety on. Just as much as I cannot assume that he has never gotten threats before.

 

[CLIFF]

This has to be an attempted suicide right!? !...........T.O. talk him off of the ledge.

 

[Black]

“From everything I’ve heard, he was really lucky,” said a member of Burress’ family who had been told only general details about the event. Burress had been ruled out of the game Sunday against Washington before he was shot because of a recent hamstring injury.

Lucky?

 

[treat88]

I'd bet money it was a Glock he was carrying.

No active safety.

 

[Interseptopus]

lol in order to fire a gun, the safety has to be off, not an assumption, a fact, accidental or intentional, it has to be offassuming he's carrying a gun based on previous incidents related to his profession, is an assumption yes, but one with merit.if you want to discuss carrying guns, let's open a free for all thread and we can discuss it there, as i had mentioned before, if you want to talk football, let's chat. lol you win, you got way too much time for this internet argument stuff. all i wanted to know was what his status was and discuss how it would effect him long term from an injury/motivation/performance standpoint. talking politics and what laws should be passed is not my thing, at least not in the Shark Pool.

Bottom line is you criticize me for assuming, but base your entire argument on assumptions.You don't know that Sean Taylor prompted him to start carrying a gunYou don't know that he has had threatsYou don't know that the safety was on or offYes, I think a lot of NFL players are more cautious now about their safety than before Sean Taylor passed away. But at the same time it doesn't take away from the fact that this guy is a complete boob for 1) being in LA at a club in the late hours of Friday night/early hours of Saturday morning, and 2) having a gun- there are safer ways to guarantee safety, like a body guardI'm sure he's taken his gun with him other places and not shot himself. It just so happened that the gun malfunctioned and went off. He's stupid for being there and for having it. He deserves what he gets. There is no way to rationalize him being there and having it when there are better places to go and better ways to protect yourself

 

[LTsharks]

I'd bet money it was a Glock he was carrying.No active safety.

but he didn't have to have a round in the chamber. still stupid.

 

[pinda]

lol in order to fire a gun, the safety has to be off, not an assumption, a fact, accidental or intentional, it has to be offassuming he's carrying a gun based on previous incidents related to his profession, is an assumption yes, but one with merit.if you want to discuss carrying guns, let's open a free for all thread and we can discuss it there, as i had mentioned before, if you want to talk football, let's chat. lol you win, you got way too much time for this internet argument stuff. all i wanted to know was what his status was and discuss how it would effect him long term from an injury/motivation/performance standpoint. talking politics and what laws should be passed is not my thing, at least not in the Shark Pool.

Bottom line is you criticize me for assuming, but base your entire argument on assumptions.You don't know that Sean Taylor prompted him to start carrying a gunYou don't know that he has had threatsYou don't know that the safety was on or offYes, I think a lot of NFL players are more cautious now about their safety than before Sean Taylor passed away. But at the same time it doesn't take away from the fact that this guy is a complete boob for 1) being in LA at a club in the late hours of Friday night/early hours of Saturday morning, and 2) having a gun- there are safer ways to guarantee safety, like a body guardI'm sure he's taken his gun with him other places and not shot himself. It just so happened that the gun malfunctioned and went off. He's stupid for being there and for having it. He deserves what he gets. There is no way to rationalize him being there and having it when there are better places to go and better ways to protect yourself

lol dude you win.....again i'll trust Casserly's commentary over yours on why I make my assumptions. if you get a reputation for being able to scoop NFL stories are voted NFL executive of the year, i'll change my opinion, but until then..........

 

[treat88]

I'd bet money it was a Glock he was carrying.No active safety.

but he didn't have to have a round in the chamber. still stupid.

agreed.No excuse for carrying and not knowing how to handle a firearm.

 

[Interseptopus]

I'd bet money it was a Glock he was carrying.No active safety.

but he didn't have to have a round in the chamber. still stupid.

agreed.No excuse for carrying and not knowing how to handle a firearm.

Finally someone gets it. No excuses for this guy

 

[Interseptopus]

lol in order to fire a gun, the safety has to be off, not an assumption, a fact, accidental or intentional, it has to be offassuming he's carrying a gun based on previous incidents related to his profession, is an assumption yes, but one with merit.if you want to discuss carrying guns, let's open a free for all thread and we can discuss it there, as i had mentioned before, if you want to talk football, let's chat. lol you win, you got way too much time for this internet argument stuff. all i wanted to know was what his status was and discuss how it would effect him long term from an injury/motivation/performance standpoint. talking politics and what laws should be passed is not my thing, at least not in the Shark Pool.

