Bush owners (1 Viewer)

[Big Blue Wrecking Crew]

A little thin a WR (WR/TE get ppr, RBs get .5 ppr), so I am thinking of dangling Bush and seeing what he brings in. For anyone else doing this, what kind of offers are you getting? Or, for those who have interest in Bush, what are you offering?

ETA: First fishy in offered Branch.

 

[surferskin]

i got TO for him before last week. don't know if you make that deal now though.

 

[Texican]

i got TO for him before last week. don't know if you make that deal now though.

I think you did pretty well. (If non-ppr and re-draft)

 

[hector31]

I'm in a non-PPR league and I can't give the guy away. Fortunately my RB depth is pretty good, but the rest of the league is wise to him. I love watching him play but I think he's vastly overrated in leagues where you don't get those 1-pointers.

 

[TwinTurbo]

In a non-PPR league, I traded Bush for Edge earlier this week. I ended up losing by 1 point this week due to the Edge fumble.

 

[Texican]

I'm in a non-PPR league and I can't give the guy away. Fortunately my RB depth is pretty good, but the rest of the league is wise to him. I love watching him play but I think he's vastly overrated in leagues where you don't get those 1-pointers.

Yes, his hype is starting to simmer. He is a fantastic athlete and very exciting. However in a non-ppr his value is pretty mediocre.

 

[mrreid]

I'm in a non-PPR league and I can't give the guy away. Fortunately my RB depth is pretty good, but the rest of the league is wise to him. I love watching him play but I think he's vastly overrated in leagues where you don't get those 1-pointers.

Yes, his hype is starting to simmer. He is a fantastic athlete and very exciting. However in a non-ppr his value is pretty mediocre.

traded him in a ppr league (1 point every 2 receptions)and it is a keeper leaguegot r.brown, c.benson,frerotte(i have bulger)gave bush,and jennings

 

[biggamer3]

got him two weeks ago, straight up for D Jax

 

[hwjchim]

Let's see..

In my keep 1 league:

2 weeks ago..

I traded Randy Moss straight up for Bush

then last wed...

I traded Roy Williams + Reggie Bush

for

Tiki Barber + Reggie Williams

 

[tombonneau]

Traded him 2-3 wks ago in non-ppr where we sent Culpepper-Bush-Driver in return for Brees-Favre-TBell-MBarber.

Original purpose of deal was to acquire QBs bc we had squat (see Culpepper, Daunte), but they guy for some reason totally wanted Bush, not sure why. And this was just after Bell had had the game vs. NE. He truly felt he was getting an upgrade at RB.

Not sure this is indicative of his normal value, the guy clearly had a bias towards either Bell or Bush.

 

[MooseCats]

I traded him today straight up for Lamont Jordan. I have to think Jordan will breakout more than Bush. I also needed help this week with byes. Jordans schedule is alittle easier from here on in and he doesn't have Duece on his team. (although his team stinks). Bush is fun to watch but we don't get points for receptions, so in my league he is way overrated. I think I did great on the deal.

 

[One]

Traded Bush/Rod Smith for Chad Johnson/Wes Welker

 

[chris1969]

I'm hanging on to him, when I drafted him it was for the second half of the year, not the first. I think it's still gonna be a few weeks until he's fully integrated in the passing game, and the trick plays start to happen.

If I was gonna trade him, I think TO would be a good trade.

I would make sure to hit up the guy that has Deuce and play the "What if Deuce got hurt?" thing with everyone in the league.

 

[packersfan]

I have Bush in a non-PPR league and tried to deal Pennington/Bush for Rudi and got shot down (which I expected even though the guy has absolute crap at QB). I've offered another owner Pennington/Bush for Rivers/Fred Taylor and the guy is thinking about it. I like Bush quite a bit but I'm starting to think he isn't going to be anything more this season than he already is. I knew going into the season that taking him late second in my league was a gamble and I was prepared for it to not work out. But if I have a chance to remedy the situation and get an upgrade at the same position I'm going to do it.

 

[Bartguy]

10 Team, Non-PPR league, standard yardage/TD rules.

Traded him straight up for Terry Glenn.

 

[Marc Levin]

I'm in a non-PPR league and I can't give the guy away. Fortunately my RB depth is pretty good, but the rest of the league is wise to him. I love watching him play but I think he's vastly overrated in leagues where you don't get those 1-pointers.

Yes, his hype is starting to simmer. He is a fantastic athlete and very exciting. However in a non-ppr his value is pretty mediocre.

How timely - our pay-content discussion in the roundtable this week includes a discussion of Bush's non-PPR FF value.Incidentally, the Bush owner in a PPR league I am in is very deep at RB, even with SA on the bench, but is throwing Harrington and Roethlisberger out there each week. No deductions for turnovers, so I offered Favre plus Droughns for Bush.