Bottom line is you criticize me for assuming, but base your entire argument on assumptions.You don't know that Sean Taylor prompted him to start carrying a gunYou don't know that he has had threatsYou don't know that the safety was on or offYes, I think a lot of NFL players are more cautious now about their safety than before Sean Taylor passed away. But at the same time it doesn't take away from the fact that this guy is a complete boob for 1) being in LA at a club in the late hours of Friday night/early hours of Saturday morning, and 2) having a gun- there are safer ways to guarantee safety, like a body guardI'm sure he's taken his gun with him other places and not shot himself. It just so happened that the gun malfunctioned and went off. He's stupid for being there and for having it. He deserves what he gets. There is no way to rationalize him being there and having it when there are better places to go and better ways to protect yourself

lol dude you win.....again i'll trust Casserly's commentary over yours on why I make my assumptions. if you get a reputation for being able to scoop NFL stories are voted NFL executive of the year, i'll change my opinion, but until then..........

I don't need any of that to have common sense. Just because many do it does that mean all do? So I can assume that all black people enjoy fried chicken just because I heard that many do?I'm not doubting that many athletes carry guns now as a result of Taylor. I just think it's a little ridiculous to assume that's why Burress was... What about Tank Johnson? That was pre-Taylor I believe...

 

[pinda]

I'd bet money it was a Glock he was carrying.No active safety.

but he didn't have to have a round in the chamber. still stupid.

agreed.No excuse for carrying and not knowing how to handle a firearm.

Finally someone gets it. No excuses for this guy

actually not having a round in the chamber is the gun essentially not being loaded. and not knowing how to handle the gun was pretty much the jist of my point. so how are you agreeing to this now????? lol

 

[rckstr]

I see Hixon showing he's a poor man's Steve Smith the rest of the year & Burress gone this offseason.

Wait, Steve Smith is starting? I thought he would be playing the slot with Burress out.

 

[pinda]

lol in order to fire a gun, the safety has to be off, not an assumption, a fact, accidental or intentional, it has to be offassuming he's carrying a gun based on previous incidents related to his profession, is an assumption yes, but one with merit.if you want to discuss carrying guns, let's open a free for all thread and we can discuss it there, as i had mentioned before, if you want to talk football, let's chat. lol you win, you got way too much time for this internet argument stuff. all i wanted to know was what his status was and discuss how it would effect him long term from an injury/motivation/performance standpoint. talking politics and what laws should be passed is not my thing, at least not in the Shark Pool.

Bottom line is you criticize me for assuming, but base your entire argument on assumptions.You don't know that Sean Taylor prompted him to start carrying a gunYou don't know that he has had threatsYou don't know that the safety was on or offYes, I think a lot of NFL players are more cautious now about their safety than before Sean Taylor passed away. But at the same time it doesn't take away from the fact that this guy is a complete boob for 1) being in LA at a club in the late hours of Friday night/early hours of Saturday morning, and 2) having a gun- there are safer ways to guarantee safety, like a body guardI'm sure he's taken his gun with him other places and not shot himself. It just so happened that the gun malfunctioned and went off. He's stupid for being there and for having it. He deserves what he gets. There is no way to rationalize him being there and having it when there are better places to go and better ways to protect yourself

lol dude you win.....again i'll trust Casserly's commentary over yours on why I make my assumptions. if you get a reputation for being able to scoop NFL stories are voted NFL executive of the year, i'll change my opinion, but until then..........

I don't need any of that to have common sense. Just because many do it does that mean all do? So I can assume that all black people enjoy fried chicken just because I heard that many do?

woah dude, good luck with those comments, not gonna touch those......thanks anyway though, and with that i'm done.

 

[JohnnyU]

Headlines

Report: Burress could be back in two weeks

According to Yahoo's Jason Cole, Plaxico Burress avoided serious injury from the accidental, self-inflicted gunshot wound and could be back on the field in as little as two weeks.

"All I know is he’s supposed to be back in a couple of weeks," a source said. "That’s what I heard the doctors told him." There is a chance that the NFL could impose a suspension based on violating the personal conduct policy, but that won't be determined until all the details get sorted out. Burress has already been ruled out for Sunday's game versus Washington Nov. 29 - 5:07 pm et

Source: Yahoo Sports

 

[Interseptopus]

lol in order to fire a gun, the safety has to be off, not an assumption, a fact, accidental or intentional, it has to be offassuming he's carrying a gun based on previous incidents related to his profession, is an assumption yes, but one with merit.if you want to discuss carrying guns, let's open a free for all thread and we can discuss it there, as i had mentioned before, if you want to talk football, let's chat. lol you win, you got way too much time for this internet argument stuff. all i wanted to know was what his status was and discuss how it would effect him long term from an injury/motivation/performance standpoint. talking politics and what laws should be passed is not my thing, at least not in the Shark Pool.

Bottom line is you criticize me for assuming, but base your entire argument on assumptions.You don't know that Sean Taylor prompted him to start carrying a gunYou don't know that he has had threatsYou don't know that the safety was on or offYes, I think a lot of NFL players are more cautious now about their safety than before Sean Taylor passed away. But at the same time it doesn't take away from the fact that this guy is a complete boob for 1) being in LA at a club in the late hours of Friday night/early hours of Saturday morning, and 2) having a gun- there are safer ways to guarantee safety, like a body guardI'm sure he's taken his gun with him other places and not shot himself. It just so happened that the gun malfunctioned and went off. He's stupid for being there and for having it. He deserves what he gets. There is no way to rationalize him being there and having it when there are better places to go and better ways to protect yourself

lol dude you win.....again i'll trust Casserly's commentary over yours on why I make my assumptions. if you get a reputation for being able to scoop NFL stories are voted NFL executive of the year, i'll change my opinion, but until then..........

I don't need any of that to have common sense. Just because many do it does that mean all do? So I can assume that all black people enjoy fried chicken just because I heard that many do?

woah dude, good luck with those comments, not gonna touch those......thanks anyway though, and with that i'm done.

Exactly my point. You see how ridiculous it is to assume that just because some do they all do?

 

[Interseptopus]

I'd bet money it was a Glock he was carrying.

No active safety.

but he didn't have to have a round in the chamber. still stupid.

agreed.No excuse for carrying and not knowing how to handle a firearm.

Finally someone gets it. No excuses for this guy

actually not having a round in the chamber is the gun essentially not being loaded. and not knowing how to handle the gun was pretty much the jist of my point. so how are you agreeing to this now????? lol

Not knowing how to handle a gun is more than just a safety being on or off. It's knowing where it's legal to carry it, how to carry a gun (down the pants is not the correct way to carry a gun), it's knowing not to point a gun at anyone... especially yourself. Looks like you need to brush up on your hunter's safety courseThis all could have been solved by leaving the gun at home, a club is not the place to carry a weapon. Burress is an idiot

 

[identikit]

lol in order to fire a gun, the safety has to be off, not an assumption, a fact, accidental or intentional, it has to be offassuming he's carrying a gun based on previous incidents related to his profession, is an assumption yes, but one with merit.if you want to discuss carrying guns, let's open a free for all thread and we can discuss it there, as i had mentioned before, if you want to talk football, let's chat. lol you win, you got way too much time for this internet argument stuff. all i wanted to know was what his status was and discuss how it would effect him long term from an injury/motivation/performance standpoint. talking politics and what laws should be passed is not my thing, at least not in the Shark Pool.

Bottom line is you criticize me for assuming, but base your entire argument on assumptions.You don't know that Sean Taylor prompted him to start carrying a gunYou don't know that he has had threatsYou don't know that the safety was on or offYes, I think a lot of NFL players are more cautious now about their safety than before Sean Taylor passed away. But at the same time it doesn't take away from the fact that this guy is a complete boob for 1) being in LA at a club in the late hours of Friday night/early hours of Saturday morning, and 2) having a gun- there are safer ways to guarantee safety, like a body guardI'm sure he's taken his gun with him other places and not shot himself. It just so happened that the gun malfunctioned and went off. He's stupid for being there and for having it. He deserves what he gets. There is no way to rationalize him being there and having it when there are better places to go and better ways to protect yourself

lol dude you win.....again i'll trust Casserly's commentary over yours on why I make my assumptions. if you get a reputation for being able to scoop NFL stories are voted NFL executive of the year, i'll change my opinion, but until then..........

I don't need any of that to have common sense. Just because many do it does that mean all do? So I can assume that all black people enjoy fried chicken just because I heard that many do?

woah dude, good luck with those comments, not gonna touch those......thanks anyway though, and with that i'm done.

Exactly my point. You see how ridiculous it is to assume that just because some do they all do?

Doubt he sees how ridiculous his position is. Just like Plax, he doesn't 'get it.'