 

[Marc Levin]

Traded him 2-3 wks ago in non-ppr where we sent Culpepper-Bush-Driver in return for Brees-Favre-TBell-MBarber.Original purpose of deal was to acquire QBs bc we had squat (see Culpepper, Daunte), but they guy for some reason totally wanted Bush, not sure why. And this was just after Bell had had the game vs. NE. He truly felt he was getting an upgrade at RB.Not sure this is indicative of his normal value, the guy clearly had a bias towards either Bell or Bush.

Hands behind your back, sir.You are under arrest.

 

[packersfan]

I'm in a non-PPR league and I can't give the guy away. Fortunately my RB depth is pretty good, but the rest of the league is wise to him. I love watching him play but I think he's vastly overrated in leagues where you don't get those 1-pointers.

Yes, his hype is starting to simmer. He is a fantastic athlete and very exciting. However in a non-ppr his value is pretty mediocre.

How timely - our pay-content discussion in the roundtable this week includes a discussion of Bush's non-PPR FF value.

I'll be interested in seeing your thoughts on this Marc given how high you were on Bush this pre-season. I was very high on Bush in all league formats (obviously PPR was the highest) heading into the season but my feelings about his potential for this season have diminished greatly in non-PPR leagues. I'll be interested if anyone on the staff can offer up some clear reasons for optimism in that scoring format or why we should expect anything to change. What concerned me was how McAllister left the game last week and Payton didn't give all the carries to Bush; instead using Stecker as well and even giving him more carries.

 

[Marc Levin]

I'm in a non-PPR league and I can't give the guy away. Fortunately my RB depth is pretty good, but the rest of the league is wise to him. I love watching him play but I think he's vastly overrated in leagues where you don't get those 1-pointers.

Yes, his hype is starting to simmer. He is a fantastic athlete and very exciting. However in a non-ppr his value is pretty mediocre.

How timely - our pay-content discussion in the roundtable this week includes a discussion of Bush's non-PPR FF value.

I'll be interested in seeing your thoughts on this Marc given how high you were on Bush this pre-season. I was very high on Bush in all league formats (obviously PPR was the highest) heading into the season but my feelings about his potential for this season have diminished greatly in non-PPR leagues. I'll be interested if anyone on the staff can offer up some clear reasons for optimism in that scoring format or why we should expect anything to change. What concerned me was how McAllister left the game last week and Payton didn't give all the carries to Bush; instead using Stecker as well and even giving him more carries.

Yup - we address that exact issue.

 

[DynOmite]

.5 PPR, 3 keeper league......I just offered Peyton Manning/Lamont Jordan for Carson Palmer/Reggie Bush

 

[tombonneau]

Traded him 2-3 wks ago in non-ppr where we sent Culpepper-Bush-Driver in return for Brees-Favre-TBell-MBarber.Original purpose of deal was to acquire QBs bc we had squat (see Culpepper, Daunte), but they guy for some reason totally wanted Bush, not sure why. And this was just after Bell had had the game vs. NE. He truly felt he was getting an upgrade at RB.Not sure this is indicative of his normal value, the guy clearly had a bias towards either Bell or Bush.

Hands behind your back, sir.You are under arrest.

If you think that's bad we went around and flipped Brees-McAllister to a RB-starved team for Peyton Manning. I love work leagues.But to get back to Reggie, in my other main league, .5ppr, he's about rb10-12 currenlty i think (?). I'm trying to get Djax from an owner who is somewhat hurting at RB with SA out but has WRs (he also owns Deuce); offered Bush straight up for Djax. Didn't want that deal, but he countered with Maroney for Djax.I personally think in ppr Bush has more value than Maroney, but Bush's value is all over the place imo, very subjective. My advice is, if you want to move him, sniff out the guy in your league who wants him, there must be one. You'll likely be able to get him for over value. (See my original post.)Conversely, if there is a guy(s) who simply doesn't buy the "hype", don't even bother as you'll never get value.

 

[Sigfawn]

I was offered CJ for Bush in a dynasty-flex PPR league.

Uh, no thanks.

I don't see Bush getting less then 60 catches over the next 4-5 years. In PPR, if healthy he's a lock for top 12-15RB. That's if he doesn't get any better.

 

[Sofa King Money]

I just traded him today in a competitive PPR/IDP league and this is the first year we introduced a keeper component, 1 each on O & D. I had the good fortune of have Westy, K Jones and Tatum Bell in front of him and I was thin at WR with only R Williams, K Johnson and Gates on the WR front. Was offered L Fitz & J Horn from one party, Duece M & Mason from another and settled on D Jax and J Lewis...needless to say I was quite pleased with the R Bush "sweepstakes". Might have given away my keeper on O but I have options and its win now baby...