 

[pinda]

lol in order to fire a gun, the safety has to be off, not an assumption, a fact, accidental or intentional, it has to be offassuming he's carrying a gun based on previous incidents related to his profession, is an assumption yes, but one with merit.if you want to discuss carrying guns, let's open a free for all thread and we can discuss it there, as i had mentioned before, if you want to talk football, let's chat. lol you win, you got way too much time for this internet argument stuff. all i wanted to know was what his status was and discuss how it would effect him long term from an injury/motivation/performance standpoint. talking politics and what laws should be passed is not my thing, at least not in the Shark Pool.

Bottom line is you criticize me for assuming, but base your entire argument on assumptions.You don't know that Sean Taylor prompted him to start carrying a gunYou don't know that he has had threatsYou don't know that the safety was on or offYes, I think a lot of NFL players are more cautious now about their safety than before Sean Taylor passed away. But at the same time it doesn't take away from the fact that this guy is a complete boob for 1) being in LA at a club in the late hours of Friday night/early hours of Saturday morning, and 2) having a gun- there are safer ways to guarantee safety, like a body guardI'm sure he's taken his gun with him other places and not shot himself. It just so happened that the gun malfunctioned and went off. He's stupid for being there and for having it. He deserves what he gets. There is no way to rationalize him being there and having it when there are better places to go and better ways to protect yourself

lol dude you win.....again i'll trust Casserly's commentary over yours on why I make my assumptions. if you get a reputation for being able to scoop NFL stories are voted NFL executive of the year, i'll change my opinion, but until then..........

I don't need any of that to have common sense. Just because many do it does that mean all do? So I can assume that all black people enjoy fried chicken just because I heard that many do?

woah dude, good luck with those comments, not gonna touch those......thanks anyway though, and with that i'm done.

Exactly my point. You see how ridiculous it is to assume that just because some do they all do?

Doubt he sees how ridiculous his position is. Just like Plax, he doesn't 'get it.'

Mark, same old story with you, if we don't see your position to things, we don't "get it".At least with Doc, i see his side to things, I don't agree with it, but he poses a very relevant argument.

 

[identikit]

lol in order to fire a gun, the safety has to be off, not an assumption, a fact, accidental or intentional, it has to be offassuming he's carrying a gun based on previous incidents related to his profession, is an assumption yes, but one with merit.if you want to discuss carrying guns, let's open a free for all thread and we can discuss it there, as i had mentioned before, if you want to talk football, let's chat. lol you win, you got way too much time for this internet argument stuff. all i wanted to know was what his status was and discuss how it would effect him long term from an injury/motivation/performance standpoint. talking politics and what laws should be passed is not my thing, at least not in the Shark Pool.

Bottom line is you criticize me for assuming, but base your entire argument on assumptions.You don't know that Sean Taylor prompted him to start carrying a gunYou don't know that he has had threatsYou don't know that the safety was on or offYes, I think a lot of NFL players are more cautious now about their safety than before Sean Taylor passed away. But at the same time it doesn't take away from the fact that this guy is a complete boob for 1) being in LA at a club in the late hours of Friday night/early hours of Saturday morning, and 2) having a gun- there are safer ways to guarantee safety, like a body guardI'm sure he's taken his gun with him other places and not shot himself. It just so happened that the gun malfunctioned and went off. He's stupid for being there and for having it. He deserves what he gets. There is no way to rationalize him being there and having it when there are better places to go and better ways to protect yourself

lol dude you win.....again i'll trust Casserly's commentary over yours on why I make my assumptions. if you get a reputation for being able to scoop NFL stories are voted NFL executive of the year, i'll change my opinion, but until then..........

I don't need any of that to have common sense. Just because many do it does that mean all do? So I can assume that all black people enjoy fried chicken just because I heard that many do?

woah dude, good luck with those comments, not gonna touch those......thanks anyway though, and with that i'm done.

Exactly my point. You see how ridiculous it is to assume that just because some do they all do?

Doubt he sees how ridiculous his position is. Just like Plax, he doesn't 'get it.'

Mark, same old story with you, if we don't see your position to things, we don't "get it"

Case in point.He says he's 'done'. Then he comes back.Way to stay true to your own words.

 

[Interseptopus]

Exactly my point. You see how ridiculous it is to assume that just because some do they all do?

Doubt he sees how ridiculous his position is. Just like Plax, he doesn't 'get it.'