Start 2 RBs, 2 WRs and 1 Flex...

 

[Marc Levin]

I just traded him today in a competitive PPR/IDP league and this is the first year we introduced a keeper component, 1 each on O & D. I had the good fortune of have Westy, K Jones and Tatum Bell in front of him and I was thin at WR with only R Williams, K Johnson and Gates on the WR front. Was offered L Fitz & J Horn from one party, Duece M & Mason from another and settled on D Jax and J Lewis...needless to say I was quite pleased with the R Bush "sweepstakes". Might have given away my keeper on O but I have options and its win now baby...

Start 2 RBs, 2 WRs and 1 Flex...

WAY more valuable in a PPR than the DJax/JLew comboUnless (unlike me), you believe JLew will one day be a vital FF - or NFL - back.

 

[Ilov80s]

I have Bush in a non-ppr/redraft and is pretty much worthless. I am just holding incase Deuce goes down. Then, like a corner pimp, I will sell Bush to the first desperate stiffy I can find.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

I'm in a non-PPR league and I can't give the guy away. Fortunately my RB depth is pretty good, but the rest of the league is wise to him. I love watching him play but I think he's vastly overrated in leagues where you don't get those 1-pointers.

I'd take a ham sammich for any kinda help in a no PPR league. You want to start him as a flex, but those single digit points every week don't add up to W's. The luster has worn off in this aspect.PPR you could do much worse for a #2 RB. What a difference one rule makes....

 

[jesseasi]

I just trade Bush this week in a Dynasty League where we keep 17 out of 22 players. NO PPR.

I gave up Bush and a 2nd rounder in 2007 for McGahee and Randy Moss.

I put Bush on the block and got a ton of offers. Here are the ones I turned down.

L. White + TO

1st pick overall in 2007

J. Lewis + J. Walker

I felt like the offer I took was over the top.

 

[ATC1]

In a 12 team PPR/IDP league. 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 RB/WR We can keep half the team each year.

I have depth at LB and WR. The Bush owner has Portis, T. Bell, Gore, Bush, Davenport, Herron.

His #3 WR Stalworth (54 points) His #3 LB M. Washington (78 points) no depth on both sides.

I offered Bush (97 points) for Keyshawn (102 points) and Morrison (95 points) and was rejected. Then he counters with Davenport (who he just picked off the WW) for keyshawn. Um, no.

Is that not a good offer? I'm a Saints homer and don't have Bush on any of my teams. I wanted him, and thought I had a pretty good offer. I guess he values Bush for a keeper and doesn't want to sell at his curent value.

 

[Franknbeans]

12 team league and my Wr's are hurting.

I offered Bush and have been given a choice of Glenn, Jennings, Cotchery or Galloway.

 

[ATC1]

12 team league and my Wr's are hurting.I offered Bush and have been given a choice of Glenn, Jennings, Cotchery or Galloway.

Redraft? Non-ppr?

 

[Franknbeans]

12 team league and my Wr's are hurting.I offered Bush and have been given a choice of Glenn, Jennings, Cotchery or Galloway.

Redraft? Non-ppr?

Redraft, PPR Bush is currently ranked 20th for Rb'sJennings is currently ranked 13th for Wr'sGlenn is around 16th

 

[ATC1]

12 team league and my Wr's are hurting.I offered Bush and have been given a choice of Glenn, Jennings, Cotchery or Galloway.

Redraft? Non-ppr?

Redraft, PPR Bush is currently ranked 20th for Rb'sJennings is currently ranked 13th for Wr'sGlenn is around 16th

Jennings would not be horrible because GB will air it out. The question becomes will Farve play the entire season. And how much you need a WR and how good is your RB depth.

 

[Drinkin Buddy]

I traded Bush in a redraft league last week:

Bush/Bledsoe/Curtis

for

Rhodes/Brees/Stallworth

I see him as no better than Rhodes but the hype and potential means you can get more than his true value in return.

 

[Franknbeans]

12 team league and my Wr's are hurting.I offered Bush and have been given a choice of Glenn, Jennings, Cotchery or Galloway.

Redraft? Non-ppr?

Redraft, PPR Bush is currently ranked 20th for Rb'sJennings is currently ranked 13th for Wr'sGlenn is around 16th

Jennings would not be horrible because GB will air it out. The question becomes will Farve play the entire season. And how much you need a WR and how good is your RB depth.

I hear you. My depth is Shaun Alexander and Deshaun Foster with a DeAngelo Williams chaser. The major hangup is I'll have to start Leon Wahington as my 2nd back for the next 2 weeks.