It's time's like this I refer to the Bell Curve of Intelligence/Common Sense... I am to the far right, while a lot of other people are in the middle or even to the left of the mean. Dealing with these types of people every day helps me appreciate the level of intelligence, education, and common sense I have. I'm not someone to blindly follow what TV says or something I read in an article and generalize it to all situations for all people. Every situation is different. There are times I cannot believe how or why someone does or says something... I just refer myself back to the bell curve and shake my head at stupidity

 

[pinda]

coming back to read an update if anybody has any contract info posted. identikit is a different poster to you...I don't want to touch racial comments, they only end up in getting suspended or banned, not something i'm interested in doing.

lol dude, chill out, go enjoy a saturday afternoon.......you won this internet battle, i conceded to you a while back. let it go already.

lmao on the bell curve comments.....dude right must be left to you. you know absolutely nothing about the situation but made so many assumptions on this guy. at least mine were based upon credible sources, your mind isn't a credible source. but since both of us are talking out of our a $$es right now, maybe we should just wait till all the facts come out, fair enough or is that illogical as well.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

wow this board is ridiculous. I tried to filter through the BS to see if their was any real news here. I'd have better luck finding a needle in a hay stack.

 

[Interseptopus]

coming back to read an update if anybody has any contract info posted. identikit is a different poster to you, i'm done with the discussion with you as I don't want to touch racial comments, they only end up in getting suspended or banned, not something i'm interested in doing.

I was using an extreme to make my point. You cannot generalize a thing some people do into a thing that all people do.Some people believe global warming is real... does that mean ALL people believe global warming is real?Some people use marijuana and then use other worse drugs like cocaine... does that mean ALL pot smokers later do coke? Some people drink to deal with their emotional problems. Does that mean ALL people who drink do it to deal with emotional problems?Some people exercise as a means of dealing with day-to-day stressors... does that mean ALL people in the exercise room are trying to deal with day-to-day stress?

 

[pinda]

coming back to read an update if anybody has any contract info posted. identikit is a different poster to you, i'm done with the discussion with you as I don't want to touch racial comments, they only end up in getting suspended or banned, not something i'm interested in doing.

I was using an extreme to make my point. You cannot generalize a thing some people do into a thing that all people do.Some people believe global warming is real... does that mean ALL people believe global warming is real?Some people use marijuana and then use other worse drugs like cocaine... does that mean ALL pot smokers later do coke? Some people drink to deal with their emotional problems. Does that mean ALL people who drink do it to deal with emotional problems?Some people exercise as a means of dealing with day-to-day stressors... does that mean ALL people in the exercise room are trying to deal with day-to-day stress?

fair enough, i'd probably digress from using a racial stereotype as an extreme, not very "right side of the bell curve" type of example. for the sanity of others that want to read this topic, let's take it to the FFA if you want to continue this conversation, either that or until the facts come out.

 

[Interseptopus]

wow this board is ridiculous. I tried to filter through the BS to see if their was any real news here. I'd have better luck finding a needle in a hay stack.

Burress To Be Out 2 WeeksSee next post for link, mine was screwy

 

[pinda]

wow this board is ridiculous. I tried to filter through the BS to see if their was any real news here. I'd have better luck finding a needle in a hay stack.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...=2&t=443719Burress To Be Out 2 Weeks

doc links not workingheres the pft link:

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/11/29/...k-in-two-weeks/

seems yahoo pulled the 2 weeks story

 

[NoFBinLA]

Yes I do blame them. The Sean Taylor incident had ZERO similarity to this latest Plaxgate installment.

yeah i guess we disagree here. a fellow star nfl player getting killed in his own home after previous threats would concern me as an nfl player. having the gun on him is for safety and for his own peace of mind is where it ties back to Taylor. being an idiot and having it loaded with no safety and shooting himself in the foot, i guess thats where it differs from Taylor.

Actually a better example or comparison might be the Richard Collier shooting (the olineman from Jacksonville). Wasn't home, post-club and gunned down for reasons still unsaid as far as I know.I totally understand why one might THINK a gun is a fair idea. I might disagree but there have been some things that would make a guy think twice about being out without protection. I might have chosen a bodyguard myself....

 

[pinda]

Yes I do blame them. The Sean Taylor incident had ZERO similarity to this latest Plaxgate installment.

yeah i guess we disagree here. a fellow star nfl player getting killed in his own home after previous threats would concern me as an nfl player. having the gun on him is for safety and for his own peace of mind is where it ties back to Taylor. being an idiot and having it loaded with no safety and shooting himself in the foot, i guess thats where it differs from Taylor.

Actually a better example or comparison might be the Richard Collier shooting (the olineman from Jacksonville). Wasn't home, post-club and gunned down for reasons still unsaid as far as I know.I totally understand why one might THINK a gun is a fair idea. I might disagree but there have been some things that would make a guy think twice about being out without protection. I might have chosen a bodyguard myself....

Thanks noFBinLA, forgot about him. I guess you could add McDougle and Darrent Williams situations to that as well.